Hey Guys/Girls,

I've written a multi-node/multi bbs chat door system.

It's working great in Zeus (We actually have weekly chat's), and I'm seeking information on how C-Net run's CLI (STDIO) based programs (Doors).

For example zues runs it like this:

Clidoor '"doors:zirc/zirc-cli %51|"'

(%51| is Zeus's code for the users nickname).

Note: I don't want to setup a C-Net bbs, just information on how to run doors/external programs. (I have a couple of Cnet sysops that want to run
it on there own bbs's)


-- Stephen --

Rocking Amiganet with an Amiga 4000 and Zeus BBS.


--- Zeus BBS 1.5
* Origin: -:-- Dragon's Lair --:- dragon.vk3heg.net Prt: 6800 (39:901/281.0)

Hey, I'm running CNet. I'd love to run this program too.

You can run the doors from a command, run doors:doorname, or from the BBS itself as a CNet command.

Where is the program??

J
--- CNet/5
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Hi Jeffk,

On Sunday February 08 2026, Jeffk said to Stephen Walsh:

Hey, I'm running CNet. I'd love to run this program too.

Finding how to run the external/doors for cnet has been the issue.
I'm not finding any documentation, so someone that knows cnet inside and out
is what's we need.

Where is the program??

They are not wildly released just yet, but I do put the files up on my bbs. There has been lots of testing and bug fixing. I need to put in place a way
for someone to test the client setup, without joining the network (We have three linked servers that use encrypted links), as the client side is un-encrypted and firewalled off.

There are weekly chat's 9pm (CST USA) saturday's, or 2pm sunday (AEDT).
(I can be in and out some days in my afternoon, testing the client
software. Sometimes a new server version.)

You can see the client part in operation on these systems.

Amiga Version's:
Dragon's Lair: dragon.vk3heg.net Port: 6800
CIA Amiga BBS: ciaamiga.org Port: 6400

Mystic Version:
Wrong Number 2 bbs: wn2.wrgnbr.com Port: 23


-- Stephen --

Rocking Amiganet with an Amiga 4000 and Zeus BBS.


--- Zeus BBS 1.5
* Origin: -:-- Dragon's Lair --:- dragon.vk3heg.net Prt: 6800 (39:901/281.0)

On Sun 8-Feb-2026 2:59p, Stephen Walsh@39:901/281.0 wrote:

Hey Guys/Girls,

I've written a multi-node/multi bbs chat door system.

It's working great in Zeus (We actually have weekly chat's), and I'm seeking
information on how C-Net run's CLI (STDIO) based programs (Doors).

For example zues runs it like this:

Clidoor '"doors:zirc/zirc-cli %51|"'

(%51| is Zeus's code for the users nickname).

Note: I don't want to setup a C-Net bbs, just information on how to run doors/external programs. (I have a couple of Cnet sysops that want to run it on there own bbs's)

-- Stephen --

Rocking Amiganet with an Amiga 4000 and Zeus BBS.

--- Zeus BBS 1.5
* Origin: -:-- Dragon's Lair --:- dragon.vk3heg.net Prt: 6800 (39:901/281.0)

I would be interested in trying it out also. Let me know where I can get a copy and try it out myself.

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Hi Jeffk,

On Sunday February 08 2026, Jeffk said to Stephen Walsh:

Hey, I'm running CNet. I'd love to run this program too.

[...]

Where is the program??

The client now has a test mode, so you can give it a go without having the server setup locally. It will connect to the main Zircd server. Two log
files will get created, supply them if you have any issues.

You can grab zirc client from this link:

https://vk3heg.net/zirc022.lha



-- Stephen --

Rocking Amiganet with an Amiga 4000 and Zeus BBS.


--- Zeus BBS 1.5
* Origin: -:-- Dragon's Lair --:- dragon.vk3heg.net Prt: 6800 (39:901/281.0)

Hello Gary,

On Thursday February 12 2026, Gary McCulloch said to Stephen Walsh:

Note: I don't want to setup a C-Net bbs, just information on how to
run doors/external programs. (I have a couple of Cnet sysops that want
to run it on there own bbs's)

I would be interested in trying it out also. Let me know
where I can get a copy and try it out myself.

See my recent reply to Jeffk.



-- Stephen --

Rocking Amiganet with an Amiga 4000 and Zeus BBS.


--- Zeus BBS 1.5
* Origin: -:-- Dragon's Lair --:- dragon.vk3heg.net Prt: 6800 (39:901/281.0)

Guys, this software runs nice.. If someone can get it to work on C-Net it would
be a great thing.. I have it running on my Mystic board and have tried to get it to run on C-Net but no luck because of the way C-Net handles calls differently.. It runs from my CLI window though...


|11 Bucko |14- |06Wrong Number Family Of BBS' |07- |03www.wrgnbr.com

... Press SPACEBAR once to abort, or twice to save changes

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A48 (Linux/64)
* Origin: The Wrong Number Family Of BBS' - Wrong Number ][ (39:902/519)

Hello Jeffk!

13 Feb 26 12:39, I wrote to you:

Hey, I'm running CNet. I'd love to run this program too.

[...]

Where is the program??

The client now has a test mode, so you can give it a go without having
the server setup locally. It will connect to the main Zircd server.
Two log files will get created, supply them if you have any issues.

You can grab zirc client from this link:

https://vk3heg.net/zirc023.lha

Thanks to Al, there is now a "CNet" option in the config file, that allows Zirc
to work with cnet.

After doing some standalone testing of the client, reach out via the email address in the doc file, and a local server
with encrypted link(s) can be setup.



Stephen


--- GoldED+/LNX 1.1.5-b20250409
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On 17 Feb 2026, Stephen Walsh said the following...

https://vk3heg.net/zirc023.lha

Thanks to Al, there is now a "CNet" option in the config file, that
allows Zirc to work with cnet.

After doing some standalone testing of the client, reach out via the
email address in the doc file, and a local server
with encrypted link(s) can be setup.

No thanks to me.. The thanks go to you Stephen! You are the one writing this stuff! This program is outstanding, the Saturday night chats will now be a lot bigger if needed, not knowing how many lines your board has, but mine has 10, so if someone were to do another release party like I did a few years ago (which got about 12 people to show up) Tim doesn't have to worry about a waiting room etc. Anyways, between this and FidoBlitz! The Amiga BBS community is in for some really good software!!


|11 Bucko |14- |06Wrong Number Family Of BBS' |07- |03www.wrgnbr.com

... 24 hours in a day and 24 beers in a case. Hmmmm...

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A48 (Linux/64)
* Origin: The Wrong Number Family Of BBS' - Wrong Number ][ (39:902/519)

what's FidoBlitz!?

J
--- CNet/5
* Origin: RetroLair.AmigaRetro.Net:6800 (39:902/560)

I'll reach out to get my BBS attached. It'll be cool to have Sunday night chats
from each of our BBSes!

Thanks for this!

J
--- CNet/5
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On Tue 17-Feb-2026 3:49p, Stephen Walsh@39:901/280.0 said to Jeff Kocuipchyk:

Hello Jeffk!

13 Feb 26 12:39, I wrote to you:

Hey, I'm running CNet. I'd love to run this program too.

[...]

Where is the program??

The client now has a test mode, so you can give it a go without

having

the server setup locally. It will connect to the main Zircd server. Two log files will get created, supply them if you have any issues.

You can grab zirc client from this link:

https://vk3heg.net/zirc023.lha

Thanks to Al, there is now a "CNet" option in the config file, that allows Zirc
to work with cnet.

After doing some standalone testing of the client, reach out via the email address in the doc file, and a local server
with encrypted link(s) can be setup.

Stephen

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I had downloaded the game and will have it set up here at ROF today.

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On 17 Feb 2026, Jeffk said the following...

what's FidoBlitz!?

Front end for FTN networks, like BinkD but works inside the Amiga Emulation or on a real Amiga..


|11 Bucko |14- |06Wrong Number Family Of BBS' |07- |03www.wrgnbr.com

... There is an exception to every rule, except this one.

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A48 (Linux/64)
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On Sun 8-Feb-2026 2:59p, Stephen Walsh@39:901/281.0 wrote:

Hey Guys/Girls,

I've written a multi-node/multi bbs chat door system.

It's working great in Zeus (We actually have weekly chat's), and I'm seeking
information on how C-Net run's CLI (STDIO) based programs (Doors).

For example zues runs it like this:

Clidoor '"doors:zirc/zirc-cli %51|"'

(%51| is Zeus's code for the users nickname).

Note: I don't want to setup a C-Net bbs, just information on how to run doors/external programs. (I have a couple of Cnet sysops that want to run it on there own bbs's)

I have this now installed and working on RoF. What is different in this client to connect to an IRC over C-Net's IRC program? I added the URL to it also on RoF. Going to look to see if I can get it to work in there also. So IRC or ZIRC will get you in either IRC programs.

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Hello Al!

17 Feb 26 18:43, you wrote to me:

https://vk3heg.net/zirc023.lha

Thanks to Al, there is now a "CNet" option in the config file,
that allows Zirc to work with cnet.

No thanks to me..

Yes there is, you've been willing to test this stuff!
The number of times my Amiga has gone belly up and crashed or guru'd and then crashed has been higher than 10!
I've even had some tests that rebooted the system without guruing. #-0

The thanks go to you Stephen! You are the one writing this stuff! This program is outstanding,

I might be writing it and finding bugs, but you guys have been the real testers. #_0

the Saturday night chats will now be a lot bigger if needed, not
knowing how many lines your board has, but mine has 10, so if someone
were to do another release party like I did a few years ago (which got about 12 people to show up)

The more Amiga bbs's that join the better, and not having one central system to
use is the aim.
I'll be starting to add the required changes soon, now that the linking code/protocol is stable.

Anyways, between this and FidoBlitz! The Amiga BBS community is in for some really good software!!

I'll send you the box of goodies next week! ^-;



Stephen


--- GoldED+/LNX 1.1.5-b20250409
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Hello Jeffk!

17 Feb 26 21:43, you wrote to me:

I'll reach out to get my BBS attached. It'll be cool to have Sunday
night chats from each of our BBSes!

Saturday 9pm CST USA time, is the normal start time. (Btw: 2pm Sunday afternoon
for me),
but sometime people show up before and after then.



Stephen


--- GoldED+/LNX 1.1.5-b20250409
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Hello Gary!

18 Feb 26 11:32, you wrote to me:

I've written a multi-node/multi bbs chat door system.

[...]

Note: I don't want to setup a C-Net bbs, just information on how
to run doors/external programs. (I have a couple of Cnet sysops
that want to run it on there own bbs's)

I have this now installed and working on RoF. What is
different in this client to connect to an IRC over C-Net's IRC
program?

Zirc is based on IRC, and only uses some of the irc codes/ideas. It is not a full irc client, as its aimed at BBS use.
For example no Nicname change, single channel usage, only some irc like commands.

The real work is done on the server side, as that has custom code and protocol written in Python. (Runs on Linux/Windows).
For example, the client is un-encrypted, but as soon as it leaves the server it's encrypted.
All links use a Public/Private Key and Password combination for connections, and encrypt the data.

The server's sync user/channel, message information (Memo server: Able to send a offline user a short message). Each server can
link to another server, and when I expand the linking protocol, will be able to
link via a mesh network. This will mean that no
one server is a point of failure.


Stephen


--- GoldED+/LNX 1.1.5-b20250409
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Thu 19-Feb-2026 3:11p

The server's sync user/channel, message information (Memo server: Able to send
a offline user a short message). Each server can
link to another server, and when I expand the linking protocol, will be able to
link via a mesh network. This will mean that no
one server is a point of failure.

1, let me know if I can host a server once you have that set. 2, If the server is down, which I thinnk may have happened yesterday. I would log into zirc, and when it sayds connecting... it lock my board and waits for someone to click reboot. I have not tried it yest today, but I will in a few.

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Got the Propgram Failed: error 80000008

This shows up right when it says "Connecting to server...."

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Hi Gary,

On 2026-02-18 11:32:24, you wrote to Stephen Walsh:

* Origin: call.rofbbs.com ports 6800 6400 8502 423-541-8271
rofbbs.com (39:902/518)

Btw: Can you fix this: ... rof.cnetbbs.net:24554 68.169.145.190 Error: Connection timed out

Bye, Wilfred.

--- FMail-lnx64 2.3.2.6-B20251227
* Origin: FMail development HQ (39:150/200)

On 19 Feb 2026, Stephen Walsh said the following...

I'll send you the box of goodies next week! ^-;

Blah Blah Blah, LOL THanks... OH boy a box of goodies means I will have work to
do.. GREAT!!!


|11 Bucko |14- |06Wrong Number Family Of BBS' |07- |03www.wrgnbr.com

... The caterpillar does all the work but the butterfly gets all the publicity

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A48 (Linux/64)
* Origin: The Wrong Number Family Of BBS' - Wrong Number ][ (39:902/519)

Hmmmm, well I'm running a real Amiga .... :)

Do you use it?

thanks
J
--- CNet/5
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On 19 Feb 2026, Jeffk said the following...

Hmmmm, well I'm running a real Amiga .... :)

Do you use it?

Yes, I am now on my production setup. It is running quite stable and has not crashed at all. Incoming packets get immediately tossed and I am very happy with it..


|11 Bucko |14- |06Wrong Number Family Of BBS' |07- |03www.wrgnbr.com

... A social life? Where can I download that!?

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A48 (Linux/64)
* Origin: The Wrong Number Family Of BBS' - Wrong Number ][ (39:902/519)

hmmm I'd love to use it, where do I get it?

J
--- CNet/5
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Hi Jeffk,

On 2026-02-21 09:34:48, you wrote to Al Derosa:

--- CNet/5
* Origin: RetroLair.AmigaRetro.Net:6800 (39:902/560)

Calling '39:902/560'. Call time: '0000-2400' UTC.
retrolair.amigaretro.net, 24554
Calling 39:902/560 (96.52.164.206:24554)
error (Connection refused)

:-(


Bye, Wilfred.

--- FMail-lnx64 2.3.2.6-B20251227
* Origin: FMail development HQ (39:150/200)

what does that mean exactly Wilfred?

J
--- CNet/5
* Origin: RetroLair.AmigaRetro.Net:6800 (39:902/560)

Hey Bucko,

How did you get it to run in CNet? How did you add it since you can't run it as
a CNet Door from the command prompt.

Thanks
J
--- CNet/5
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On Sat 21-Feb-2026 4:52p, Jeffk@39:902/560.0 said to Al DeRosa:

Hey Bucko,

How did you get it to run in CNet? How did you add it since you can't run
it as
a CNet Door from the command prompt.

Thanks
J
--- CNet/5
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I run it as a DOS command, I have a menu option for it and I also have it in my
PFiles area.. It is a AmigaDOS (CLI) program.. Runs very nicely now..
--- CNet/5
* Origin: The Wrong Number Family Of BBS' - Wrong Number ]I[ (39:902/519.1)

Thanks! I'm up and running now too. I don't have it as a menu item yet, just in
PFiles. How do I do the menu item thing again? Just run it?

Thanks
J
--- CNet/5
* Origin: RetroLair.AmigaRetro.Net:6800 (39:902/560)

Hello Gary!

19 Feb 26 05:14, you wrote to me:

1, let me know if I can host a server once you have that set.

There's no issue with you hosting a server. It's how the system actually works. The idea is to take the load off the Amiga, and have a modern system do all the
hard work.

2, If the server is down, which I thinnk may have happened yesterday.
I would log into zirc, and when it sayds connecting... it lock my
board and waits for someone to click reboot.

There are timeout's built in. 15 seconds for the client to connect.. It then says why and gives you information
to forward on (ie: to the sysop/me).

If it crashed (It looks like that from your next message), hopefully a log file
was created before the crash. If
not then please describe your system setup and what the errors are, and email them to me.


Stephen


--- GoldED+/LNX 1.1.5-b20250409
* Origin: Dragon's Lair ---:- dragon.vk3heg.net -:--- Prt: 6800 (39:901/280)

Hello Al!

19 Feb 26 18:05, you wrote to me:

I'll send you the box of goodies next week! ^-;

Blah Blah Blah, LOL THanks... OH boy a box of goodies means I will
have work to do.. GREAT!!!

Life is like a box of Chocolate's #-)




Stephen


--- GoldED+/LNX 1.1.5-b20250409
* Origin: Dragon's Lair ---:- dragon.vk3heg.net -:--- Prt: 6800 (39:901/280)

Hello Gary!

19 Feb 26 05:14, you wrote to me:

1, let me know if I can host a server once you have that set.

There's no issue with you hosting a server. It's how the system actually works. The idea is to take the load off the Amiga, and have a modern system do all the
hard work.

2, If the server is down, which I thinnk may have happened yesterday.
I would log into zirc, and when it sayds connecting... it lock my
board and waits for someone to click reboot.

There are timeout's built in. 15 seconds for the client to connect.. It then says why and gives you information
to forward on (ie: to the sysop/me).

If it crashed (It looks like that from your next message), hopefully a log file
was created before the crash. If
not then please describe your system setup and what the errors are, and email them to me.

Btw: I see you did actually connect today, register and cause what's now been termed the "spitfire" bug!

Something happened when you entered your email address, and it had "1800" in front of it. Causing all sorts of
issues across the network.... (Had me thinking "what the hell happened"), until
I saw one of the remote server's
log files and was able to fix right away.



Stephen


--- GoldED+/LNX 1.1.5-b20250409
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Hi Jeffk,

On 2026-02-21 16:43:48, you wrote to me:

what does that mean exactly Wilfred?

That your system refuses connections on the binkp port.


Bye, Wilfred.

--- FMail-lnx64 2.3.2.6-B20251227
* Origin: FMail development HQ (39:150/200)

On 21 Feb 2026, Jeffk said the following...

Thanks! I'm up and running now too. I don't have it as a menu item yet, just in PFiles. How do I do the menu item thing again? Just run it?

It's in the BBSMENU file, you would add it to the main menu section by calling a DOS command and then adding ZIRC it's hard to explain it here because with the BBSMENU file you have to copy and paste the first MCI command in \ doesn't work.


|11 Bucko |14- |06Wrong Number Family Of BBS' |07- |03www.wrgnbr.com

... Evil triumphs when good people do nothing. - Einstein

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A48 (Linux/64)
* Origin: The Wrong Number Family Of BBS' - Wrong Number ][ (39:902/519)

On 22 Feb 2026, Stephen Walsh said the following...

Hello Al!

Life is like a box of Chocolate's #-)

Oh it certainly is!! ;)


|11 Bucko |14- |06Wrong Number Family Of BBS' |07- |03www.wrgnbr.com

... Light year: 1/3 less calories than your regular year

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A48 (Linux/64)
* Origin: The Wrong Number Family Of BBS' - Wrong Number ][ (39:902/519)

Fri 13-Feb-2026 12:47p

Hello Gary,

On Thursday February 12 2026, Gary McCulloch said to Stephen Walsh:

Note: I don't want to setup a C-Net bbs, just information on how to
run doors/external programs. (I have a couple of Cnet sysops that want
to run it on there own bbs's)

I would be interested in trying it out also. Let me know where I can get a copy and try it out myself.

See my recent reply to Jeffk.

-- Stephen --

Rocking Amiganet with an Amiga 4000 and Zeus BBS.

--- Zeus BBS 1.5
* Origin: -:-- Dragon's Lair --:- dragon.vk3heg.net Prt: 6800 (39:901/281.0)

There is an issue if the server is down. If it is down, and I load up the program, when it gets to Connecting to server... It will lock and cause my system to reboot. It needs a saftey catch that if the server is down or can't connect, it logs you back to the BBS.
If there is away to have a network of servers, this would be good. So if one is down, it rolls to the next one. With that said, I would be happy to be a back-up server. Just some thoughts.

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