Re: Re: Apple rolls out age v
By: Kurt Weiske to Rob Mccart on Fri Apr 03 2026 08:35 am

Look at inflation, the cost of livi
and the way kids have been
marketed to. My daughter's favorite
go-to is hanging out with friends
at a Starbucks, not riding bikes to
friends' houses or hanging out at a
park. And, that candy that was $.35
now $2.49.

We were different kids, though. For
us, it was all about building a
sense of independence - I could rid
my bike wherever I want to go,
don't need to ask my parents for mu
and head home when it started to
get dark. (My family had a locked-i
dinnertime of 7pm)

Well kids are pretty much priced out of
society now. For example, look at th
cost just to go to a movie at your
local movie theater. Not even to get
the concessions. Just the tickets. If
you live in a rural place you can still
get a semblance of that old traditional
American upbringing, but I think it's
just about dead everywhere else. I'm a
millenial, I was at least still able to
be able to ride my bike a few mile away
to the mall, watch a movie and be
independent with money I got helping
out friend's familie and every once in
a blue moon going to my buddy's house
toward the edge town that had horses
and such, and helpin there for odd
money. Shitty fast food job BARELY
covered that as well. But that was back
in 2005-2007. Nothing has been the same
since the ol' recession. And even then
it was already going away. It's little
wonder parents just make the one time
phone investment to "keep track of my
kids" and then the kids ultimately have
fuck all they can really do outside of
that once they are older than 7.





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We were taught so young about handling money it was a bit of a
shock when we found out the niece at age 10 or so had no idea
about limits on money at all. She figured you could buy anything
you wanted, you just went to the magic machine to get more money
out if you ran short..

My daughter can be conscientious around money, especially as she's

> starting to drive. Then, she'll come up with a "gem" like "Apple Pay
> isn't like real money..."

Ha.. I'm sure she is far from the only person with that 'problem'..

For many decades I only used cash for shopping because you see what
you are laying out, although in recent years, mainly since Covid,
I've taken to using cards because it's more convenient. They do go
out of their way to make it more convenient all the time..

Fortunately my spending is well controlled after all this time..

(?) I suppose time has nothing to do with it. I know a few people
my age that never got a handle on thier spending..

Funny (?) story.. There was a couple in this area who quite a few
years back won $1 million in a lottery.. They bought an island
and were building a nice cottage, bought 2 new cars.. etc.. etc..
and after about 2 years they were on the verge of bankruptcy.
That much money can make a lot of down payments apparently..

Now the 'funny' part.. Just before they went under they won
another lottery that got them out of trouble.. ($250k I think)

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Or maybe I just think there are more today because my parents, and most o my >> friends' parents, were not like that. There had to be some very convincing >> evidence before they'd ta our side over a teacher's.

I think this is still the norm. I think we tend to hear about the bad parents online and in the news more often than the people who are acting normally and never make it into there. My two cents.

Could be, especially considering that we didn't have social media to hear
about the bad ones as much back then.

Mike


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Rob Mccart wrote to KURT WEISKE <=-

For many decades I only used cash for shopping because you see what
you are laying out, although in recent years, mainly since Covid,
I've taken to using cards because it's more convenient. They do go
out of their way to make it more convenient all the time..

I went through a dark period of my life during a drawn-out separation
from my now ex-wife. We had several bitter support battles that
required sharing financial information. I got in the habit of taking
out my week's budget in cash from an ATM, then paying cash for lunches,
gas, incidentals, groceries...

As a nice side-effect, I had a tangible view of how much I'd spent that
week when I opened my wallet. And, got cash discounts when buying gas.
Overall, paying cash was a positive experience.




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Hello Kurt!

** On Sunday 12.04.26 - 10:30, Kurt Weiske wrote to Rob Mccart:

[...] I got in the habit of taking
out my week's budget in cash from an ATM, then paying cash for lunches,
gas, incidentals, groceries...

As a nice side-effect, I had a tangible view of how much I'd spent that
week when I opened my wallet. And, got cash discounts when buying gas.
Overall, paying cash was a positive experience.

I would have thought most people would say that a "paper" record, via debit/ creditcard, would offer a better "view" of monies spent vs cash.

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For many decades I only used cash for shopping because you see what
you are laying out, although in recent years, mainly since Covid,
I've taken to using cards because it's more convenient. They do go
out of their way to make it more convenient all the time..

I went through a dark period of my life during a drawn-out separation

> from my now ex-wife. We had several bitter support battles that
> required sharing financial information. I got in the habit of taking
> out my week's budget in cash from an ATM, then paying cash for lunches,
> gas, incidentals, groceries...

As a nice side-effect, I had a tangible view of how much I'd spent that

> week when I opened my wallet. And, got cash discounts when buying gas.
> Overall, paying cash was a positive experience.

Yes, and doing things like that is more important for some people than
others. Not everyone can handle money well.

My parents were always upgrading their situation as far as possible,
which means money was pretty much always tight. They drummed into our
heads early on to be careful with money, which has been a life saver
at times over the years.

I also lost a wife along the way and, for a while, with a single
income and a mortgage to pay, I was almost having to choose between
paying the bills or eating. I remember eating the cheapest foods I
could find the last 2 or 3 weeks before my quarterly mortgage payment
came due..

Later after I sort of dropped out of normal society it served me
well again as I never really had much spare money until I finally
got old enough to get my Pension.. I now have more spare cash than
ever before but I still don't spend much more than I always have.
Better to have some spare in the bank than to live well and then
go bankrupt at the first unexpected expensive problem.

Somewhere I recall reading that Frugal people are the last to
be affected by bad times, and they are the least affected By them.

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Rob Mccart wrote to KURT WEISKE <=-

Somewhere I recall reading that Frugal people are the last to
be affected by bad times, and they are the least affected By them.

I'll run into one of those Frugal recipe videos on YouTube and think
they look pretty good. My family wouldn't fare so well if we had to cut
way back, though...



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[...] I got in the habit of taking
out my week's budget in cash from an ATM, then paying cash for lunches,
gas, incidentals, groceries...

As a nice side-effect, I had a tangible view of how much I'd spent that
week when I opened my wallet. And, got cash discounts when buying gas.
Overall, paying cash was a positive experience.

I would have thought most people would say that a "paper" record, via debit/

>creditcard, would offer a better "view" of monies spent vs cash.

But seeing those dollar bills disappear makes more of an impression
than having a nice neat list of what you bought.. B)

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Somewhere I recall reading that Frugal people are the last to
be affected by bad times, and they are the least affected By them.

I'll run into one of those Frugal recipe videos on YouTube and think

>they look pretty good. My family wouldn't fare so well if we had to cut
>way back, though...

Any significant change is always hard on people. I've lived as I do
for most of my life so in my case it's harder to talk myself into
spending MORE money than I had been used to.

When my pensions started I suddenly had about $1000 a month more
than I was used to having and now, 6+ years later I probably still
don't spent $100 a month more than I did back when I was 'poor'.. B)

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