I am thinking of subscribing to the AUP. My current version is 4.15.219.30 I also have
PXW as well.

Is the update worth it. Is it a seamless upgrade that won't kill my current system? I don't
want to encounter any issues.

Mike Dippel

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I would suggest you wait awhile as PXW still has some issues to work out.

Terry

On Apr 12, 2026 10:27pm, Mike Dippel wrote to ALL:

I am thinking of subscribing to the AUP. My current version is 4.15.219.30 I also have
PXW as well.

Is the update worth it. Is it a seamless upgrade that won't kill my current system? I don't
want to encounter any issues.

Mike Dippel

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On 4/13/2026 1:03 PM, Terry Roati wrote to Mike Dippel:

I would suggest you wait awhile as PXW still has some issues to work out.

Terry

Thanks, Terry.

Mike Dippel

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I would suggest you wait awhile as PXW still has some issues to work out.

Terry

I am mostly content, because it was a better version of 8.0.16.


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There are few issues with PXW to be fixed, but if folks want to help with the betas then it helps make it better.

Terry

On Apr 13, 2026 08:44pm, Matthew Munson wrote to Terry Roati:

I would suggest you wait awhile as PXW still has some issues to work out.

Terry

I am mostly content, because it was a better version of 8.0.16.

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I would suggest you wait awhile as PXW still has some issues to work out.

Terry

I am mostly content, because it was a better version of 8.0.16.

yeah, i'm having ssues with pxw 10, like downlinks not getting what
they expect, ie no responses to areafix requests for example. between
that and pxw not saying my netmail conference doesnt exist, which it
does and claiming my Z!PX Z!LASTREAD user does not exist, which it
does.

Quite frankly, Ithink that claude ai bot is a worthless piece of crap.

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On Apr 13, 2026 01:03pm, Terry Roati wrote to Mike Dippel:

I would suggest you wait awhile as PXW still has some issues to work
out.

Terry

On Apr 12, 2026 10:27pm, Mike Dippel wrote to ALL:

I am thinking of subscribing to the AUP. My current version is
4.15.219.30 I also have
PXW as well.

Is the update worth it. Is it a seamless upgrade that won't kill my
current system? I don't
want to encounter any issues.

Mike Dippel

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Yeah, it's wortH it, but as with any upgrade BACKIUP!! BACKIUP!! BACKIUP!! BACKIUP!!

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On Apr 13, 2026 09:25am, Mike Dippel wrote to Terry Roati:

On 4/13/2026 1:03 PM, Terry Roati wrote to Mike Dippel:

I would suggest you wait awhile as PXW still has some issues to work out. ->>
Terry

Thanks, Terry.

Mike Dippel

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If you test pxw/10 you can get to be a node on pxnet. Like me and others.

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On 4/14/2026 1:55 PM, Terry Roati wrote to Matthew Munson:

@TID: PX/Win v10.0 PX96-0649M
@MSGID: 3:712/1321 FDE62C6B
@TZUTC: 1000

There are few issues with PXW to be fixed, but if folks want to help with the
betas then it helps make it better.

Which is why I have the px_beta echo on pxnet on my system accessible to fellow wins
sysops who might not otherwise have access to it.
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There are few issues with PXW to be fixed, but if folks want to help with the
betas then it helps make it better.

The file base improvements and the qwk networking fixes made the
investment worthy for the time being :)

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There is a long way to go to get PXW 100%.

Hector has been quite responsive getting fixes out once he knows tthe issue.

For most users, dealing with various issues is not good for them so waiting awhile makes sense.

Terry

On Apr 16, 2026 08:09am, Matthew Munson wrote to Terry Roati:

There are few issues with PXW to be fixed, but if folks want to help with

the

betas then it helps make it better.

The file base improvements and the qwk networking fixes made the investment worthy for the time being :)

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On Apr 17, 2026 10:07am, Terry Roati wrote to Matthew Munson:

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Oh, you're here, too. :) LOL

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On 2026 Apr 17 10:17:02, you wrote to Matthew Munson:

There is a long way to go to get PXW 100%.

i can attest to that... your "PxOnline" is terminating our connections too soon and not ACKing all the files sent... so my system tries sending them again on the next connection...

+ 18 Apr 09:22:45 [2599] incoming session with 180.150.99.174
- 18 Apr 09:22:45 [2599] SYS The File Bank BBS!
- 18 Apr 09:22:45 [2599] ZYZ Terry Roati
- 18 Apr 09:22:45 [2599] LOC Cairns, Australia
- 18 Apr 09:22:45 [2599] VER PxOnline/10.0 binkp/1.1
? 18 Apr 09:22:45 [2599] Cannot find domain for zone 3, assuming 'fidonet'
+ 18 Apr 09:22:45 [2599] addr: 3:712/1321@fidonet
+ 18 Apr 09:22:46 [2599] pwd protected session (MD5)
+ 18 Apr 09:22:46 [2599] sending /sbbs/ftn/out/fidonet.003/69e2a7f3.pkt as 69e2a7f3.pkt (1197)
+ 18 Apr 09:22:46 [2599] sending /sbbs/ftn/out/fidonet.003/69e2ab07.pkt as 69e2ab07.pkt (2390)
+ 18 Apr 09:22:46 [2599] sending /sbbs/ftn/out/fidonet.003/69e2ab22.pkt as 69e2ab22.pkt (3065)
+ 18 Apr 09:22:46 [2599] sending /sbbs/ftn/out/fidonet.003/69e2ac31.pkt as 69e2ac31.pkt (2042)
+ 18 Apr 09:22:46 [2599] sending /sbbs/ftn/out/fidonet.003/69e2ae4c.pkt as 69e2ae4c.pkt (1687)
+ 18 Apr 09:22:46 [2599] sending /sbbs/ftn/out/fidonet.003/69e2afd6.pkt as 69e2afd6.pkt (3101)
+ 18 Apr 09:22:46 [2599] sending /sbbs/ftn/out/fidonet.003/69e2b22a.pkt as 69e2b22a.pkt (3271)
+ 18 Apr 09:22:46 [2599] sending /sbbs/ftn/out/fidonet.003/69e2b6de.pkt as 69e2b6de.pkt (2728)
+ 18 Apr 09:22:46 [2599] sending /sbbs/ftn/out/fidonet.003/69e2ba91.pkt as 69e2ba91.pkt (3018)
+ 18 Apr 09:22:46 [2599] sending /sbbs/ftn/out/fidonet.003/69e2bbe6.pkt as 69e2bbe6.pkt (11430)
+ 18 Apr 09:22:46 [2599] sending /sbbs/ftn/out/fidonet.003/69e2bd23.pkt as 69e2bd23.pkt (20665)
+ 18 Apr 09:22:46 [2599] sending /sbbs/ftn/out/fidonet.003/69e2bd34.pkt as 69e2bd34.pkt (3370)
+ 18 Apr 09:22:46 [2599] sending /sbbs/ftn/out/fidonet.003/69e2c297.pkt as 69e2c297.pkt (3120)
+ 18 Apr 09:22:46 [2599] sending /sbbs/ftn/out/fidonet.003/69e2c3a3.pkt as 69e2c3a3.pkt (1655)
- 18 Apr 09:22:46 [2599] receiving 0B8619C4.SA5 (915 byte(s), off 0)
+ 18 Apr 09:22:46 [2599] sending /sbbs/ftn/out/fidonet.003/69e373f5.pkt as 69e373f5.pkt (1922)
+ 18 Apr 09:22:46 [2599] 0B8619C4.SA5 -> /sbbs/ftn/in/secure/0B8619C4.SA5
18 Apr 09:22:46 [2599] got *.[sS][aA]?, delayed creating /sbbs/data/fidoin.now
+ 18 Apr 09:22:46 [2599] rcvd: 0B8619C4.SA5 (915, 915.00 CPS, 3:712/1321@fidonet)
+ 18 Apr 09:22:46 [2599] sending /sbbs/ftn/out/fidonet.003/69e37523.pkt as 69e37523.pkt (10597)
+ 18 Apr 09:22:46 [2599] sending /sbbs/ftn/out/fidonet.003/69e37718.pkt as 69e37718.pkt (102940)
+ 18 Apr 09:22:46 [2599] sending /sbbs/ftn/out/fidonet.003/69e38331.pkt as 69e38331.pkt (8095)
+ 18 Apr 09:22:46 [2599] sending /sbbs/ftn/out/fidonet.003/69e3854a.pkt as 69e3854a.pkt (1712)
+ 18 Apr 09:22:47 [2599] sent: /sbbs/ftn/out/fidonet.003/69e37523.pkt (10597, 10597.00 CPS, 3:712/1321@fidonet)
+ 18 Apr 09:22:47 [2599] sent: /sbbs/ftn/out/fidonet.003/69e37718.pkt (102940, 102940.00 CPS, 3:712/1321@fidonet)
+ 18 Apr 09:22:47 [2599] sent: /sbbs/ftn/out/fidonet.003/69e38331.pkt (8095, 8095.00 CPS, 3:712/1321@fidonet)
+ 18 Apr 09:22:47 [2599] sent: /sbbs/ftn/out/fidonet.003/69e3854a.pkt (1712, 1712.00 CPS, 3:712/1321@fidonet)
? 18 Apr 09:23:02 [2599] timeout!
+ 18 Apr 09:23:02 [2599] done (from 3:712/1321@fidonet, failed, S/R: 4/1 (123344/915 bytes))
18 Apr 09:23:02 [2599] Creating /sbbs/data/fidoin.now
18 Apr 09:23:02 [2599] session closed, quitting...

those first 14 files have already been sent a few times :/
then we send four new ones with ACK and suddenly a timeout without ACK on the first ones...

oh, and the domain, @fidonet, is not on the system address, either, so my system assumes it is fidonet...

no idea how long this has been going on... i had to put all your system's mail on hold here when i noticed endless delivery attempts over and over and over...

)\/(ark

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Hi Mark,

My apologies, Hector has just provided me with a update to test, please let me know if the issue is still there and provide me with a log cut as it is a big help.

Thanks

Terry

On Apr 18, 2026 09:36am, mark lewis wrote to Terry Roati:

On 2026 Apr 17 10:17:02, you wrote to Matthew Munson:

There is a long way to go to get PXW 100%.

i can attest to that... your "PxOnline" is terminating our connections
too soon and not ACKing all the files sent... so my system tries
sending them again on the next connection...

+ 18 Apr 09:22:45 [2599] incoming session with 180.150.99.174
- 18 Apr 09:22:45 [2599] SYS The File Bank BBS!
- 18 Apr 09:22:45 [2599] ZYZ Terry Roati
- 18 Apr 09:22:45 [2599] LOC Cairns, Australia
- 18 Apr 09:22:45 [2599] VER PxOnline/10.0 binkp/1.1
? 18 Apr 09:22:45 [2599] Cannot find domain for zone 3, assuming
'fidonet' + 18 Apr 09:22:45 [2599] addr: 3:712/1321@fidonet
+ 18 Apr 09:22:46 [2599] pwd protected session (MD5)
+ 18 Apr 09:22:46 [2599] sending /sbbs/ftn/out/fidonet.003/69e2a7f3.pkt
as 69e2a7f3.pkt (1197)
+ 18 Apr 09:22:46 [2599] sending /sbbs/ftn/out/fidonet.003/69e2ab07.pkt
as 69e2ab07.pkt (2390)
+ 18 Apr 09:22:46 [2599] sending /sbbs/ftn/out/fidonet.003/69e2ab22.pkt
as 69e2ab22.pkt (3065)
+ 18 Apr 09:22:46 [2599] sending /sbbs/ftn/out/fidonet.003/69e2ac31.pkt
as 69e2ac31.pkt (2042)
+ 18 Apr 09:22:46 [2599] sending /sbbs/ftn/out/fidonet.003/69e2ae4c.pkt
as 69e2ae4c.pkt (1687)
+ 18 Apr 09:22:46 [2599] sending /sbbs/ftn/out/fidonet.003/69e2afd6.pkt
as 69e2afd6.pkt (3101)
+ 18 Apr 09:22:46 [2599] sending /sbbs/ftn/out/fidonet.003/69e2b22a.pkt
as 69e2b22a.pkt (3271)
+ 18 Apr 09:22:46 [2599] sending /sbbs/ftn/out/fidonet.003/69e2b6de.pkt
as 69e2b6de.pkt (2728)
+ 18 Apr 09:22:46 [2599] sending /sbbs/ftn/out/fidonet.003/69e2ba91.pkt
as 69e2ba91.pkt (3018)
+ 18 Apr 09:22:46 [2599] sending /sbbs/ftn/out/fidonet.003/69e2bbe6.pkt
as 69e2bbe6.pkt (11430)
+ 18 Apr 09:22:46 [2599] sending /sbbs/ftn/out/fidonet.003/69e2bd23.pkt
as 69e2bd23.pkt (20665)
+ 18 Apr 09:22:46 [2599] sending /sbbs/ftn/out/fidonet.003/69e2bd34.pkt
as 69e2bd34.pkt (3370)
+ 18 Apr 09:22:46 [2599] sending /sbbs/ftn/out/fidonet.003/69e2c297.pkt
as 69e2c297.pkt (3120)
+ 18 Apr 09:22:46 [2599] sending /sbbs/ftn/out/fidonet.003/69e2c3a3.pkt
as 69e2c3a3.pkt (1655)
- 18 Apr 09:22:46 [2599] receiving 0B8619C4.SA5 (915 byte(s), off 0)
+ 18 Apr 09:22:46 [2599] sending /sbbs/ftn/out/fidonet.003/69e373f5.pkt
as 69e373f5.pkt (1922)
+ 18 Apr 09:22:46 [2599] 0B8619C4.SA5 ->
/sbbs/ftn/in/secure/0B8619C4.SA5 18 Apr 09:22:46 [2599] got
*.[sS][aA]?, delayed creating /sbbs/data/fidoin.now
+ 18 Apr 09:22:46 [2599] rcvd: 0B8619C4.SA5 (915, 915.00 CPS, 3:712/1321@fidonet)
+ 18 Apr 09:22:46 [2599] sending /sbbs/ftn/out/fidonet.003/69e37523.pkt
as 69e37523.pkt (10597)
+ 18 Apr 09:22:46 [2599] sending /sbbs/ftn/out/fidonet.003/69e37718.pkt
as 69e37718.pkt (102940)
+ 18 Apr 09:22:46 [2599] sending /sbbs/ftn/out/fidonet.003/69e38331.pkt
as 69e38331.pkt (8095)
+ 18 Apr 09:22:46 [2599] sending /sbbs/ftn/out/fidonet.003/69e3854a.pkt
as 69e3854a.pkt (1712)
+ 18 Apr 09:22:47 [2599] sent: /sbbs/ftn/out/fidonet.003/69e37523.pkt (10597, 10597.00 CPS, 3:712/1321@fidonet)
+ 18 Apr 09:22:47 [2599] sent: /sbbs/ftn/out/fidonet.003/69e37718.pkt (102940, 102940.00 CPS, 3:712/1321@fidonet)
+ 18 Apr 09:22:47 [2599] sent: /sbbs/ftn/out/fidonet.003/69e38331.pkt (8095, 8095.00 CPS, 3:712/1321@fidonet)
+ 18 Apr 09:22:47 [2599] sent: /sbbs/ftn/out/fidonet.003/69e3854a.pkt (1712, 1712.00 CPS, 3:712/1321@fidonet)
? 18 Apr 09:23:02 [2599] timeout!
+ 18 Apr 09:23:02 [2599] done (from 3:712/1321@fidonet, failed, S/R: 4/1 (123344/915 bytes))
18 Apr 09:23:02 [2599] Creating /sbbs/data/fidoin.now
18 Apr 09:23:02 [2599] session closed, quitting...

those first 14 files have already been sent a few times :/
then we send four new ones with ACK and suddenly a timeout without ACK
on the first ones...

oh, and the domain, @fidonet, is not on the system address, either, so
my system assumes it is fidonet...

no idea how long this has been going on... i had to put all your
system's mail on hold here when i noticed endless delivery attempts
over and over and over...

)\/(ark

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a shiny thing!" ... Mixed feelings: mother-in-law backing off a cliff
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Hello mark!

18 Apr 26 09:32, you wrote to Terry Roati:

There is a long way to go to get PXW 100%.

i can attest to that... your "PxOnline" is terminating our connections
too soon and not ACKing all the files sent... so my system tries
sending them again on the next connection...

I've noticed similar issues with PxOnline with one of my downlinks. Their support tried telling him the problem is in mbcico. Any binkp implementation that can't talk to BinkD properly is broken, plain and simple. IRex, with all of its issues, works better than PxOnline currently.

I know I put a lot of time into testing mbcico when I added binkp CRC support to make sure that it didn't break other mailers.

Andrew

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On Apr 19, 2026 02:06am, Andrew Leary wrote to mark lewis:

Hello mark!

18 Apr 26 09:32, you wrote to Terry Roati:

There is a long way to go to get PXW 100%.

i can attest to that... your "PxOnline" is terminating

our connections

too soon and not ACKing all the files sent... so my

system tries

sending them again on the next connection...

I've noticed similar issues with PxOnline with one of

my downlinks.

Their support tried telling him the problem is in

mbcico. Any binkp

implementation that can't talk to BinkD properly is

broken, plain and

simple. IRex, with all of its issues, works better

than PxOnline

currently.

I know I put a lot of time into testing mbcico when I

added binkp CRC

support to make sure that it didn't break other

mailers.

that would be me, I'm the troublemaker. I'll switch back
over to Internet Rex.
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On Apr 19, 2026 02:06am, Andrew Leary wrote to mark lewis:

Hello mark!

18 Apr 26 09:32, you wrote to Terry Roati:

There is a long way to go to get PXW 100%.

i can attest to that... your "PxOnline" is terminating

our connections

too soon and not ACKing all the files sent... so my

system tries

sending them again on the next connection...

I've noticed similar issues with PxOnline with one of

my downlinks.

Their support tried telling him the problem is in

mbcico. Any binkp

implementation that can't talk to BinkD properly is

broken, plain and

simple. IRex, with all of its issues, works better

than PxOnline

currently.

I know I put a lot of time into testing mbcico when I

added binkp CRC

support to make sure that it didn't break other

mailers.

Andrew

---
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I've notified Hector Santos about this and have turned off
pxonline on my end and turned internet rex back on.
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On Apr 19, 2026 02:06am, Andrew Leary wrote to mark lewis:

Hello mark!

18 Apr 26 09:32, you wrote to Terry Roati:

There is a long way to go to get PXW 100%.

i can attest to that... your "PxOnline" is terminating our connections
too soon and not ACKing all the files sent... so my system tries
sending them again on the next connection...

I've noticed similar issues with PxOnline with one of my downlinks.
Their support tried telling him the problem is in mbcico. Any binkp implementation that can't talk to BinkD properly is broken, plain and simple. IRex, with all of its issues, works better than PxOnline currently.

I know I put a lot of time into testing mbcico when I added binkp CRC support to make sure that it didn't break other mailers.

Andrew

That would be me. I'm the troublemaker. I can switch back to Internet Rex in a flash if necessary.

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On 2026 Apr 19 12:02:08, you wrote to me:

My apologies,

you're alright...

Hector has just provided me with a update to test, please let me know
if the issue is still there and provide me with a log cut as it is a
big help.

i did not have a bunch of pkts waiting to be (re)sent but delivery does still show the problem...

in this log snippet, i renamed the hlo to dlo to trigger a delivery attempt... the pkts were sent and removed on this end... your system closed the connection without ACKing them so my system created an emoty dlo to trigger another poll...

timestamps are UTC-0400, FWTW...

+ 09:30 [9823] call to 3:712/1321@fidonet
09:30 [9823] trying tfb-bbs.org [180.150.99.174]...
09:30 [9823] connected
+ 09:30 [9823] outgoing session with tfb-bbs.org:24554 [180.150.99.174]
- 09:30 [9823] SYS The File Bank BBS!
- 09:30 [9823] ZYZ Terry Roati
- 09:30 [9823] LOC Cairns, Australia
- 09:30 [9823] VER PxOnline/10.0 binkp/1.1
- 09:30 [9823] OPT CRAM-MD5-4c80471f19e1f62ce0f758423a1126bf
+ 09:30 [9823] Remote requests MD mode
? 09:30 [9823] Cannot find domain for zone 3, assuming 'fidonet'
+ 09:30 [9823] addr: 3:712/1321@fidonet
+ 09:30 [9823] pwd protected session (MD5)
+ 09:30 [9823] sending /sbbs/ftn/out/fidonet.003/69e4d7fb.pkt as 69e4d7fb.pkt (12832)
+ 09:30 [9823] sending /sbbs/ftn/out/fidonet.003/69e4d816.pkt as 69e4d816.pkt (1909)
+ 09:30 [9823] sent: /sbbs/ftn/out/fidonet.003/69e4d7fb.pkt (12832, 12832.00 CPS, 3:712/1321@fidonet)
+ 09:30 [9823] sent: /sbbs/ftn/out/fidonet.003/69e4d816.pkt (1909, 1909.00 CPS, 3:712/1321@fidonet)
? 09:30 [9823] recv: connection closed by foreign host
+ 09:30 [9823] holding 3:712/1321@fidonet (2026/04/19 09:40:04)
+ 09:30 [9823] done (to 3:712/1321@fidonet, failed, S/R: 2/0 (14741/0 bytes))
09:30 [9823] restoring poll with `d' flavour
09:30 [9823] session closed, quitting...
09:30 [9822] rc(9823)=0

at this point, i saw the packets were no longer on my file system so i removed the empty dlo and will keep your system set to Hold for now...

)\/(ark

"The soul of a small kitten in the body of a mighty dragon. Look on my majesty, ye mighty, and despair! Or bring me catnip. Your choice. Oooh, a shiny thing!"
... For Sale: dining table with two legs and six toes.
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On 2026 Apr 19 02:02:26, you wrote to me:

There is a long way to go to get PXW 100%.

i can attest to that... your "PxOnline" is terminating our connections
too soon and not ACKing all the files sent... so my system tries
sending them again on the next connection...

I've noticed similar issues with PxOnline with one of my downlinks. Their support tried telling him the problem is in mbcico. Any binkp implementation that can't talk to BinkD properly is broken, plain and simple.

exactly... it is one of the reasons why i do run binkd and not something else that can do binkp...

IRex, with all of its issues, works better than PxOnline currently.

yeeeaaahhhhh, kinda... most packages i know of have figured out how to detect IRex and adjust for its defects...

FWIW: looking back through my logs, i note that these changes with PxOnline appeared on Apr 2 for me... at that time it was advertising binkp/1.0... then on 9 Apr it changed to binkp/1.1... as i recall, the problem of not ACKing sent files and then terminating the connection has not changed... at least when my system tries to send to PxOnline... i'll have to try to set aside some time to study further what happens over here when it connects and picks up mail... not sure when that may happen, though...

I know I put a lot of time into testing mbcico when I added binkp CRC support to make sure that it didn't break other mailers.

i feel ya, man...

)\/(ark

"The soul of a small kitten in the body of a mighty dragon. Look on my majesty, ye mighty, and despair! Or bring me catnip. Your choice. Oooh, a shiny thing!"
... Your society nods its head at any horror the American teenager can think to br
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On Apr 18, 2026 09:36am, mark lewis wrote to Terry Roati:

On 2026 Apr 17 10:17:02, you wrote to Matthew Munson:

There is a long way to go to get PXW 100%.

i can attest to that... your "PxOnline" is terminating our connections
too soon and not ACKing all the files sent... so my system tries
sending them again on the next connection...

+ 18 Apr 09:22:45 [2599] incoming session with 180.150.99.174
- 18 Apr 09:22:45 [2599] SYS The File Bank BBS!
- 18 Apr 09:22:45 [2599] ZYZ Terry Roati
- 18 Apr 09:22:45 [2599] LOC Cairns, Australia
- 18 Apr 09:22:45 [2599] VER PxOnline/10.0 binkp/1.1
? 18 Apr 09:22:45 [2599] Cannot find domain for zone 3, assuming
'fidonet' + 18 Apr 09:22:45 [2599] addr: 3:712/1321@fidonet
+ 18 Apr 09:22:46 [2599] pwd protected session (MD5)
+ 18 Apr 09:22:46 [2599] sending /sbbs/ftn/out/fidonet.003/69e2a7f3.pkt
as 69e2a7f3.pkt (1197)
+ 18 Apr 09:22:46 [2599] sending /sbbs/ftn/out/fidonet.003/69e2ab07.pkt
as 69e2ab07.pkt (2390)
+ 18 Apr 09:22:46 [2599] sending /sbbs/ftn/out/fidonet.003/69e2ab22.pkt
as 69e2ab22.pkt (3065)
+ 18 Apr 09:22:46 [2599] sending /sbbs/ftn/out/fidonet.003/69e2ac31.pkt
as 69e2ac31.pkt (2042)
+ 18 Apr 09:22:46 [2599] sending /sbbs/ftn/out/fidonet.003/69e2ae4c.pkt
as 69e2ae4c.pkt (1687)
+ 18 Apr 09:22:46 [2599] sending /sbbs/ftn/out/fidonet.003/69e2afd6.pkt
as 69e2afd6.pkt (3101)
+ 18 Apr 09:22:46 [2599] sending /sbbs/ftn/out/fidonet.003/69e2b22a.pkt
as 69e2b22a.pkt (3271)
+ 18 Apr 09:22:46 [2599] sending /sbbs/ftn/out/fidonet.003/69e2b6de.pkt
as 69e2b6de.pkt (2728)
+ 18 Apr 09:22:46 [2599] sending /sbbs/ftn/out/fidonet.003/69e2ba91.pkt
as 69e2ba91.pkt (3018)
+ 18 Apr 09:22:46 [2599] sending /sbbs/ftn/out/fidonet.003/69e2bbe6.pkt
as 69e2bbe6.pkt (11430)
+ 18 Apr 09:22:46 [2599] sending /sbbs/ftn/out/fidonet.003/69e2bd23.pkt
as 69e2bd23.pkt (20665)
+ 18 Apr 09:22:46 [2599] sending /sbbs/ftn/out/fidonet.003/69e2bd34.pkt
as 69e2bd34.pkt (3370)
+ 18 Apr 09:22:46 [2599] sending /sbbs/ftn/out/fidonet.003/69e2c297.pkt
as 69e2c297.pkt (3120)
+ 18 Apr 09:22:46 [2599] sending /sbbs/ftn/out/fidonet.003/69e2c3a3.pkt
as 69e2c3a3.pkt (1655)
- 18 Apr 09:22:46 [2599] receiving 0B8619C4.SA5 (915 byte(s), off 0)
+ 18 Apr 09:22:46 [2599] sending /sbbs/ftn/out/fidonet.003/69e373f5.pkt
as 69e373f5.pkt (1922)
+ 18 Apr 09:22:46 [2599] 0B8619C4.SA5 ->
/sbbs/ftn/in/secure/0B8619C4.SA5 18 Apr 09:22:46 [2599] got
*.[sS][aA]?, delayed creating /sbbs/data/fidoin.now
+ 18 Apr 09:22:46 [2599] rcvd: 0B8619C4.SA5 (915, 915.00 CPS, 3:712/1321@fidonet)
+ 18 Apr 09:22:46 [2599] sending /sbbs/ftn/out/fidonet.003/69e37523.pkt
as 69e37523.pkt (10597)
+ 18 Apr 09:22:46 [2599] sending /sbbs/ftn/out/fidonet.003/69e37718.pkt
as 69e37718.pkt (102940)
+ 18 Apr 09:22:46 [2599] sending /sbbs/ftn/out/fidonet.003/69e38331.pkt
as 69e38331.pkt (8095)
+ 18 Apr 09:22:46 [2599] sending /sbbs/ftn/out/fidonet.003/69e3854a.pkt
as 69e3854a.pkt (1712)
+ 18 Apr 09:22:47 [2599] sent: /sbbs/ftn/out/fidonet.003/69e37523.pkt (10597, 10597.00 CPS, 3:712/1321@fidonet)
+ 18 Apr 09:22:47 [2599] sent: /sbbs/ftn/out/fidonet.003/69e37718.pkt (102940, 102940.00 CPS, 3:712/1321@fidonet)
+ 18 Apr 09:22:47 [2599] sent: /sbbs/ftn/out/fidonet.003/69e38331.pkt (8095, 8095.00 CPS, 3:712/1321@fidonet)
+ 18 Apr 09:22:47 [2599] sent: /sbbs/ftn/out/fidonet.003/69e3854a.pkt (1712, 1712.00 CPS, 3:712/1321@fidonet)
? 18 Apr 09:23:02 [2599] timeout!
+ 18 Apr 09:23:02 [2599] done (from 3:712/1321@fidonet, failed, S/R: 4/1 (123344/915 bytes))
18 Apr 09:23:02 [2599] Creating /sbbs/data/fidoin.now
18 Apr 09:23:02 [2599] session closed, quitting...

those first 14 files have already been sent a few times :/
then we send four new ones with ACK and suddenly a timeout without ACK
on the first ones...

oh, and the domain, @fidonet, is not on the system address, either, so
my system assumes it is fidonet...

no idea how long this has been going on... i had to put all your
system's mail on hold here when i noticed endless delivery attempts
over and over and over...

)\/(ark

"The soul of a small kitten in the body of a mighty dragon. Look on my majesty, ye mighty, and despair! Or bring me catnip. Your choice. Oooh,
a shiny thing!" ... Mixed feelings: mother-in-law backing off a cliff
in your new car. ---
* Origin: (1:3634/12.73)

Yeah, I noticed an issue with a downlink of mine which is also running the same px version that his aka pool is not being presented, but when he uses internet rex to send, internet rex presents the entire aka poll from his system. I have confirmed this going the other way.
--- Platinum Xpress/Win/WINServer v10.0
* Origin: On the Brink *Buffalo, NY USA * brinkbbs.org (1:261/20)

Hi Mark,

Unfortunately I am the only major hub using PXW v10 so it is in my interest to help Hector fix any issues so that Interet Rex can be rested as it is no
longer supported.

I just installed another Beta update but will forward your message below as it will probably still be useful.

Any feedback and or log cut for the Beta just released is greatly appreciated.

Thanks.

Terry


On Apr 19, 2026 09:42am, mark lewis wrote to Terry Roati:

On 2026 Apr 19 12:02:08, you wrote to me:

My apologies,

you're alright...

Hector has just provided me with a update to test, please let me know
if the issue is still there and provide me with a log cut as it is a
big help.

i did not have a bunch of pkts waiting to be (re)sent but delivery does still show the problem...

in this log snippet, i renamed the hlo to dlo to trigger a delivery attempt... the pkts were sent and removed on this end... your system closed the connection without ACKing them so my system created an emoty dlo to trigger another poll...

timestamps are UTC-0400, FWTW...

+ 09:30 [9823] call to 3:712/1321@fidonet
09:30 [9823] trying tfb-bbs.org [180.150.99.174]...
09:30 [9823] connected
+ 09:30 [9823] outgoing session with tfb-bbs.org:24554 [180.150.99.174]
- 09:30 [9823] SYS The File Bank BBS!
- 09:30 [9823] ZYZ Terry Roati
- 09:30 [9823] LOC Cairns, Australia
- 09:30 [9823] VER PxOnline/10.0 binkp/1.1
- 09:30 [9823] OPT CRAM-MD5-4c80471f19e1f62ce0f758423a1126bf
+ 09:30 [9823] Remote requests MD mode
? 09:30 [9823] Cannot find domain for zone 3, assuming 'fidonet'
+ 09:30 [9823] addr: 3:712/1321@fidonet
+ 09:30 [9823] pwd protected session (MD5)
+ 09:30 [9823] sending /sbbs/ftn/out/fidonet.003/69e4d7fb.pkt as 69e4d7fb.pkt (12832)
+ 09:30 [9823] sending /sbbs/ftn/out/fidonet.003/69e4d816.pkt as 69e4d816.pkt (1909)
+ 09:30 [9823] sent: /sbbs/ftn/out/fidonet.003/69e4d7fb.pkt (12832, 12832.00 CPS, 3:712/1321@fidonet)
+ 09:30 [9823] sent: /sbbs/ftn/out/fidonet.003/69e4d816.pkt (1909,
1909.00 CPS, 3:712/1321@fidonet)
? 09:30 [9823] recv: connection closed by foreign host
+ 09:30 [9823] holding 3:712/1321@fidonet (2026/04/19 09:40:04)
+ 09:30 [9823] done (to 3:712/1321@fidonet, failed, S/R: 2/0 (14741/0 bytes)) 09:30 [9823] restoring poll with `d' flavour
09:30 [9823] session closed, quitting...
09:30 [9822] rc(9823)=0

at this point, i saw the packets were no longer on my file system so i removed the empty dlo and will keep your system set to Hold for now...

)\/(ark

"The soul of a small kitten in the body of a mighty dragon. Look on my majesty, ye mighty, and despair! Or bring me catnip. Your choice. Oooh,
a shiny thing!" ... For Sale: dining table with two legs and six toes.
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* Origin: (1:3634/12.73)

... Platinum Xpress & Wildcat!..... Nice!!!!
--- Platinum Xpress/Win/WINServer v10.0
* Origin: The File Bank BBS! (3:712/1321)