Re: Favorite Streaming service(s)
By: Amessyroom to Nightfox on Mon Jan 20 2025 05:17 am

I use plex, but have not looked into tuners before. I had never heard of HDHomerun before regoining the BBS scene. I'll have to do some research and see how these work and their costs. I new plex could use a tuner, but have never had a computer with space for an actual add-on tuner card.

The HDHomerun actually isn't an internal card, it's a stand-alone box that plugs into your network. Plex is able to connect to it and use it as a TV tuner to stream and record broadcasts though. You could buy an internal tuner card if you want though (one is the Hauppauge WinTV).

Since the HDHomerun is a stand-alone box, it also has its own smart app you can install on your devices to connect to the tuner and steram live TV.

Nightfox

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Re: Favorite Streaming service(s)
By: Nightfox to Amessyroom on Mon Jan 20 2025 10:13 am

Re: Favorite Streaming service(s)
By: Amessyroom to Nightfox on Mon Jan 20 2025 05:17 am

I use plex, but have not looked into tuners before. I had never heard of HDHomerun before regoining the BBS scene. I'll have to do some research and see how these work and their costs. I new plex could use a tuner, but have never had a computer with space for an actual add-on tuner card.

The HDHomerun actually isn't an internal card, it's a stand-alone box that plugs into your network. Plex is able to connect to it and use it as a TV tuner to stream and record broadcasts though. You could buy an internal tuner card if you want though (one is the Hauppauge WinTV).

Since the HDHomerun is a stand-alone box, it also has its own smart app you can install on your devices to connect to the tuner and steram live TV.

I have an HDHomeRun too (and recording into Plex DVR) - it works great, but nobody watches the recording in my household. It's Internet streaming all around. <shrug>
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Re: Favorite Streaming service(s)
By: Digital Man to Nightfox on Mon Jan 20 2025 02:59 pm

I have an HDHomeRun too (and recording into Plex DVR) - it works great, but nobody watches the recording in my household. It's Internet streaming all around. <shrug>

There are some shows that my wife and I like to watch, such as Jeopardy, and occasionally America's Funniest Home Videos, Beat Shazam (music game show), and others that I DVR from over the air. So we're getting some use out of it.

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Re: Favorite Streaming service(s)
By: Amessyroom to MRO on Mon Jan 20 2025 05:12 am

Actually not happy as I have been. Due to price and not being able to find stuff easily.

$82.99. I was actually paying that previously, to get extra streams. But removed that after my MIL passed away. Now they have added that 9.99 to the base price.

so whats this 83 dollars from? this isnt youtube plus, right?

with iptv you watch on your desktop or with an app on your tv or other device. they basically have almost everything, usually. i watched the tyson fight on iptv. i was able to watch it without the netflix difficulties.

i will private msg you one that i know of.

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Re: Favorite Streaming service(s)
By: MRO to Amessyroom on Tue Jan 21 2025 05:51 am

Re: Favorite Streaming service(s)
By: Amessyroom to MRO on Mon Jan 20 2025 05:12 am

Actually not happy as I have been. Due to price and not being able to find
stuff easily.

$82.99. I was actually paying that previously, to get extra streams. But
removed that after my MIL passed away. Now they have added that 9.99 to
the base price.

so whats this 83 dollars from? this isnt youtube plus, right?

Youtube TV . Live TV/DVR/etc.

with iptv you watch on your desktop or with an app on your tv or other device. they basically have almost everything, usually. i watched the tyson fight on iptv. i was able to watch it without the netflix difficulties.

i will private msg you one that i know of.

Thanks. Received email. Will checkout.
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Re: Favorite Streaming service(s)
By: MRO to Amessyroom on Tue Jan 21 2025 05:51 am

with iptv you watch on your desktop or with an app on your tv or other device. they basically have almost everything, usually. i watched the tyson fight on iptv. i was able to watch it without the netflix difficulties.
i will private msg you one that i know of.

I would be intrested as well if you don't mind droping me a message as well :)

BrokenMind

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Re: Favorite Streaming service(s)
By: Brokenmind to MRO on Tue Jan 21 2025 10:04 am

Re: Favorite Streaming service(s)
By: MRO to Amessyroom on Tue Jan 21 2025 05:51 am

with iptv you watch on your desktop or with an app on your tv or other device. they basically have almost everything, usually. i watched the tyson fight on iptv. i was able to watch it without the netflix difficulties.
i will private msg you one that i know of.

I would be intrested as well if you don't mind droping me a message as well :)

i dont really use that stuff so i'm no expert.
if you search for google you can find some.
they all work the same. https://www.geeksforgeeks.org/best-iptv-service-provider-subscriptions/

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Re: Re: Favorite Streaming service(s)
By: fusion to All on Tue Jan 21 2025 07:19 pm

How are these messages getting quoted like this? Is it a specific reader? BBS version or something? Is it properly rendered on Sync? Would hate to fiddle with my settings on vert when this is the only user it happens with.

(I feel like I've seen this behavior before but it was a long time ago)

you can reply back in the sub that it happend. we're informal here.

it's probably shitty mystic.

there's nothing funny here except he's not doing a carriage return after
his replies.
also his quotes have >>'s for himself

http://bbs.bbses.info/tmpfusion.txt

he's using slyedit and i'm using a slighty modified version
of deuce's editor fsedit

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Re: Re: Favorite Streaming service(s)
By: MRO to fusion on Wed Jan 22 2025 03:39 am

also his quotes have >>'s for himself

http://bbs.bbses.info/tmpfusion.txt

The >> means those lines were already quoted in the previous message, so it's a 2nd level of quoting.

Nightfox

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Re: Favorite Streaming service(s)
By: Nightfox to Amessyroom on Mon Jan 20 2025 10:13:07

The HDHomerun actually isn't an internal card, it's a stand-alone box that plugs into your network. Plex is able to connect to it and use it as a
TV
tuner to stream and record broadcasts though. You could buy an internal tuner card if you want though (one is the Hauppauge WinTV).

Since the HDHomerun is a stand-alone box, it also has its own smart app you can install on your devices to connect to the tuner and steram live TV.

Thats what I bought - the quattro version its brilliant and with plex adds recording and advert skip facilities too.

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Re: Favorite Streaming service(s)
By: Keyop to Nightfox on Wed Jan 22 2025 07:31 pm

The HDHomerun actually isn't an internal card, it's a stand-alone box that
plugs into your network. Plex is able to connect to it and use it as a

Thats what I bought - the quattro version its brilliant and with plex adds recording and advert skip facilities too.

I like it. I think the only downside right now with Plex is that although the HDHomerun Flex 4K (the model I have) supports the newer ATSC 3.0 broadcast standard, Plex doesn't support the audio codec used in those broadcasts. Plex can record ATSC 3.0 broadcasts but it won't get the audio. The major TV networks have ATSC 3.0 signals in my area, and I'd like to be able to record those with Plex (as those seem to get better reception than the older broadcast signals).

The game show Jeopardy is broadcast here on a station where their older signal (which Plex is fully copmatible with) has spotty reception for me, so I've been recording that show with the HDHomerun's DVR (instead of Plex) using the ATSC 3.0 broadcast.

Nightfox

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Re: Re: Favorite Streaming service(s)
By: Nightfox to MRO on Wed Jan 22 2025 09:45 am

Re: Re: Favorite Streaming service(s)
By: MRO to fusion on Wed Jan 22 2025 03:39 am

also his quotes have >>'s for himself

http://bbs.bbses.info/tmpfusion.txt

The >>> means those lines were already quoted in the previous message, so it's
The >>> a 2nd level of quoting.

Nightfox

Am I doing something wrong in how I'm quoting? I don't see the messages as the other user posted, all together.

The > and >> lines are present but do have carriage returns or line feeds,
when I see my posts.
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Re: Favorite Streaming service(s)
By: MRO to Brokenmind on Tue Jan 21 2025 08:50 pm

i dont really use that stuff so i'm no expert. if you search for google you can find some. they all work the same. https://www.geeksforgeeks.org/best-iptv-service-provider-subscriptions/

I'll check it out i'm not an expert eaither that's why i was asking lol.

but thank you

BrokenMind

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Re: Favorite Streaming service(s)
By: Brokenmind to MRO on Wed Jan 22 2025 05:17 pm

Re: Favorite Streaming service(s)
By: MRO to Brokenmind on Tue Jan 21 2025 08:50 pm

i dont really use that stuff so i'm no expert. if you search for google you can find some. they all work the same. https://www.geeksforgeeks.org/best-iptv-service-provider-subscriptions/

I'll check it out i'm not an expert eaither that's why i was asking lol.

but thank you

BrokenMind

The services give you all the information you need. to use it it's pretty easy. there used to be one that had a free trial for a few days.
i'll ask my buddy.

i just prefer download

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On 22 Jan 2025, Nightfox said the following...

Re: Re: Favorite Streaming service(s)
By: MRO to fusion on Wed Jan 22 2025 03:39 am

also his quotes have >>'s for himself

http://bbs.bbses.info/tmpfusion.txt

The >> means those lines were already quoted in the previous message, so it's a 2nd level of quoting.

eh i could have figured that out if mystic hadn't done this to it:

https://kirin.dcclost.com/~alex/wrappy.png

ah well

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Re: Re: Favorite Streaming service(s)
By: Amessyroom to Nightfox on Wed Jan 22 2025 06:28 pm

Am I doing something wrong in how I'm quoting? I don't see the messages as the other user posted, all together.

In at least one message, I saw that you had written replies directly below quoted sections without adding a blank line in between. I suppose it's not wrong, but I think having a blank line between a quoted section and your reply would make it a little more readable. And it looks like other BBS systems or readers may look at those peices of text and wrap it all together if there isn't a blank line in between (though that's just a guess).

Nightfox

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Re: Favorite Streaming service(s)
By: Brokenmind to MRO on Wed Jan 22 2025 05:17 pm

I'll check it out i'm not an expert eaither that's why i was asking lol.

but thank you

BrokenMind

hello, i sent you a private msg with the site that has a free trial.

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Re: Favorite Streaming service(s)
By: Nightfox to Keyop on Wed Jan 22 2025 12:23 pm


Does the free version of Plex let you
use the HDHomerun or is that a pay
feature? I'm assuming the recording and
commercial cutting functionality are
paid features...

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Re: Re: Favorite Streaming service(s)
By: Nightfox to Amessyroom on Thu Jan 23 2025 09:38 am

Re: Re: Favorite Streaming service(s)
By: Amessyroom to Nightfox on Wed Jan 22 2025 06:28 pm

Am I doing something wrong in how I'm quoting? I don't see the messages
as the other user posted, all together.

In at least one message, I saw that you had written replies directly below quoted sections without adding a blank line in between. I suppose it's not wrong, but I think having a blank line between a quoted section and your reply would make it a little more readable. And it looks like other BBS systems or readers may look at those peices of text and wrap it all together if there isn't a blank line in between (though that's just a guess).

Nightfox

I'll try to leave a blank line. I never saw it mushed together; so wonder if the other BBSes do it for unknown reasons.

Thanks for your input on the issue.
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Re: Favorite Streaming service(s)
By: phigan to Nightfox on Thu Jan 23 2025 05:01 pm

Does the free version of Plex let you
use the HDHomerun or is that a pay
feature? I'm assuming the recording and
commercial cutting functionality are
paid features...

Recording is a paid feature, but I believe you can have Plex use a TV tuner and stream it live for free.

Nightfox

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Re: Favorite Streaming service(s)
By: Amessyroom to All on Thu Jan 16 2025 01:56 pm

I currently use Youtube TV as my primary service, but they are raising prices.

So wondering what others are using. I selected them years ago for the live tv, and local channels (abc,nbc,cbs).

I set a personal Piped instance so I can watch Youtube without eating any advertisement. There is no way I am going to send a dime those sucker's way.

I don't really pay for any streaming service. My father used to do Amazon Prime, but they rarely have anything worth your time.

For everything else, DVDs.


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Re: Favorite Streaming service(s)
By: Arelor to Amessyroom on Sat Jan 25 2025 05:44 pm

I set a personal Piped instance so I can watch Youtube without eating any advertisement. There is no way I am going to send a dime those sucker's way.

I don't really pay for any streaming service. My father used to do Amazon Prime, but they rarely have anything worth your time.

do you watch it on your computer? because you can use brave browser for that.

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Re: Favorite Streaming service(s)
By: MRO to Arelor on Sun Jan 26 2025 04:54 am

do you watch it on your computer? because you can use brave browser for that.

Well, I have a server which can be reached from anywhere. The idea is I can visit it using any device with any web browser. It is handy if you are at a party and want to show somebody a video but you don't have your device with you.

On my smartphone I have NewPipe, which is a client-side thing. It is handy because you can organize playlists and such without having to log into a Google account.


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Re: Favorite Streaming service(s)
By: Arelor to MRO on Sun Jan 26 2025 04:20 pm

do you watch it on your computer? because you can use brave browser for that.

Well, I have a server which can be reached from anywhere. The idea is I can visit it using any device with any web browser. It is handy if you are at a party and want to show somebody a video but you don't have your device with you.

so what are you using for that? plex?

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Re: Favorite Streaming service(s)
By: MRO to Arelor on Sun Jan 26 2025 10:28 pm

so what are you using for that? plex?

Piped :-)


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Re: Favorite Streaming service(s)
By: Amessyroom to All on Thu Jan 16 2025 01:56 pm

I'm in an area where I can get those channels over the air with a TV antenna. And I use a HDHomerun network-attached TV tuner, which can stream TV channels to my various devices with their app; I also have a Plex media server on a dedicated PC which is configured to use that TV tuner - Plex can stream the live TV channels as well. I have an internal PCI Express TV tuner in my Plex PC (which I bought before I found out about the HDHomerun, which is a stand-alone device). Both the HDHomerun and Plex can also act as a DVR.

Aside from the streaming options available with the setup, I think another nice thing is that the antenna and everything can be set up in a central place, so I don't need to attach antennas to my TVs. I currently live in an apartment, but if I had a house, I'd consider mounting a TV antenna on the outside near the roof, like people did in the old days.

Nightfox

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We are set up similarly here with an antenna and get 30 channels very well and use tubi and internet archive and ok.ru for movie streaming on the big tv. I bought us a 10 tb usb drive for the tv and download a lot of movies and music and complete tv series to it, commercial free. We tried Hulu and Netflix but didn't use either enough to justify the expense. We run a live stock ranch so not a lot of tv watching on average, but it works for us.
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Re: Favorite Streaming service(s)
By: MRO to Amessyroom on Thu Jan 16 2025 10:41 pm

One show I like to watch is Jeopardy. I've tried to find torrents of the daily episodes but it seems like those don't exist, so the only way I can watch it seems to be via CBS (which I can get over the air here).

Nightfox

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I like the price is right for my lunch break viewing.
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Re: Re: Favorite Streaming service(s)
By: Codefenix to Nightfox on Fri Jan 17 2025 03:06 pm

Are you able to get over-the-air broadcast TV with an antenna?

Just chiming in to say this is still a viable option today. Our house had an antenna already installed when we bought it in '07, and I've kept it installed ever since. Great for local news, weather, and (some) sports. Also nice for FM.

Sports is better OTA as well, it's uncompressed.

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Re: Re: Favorite Streaming service(s)
By: The Lizard Master to Codefenix on Wed Feb 12 2025 08:57 am

Sports is better OTA as well, it's uncompressed.

Compared to streaming? Or compared to cable/satellite?

Nightfox

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Re: Re: Favorite Streaming service(s)
By: Nightfox to The Lizard Master on Wed Feb 12 2025 02:25 pm

Sports is better OTA as well, it's uncompressed.

Compared to streaming? Or compared to cable/satellite?

Nightfox

All of those are compressed, so OTA (with clean signal) will always beat those.

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Re: Re: Favorite Streaming service(s)
By: The Lizard Master to Nightfox on Thu Feb 13 2025 08:32 am

Re: Re: Favorite Streaming service(s)
By: Nightfox to The Lizard Master on Wed Feb 12 2025 02:25 pm

Sports is better OTA as well, it's uncompressed.

Compared to streaming? Or compared to cable/satellite?

Nightfox

All of those are compressed, so OTA (with clean signal) will always beat those.

OTA is compressed video as well, but uses more bandwidth per channel and thus supports real-time encoding at higher (perceived) fidelity. I think DirecTV used to allocate extra-high bandwidth channels for special live (e.g. sporting) events too, but I'm not sure if they still do.
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Re: Re: Favorite Streaming service(s)
By: Digital Man to The Lizard Master on Thu Feb 13 2025 03:20 pm

All of those are compressed, so OTA (with clean signal) will always beat those.

OTA is compressed video as well, but uses more bandwidth per channel and thus supports real-time encoding at higher (perceived) fidelity. I think DirecTV used to allocate extra-high bandwidth channels for special live (e.g. sporting) events too, but I'm not sure if they still do.

Ah I did not know that! Thanks.

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