On 07 Nov 2025, Ron L. said the following...

Funny. The gov't controlling (but not owning) the means of production
is the very definition of "fascism".

@RonL, I hope we can pull out of this.

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IB Joe wrote to Dr. What <=-

Funny. The gov't controlling (but not owning) the means of production
is the very definition of "fascism".

@RonL, I hope we can pull out of this.

I hope so too. But the more I scruitinize our gov't, the more I realize that we don't have a Republic. We have something that is approaching Fascism.

IHMO: I think that's part of why some people embrace socialism. They feel that Capitalism has failed them. But what really happened is that we moved away from Capitalism and the failure they are feeling is really what happens when a society turns fascist.


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On 08 Nov 2025, Ron L. said the following...

I hope so too. But the more I scruitinize our gov't, the more I realize that we don't have a Republic. We have something that is approaching Fascism.

IHMO: I think that's part of why some people embrace socialism. They
feel that Capitalism has failed them. But what really happened is that
we moved away from Capitalism and the failure they are feeling is really what happens when a society turns fascist.

My thoughts as well. If I get too deep in a dive I am shocked that we are where we are.

Freedom and all that goes with it, from a US perspective was not what I was raised in.

My grandfather served overseas during WWII and I'm sure most "Normies" think this is fully retarded. <--- This is a comment on behavior and not on political leader's chromosomes

The financial capital of the world may fall to communism.

Tough times make strong men. Strong men make GREAT time. Great times make weak men... Weak men make tough times... and repeat.

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IB Joe wrote to Dr. What <=-

My thoughts as well. If I get too deep in a dive I am shocked that we
are where we are.

It's the old story about the "Frog in the Post". We allowed it to happen, slowly, over decades. Each erosion was almost imperceptable. The ones that noticed we labeled "conspircy theorists" or "alarmists".

Freedom and all that goes with it, from a US perspective was not what I was raised in.

You got that right. But people are fighting back. The current demand to eliminate property taxes, for example. They are selling it correctly this time. "I paid for it. Why do I have to pay the gov't to keep it?" "Why am I renting the land I paid for from the gov't?"

"You will own nothing and be happy."

The financial capital of the world may fall to communism.

The financial capital of the world have already been moving out of NYC for a while. With a commie as Mayor, the move will accellerate.

IHMO: This **NEEDS** to happen to teach people a lesson.

Tough times make strong men. Strong men make GREAT time. Great times make weak men... Weak men make tough times... and repeat.

And we are in tough times. The Elitists have been trying to make men weak, but they failed.


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On 09 Nov 2025, Ron L. said the following...

"You will own nothing and be happy."

This is on a topic we've talked about in the last couple days.


I heard Ron DeSantis was talking again on no property taxes in the state of Florida.

His problem is that this is done at the county level and not at the State.

He's asked for the house to formulate a law or a constitutional amendment
and they are giving him grief... Everything they have put together won't pass the threshold to advance it any further.

What Ron wants is this. Anyone who has Homesteaded their property you are eligible for property tax exemption.

For those who don't know... Homesteading your property in Florida means that that property is your primary residence and as such your the county makes your property for tax purposes cheaper. Homestead exemption is $50,722.00 and your taxes are calculated after that deduction.

One MAJOR benefit of Homestead is that that property is not subject to any assets you may have if you have been sued... Even the Federal government can sue you and they won't get your Homesteaded house.

Ergo, Trump's Mar-a-Lago fits this as well... Subject to lot size.

So if you own 5 properties in Florida and live in 1 of them and you have homesteaded it, that property will have no property taxes, the other 4 will.

So if you are sued the other properties may be added in as assets you own and your Homesteaded property is yours.

Ron claims that government spending has grown faster than the increase in people moving into the state.

Ron has started a new agency called Florida DOGE to find waste and fraud.

With the use of DOGE Ron is convinced that it can be done...

Spending in Miami-Dade county increases 50% in five years... Only ~65000 people have moved to Miami showing that Miami is spending ~13000 per person. They have hired new staff... apparently they hired a sh!t load of people
... most of those were bureaucrats.

Ron Says there is a spending problem and not a money problem.

One last point... There is a lady who works in Hillsborough County where she's on the property tax team and she works for a non-government agency, and she makes ~100K there, and said Hillsborough county donates a million in tax payer's money to that NGO... Where she gets paid 100K... and makes that, if not more, for working for the government at the county.

After listening to Ron for the 5th time I think he has a point.

The same corruption we learned about at the Federal level exists as you work your way down the ladder.

Cut out the wasteful spending and you won't be running a deficit never mind... well wasting tax payers money.

https://youtu.be/najgpA5GEI4?si=Dz4cSO85OIOvox5E

Every bill passed should go through DOGE before its implemented.

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IB Joe wrote to Dr. What <=-

His problem is that this is done at the county level and not at the
State.

Interesting. For me, it's done at the city level - as far as the tax bill.

But where does the authority to levy a property tax originate?

Remember: The Constitution does not grant citizens rights. It grants the gov't authority. So there needs to be something somewhere granting the gov't (at any level) the authority.

He's asked for the house to formulate a law or a constitutional
amendment
and they are giving him grief... Everything they have put together
won't pass the threshold to advance it any further.

They are probably right about that. The gov't doesn't like anything that reduces their tax collection.

Ron claims that government spending has grown faster than the increase
in people moving into the state.

It wouldn't surprise me in the least.

Ron has started a new agency called Florida DOGE to find waste and
fraud.

Good for him! We need that in Michigan and hopefully we'll get it after the midterms and we get a new Gov.

Spending in Miami-Dade county increases 50% in five years... Only
~65000 people have moved to Miami showing that Miami is spending ~13000 per person. They have hired new staff... apparently they hired a sh!t load of people ... most of those were bureaucrats.

Yup. That's the way it ususally goes.

The same corruption we learned about at the Federal level exists as you work your way down the ladder.

That should surprise no one by now.


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On 11 Nov 2025, Ron L. said the following...

Ron has started a new agency called Florida DOGE to find waste and fraud.

Good for him! We need that in Michigan and hopefully we'll get it after the midterms and we get a new Gov.

He never ran on this and I only started hearing him talk about it more recently.

Apparently he's surrounded himself with the right people to do this. I was not shocked at all to hear the opposition to this from the elected officials, who use taxpayer's money for re-election.

And the waste and fraud that is steeped into the mix. Ron is finished in 2026 so he might be focused on his legacy.

If what he says is true I hope he does it.

Rumor... His wife may run.

I'll leave this at that.

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