• Winpoint unzipt ineens niet meer

    From Chris Jacobs@1:103/705 to All on Wed Apr 15 07:01:46 2026
    After I requested a big rescan I seemed to receive no mail more.
    Then I found .zip files but not with .zip extension in my inbound.
    I unzipped them and then the .pkt files were tossed.

    How can I convince Winpoint to unzip self again in the future?

    Chris

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  • From Michiel van der Vlist@2:280/5555 to Chris Jacobs on Wed Apr 15 18:25:20 2026
    Hello Chris,

    On Wednesday April 15 2026 07:01, you wrote to All:

    After I requested a big rescan I seemed to receive no mail more.
    Then I found .zip files but not with .zip extension in my inbound.
    I unzipped them and then the .pkt files were tossed.

    How can I convince Winpoint to unzip self again in the future?

    Perhaps you need to configure your winpoint to not just except files with an extension of WE[0-9] but WE[A-Z] as well...


    Cheers, Michiel

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  • From Chris Jacobs@2:280/5555.11 to Michiel van der Vlist on Wed Apr 15 19:16:59 2026
    //Hello Michiel,//

    on *15.04.26* at *16:25:20* You wrote in area *WINPOINT*
    to *Chris Jacobs* about *"Winpoint unzipt ineens niet meer"*.

    MvdV> Hello Chris,

    MvdV> On Wednesday April 15 2026 07:01, you wrote to All:

    After I requested a big rescan I seemed to receive no mail more. Then I
    found .zip files but not with .zip extension in my inbound. I unzipped
    them and then the .pkt files were tossed.

    How can I convince Winpoint to unzip self again in the future?

    MvdV> Perhaps you need to configure your winpoint to not just except files
    MvdV> with an extension of WE[0-9] but WE[A-Z] as well...


    MvdV> Cheers, Michiel

    MvdV> --- GoldED+/W32-MSVC 1.1.5-b20170303
    MvdV> * Origin: he.net certified sage (2:280/5555)


    Don't know where to configure that but if that is the problem I expect that tomorrow, a .th* day, the problem will be over.
    We'll see.

    Regards,Chris Jacobs

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  • From Michiel van der Vlist@2:280/5555 to Chris Jacobs on Wed Apr 15 19:54:33 2026
    Hello Chris,

    On Wednesday April 15 2026 19:16, you wrote to me:

    MvdV>> Perhaps you need to configure your winpoint to not just except
    MvdV>> files with an extension of WE[0-9] but WE[A-Z] as well...

    Don't know where to configure that but if that is the problem I expect that tomorrow, a .th* day, the problem will be over. We'll see.

    If that is the problem it will only be over for the first ten files you receive that day and then the problem will be back.

    Maybe Rinaldo Visscher of 2:280/464.110 will be able to help you, he is also using winpoint.

    I also found this in the logs:


    - 15 Apr 10:54:46 [3892] incoming from 2001:1c00:6004:4500:946d:87d3:a434:ad5c + 15 Apr 10:54:46 [2028] incoming session with 2001-1c00-6004-4500-946d-87d3-a - 15 Apr 10:54:47 [2028] SYS Chris's Point
    - 15 Apr 10:54:47 [2028] ZYZ Chris Jacobs
    - 15 Apr 10:54:47 [2028] LOC Almere
    - 15 Apr 10:54:47 [2028] VER TCMBinkP/0.71 binkp/1.1
    + 15 Apr 10:54:47 [2028] addr: 2:280/5555.11@fidonet
    + 15 Apr 10:54:47 [2028] pwd protected session (plain text)
    + 15 Apr 10:54:47 [2028] sending \FIDO\OUTBOUND\011815b3.pnt\91EF1F96.WEA as 9 - 15 Apr 10:54:47 [2028] receiving 07632A16.pkt (1568 byte(s), off 0)
    + 15 Apr 10:54:47 [2028] 07632A16.pkt -> d:\fido\secure\07632A16.pkt
    15 Apr 10:54:47 [2028] got *, creating d:\fido\sema\binkdgot.now
    15 Apr 10:54:47 [2028] got *.PKT, creating d:\fido\sema\toss.now
    15 Apr 10:54:47 [2028] got *, delayed starting d:\fido\batch\mailrcvd.bat
    + 15 Apr 10:54:47 [2028] rcvd: 07632A16.pkt (1568, 1568.00 CPS, 2:280/5555.11@ + 15 Apr 10:55:16 [2028] sent: \FIDO\OUTBOUND\011815b3.pnt\91EF1F96.WEA (80349
    15 Apr 10:55:16 [2028] truncated \FIDO\OUTBOUND\011815b3.pnt\91EF1F96.WEA
    ? 15 Apr 10:55:16 [2028] recv: connection closed by foreign host
    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
    Where did that come from?

    + 15 Apr 10:55:16 [2028] done (from 2:280/5555.11@fidonet, failed, S/R: 1/1 (8


    Cheers, Michiel

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  • From Chris Jacobs@2:280/5555.11 to Michiel van der Vlist on Thu Apr 16 16:16:28 2026
    //Hello Michiel,//

    on *15.04.26* at *17:54:33* You wrote in area *WINPOINT*
    to *Chris Jacobs* about *"Winpoint unzipt ineens niet meer"*.

    MvdV> Hello Chris,

    MvdV> On Wednesday April 15 2026 19:16, you wrote to me:

    MvdV>>> Perhaps you need to configure your winpoint to not just except files
    MvdV>>> with an extension of WE[0-9] but WE[A-Z] as well...

    Don't know where to configure that but if that is the problem I expect
    that tomorrow, a .th* day, the problem will be over. We'll see.

    Happy Thursday!
    For now the problem is over.

    MvdV> If that is the problem it will only be over for the first ten files you
    MvdV> receive that day and then the problem will be back.

    MvdV> Maybe Rinaldo Visscher of 2:280/464.110 will be able to help you, he is
    MvdV> also using winpoint.

    MvdV> I also found this in the logs:


    MvdV> - 15 Apr 10:54:46 [3892] incoming from
    MvdV> 2001:1c00:6004:4500:946d:87d3:a434:ad5c
    MvdV> + 15 Apr 10:54:46 [2028] incoming session with
    MvdV> 2001-1c00-6004-4500-946d-87d3-a
    MvdV> - 15 Apr 10:54:47 [2028] SYS Chris's Point
    MvdV> - 15 Apr 10:54:47 [2028] ZYZ Chris Jacobs
    MvdV> - 15 Apr 10:54:47 [2028] LOC Almere
    MvdV> - 15 Apr 10:54:47 [2028] VER TCMBinkP/0.71 binkp/1.1
    MvdV> + 15 Apr 10:54:47 [2028] addr: 2:280/5555.11@fidonet
    MvdV> + 15 Apr 10:54:47 [2028] pwd protected session (plain text)
    MvdV> + 15 Apr 10:54:47 [2028] sending
    MvdV> \FIDO\OUTBOUND\011815b3.pnt\91EF1F96.WEA as 9
    MvdV> - 15 Apr 10:54:47 [2028] receiving 07632A16.pkt (1568 byte(s), off 0)
    MvdV> + 15 Apr 10:54:47 [2028] 07632A16.pkt -> d:\fido\secure\07632A16.pkt
    MvdV> 15 Apr 10:54:47 [2028] got *, creating d:\fido\sema\binkdgot.now
    MvdV> 15 Apr 10:54:47 [2028] got *.PKT, creating d:\fido\sema\toss.now
    MvdV> 15 Apr 10:54:47 [2028] got *, delayed starting
    MvdV> d:\fido\batch\mailrcvd.bat
    MvdV> + 15 Apr 10:54:47 [2028] rcvd: 07632A16.pkt (1568, 1568.00 CPS,
    MvdV> 2:280/5555.11@
    MvdV> + 15 Apr 10:55:16 [2028] sent: \FIDO\OUTBOUND\011815b3.pnt\91EF1F96.WEA
    MvdV> (80349
    MvdV> 15 Apr 10:55:16 [2028] truncated
    MvdV> \FIDO\OUTBOUND\011815b3.pnt\91EF1F96.WEA
    MvdV> ? 15 Apr 10:55:16 [2028] recv: connection closed by foreign host
    MvdV> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
    MvdV> Where did that come from?

    MvdV> + 15 Apr 10:55:16 [2028] done (from 2:280/5555.11@fidonet, failed, S/R:
    MvdV> 1/1 (8


    MvdV> Cheers, Michiel

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    Regards,
    Chris Jacobs
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  • From Chris Jacobs@2:280/5555.11 to Chris Jacobs on Sat Apr 18 23:41:31 2026
    //Hello Chris,//

    on *15.04.26* at *17:16:59* You wrote in area *WINPOINT*
    to *Michiel van der Vlist* about *"Re: Winpoint unzipt ineens niet meer"*.

    Hello Michiel,

    on 15.04.26 at 16:25:20 You wrote in area WINPOINT to Chris Jacobs about "Winpoint unzipt ineens niet meer".

    MvdV>> Hello Chris,

    MvdV>> On Wednesday April 15 2026 07:01, you wrote to All:

    After I requested a big rescan I seemed to receive no mail more. Then I
    found .zip files but not with .zip extension in my inbound. I unzipped
    them and then the .pkt files were tossed.

    How can I convince Winpoint to unzip self again in the future?

    MvdV>> Perhaps you need to configure your winpoint to not just except files
    MvdV>> with an extension of WE[0-9] but WE[A-Z] as well...


    MvdV>> Cheers, Michiel

    MvdV>> --- GoldED+/W32-MSVC 1.1.5-b20170303
    MvdV>> * Origin: he.net certified sage (2:280/5555)


    Don't know where to configure that but if that is the problem I expect that tomorrow, a .th* day, the problem will be over. We'll see.

    And the problem is back.
    Now I have two problems.

    Regards,Chris Jacobs

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    Regards,
    Chris Jacobs
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  • From Carlos Navarro@2:341/234.5 to Chris Jacobs on Sun Apr 19 18:04:29 2026
    Don't know where to configure that but if that is the problem I expect
    that tomorrow, a .th* day, the problem will be over. We'll see.

    And the problem is back.
    Now I have two problems.

    On my Winpoint point I have no problem when receiving compressed bundles like *.su1 (today).

    Under File -> Options -> Archivers -> pkzip -> properties, I have these:
    PKZip
    pkzip
    Integrated UnZIP

    Did you change any of those (default) options?

    Carlos
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  • From Chris Jacobs@2:280/5555.11 to Carlos Navarro on Sun Apr 19 18:34:21 2026
    //Hello Carlos,//

    I also have no problems with packets like *.SU1 (weekday + digit)
    The problem arises when i receive more than 10 times on a day.
    And it is with packets like *.WEA (weekday + letter)
    When I receive more than 10 times on a day.

    on *19.04.26* at *16:04:29* You wrote in area *WINPOINT*
    to *Chris Jacobs* about *"Winpoint unzipt ineens niet meer"*.

    Don't know where to configure that but if that is the problem I expect
    that tomorrow, a .th* day, the problem will be over. We'll see.

    And the problem is back.
    Now I have two problems.

    On my Winpoint point I have no problem when receiving compressed bundles like *.su1 (today).

    Under File -> Options -> Archivers -> pkzip -> properties, I have these:
    PKZip
    pkzip
    Integrated UnZIP

    Did you change any of those (default) options?

    Carlos
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    Regards,
    Chris Jacobs
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  • From Michiel van der Vlist@2:280/5555 to Carlos Navarro on Sun Apr 19 18:17:28 2026
    Hello Carlos,

    On Sunday April 19 2026 18:04, you wrote to Chris Jacobs:

    And the problem is back.
    Now I have two problems.

    On my Winpoint point I have no problem when receiving compressed
    bundles like *.su1 (today).

    But how about *.SU[A-Z]?


    And BTW, does Winpoint support PING by itself? And if zo how is it activated?


    Cheers, Michiel

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  • From Chris Jacobs@2:280/5555.11 to Michiel van der Vlist on Sun Apr 19 19:41:20 2026
    //Hello Michiel,//

    on *19.04.26* at *16:17:28* You wrote in area *WINPOINT*
    to *Carlos Navarro* about *"Winpoint unzipt ineens niet meer"*.

    MvdV> And BTW, does Winpoint support PING by itself? And if zo how is it
    MvdV> activated?


    MvdV> Cheers, Michiel

    MvdV> --- GoldED+/W32-MSVC 1.1.5-b20170303
    MvdV> * Origin: he.net certified sage (2:280/5555)

    In Winpoint is a filter option at file/options/filters.
    It can intercept mails to receivers you spcify, for example PING
    It kan send a text in reply or forward the mail to an external program.
    I have activated the filter now.

    Regards,Chris Jacobs
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  • From Michiel van der Vlist@2:280/5555 to Chris Jacobs on Sun Apr 19 19:31:06 2026
    Hello Chris,

    On Sunday April 19 2026 18:34, you wrote to Carlos Navarro:

    I also have no problems with packets like *.SU1 (weekday + digit)
    The problem arises when i receive more than 10 times on a day.
    And it is with packets like *.WEA (weekday + letter)
    When I receive more than 10 times on a day.

    That is what we thougt. But now I have seen it too with a SU6 file:

    === quote from log ===

    - 19 Apr 19:06:09 [4744] incoming from 2001:1c00:6004:4500:5060:215a:4493:2f88 (65061)
    + 19 Apr 19:06:09 [6036] incoming session with 2001-1c00-6004-4500-5060-215a-4493-2f88.cable.dynamic.v6.ziggo.nl [2001:1c00:6004:4500:5060:215a:4493:2f88]
    - 19 Apr 19:06:09 [6036] SYS Chris's Point
    - 19 Apr 19:06:09 [6036] ZYZ Chris Jacobs
    - 19 Apr 19:06:09 [6036] LOC Almere
    - 19 Apr 19:06:09 [6036] VER TCMBinkP/0.71 binkp/1.1
    + 19 Apr 19:06:10 [6036] addr: 2:280/5555.11@fidonet
    + 19 Apr 19:06:10 [6036] pwd protected session (plain text)
    + 19 Apr 19:06:10 [6036] sending \FIDO\OUTBOUND\011815b3.pnt\91EF1F96.SU6 as 91EF1F96.SU6 (2048)
    + 19 Apr 19:06:10 [6036] sent: \FIDO\OUTBOUND\011815b3.pnt\91EF1F96.SU6 (2048, 2048.00 CPS, 2:280/5555.11@fidonet)
    19 Apr 19:06:10 [6036] truncated \FIDO\OUTBOUND\011815b3.pnt\91EF1F96.SU6
    ? 19 Apr 19:06:11 [6036] recv: connection closed by foreign host
    + 19 Apr 19:06:11 [6036] done (from 2:280/5555.11@fidonet, failed, S/R: 1/0 (2048/0 bytes))

    === end quote ===


    Cheers, Michiel

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  • From Carlos Navarro@2:341/234.5 to Michiel van der Vlist on Sun Apr 19 20:01:55 2026
    On my Winpoint point I have no problem when receiving compressed bundles
    like *.su1 (today).

    MvdV> But how about *.SU[A-Z]?

    Just checked with *.SUA. No, it doesn't process it unless you rename to *.SU9 (for example).

    MvdV> And BTW, does Winpoint support PING by itself? And if zo how is it
    MvdV> activated?

    No.

    Carlos

    --- WinPoint 415.0
    * Origin: Original *WinPoint* Origin (2:341/234.5)
  • From Carlos Navarro@2:341/234.5 to Chris Jacobs on Sun Apr 19 20:02:05 2026
    I also have no problems with packets like *.SU1 (weekday + digit) The problem arises when i receive more than 10 times on a day. And it is with packets like *.WEA (weekday + letter) When I receive more than 10 times
    on a day.

    Until this issue is solved, I suggest you switch to uncompressed PKTs.

    Carlos

    --- WinPoint 415.0
    * Origin: Original *WinPoint* Origin (2:341/234.5)
  • From Chris Jacobs@2:280/5555.11 to Michiel van der Vlist on Sun Apr 19 20:29:29 2026
    //Hello Michiel,//

    on *19-4-2026* at *17:31:06* You wrote in area *WINPOINT*
    to *Chris Jacobs* about *"Winpoint unzipt ineens niet meer"*.

    MvdV> Hello Chris,

    MvdV> On Sunday April 19 2026 18:34, you wrote to Carlos Navarro:

    I also have no problems with packets like *.SU1 (weekday + digit) The
    problem arises when i receive more than 10 times on a day. And it is
    with packets like *.WEA (weekday + letter) When I receive more than 10
    times on a day.

    MvdV> That is what we thougt. But now I have seen it too with a SU6 file:

    That was when Winpoint suddently wanted to do maintenance again.
    See Subject: Maintenance hangs

    MvdV> === quote from log ===

    MvdV> - 19 Apr 19:06:09 [4744] incoming from
    MvdV> 2001:1c00:6004:4500:5060:215a:4493:2f88 (65061)
    MvdV> + 19 Apr 19:06:09 [6036] incoming session with
    MvdV> 2001-1c00-6004-4500-5060-215a-4493-2f88.cable.dynamic.v6.ziggo.nl
    MvdV> [2001:1c00:6004:4500:5060:215a:4493:2f88]
    MvdV> - 19 Apr 19:06:09 [6036] SYS Chris's Point
    MvdV> - 19 Apr 19:06:09 [6036] ZYZ Chris Jacobs
    MvdV> - 19 Apr 19:06:09 [6036] LOC Almere
    MvdV> - 19 Apr 19:06:09 [6036] VER TCMBinkP/0.71 binkp/1.1
    MvdV> + 19 Apr 19:06:10 [6036] addr: 2:280/5555.11@fidonet
    MvdV> + 19 Apr 19:06:10 [6036] pwd protected session (plain text)
    MvdV> + 19 Apr 19:06:10 [6036] sending
    MvdV> \FIDO\OUTBOUND\011815b3.pnt\91EF1F96.SU6 as 91EF1F96.SU6 (2048)
    MvdV> + 19 Apr 19:06:10 [6036] sent: \FIDO\OUTBOUND\011815b3.pnt\91EF1F96.SU6
    MvdV> (2048, 2048.00 CPS, 2:280/5555.11@fidonet)
    MvdV> 19 Apr 19:06:10 [6036] truncated
    MvdV> \FIDO\OUTBOUND\011815b3.pnt\91EF1F96.SU6
    MvdV> ? 19 Apr 19:06:11 [6036] recv: connection closed by foreign host
    MvdV> + 19 Apr 19:06:11 [6036] done (from 2:280/5555.11@fidonet, failed, S/R:
    MvdV> 1/0 (2048/0 bytes))

    MvdV> === end quote ===


    MvdV> Cheers, Michiel

    MvdV> --- GoldED+/W32-MSVC 1.1.5-b20170303
    MvdV> * Origin: he.net certified sage (2:280/5555)

    Regards,
    Chris Jacobs
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  • From Michiel van der Vlist@2:280/5555 to Carlos Navarro on Sun Apr 19 20:27:39 2026
    Hello Carlos,

    On Sunday April 19 2026 20:02, you wrote to Chris Jacobs:

    I also have no problems with packets like *.SU1 (weekday + digit)
    The problem arises when i receive more than 10 times on a day.
    And it is with packets like *.WEA (weekday + letter) When I
    receive more than 10 times on a day.

    Until this issue is solved, I suggest you switch to uncompressed PKTs.

    Uncompressed is my default setting voor nodes that I can crash.

    For points I'd rather not use uncompressed packets because if they do not poll ver often, it will clog my outbound with hundreds of unsent packets...


    Cheers, Michiel

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  • From Michiel van der Vlist@2:280/5555 to Carlos Navarro on Sun Apr 19 20:31:51 2026
    Hello Carlos,

    On Sunday April 19 2026 20:01, you wrote to me:

    On my Winpoint point I have no problem when receiving compressed
    bundles like *.su1 (today).

    MvdV>> But how about *.SU[A-Z]?

    Just checked with *.SUA. No, it doesn't process it unless you rename
    to *.SU9 (for example).

    That is not configurable?


    Cheers, Michiel

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    * Origin: he.net certified sage (2:280/5555)
  • From Chris Jacobs@2:280/5555.11 to Michiel van der Vlist on Sun Apr 19 21:00:28 2026
    Can I get an MN flag?

    Or would that just delay the problem till i received 36 times?

    //Hello Carlos,//

    on *19.04.26* at *18:02:05* You wrote in area *WINPOINT*
    to *Chris Jacobs* about *"Winpoint unzipt ineens niet meer"*.

    I also have no problems with packets like *.SU1 (weekday + digit) The
    problem arises when i receive more than 10 times on a day. And it is
    with packets like *.WEA (weekday + letter) When I receive more than 10
    times on a day.

    Until this issue is solved, I suggest you switch to uncompressed PKTs.

    Carlos

    --- WinPoint 415.0
    * Origin: Original WinPoint Origin (2:341/234.5)

    Regards,
    Chris Jacobs
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    * Origin: https://drschrisjacobs.nl (2:280/5555.11)
  • From Michiel van der Vlist@2:280/5555 to Chris Jacobs on Sun Apr 19 21:45:47 2026
    Hello Chris,

    On Sunday April 19 2026 21:00, you wrote to me:

    Can I get an MN flag?

    MN is a nodelist flag, It is meaningless for systems that can not reveive incoming calls.

    One solution is to not poll more than nine times a day. The better solution would be if Tim would update Winpoint to make it accept [A-Z].


    Cheers, Michiel

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    * Origin: he.net certified sage (2:280/5555)
  • From Michiel van der Vlist@2:280/5555 to Chris Jacobs on Sun Apr 19 21:50:11 2026
    Hello Chris,

    On Sunday April 19 2026 20:29, you wrote to me:

    I also have no problems with packets like *.SU1 (weekday +
    digit) The problem arises when i receive more than 10 times on a
    day. And it is with packets like *.WEA (weekday + letter) When I
    receive more than 10 times on a day.

    MvdV>> That is what we thougt. But now I have seen it too with a SU6
    MvdV>> file:

    That was when Winpoint suddently wanted to do maintenance again.
    See Subject: Maintenance hangs

    Aha.


    Cheers, Michiel

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    * Origin: he.net certified sage (2:280/5555)
  • From Carlos Navarro@2:341/234.1 to Michiel van der Vlist on Sun Apr 19 22:51:39 2026
    19 Apr 2026 21:45, you wrote to Chris Jacobs:

    One solution is to not poll more than nine times a day. The better solution would be if Tim would update Winpoint to make it accept
    [A-Z].

    Another solution might be that his bossnode sets this option to 'No' in his Fmail config:

    Extended bundle names

    Use 0-9 and A-Z instead of only 0-9 for mail bundle name
    extensions. Warning: Some programs do not recognize
    bundle name extensions that do not end on a digit.

    ;-)

    Carlos

    --- GoldED+/W32-MSVC 1.1.5-b20180707
    * Origin: cyberiada (2:341/234.1)
  • From Michiel van der Vlist@2:280/5555 to Carlos Navarro on Mon Apr 20 09:37:23 2026
    Hello Carlos,

    On Sunday April 19 2026 22:51, you wrote to me:

    One solution is to not poll more than nine times a day. The
    better solution would be if Tim would update Winpoint to make it
    accept [A-Z].

    Another solution might be that his bossnode sets this option to 'No'
    in his Fmail config:

    Extended bundle names

    Use 0-9 and A-Z instead of only 0-9 for mail bundle name
    extensions. Warning: Some programs do not recognize
    bundle name extensions that do not end on a digit.

    Yes, it is an option in Fmail. It is however a global setting. If I set that to "no", it will affect all my links that use compression.

    Oh c'mon... Using [0-Z] for bundle name extensions has been common practise for decades. If it turns out that Winpoint does indeed not support it, it should be fixed in the next update.


    Cheers, Michiel

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    * Origin: he.net certified sage (2:280/5555)
  • From Michiel van der Vlist@2:280/5555 to Carlos Navarro on Mon Apr 20 11:54:57 2026
    Hello Carlos,

    Monday April 20 2026 09:37, I wrote to you:

    Yes, it is an option in Fmail. It is however a global setting. If I
    set that to "no", it will affect all my links that use compression.

    Oh c'mon... Using [0-Z] for bundle name extensions has been common practise for decades. If it turns out that Winpoint does indeed not support it, it should be fixed in the next update.

    Maybe WInpoint has an option to execute a batch file on receipt of certain files?

    The the batch file could unpack de *.??[A-Z] files and Winpoint would process the unpacked *.pkt.


    Cheers, Michiel

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  • From Michiel van der Vlist@2:280/5555.1 to Chris Jacobs on Sat Apr 18 13:47:46 2026
    Hello Chris,

    On Thursday April 16 2026 16:16, you wrote to me:

    Don't know where to configure that but if that is the problem I
    expect that tomorrow, a .th* day, the problem will be over.
    We'll see.

    Happy Thursday!
    For now the problem is over.

    Did it return with today's *.SAA ?


    Cheers, Michiel

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  • From Chris Jacobs@2:280/5555.11 to Michiel van der Vlist on Tue Apr 21 18:30:18 2026
    //Hello Michiel,//

    on *18.04.26* at *11:47:46* You wrote in area *WINPOINT*
    to *Chris Jacobs* about *"Winpoint unzipt ineens niet meer"*.

    MvdV> Hello Chris,

    MvdV> On Thursday April 16 2026 16:16, you wrote to me:

    Don't know where to configure that but if that is the problem I expect
    that tomorrow, a .th* day, the problem will be over. We'll see.

    Happy Thursday!
    For now the problem is over.

    MvdV> Did it return with today's *.SAA ?

    Did not keep the logs but I guess Friday I polled less than 10 times.

    MvdV> Cheers, Michiel

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    Regards,
    Chris Jacobs
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  • From Carlos Navarro@2:341/234.1 to Michiel van der Vlist on Tue Apr 21 19:09:13 2026
    19 Apr 2026 20:27, you wrote to me:

    Until this issue is solved, I suggest you switch to uncompressed
    PKTs.

    Uncompressed is my default setting voor nodes that I can crash.

    Ok.

    For points I'd rather not use uncompressed packets because if they do
    not poll ver often, it will clog my outbound with hundreds of unsent packets...

    Another option would be setting a filebox...

    Carlos

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  • From Carlos Navarro@2:341/234.1 to Michiel van der Vlist on Tue Apr 21 19:17:52 2026
    20 Apr 2026 09:37, you wrote to me:

    Yes, it is an option in Fmail. It is however a global setting. If I
    set that to "no", it will affect all my links that use compression.

    Yes...

    Oh c'mon... Using [0-Z] for bundle name extensions has been common practise for decades. If it turns out that Winpoint does indeed not support it, it should be fixed in the next update.

    I agree. Let's see if Tim reads us and fixes this issue.

    In the meantime, if Chris polls so frequently I suppose that raw PKTs would be for him... but it's up to his boss, of course :-)

    Carlos

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  • From Michiel van der Vlist@2:280/5555 to Carlos Navarro on Wed Apr 22 10:29:12 2026
    Hello Carlos,

    On Tuesday April 21 2026 19:09, you wrote to me:

    Uncompressed is my default setting voor nodes that I can crash.

    Ok.

    For points I'd rather not use uncompressed packets because if
    they do not poll ver often, it will clog my outbound with
    hundreds of unsent packets...

    Another option would be setting a filebox...

    Or activate the option of not using Winpoint's internal tosser but something else instead. Like Fmail....


    Cheers, Michiel

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  • From Michiel van der Vlist@2:280/5555 to Carlos Navarro on Wed Apr 22 11:09:18 2026
    Hello Carlos,

    On Tuesday April 21 2026 19:17, you wrote to me:

    Oh c'mon... Using [0-Z] for bundle name extensions has been
    common practise for decades. If it turns out that Winpoint does
    indeed not support it, it should be fixed in the next update.

    I agree. Let's see if Tim reads us and fixes this issue.

    I haven't seen any activity from Tim in quiit a while, so I am not optimistic.

    In the meantime, if Chris polls so frequently I suppose that raw PKTs would be for him... but it's up to his boss, of course :-)

    Yes, Chris polls often. For now. No problem for me. It is my experience however that while new points often poll while they are still tuning, the poll frequency drops after their system has stabilized. So I will just wait and see...

    Cheers, Michiel


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  • From Wilfred van Velzen@2:280/464 to Michiel van der Vlist on Wed Apr 22 11:35:45 2026
    Hi Michiel,

    On 2026-04-22 11:09:18, you wrote to Carlos Navarro:

    I agree. Let's see if Tim reads us and fixes this issue.

    MvdV> I haven't seen any activity from Tim in quiit a while, so I am not optimistic.

    He must be busy writing FTSC documents, and/or setting up his 2:2/29 node...


    Bye, Wilfred.

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  • From Michiel van der Vlist@2:280/5555 to Wilfred van Velzen on Wed Apr 22 16:20:08 2026
    Hello Wilfred,

    On Wednesday April 22 2026 11:35, you wrote to me:

    MvdV>> I haven't seen any activity from Tim in quit a while, so I am
    MvdV>> not optimistic.

    He must be busy writing FTSC documents, and/or setting up his 2:2/29 node...

    Yeah, that must be it... ;-)


    Cheers, Michiel

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  • From Carlos Navarro@2:341/234.1 to Michiel van der Vlist on Wed Apr 22 20:52:45 2026
    22 Apr 2026 10:29, you wrote to me:

    Another option would be setting a filebox...

    Or activate the option of not using Winpoint's internal tosser but something else instead. Like Fmail....

    I think that the point of Winpoint is that it's a full point package that doesn't require installing a tosser or anything else.

    Anyway, AFAIK that would not be possible because it uses its own messagebase format.

    Carlos

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  • From Michiel van der Vlist@2:280/5555 to Carlos Navarro on Wed Apr 22 21:37:50 2026
    Hello Carlos,

    On Wednesday April 22 2026 20:52, you wrote to me:

    Another option would be setting a filebox...

    Or activate the option of not using Winpoint's internal tosser
    but something else instead. Like Fmail....

    I think that the point of Winpoint is that it's a full point package
    that doesn't require installing a tosser or anything else.

    Sure. But it is alway nice to have options...

    Anyway, AFAIK that would not be possible because it uses its own messagebase format.

    Owh... I didn't know that. The idea came from Chris himself, so presumably he thought it is possible. And I saw some traces of him experimenting with Fmail.

    So hopefully he did not completely mess up his system. We will have to wait and see...


    Cheers, Michiel

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  • From Chris Jacobs@2:280/5555.11 to Michiel van der Vlist on Thu Apr 23 00:48:58 2026
    //Hello Michiel,//

    on *22.04.26* at *19:37:50* You wrote in area *WINPOINT*
    to *Carlos Navarro* about *"Winpoint unzipt ineens niet meer"*.

    MvdV> Hello Carlos,

    MvdV> On Wednesday April 22 2026 20:52, you wrote to me:

    Another option would be setting a filebox...

    Or activate the option of not using Winpoint's internal tosser but
    something else instead. Like Fmail....

    I think that the point of Winpoint is that it's a full point package
    that doesn't require installing a tosser or anything else.

    MvdV> Sure. But it is alway nice to have options...

    Anyway, AFAIK that would not be possible because it uses its own
    messagebase format.

    Grok says it is not possible.
    Copilot says it is possible and made a .pdf describing what it thinks the settings should be.
    Copilot says the messagebase is JAM.

    MvdV> Owh... I didn't know that. The idea came from Chris himself, so
    MvdV> presumably he thought it is possible. And I saw some traces of him
    MvdV> experimenting with Fmail.

    MvdV> So hopefully he did not completely mess up his system.

    My important data are in OneDrive and in IMAP
    If I blow up my system I can re�nstall Windows and download my data from there.

    MvdV> We will have to wait and see...


    MvdV> Cheers, Michiel

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    Regards,
    Chris Jacobs
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  • From Chris Jacobs@2:280/5555.11 to Chris Jacobs on Thu Apr 23 06:21:22 2026
    //Hello Chris,//

    on *22.04.26* at *22:48:58* You wrote in area *WINPOINT*
    to *Michiel van der Vlist* about *"Re: Winpoint unzipt ineens niet meer"*.

    Hello Michiel,

    on 22.04.26 at 19:37:50 You wrote in area WINPOINT to Carlos Navarro
    about "Winpoint unzipt ineens niet meer".

    MvdV>> Hello Carlos,

    MvdV>> On Wednesday April 22 2026 20:52, you wrote to me:

    Another option would be setting a filebox...

    Or activate the option of not using Winpoint's internal tosser but
    something else instead. Like Fmail....

    I think that the point of Winpoint is that it's a full point package
    that doesn't require installing a tosser or anything else.

    MvdV>> Sure. But it is alway nice to have options...

    By now I know FMail is not an option.
    I did not have FMail configured properly yet but run in a problem that has nothing to do with FMail
    Calling external programs from Winpoint, a 32 bit program, on a system with OneDrive is unreliable.

    I made a simple oneline .bat program:

    echo External Programm started > c:\Users\chris\OneDrive\Desktop\echo.txt

    I have it called every time a netmail to user TEST comes in.
    It does not work.
    Too bad. If I could use FMail I could answer PINGs.

    Anyway, AFAIK that would not be possible because it uses its own
    messagebase format.

    Grok says it is not possible.
    Copilot says it is possible and made a .pdf describing what it thinks the settings should be. Copilot says the messagebase is JAM.

    MvdV>> Owh... I didn't know that. The idea came from Chris himself, so
    MvdV>> presumably he thought it is possible. And I saw some traces of him
    MvdV>> experimenting with Fmail.

    MvdV>> So hopefully he did not completely mess up his system.

    My important data are in OneDrive and in IMAP
    If I blow up my system I can re�nstall Windows and download my data from there.

    MvdV>> We will have to wait and see...


    MvdV>> Cheers, Michiel

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    Regards,
    Chris Jacobs
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    Regards,
    Chris Jacobs
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  • From Michiel van der Vlist@2:280/5555 to Chris Jacobs on Thu Apr 23 11:22:05 2026
    Hello Chris,

    On Thursday April 23 2026 06:21, you wrote to you:

    I think that the point of Winpoint is that it's a full point
    package that doesn't require installing a tosser or anything
    else.

    MvdV>>> Sure. But it is alway nice to have options...

    By now I know FMail is not an option.

    Pity. My personal opinion - note the word "personal" - is that Winpoint having its own message base is a negative. It is a barrier in going from point to full mode. If it were just using JAM, a widely spread "standard" one could have the benefit of using a variety of utilities written for JAM.

    I did not have FMail configured properly yet but run in a problem that
    has nothing to do with FMail Calling external programs from Winpoint,
    a 32 bit program, on a system with OneDrive is unreliable.

    Then stop using OneDrive. What is the benfit of using storage in the cloud for for a FidoNet message base anyway? And if one MUST use the cloud, stay away from Microsoft I'd say...

    Just keep the message base on a local HD. The required space is neglegible compared to what is available these days.

    I made a simple oneline .bat program:

    echo External Programm started >
    c:\Users\chris\OneDrive\Desktop\echo.txt

    I have it called every time a netmail to user TEST comes in.
    It does not work.
    Too bad. If I could use FMail I could answer PINGs.

    Too bad indeed.

    Another option would be to drop Winpoint and use Binkd, Famail and Golded instead...

    That way you would have a stepping stone to full node status as a bonus.

    Anyway, AFAIK that would not be possible because it uses its
    own messagebase format.

    Grok says it is not possible.
    Copilot says it is possible and made a .pdf describing what it
    thinks the settings should be. Copilot says the messagebase is
    JAM.

    So... there you go. You have to start thinking for yourself...

    MvdV>>> So hopefully he did not completely mess up his system.

    My important data are in OneDrive and in IMAP
    If I blow up my system I can re�nstall Windows and download my
    data from there.

    Hmmm.. if you mess up the data base by mixing formats, a file on OneDrive would be as easely corrupted as a file on local drive...


    Cheers, Michiel

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