• Re: book: windows 7 networking ?

    From Nick Andre@1:229/426 to August Abolins on Sat Nov 7 16:39:10 2020
    On 07 Nov 20 19:18:02, August Abolins said the following to Nick Andre:

    Can anyone recommend a comprehensive book on Windows 7 Networking

    Google.

    If it was my network, I would certainly dig around the 'net a little
    while for solutions.

    Not to get all grandstandish.... but I learnt everything about networking and some other things the "hard way".

    Sometimes its best just to buy a few computers second-hand and build a network on your kitchen table and make it work. Make it share files, make it have different subnets, make it implement an access policy.

    Then break the goddamn thing. Purposely trash the settings and screw it so your challenge is now to fix it.

    You can study all the books you want but the best learning is always hands-on.

    I have a way about myself that is motivated by people challenging me and assuming that I cannot do something. I *will* fix *any* tech problem. If I cannot, I will find someone who can. That simple...

    Nick

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  • From Jay Harris@1:229/664 to Nick Andre on Mon Nov 9 18:22:15 2020
    On 07 Nov 2020, Nick Andre said the following...

    Not to get all grandstandish.... but I learnt everything about
    networking and some other things the "hard way".

    Sometimes its best just to buy a few computers second-hand and build a networkon your kitchen table and make it work. Make it share files, make it have different subnets, make it implement an access policy.

    I'm the same way. Had to do all the book work for class, but I really
    learned doing everything in the hands-on labs in school and then going home and trying it all again there either via packet tracer or some cheap stuff I got on ebay or kijiji.

    Then break the goddamn thing. Purposely trash the settings and screw it
    so your challenge is now to fix it.

    Yup, some of the most frustrating and rewarding moments is when everything "should" work but doesn't & then you figure out why it didn't.

    I have a way about myself that is motivated by people challenging me and assuming that I cannot do something.

    I'm picturing John Locke in Lost yelling at people: "Don't tell me what I can't do!"

    Jay

    ... How do you make a good egg-roll? You push it down a hill!

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  • From Nick Andre@1:229/426 to Jay Harris on Mon Nov 9 18:40:15 2020
    On 09 Nov 20 18:22:15, Jay Harris said the following to Nick Andre:

    Yup, some of the most frustrating and rewarding moments is when everything "should" work but doesn't & then you figure out why it didn't.

    I was very, very lucky to work with what can only be described as
    total assholes over the years. Not sure what it was about them but aside
    from their personalities they were spot-on correct with troubleshooting 101. Start simple and work up from there. And if you cannot fix it, you either figure it out until its fixed, or you find someone else that can... there is no such thing as a no-fix scenario.

    Thats what they never really teach in tech classes as far as I can tell. They teach all the theory and components and thats fine but they do not teach you how to deal with being thrown into the lion's den. Stuff like inheriting a total freaking mess from the previous IT manager or the foundations of a network not designed correctly or all the software licensing poorly accounted for... or my favourite, major investments in process-systems and equipment obsolete with no software patches available and its not financially feasable to rip everything out.

    Now they also tend not to teach how to use those types of problems to your advantage when it comes to HR or negotiating a raise or whatever to make
    fixing things actually rewarding career-wise... taking negatives and making them into positives in the end.

    Nick

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