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* people on GNU/Linux forums/listservs that are newer than Slackware
(mostly): don't reply, but for the threads being discussed (not for most newbies) know what they're talking about
* people on GNU/Linux chat rooms that are newer than Slackware (mostly):
don't pay attention until they jump in and ask what you already said, and
when you say scroll back, they get angry and say that's rude, and know
less than people on Usenet forums, but maybe more than some web-forums.

There's almost no way to ever get help from these autistics without
getting ignored or attacked for nothing.
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David Chmelik wrote:

* people on GNU/Linux forums/listservs that are newer than Slackware >(mostly): don't reply, but for the threads being discussed (not for most >newbies) know what they're talking about
* people on GNU/Linux chat rooms that are newer than Slackware (mostly): >don't pay attention until they jump in and ask what you already said, and >when you say scroll back, they get angry and say that's rude, and know
less than people on Usenet forums, but maybe more than some web-forums.

There's almost no way to ever get help from these autistics without
getting ignored or attacked for nothing.

Forums, groups, or other "get-togethers", are just mirrors of
societies.
Regards,
H.
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On 31/05/2026 01.37, David Chmelik wrote:

There's almost no way to ever get help from these autistics without
getting ignored or attacked for nothing.

If not asking anything and just posting something that kind of discredit
the community, then you may get more bad replies when you ask something.

Ask yourself what things you did do when you was a teenager you don't do anymore, why is that? Your priorities changed? Could it be that those
who been here when it all started may have other priorities than what
they had in the mid 1990's, it's 30 years ago and life change a lot.

During those 30 years, we seen an influx of former microsoft windows
users who seem to bring with the culture from their community into the
Linux community, but then society has changed too during the years and
LLM has joined in the recent years and made the internet to a worse
place than it was after ccp Chinese, Iranian, and russian bots spamming
with disinformation and those white power movements also poisoned the
internet quite a lot, so the LLM's has a tendency to be racists too...

If you want the gone days back, then start giving it back to the
community with your knowledge
--
//Aho
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On Sat, 5/30/2026 7:37 PM, David Chmelik wrote:

* people on GNU/Linux forums/listservs that are newer than Slackware (mostly): don't reply, but for the threads being discussed (not for most newbies) know what they're talking about
* people on GNU/Linux chat rooms that are newer than Slackware (mostly): don't pay attention until they jump in and ask what you already said, and when you say scroll back, they get angry and say that's rude, and know
less than people on Usenet forums, but maybe more than some web-forums.

There's almost no way to ever get help from these autistics without
getting ignored or attacked for nothing.

Not all the young people are happy right now.

If you're noticing that, try toning it down a bit.
Change your approach a bit.

These could be the people who don't have jobs.

We're now officially in a recession right now,
and the forecast for the summer is high unemployment
for young people. Sure, you can try to start your own
business, but "if no one is buying", again, you
could be disappointed that you made the effort and
it wasn't enough.

This place has had its ups and downs, but my burger
joint not far from the house, I went up there this
week and it was closed. There was the pretense of "renovation"
going on, but of course it's just out of business and is
not coming back. See, there is a consequence if you raise
the food prices. There's a good chance the
chain could go out of business. If one franchisee cannot
swing it, the others are likely in trouble too. This
week, it's expensive tomatoes. They've been slicing the
tomatoes extra-thin for quite a while now. At least
one restaurant is no longer serving tomatoes (like
in a club sandwich).

At the McDonalds, on the late shift the manager is
doing the job of "burger stuffer". He is short staffed
on purpose (one person for the window, himself making
the burgers). That's how that franchisee is making ends
meet. And the people not getting jobs, are young people.
And when young people show up at the McDonalds on the
customer side, they hang around for 10-15 minutes and
leave WITHOUT BUYING ANY FOOD. Which is surely weird
behavior. No, they're not even using the bathroom there.
It's just a rendezvous point for them.

So I'd say, yeah, society is a wee bit different now,
so watch what you say.

Paul
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On 30.05.2026 23:37 David Chmelik wrote:

* people on GNU/Linux forums/listservs that are newer than Slackware (mostly): don't reply, but for the threads being discussed (not for
most newbies) know what they're talking about

What means newer than Slackware?

* people on GNU/Linux chat rooms that are newer than Slackware
(mostly): don't pay attention until they jump in and ask what you
already said, and when you say scroll back, they get angry and say
that's rude, and know less than people on Usenet forums, but maybe
more than some web-forums.

Chat rooms are really bad for support, as they don't provide threads
people can subscribe and refer to.

There's almost no way to ever get help from these autistics without
getting ignored or attacked for nothing.

I also have autism, I can understand that people can become angry for
asking "the same" questions again or for asking "stupid" questions.

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On 31.05.2026 06:27 Heinz Schmitz wrote:

Forums, groups, or other "get-togethers", are just mirrors of
societies.

Although very special ones.

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On 31.05.2026 07:03 Paul Paul wrote:

On Sat, 5/30/2026 7:37 PM, David Chmelik wrote:

* people on GNU/Linux forums/listservs that are newer than
Slackware (mostly): don't reply, but for the threads being
discussed (not for most newbies) know what they're talking about
* people on GNU/Linux chat rooms that are newer than Slackware
(mostly): don't pay attention until they jump in and ask what you
already said, and when you say scroll back, they get angry and say
that's rude, and know less than people on Usenet forums, but maybe
more than some web-forums.

There's almost no way to ever get help from these autistics without getting ignored or attacked for nothing.

Not all the young people are happy right now.

Does that apply to old one?

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On Mon, 6/1/2026 6:45 AM, Marco Moock wrote:

On 31.05.2026 07:03 Paul Paul wrote:

On Sat, 5/30/2026 7:37 PM, David Chmelik wrote:

* people on GNU/Linux forums/listservs that are newer than
Slackware (mostly): don't reply, but for the threads being
discussed (not for most newbies) know what they're talking about
* people on GNU/Linux chat rooms that are newer than Slackware
(mostly): don't pay attention until they jump in and ask what you
already said, and when you say scroll back, they get angry and say
that's rude, and know less than people on Usenet forums, but maybe
more than some web-forums.

There's almost no way to ever get help from these autistics without
getting ignored or attacked for nothing.

Not all the young people are happy right now.

Does that apply to old one?

They're not quite as challenged.

I could paint a picture of what the future will bring,
when I tell you that the absenteeism rate in high school
at the moment is 30%. When I went to school, we had a
way of estimating this for ourselves, and the number
was 5% or so.

That's going to have consequences.

"What skills do you have ?"

"I can doom-scroll Tiktok with my thumb."

"Can you handle a slop bucket?"

"A what ?"

"You're hired."

Paul


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Marco Moock <[email protected]> writes:

On 30.05.2026 23:37 David Chmelik wrote:

* people on GNU/Linux forums/listservs that are newer than Slackware
(mostly): don't reply, but for the threads being discussed (not for
most newbies) know what they're talking about

What means newer than Slackware?

I guess it could mean younger than Slackware, i.e. born after 17 July
1993 and so would be now at most 32 years old. Interesting choice but
likely arbitrary.
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On 2026-06-01 at 15:21 ADT, Paul <[email protected]d> wrote:

On Mon, 6/1/2026 6:45 AM, Marco Moock wrote:

On 31.05.2026 07:03 Paul Paul wrote:

On Sat, 5/30/2026 7:37 PM, David Chmelik wrote:

* people on GNU/Linux forums/listservs that are newer than
Slackware (mostly): don't reply, but for the threads being
discussed (not for most newbies) know what they're talking about
* people on GNU/Linux chat rooms that are newer than Slackware
(mostly): don't pay attention until they jump in and ask what you
already said, and when you say scroll back, they get angry and say
that's rude, and know less than people on Usenet forums, but maybe
more than some web-forums.

There's almost no way to ever get help from these autistics without
getting ignored or attacked for nothing.

Not all the young people are happy right now.

Does that apply to old one?

They're not quite as challenged.

I could paint a picture of what the future will bring,
when I tell you that the absenteeism rate in high school
at the moment is 30%. When I went to school, we had a
way of estimating this for ourselves, and the number
was 5% or so.

30% ? Where? Everywhere in the world? Your home town? ...?

I'm sort of curious where this statistic applies to. Can you enlighten us?

Thanks.
Jim
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On Tue, 6/2/2026 3:56 PM, Jim Diamond wrote:

On 2026-06-01 at 15:21 ADT, Paul <[email protected]d> wrote:

On Mon, 6/1/2026 6:45 AM, Marco Moock wrote:

On 31.05.2026 07:03 Paul Paul wrote:

On Sat, 5/30/2026 7:37 PM, David Chmelik wrote:

* people on GNU/Linux forums/listservs that are newer than
Slackware (mostly): don't reply, but for the threads being
discussed (not for most newbies) know what they're talking about
* people on GNU/Linux chat rooms that are newer than Slackware
(mostly): don't pay attention until they jump in and ask what you
already said, and when you say scroll back, they get angry and say
that's rude, and know less than people on Usenet forums, but maybe
more than some web-forums.

There's almost no way to ever get help from these autistics without >>>>> getting ignored or attacked for nothing.

Not all the young people are happy right now.

Does that apply to old one?

They're not quite as challenged.

I could paint a picture of what the future will bring,
when I tell you that the absenteeism rate in high school
at the moment is 30%. When I went to school, we had a
way of estimating this for ourselves, and the number
was 5% or so.

30% ? Where? Everywhere in the world? Your home town? ...?

I'm sort of curious where this statistic applies to. Can you enlighten us?

Thanks.
Jim

It doesn't really matter, does it ?

What matters is that you should keep your eyes open
for what is happening where *you* live.

When you walk along a sidewalk, and a young person is wrapped in a
sleeping bag, right on the edge of the sidewalk, that's a little unusual
don't you think ? How would that happen ? Why would that happen ?
The individual wasn't even drinking age.

That's your society, falling apart while you watch.

Presumably Jim, by reading this thread and being curious
why young people would be cranky, your curiosity would be
aroused as to whether the young people where you live,
are cranky.

Paul
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On 2026-06-02 at 17:14 ADT, Paul <[email protected]d> wrote:

On Tue, 6/2/2026 3:56 PM, Jim Diamond wrote:

On 2026-06-01 at 15:21 ADT, Paul <[email protected]d> wrote:

On Mon, 6/1/2026 6:45 AM, Marco Moock wrote:

On 31.05.2026 07:03 Paul Paul wrote:

On Sat, 5/30/2026 7:37 PM, David Chmelik wrote:

* people on GNU/Linux forums/listservs that are newer than
Slackware (mostly): don't reply, but for the threads being
discussed (not for most newbies) know what they're talking about
* people on GNU/Linux chat rooms that are newer than Slackware
(mostly): don't pay attention until they jump in and ask what you
already said, and when you say scroll back, they get angry and say >>>>>> that's rude, and know less than people on Usenet forums, but maybe >>>>>> more than some web-forums.

There's almost no way to ever get help from these autistics without >>>>>> getting ignored or attacked for nothing.

Not all the young people are happy right now.

Does that apply to old one?

They're not quite as challenged.

I could paint a picture of what the future will bring,
when I tell you that the absenteeism rate in high school
at the moment is 30%. When I went to school, we had a
way of estimating this for ourselves, and the number
was 5% or so.

30% ? Where? Everywhere in the world? Your home town? ...?

I'm sort of curious where this statistic applies to. Can you enlighten us?

Thanks.
Jim

It doesn't really matter, does it ?

I think it does matter. Is that 30% in one utterly dysfunctional town/city/village somewhere in the world, or does that 30% represent some world-wide average? These are two widely different situations.

What matters is that you should keep your eyes open
for what is happening where *you* live.

I don't disagree. But if you are telling me that 30% absenteeism around
where I live is the case, then my level of concern has gone up a fair bit.

When you walk along a sidewalk, and a young person is wrapped in a
sleeping bag, right on the edge of the sidewalk, that's a little unusual don't you think ?

Very unusual, fortunately.

How would that happen ? Why would that happen ? The individual wasn't
even drinking age.

That's your society, falling apart while you watch.

Well, my society is not perfect. But I haven't heard of any young people
in that situation. Late teens and twenties who for whatever reason have
gotten addicted to drugs is bad, but "young" would be even worse.

Presumably Jim, by reading this thread and being curious
why young people would be cranky, your curiosity would be
aroused as to whether the young people where you live,
are cranky.

Most of them are too busy looking at their phones to be cranky.

Jim
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