Re: pros and cons
By: Codefenix to Nightfox on Wed Dec 24 2025 08:44 am

Someone once a long time ago explained to me that scripting was not consider "true programming" since there was little to no consideration for lower-leve

I think long ago there was certainly a distinction, and you could probably notice a difference in results at the time.. but I'd say ever since it became 'coding', the term 'scripting' is obsolete and almost redundant, because it's all just considered programming now.

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Re: Re: pros and cons
By: Accession to Nightfox on Wed Dec 24 2025 07:36 pm

performing a command, and maybe even doing something else after the fact (NOT PROGRAMMING).

Like it or not, when you're scripting you're laying out a set of instructions for the computer to perform, in whatever language, and that's pretty much programming (these days).

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Re: pros and cons
By: poindexter FORTRAN to Denn on Thu Dec 25 2025 07:37 am

I'd call batch structured programming, compared to something like EXPECT, which I'd forgotten about. EXPECT was like a scripting language for the command line, looking for output from programs and entering input - you could use it to script a login to a PPP account for example. That feels like the "batch file" description you describe.

I would definatly say it's low level programming, easy enough for most to understand and do.
But I would say back in the good ol' DOS days it was very useful.

... Toto, I don't think we're in DOS anymore...

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Re: pros and cons
By: poindexter FORTRAN to Denn on Thu Dec 25 2025 07:35 am

the C programmers I knew would scoffingly state that HTML is a MARKUP LANGUAGE, not CODE.

"Code" is just how something is expressed. ASCII is a code for example (the C stands for Code).

But yeah, HTML is not programming, but JS absolutely is, and at least some uses of CSS are.
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Hey phigan!

On Thu, 25 Dec 2025 13:50:26 -0700, you wrote:

Like it or not, when you're scripting you're laying out a set of instructions for the computer to perform, in whatever language, and
that's pretty much programming (these days).

I don't think I could ever call myself a programmer because I can write a bash script that changes directories a few times and runs already compiled programs, simply because I don't want to do it manually every time. Automation, maybe. Programming, not so much.

Regards,
Nick

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Re: pros and cons
By: Accession to phigan on Fri Dec 26 2025 07:30 am

I don't think I could ever call myself a programmer because I can write a ba script that changes directories a few times and runs already compiled progra

If you were to paint a picture, does that automatically make you a painter or an artist?

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Hey Phigan!

On Fri, Dec 26 2025 20:56:38 -0600, you wrote:

If you were to paint a picture, does that automatically make you a
painter or an artist?

No, and I think that was kind of the whole point I was alluding to in
this conversation?

Regards,
Nick

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Re: Re: pros and cons
By: Accession to phigan on Sat Dec 27 2025 07:58 am

If you were to paint a picture, does that automatically make you a
painter or an artist?

No, and I think that was kind of the whole point I was alluding to in
this conversation?

You were saying it's not programming because you wouldn't call yourself a programmer. Just because you write a program doesn't mean you're a programmer much like just because you paint a picture doesn't mean you're an artist/painter.

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Hey phigan!

On Sat, 27 Dec 2025 11:26:48 -0700, you wrote:

You were saying it's not programming because you wouldn't call yourself
a programmer. Just because you write a program doesn't mean you're a programmer much like just because you paint a picture doesn't mean
you're an artist/painter.

If you're trying to get absolutely technical here, I said that a bash (or batch) script that changes directories a few times and runs already compiled programs, isn't programming.. and in my opinion, can't be ligitimately called a "program," either. So, I never really wrote a program in the first place, in order to call myself a programmer.

Therefore, your comparison is a wee bit off. Take it how you want, and if you want to compare apples to *broccoli, that's up to you.

* Yes, I used broccoli instead of oranges to avoid you comparing the two as both being fruit.

Regards,
Nick

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Re: pros and cons
By: Accession to phigan on Sat Dec 27 2025 01:16 pm

* Yes, I used broccoli instead of oranges to avoid you comparing the two as both being fruit.

A program is a set of instructions and a bash script is a set of instructions. That makes em a bit closer to eachother than apples and broccoli ;),

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You do not need to write a single line of JS to customize your
Synchronet BBS. Read that a few more times until you understand it.

You *CAN* write custom JS to do certain things, or modify existing JS
(which doesn't usually require much JS knowledge), but you don't *have*
to. That's the point.

Now, since you don't intend to run a BBS anyway, why don't you stop your trolling and ..... go away.

Dude I’m not trolling, that’s not my intention. That was just a rude comment, very immature and disrespectful. I’m not going anywhere, I’m on here for fun and maybe make a few friends.
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Re: Re: pros and cons
By: Accession to Nightfox on Wed Dec 24 2025 07:36 pm

I think that's sort of basically what I said? As I said above, I tend to call that scripting.

What's with the angry tone here?

I don’t know why bud, but there are some mean, angry, rude people on here. Let’s say someone new to bbsing wants to learn, try it out and get involved. They post a message on here and get ripped to shreds. They’re going to leave. People like that run newcomers off and it’s not cool at all. I have seen it on here way too much.
Take care of yourself bud, have a good one!
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