Hello everybody!

How can I troubleshoot binkd not processing outbound directories for other zones than default?
HPT leaves direct messages for zone 2 in outb.002 and so. I change loglevel to 9 but I still can see any errors in binkd.log.
The first time the tosser created the directories where created with 755 permission, I changed all of outb* directories to 770.

drwxrwx--- 15 fido fido 15 Sep 20 00:11 .
drwxr-xr-x 10 root wheel 10 May 18 19:50 ..
drwxrwx--- 2 fido fido 34 Sep 19 15:44 dupebase
drwxrwx--- 5 fido fido 5 Sep 15 12:50 filebase
drwxrwx--- 2 fido fido 2 May 18 19:50 fileboxes
drwxrwx--- 2 fido fido 2 May 18 19:10 flags
drwxrwx--- 3 fido fido 11 Sep 20 00:11 inb
drwxrwx--- 2 fido fido 2 Sep 20 00:11 inbound-temp
drwxrwx--- 5 fido fido 5 Jun 8 22:08 msgbase
drwxrwx--- 3 fido fido 3 Sep 20 00:11 outb
drwxrwx--- 3 fido fido 3 Sep 19 13:49 outb.001
drwxrwx--- 4 fido fido 6 Sep 20 00:10 outb.002
drwxrwx--- 3 fido fido 3 Sep 20 00:11 outb.015
drwxrwx--- 4 fido fido 4 Sep 16 11:47 tmp
drwxrwx--- 2 fido fido 2 May 18 19:50 transit

fido:/var/spool/ftn$ ls -al outb.002
total 23
drwxrwx--- 4 fido fido 6 Sep 20 00:10 .
drwxrwx--- 15 fido fido 15 Sep 20 00:11 ..
-rwxrwx--- 1 fido fido 422 Sep 19 13:31 00dd0001.cut
drwxrwx--- 3 fido fido 5 Sep 20 00:10 00dd0001.pnt
drwxrwx--- 2 fido fido 2 Sep 19 13:31 00dd0001.sep
-rw-r--r-- 1 fido fido 23 Sep 20 00:10 00dd0001.try



binkd is running as user fido.

Javier


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Hi Javier,

On 2025-09-20 00:25:02, you wrote to All:

How can I troubleshoot binkd not processing outbound directories for
other zones than default? HPT leaves direct messages for zone 2 in outb.002 and so. I change loglevel to 9 but I still can see any errors
in binkd.log. The first time the tosser created the directories where created with 755 permission, I changed all of outb* directories to
770.

drwxrwx--- 15 fido fido 15 Sep 20 00:11 .
drwxr-xr-x 10 root wheel 10 May 18 19:50 ..
drwxrwx--- 2 fido fido 34 Sep 19 15:44 dupebase
drwxrwx--- 5 fido fido 5 Sep 15 12:50 filebase
drwxrwx--- 2 fido fido 2 May 18 19:50 fileboxes
drwxrwx--- 2 fido fido 2 May 18 19:10 flags
drwxrwx--- 3 fido fido 11 Sep 20 00:11 inb
drwxrwx--- 2 fido fido 2 Sep 20 00:11 inbound-temp
drwxrwx--- 5 fido fido 5 Jun 8 22:08 msgbase
drwxrwx--- 3 fido fido 3 Sep 20 00:11 outb
drwxrwx--- 3 fido fido 3 Sep 19 13:49 outb.001
drwxrwx--- 4 fido fido 6 Sep 20 00:10 outb.002
drwxrwx--- 3 fido fido 3 Sep 20 00:11 outb.015
drwxrwx--- 4 fido fido 4 Sep 16 11:47 tmp
drwxrwx--- 2 fido fido 2 May 18 19:50 transit

fido:/var/spool/ftn$ ls -al outb.002
total 23
drwxrwx--- 4 fido fido 6 Sep 20 00:10 .
drwxrwx--- 15 fido fido 15 Sep 20 00:11 ..
-rwxrwx--- 1 fido fido 422 Sep 19 13:31 00dd0001.cut
drwxrwx--- 3 fido fido 5 Sep 20 00:10 00dd0001.pnt
drwxrwx--- 2 fido fido 2 Sep 19 13:31 00dd0001.sep
-rw-r--r-- 1 fido fido 23 Sep 20 00:10 00dd0001.try

What is the content of that .try file?


Bye, Wilfred.

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Hello Wilfred!

20 Sep 25 13:01, you wrote to me:

fido:/var/spool/ftn/outb.002$ cat 00dd0001.try
Cannot getaddrinfofido:/var/spool/ftn/outb.002$

What is the content of that .try file?

Bye, Wilfred.

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Javier


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Hi Javier,

On 2025-09-20 16:47:12, you wrote to me:

20 Sep 25 13:01, you wrote to me:

fido:/var/spool/ftn/outb.002$ cat 00dd0001.try
Cannot getaddrinfofido:/var/spool/ftn/outb.002$

Then there is your reason, it doesn't know how to contact that node, so it can't try.

What is the content of that .try file?

Please don't top post! ;-)


Bye, Wilfred.

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Hello Wilfred!

20 Sep 25 22:38, you wrote to me:

But the node 2:221/1 is listed in the nodelist. What am I missing? How can I check if binkd can access and is processing the correct nodelist?

Host,221,Finland_(254),Ylojarvi,Tommi_Koivula,-Unpublished-,300,CM,IBN:f0.n221.z2.fidonet.fi,PING,TRACE,U,ENC
,1,MXO,Ylojarvi,Tommi_Koivula,-Unpublished-,300,CM,IBN:f1.n221.z2.fidonet.fi,PING,TRACE,U,ENC

----
ping f1.n221.z2.fidonet.fi
PING f1.n221.z2.fidonet.fi (135.181.90.166): 56 data bytes
64 bytes from 135.181.90.166: icmp_seq=0 ttl=47 time=271.270 ms
64 bytes from 135.181.90.166: icmp_seq=1 ttl=47 time=270.490 ms

fido:/var/spool/ftn/filebase/nodelist$ ls -l
total 139
-rw-r--r-- 1 fido fido 32890 Sep 15 12:50 FSXNET.255
-rw-r--r-- 1 fido fido 5984 Sep 15 12:52 goldnode.gxa
-rw-r--r-- 1 fido fido 112 Sep 15 12:52 goldnode.gxl
-rw-r--r-- 1 fido fido 71808 Sep 15 12:52 goldnode.gxn
-rw-r--r-- 1 fido fido 157808 Sep 15 12:51 nodelist.255
----

Hi Javier,

On 2025-09-20 16:47:12, you wrote to me:

20 Sep 25 13:01, you wrote to me:

fido:/var/spool/ftn/outb.002$ cat 00dd0001.try
Cannot getaddrinfofido:/var/spool/ftn/outb.002$

Then there is your reason, it doesn't know how to contact that node,
so it can't try.

What is the content of that .try file?

Please don't top post! ;-)

Bye, Wilfred.

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Javier


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Hi Javier,

On 2025-09-20 19:42:12, you wrote to me:

But the node 2:221/1 is listed in the nodelist. What am I missing? How
can I check if binkd can access and is processing the correct
nodelist?

Binkd can't use the nodelist directly.

There is a perl script that can do it, configured like this:

#
# Perl hooks file (if built with Perl)
#
#perl-hooks ~/ftn/binkd/nodelist.pl

Or you can "compile" the nodelist to a format that binkd can use. I'm using this php script: http://ambrosia60.ddnss.org/53f8ee03/drv_q/div27/i-util/bnlphp14.zip

And include the compiled file into your binkd.config.

Or you can depend on the service by binkp.net which provides a dns service for node lookups, configured like this:

#
# Overrides root domain for DNS lookups, see 'node' below.
#
root-domain binkp.net


Bye, Wilfred.

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Hello Javier!

On Sun, 21 Sep 2025 12:48 +0200, Wilfred van Velzen wrote to you:

Or you can "compile" the nodelist to a format that binkd can use. I'm using this php script: http://ambrosia60.ddnss.org/53f8ee03/drv_q/div27/i-util/bnlphp14.zip

There is also this tool: https://github.com/shadowlmd/ndl2bnkd/
Supports multiple nodelists and pointlists.


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Hello Alexey!

22 Sep 25 08:45, you wrote to me:

Thank you, I will try to compile it for FreeBSD.

Hello Javier!

On Sun, 21 Sep 2025 12:48 +0200, Wilfred van Velzen wrote to you:

Or you can "compile" the nodelist to a format that binkd can use.
I'm using this php script:
http://ambrosia60.ddnss.org/53f8ee03/drv_q/div27/i-util/bnlphp14.
zip

There is also this tool: https://github.com/shadowlmd/ndl2bnkd/
Supports multiple nodelists and pointlists.

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Javier


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This is the way I did it:

domain fidonet /fido/outbound 2
domain fido alias-for fidonet
domain fidonet.org alias-for fidonet
domain amiganet /fido/amiganet 2
domain fsxnet /fido/fsxnet 2
domain micronet /fido/micronet 2



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Hey Joacim!

On Tue, 23 Sep 2025 21:29:42 , you wrote:

This is the way I did it:

domain fidonet /fido/outbound 2
domain fido alias-for fidonet
domain fidonet.org alias-for fidonet
domain amiganet /fido/amiganet 2
domain fsxnet /fido/fsxnet 2
domain micronet /fido/micronet 2

Someone can correct me if I'm wrong here, but after checking HPT's docs and sample config files:

The difference here is that you use Crashmail, where I believe you can specify a separate outbound directory for each network. I'm not sure you can do that with HPT. HPT uses hex extensions to the original outbound directory for different zone numbers from your "default zone". So, for example, in HPT sample config:

outbound /home/username/fido/outbound

Sets only one outbound directory. However, when you setup other zones/networks, if your default zone is "2" it will automatically create outbound.001 (for zone 1) outbound.015 (zone 21), outbound.02e (zone 46), etc.

If there is another way to do this, maybe with the "GROUPS" keyword, I never bothered to look into it, since it works fine this way.

Binkd understands both of these methods, but the configuration for binkd to find those directories in use is a bit different.

So, for HPT, it would be:

domain fidonet /fido/outbound 2
domain amiganet /fido/outbound 2
domain fsxnet /fido/outbound 2

etc..

Regards,
Nick

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Hello Joacim!

23 Sep 25 21:29, you wrote to me:

What tosser/packer do you use?

This is the way I did it:

domain fidonet /fido/outbound 2
domain fido alias-for fidonet
domain fidonet.org alias-for fidonet
domain amiganet /fido/amiganet 2
domain fsxnet /fido/fsxnet 2
domain micronet /fido/micronet 2

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Javier


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Hello Joacim!

23 Sep 25 21:29, you wrote to me:

What tosser/packer do you use?

This is the way I did it:

domain fidonet /fido/outbound 2
domain fido alias-for fidonet
domain fidonet.org alias-for fidonet
domain amiganet /fido/amiganet 2
domain fsxnet /fido/fsxnet 2
domain micronet /fido/micronet 2

Crashmail II on Linux! Works very well.


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