He was the echo crumudgeron--and would probably have freely admitted so.
Did you ever hear about how he got his nickname--Uncle Dirty Dave or
UDD?

I often wondered about that.

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Hi Ben,

He was the echo crumudgeron--and would probably have freely admitted so. Did you ever hear about how he got his nickname--Uncle Dirty Dave or UDD?

I did not hear about that. Would you be willing to tell me? :-)

When he was younger (he didn't say how young), he worked as a
projectionist in a movie theater that showed movies not suitable for
children. At the time he was also dating (?, maybe just good friends, I
don't remember exactly what he said the relationship was) a woman who
had a teen age son. They knew several Dave/Davids and the son gave them
all nicknames to tell them apart, using Uncle as an honorific title.
Based on his place of employment, Dave Drum became Uncle Dirty Dave to
this young man. I've forgotten how/why he started using it on the echo
but I always thought of him as more of a teddy bear than UDD. (G)

That part is properly called a casing; hems are at the bottom. Still, good going.

Thanks for that information. Casting around online, i also found it listed in Wikipedia's sewing glossary.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glossary_of_sewing_terms

I've got a number of sewing books that have lists like that in it. Good
for beginners and for those of us that come across the new to them
terminology.

Last time RH> I sat down at the sewing machine was a couple of weeks

ago to make some RH> scrappy kitty toys for my sister's cat. Scraps of
denim and a bag of RH> fiberfill plus a bit of time made for an easy
project.

That's fun. I recall hearing a mother talk about being concerned with
how much time her son was spending in front of screens. The only
thing she found that could compete with screen time was his love of playing with
small animals, such as cats.

A fishing pole is a good cat toy--tie something to the end of the line,
cast and reel in. I've a friend that owned several cats and they all
enjoyed chasing whatever was at the end of the line. With our older
daughter's cats, Steve would have them chase a laser pointer. When he
wanted to stop, he'd "run the spot" under a piece of furniture. Cats
would sit, watching it, for hours so he'd resume the play by "running
the spot" back out from under the furniture piece.

Very often we've gotten a fresh pumpkin, drawn a face on it with a

marker RH> and set it out for halloween. Afterwards I'll cut it up, cook
it down in RH> the pressure cooker and freeze the results for later use.
Since Steve's RH> birthday is right near halloween, I used to make him a pumpkin pie. Since RH> his mom gave us the recipe in the early 90's,
tho, I make a pumpkin roll RH> instead. Not really any more effort than
a pie but the results are (IMO), RH> much tastier.

I know someone who insists on pie pumpkins. I've made desserts out of jackolantern pumpkins and thought they turned out just fine. So i
guess it is a matter of taste. I believe i have your pumpkin roll recipe...

Title: Ruth's Pumpkin Roll
Categories: Desserts, Squash, Cheese, Nuts
Yield: 8 Servings

That's it! Don't know if Dave ever made it but it is now out in the vast universe of recipies. A few years ago, for some reason, I couldn't make
it for Steve's birthday so we bought a roll at Wegman's. As good as
Wegman's is for a lot of things, their pumpkin roll doesn't measure up
to my home made one. (G)

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Hi Mike,

He was the echo crumudgeron--and would probably have freely admitted

so. > Did you ever hear about how he got his nickname--Uncle Dirty
Dave or

UDD?

I often wondered about that.

I wrote a note to Ben today, explaining, as best as I remember Dave
telling, how he got the nickname. It's so out of his character, it's
funny.

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When he was younger (he didn't say how young), he worked as a
projectionist in a movie theater that showed movies not suitable for children. At the time he was also dating (?, maybe just good friends, I
don't remember exactly what he said the relationship was) a woman who
had a teen age son. They knew several Dave/Davids and the son gave them
all nicknames to tell them apart, using Uncle as an honorific title.
Based on his place of employment, Dave Drum became Uncle Dirty Dave to
this young man. I've forgotten how/why he started using it on the echo
but I always thought of him as more of a teddy bear than UDD. (G)

That is hilarious. :D

Mike


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Hi Mike,

When he was younger (he didn't say how young), he worked as a projectionist in a movie theater that showed movies not suitable for children. At the time he was also dating (?, maybe just good

friends, I > don't remember exactly what he said the relationship was)
a woman who > had a teen age son. They knew several Dave/Davids and
the son gave them > all nicknames to tell them apart, using Uncle as
an honorific title.

Based on his place of employment, Dave Drum became Uncle Dirty Dave

to > this young man. I've forgotten how/why he started using it on the echo > but I always thought of him as more of a teddy bear than UDD.
(G)

That is hilarious. :D

I'm sure he thought it was also. IIRC, he was either on the echo when I
joined in late January, 1994 or joined shortly afterwards. There isn't
nearly the traffic here that there was back then, a number of folks have
passed away and a lot more quit the echo for the internet. It was always
fun when we had the chance to meet other members--get to put faces
behind the posters and get to know them better, on a more personal
level. We met up with Nancy Backus a number of times since she lived in Rochester, NY, not too far from where Steve grew up. We still, from time
to time when we're in the area, go to the sushi place she introduced us
to.

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I'm sure he thought it was also. IIRC, he was either on the echo when I joined in late January, 1994 or joined shortly afterwards. There isn't
nearly the traffic here that there was back then, a number of folks have passed away and a lot more quit the echo for the internet. It was always
fun when we had the chance to meet other members--get to put faces
behind the posters and get to know them better, on a more personal
level. We met up with Nancy Backus a number of times since she lived in Rochester, NY, not too far from where Steve grew up. We still, from time
to time when we're in the area, go to the sushi place she introduced us
to.

IIRC, we lost a few when "Doc" threatened to take his system down. Dale
and I worked to get a user or two to start using my system instead. Dave
stuck around, but another one or two tried it a few times then stopped.

I have heard about the picnics. Sounds like there used to be a fairly
good crowd here. Still more discussion than many other places on the BBS networks. ;)

Mike
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Hi Mike,

I'm sure he thought it was also. IIRC, he was either on the echo

when I > joined in late January, 1994 or joined shortly afterwards.
There isn't > nearly the traffic here that there was back then, a
number of folks have > passed away and a lot more quit the echo for
the internet. It was always > fun when we had the chance to meet other members--get to put faces

IIRC, we lost a few when "Doc" threatened to take his system down.
Dale and I worked to get a user or two to start using my system
instead. Dave stuck around, but another one or two tried it a few
times then stopped.

We've tried to stay with one source of getting mail; IIRC, we've had
maybe 3 or 4 places we've pointed off of over the years. We've had some
others as back ups, used Dale for a while after Katrina knocked Marc
Lewis for a loop. He got back on his feet and we went back to pointing
off of him, do so to this day.

I have heard about the picnics. Sounds like there used to be a fairly good crowd here. Still more discussion than many other places on the
BBS networks. ;)

The first picnic we went to in 2007 hosted by the Shipps had a pretty
good turn out, second one in 2008 hosted by Janis had maybe about half
that number. We had to skip the 2009 one, then xxCarol had a small
gathering in 2010 that we attended. We got to a few more over the next
few years, hosted what has been the last one in 2019. Michal, Nancy,
Dale & Gail and Mark Lewis all enjoyed a good time around our kitchen
table. Haven't heard from Mark in some time and know that Michael, Nancy
& Dale are gone, don't know how Gail is doing.

It was fun getting together with the various echo members but the one on
one time we had to share with some of them was extra special. We like to
go to Taste of Japan in West Henrietta; Nancy introduced us to that
place. Last year we were in the area; the restaurant Steve's sibllings
wanted to go to was closed so we suggested ToJ. I think some of his siblings/spouses made plans to go back another time. (G)

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We've tried to stay with one source of getting mail; IIRC, we've had
maybe 3 or 4 places we've pointed off of over the years. We've had some others as back ups, used Dale for a while after Katrina knocked Marc
Lewis for a loop. He got back on his feet and we went back to pointing
off of him, do so to this day.

Yeah, I know some that point try to have three or more, but that could be
more in part because certain networks are only available certain places.

The first picnic we went to in 2007 hosted by the Shipps had a pretty
good turn out, second one in 2008 hosted by Janis had maybe about half
that number. We had to skip the 2009 one, then xxCarol had a small
gathering in 2010 that we attended. We got to a few more over the next
few years, hosted what has been the last one in 2019. Michal, Nancy,
Dale & Gail and Mark Lewis all enjoyed a good time around our kitchen
table. Haven't heard from Mark in some time and know that Michael, Nancy
& Dale are gone, don't know how Gail is doing.

I have not seen xxCarol in a while, either.

It was fun getting together with the various echo members but the one on
one time we had to share with some of them was extra special. We like to
go to Taste of Japan in West Henrietta; Nancy introduced us to that
place. Last year we were in the area; the restaurant Steve's sibllings
wanted to go to was closed so we suggested ToJ. I think some of his siblings/spouses made plans to go back another time. (G)

That is a nice memory that you can continue to share. ;)

Mike

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Hi Mike,

We've tried to stay with one source of getting mail; IIRC, we've had maybe 3 or 4 places we've pointed off of over the years. We've had

some > others as back ups, used Dale for a while after Katrina knocked Marc

Lewis for a loop. He got back on his feet and we went back to

pointing > off of him, do so to this day.

Yeah, I know some that point try to have three or more, but that could
be more in part because certain networks are only available certain places.

Got to make do with what you have available. Back in 1996, Steve was in
Korea and the apartment house where the guy I pointed with was hit by lightning. His equipment fried and I was without Fido for about 3
months. Finally got back into it thanks to someone we pointed from for
the next (IIRC) about 8 years. When he retired, we went with Marc Lewis;
I think probably close to 25 years now.

Dale & Gail and Mark Lewis all enjoyed a good time around our

kitchen > table. Haven't heard from Mark in some time and know that Michael, Nancy > & Dale are gone, don't know how Gail is doing.

I have not seen xxCarol in a while, either.

Come to think about it, I haven't either. Hope she doesn't get hit too
hard with the storm system (due to hit us shortly) that will travel up
the East Coast. I've a mock chili (goat meat, peppers, onion and a can
of diced tomatoes in the baby crock pot for supper--if the power goes
out, we'll move it to the camper to finish.

It was fun getting together with the various echo members but the

one on > one time we had to share with some of them was extra special.
We like to > go to Taste of Japan in West Henrietta; Nancy introduced
us to that

place. Last year we were in the area; the restaurant Steve's

sibllings > wanted to go to was closed so we suggested ToJ. I think
some of his

siblings/spouses made plans to go back another time. (G)

That is a nice memory that you can continue to share. ;)

Yes, and it's nice that the owner and his wife remember us even tho we
may get there every couple of years or so. Last time we were there,
after Steve's siblings/spouses left, we stayed and had a nice chat with
them. It was a quiet Monday night, not too much business so we had a
good visit. We'll probably get up to western NY sometime this spring and
will try to get over to ToJ again.

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Come to think about it, I haven't either. Hope she doesn't get hit too
hard with the storm system (due to hit us shortly) that will travel up
the East Coast. I've a mock chili (goat meat, peppers, onion and a can
of diced tomatoes in the baby crock pot for supper--if the power goes
out, we'll move it to the camper to finish.

Sounds delicious, you will have to let us know how it turns out.

Also, I am curious what makes it "mock"... sounds like a chili to me! ;)

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Hi Mike,

Come to think about it, I haven't either. Hope she doesn't get hit

too > hard with the storm system (due to hit us shortly) that will
travel up > the East Coast. I've a mock chili (goat meat, peppers,
onion and a can > of diced tomatoes in the baby crock pot for
supper--if the power goes > out, we'll move it to the camper to
finish.

Sounds delicious, you will have to let us know how it turns out.

It turned out pretty good. I cooked up some whole wheat spiral pasta to
put under it. And, it turns out, we kept our power on and water running
thru the pipes even tho we had rain, freezing rain, snow and sleet.
Primary roads are clear but it'll be a while before all secondary roads
are.

Also, I am curious what makes it "mock"... sounds like a chili to me!
;)

My usual chili takes a lot more time/fuss. I'll put in an assortment of peppers, meat will be usually be beef but used a combo of beef, goat and
elk in a prize winning chili. I'll also use onions, tomatoes (diced and
paste), then cook it long and low, letting it really combine flavors.
That's my competition style chili; I also make a family friendly one
with ground beef, bell pepper, onion, beans, tomato, corn and various
powdered peppers. It's milder, more for those that don't like it hot
(but it has also won a couple of cook offs). UDD introduced me to the
first version of chili; the second (family friendly) is a take off on
what Steve and I grew up with.

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Also, I am curious what makes it "mock"... sounds like a chili to me!
;)

My usual chili takes a lot more time/fuss. I'll put in an assortment of peppers, meat will be usually be beef but used a combo of beef, goat and
elk in a prize winning chili. I'll also use onions, tomatoes (diced and paste), then cook it long and low, letting it really combine flavors.
That's my competition style chili; I also make a family friendly one
with ground beef, bell pepper, onion, beans, tomato, corn and various powdered peppers. It's milder, more for those that don't like it hot
(but it has also won a couple of cook offs). UDD introduced me to the
first version of chili; the second (family friendly) is a take off on
what Steve and I grew up with.

OK, so now I know that "mock" means not competition level. :)

Mike
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Hi Mike,

Also, I am curious what makes it "mock"... sounds like a chili

to me! > MP> ;)

My usual chili takes a lot more time/fuss. I'll put in an assortment

of > peppers, meat will be usually be beef but used a combo of beef,
goat and > elk in a prize winning chili. I'll also use onions,
tomatoes (diced and > paste), then cook it long and low, letting it
really combine flavors. > That's my competition style chili; I also
make a family friendly one

with ground beef, bell pepper, onion, beans, tomato, corn and

various > powdered peppers. It's milder, more for those that don't
like it hot

(but it has also won a couple of cook offs). UDD introduced me to

the > first version of chili; the second (family friendly) is a take
off on > what Steve and I grew up with.

OK, so now I know that "mock" means not competition level. :)

Or in this case, just a throw together of some of my usual chili
ingredients. (G)

We're due for a big snow storm over the week end so we went to Wegman's
today to get a few things. Don't need bread, milk or eggs but picked up
some kimmelweck rolls and beef for supper tonight as well as a bagged
salad. Also got some split peas to use with a ham bone (probably Sunday,
if snowed in) as I'm planning to do chicken soup to use up a rotisserie
chicken tomorrow. I had to get some dill pickles (got Wegman's own
brand) so I can make rouladen next week. The store was crowded and a lot
of the shelves of basics (bread, milk, meat) were empty. Our fridge and freezers are quite well stocked, we have full propane tanks and we can
move into the camper if power goes out so we're set for snow. We've
still got some snow and ice from last week end's storm. (G)

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We're due for a big snow storm over the week end so we went to Wegman's
today to get a few things. Don't need bread, milk or eggs but picked up
some kimmelweck rolls and beef for supper tonight as well as a bagged
salad. Also got some split peas to use with a ham bone (probably Sunday,
if snowed in) as I'm planning to do chicken soup to use up a rotisserie chicken tomorrow. I had to get some dill pickles (got Wegman's own
brand) so I can make rouladen next week. The store was crowded and a lot
of the shelves of basics (bread, milk, meat) were empty. Our fridge and freezers are quite well stocked, we have full propane tanks and we can
move into the camper if power goes out so we're set for snow. We've
still got some snow and ice from last week end's storm. (G)

We are due some more snow starting late today. It won't be a lot but will
be falling on top of what we already have... ice (from sleet, thank
goodness) and compacted snow. It won't help matters but we should be ok
as they are not calling for any freezing rain this time.

I still wouldn't want to be in the store here today! ;)

Sounds like you are well stocked and well prepared for whatever might come your way. Good on you!

Mike
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Hi Mike,

We're due for a big snow storm over the week end so we went to

Wegman's > today to get a few things. Don't need bread, milk or eggs
but picked up > some kimmelweck rolls and beef for supper tonight as
well as a bagged > salad. Also got some split peas to use with a ham
bone (probably Sunday, > if snowed in) as I'm planning to do chicken
soup to use up a rotisserie > chicken tomorrow. I had to get some dill pickles (got Wegman's own

brand) so I can make rouladen next week. The store was crowded and a

We are due some more snow starting late today. It won't be a lot but
will be falling on top of what we already have... ice (from sleet,
thank
goodness) and compacted snow. It won't help matters but we should be
ok as they are not calling for any freezing rain this time.

We ended up with about 3.5 inches (measured on our back deck). Other
areas got a lot more, including 17" down in Swansboro on the coast where
we used to live. We were living there when they got 18", first week end
Of March, 1980--saw people using all sorts of improvised "shovels" to
clear sidewalks, paths to the door, etc.

I still wouldn't want to be in the store here today! ;)

Nor would I; I needed a few things but not bread, milk, etc. The soup
aisle was pretty well cleaned out, same with just about all ready to eat
stock, especially canned goods. I got my pickles, made rouladen Monday
night (will have left overs tonight).

Sounds like you are well stocked and well prepared for whatever might
come your way. Good on you!

We try to be. Right now I'm pulling from that stock to load up the
camper; we're heading down to Florida soon for a ham radio event. I like
to load up the camper some time in advance so I have time on the last
few days before we take off to catch the little odds and ends that have
to be done before leaving. This get together includes 2 pot lucks so
I've got to get some stuff for a veggie/relish tray for the first one.
Second one I'll be doing the crock pot goulash, have all I need for that
on hand but have to take it out to the camper.

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