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video streaming and online radio is much quieter in Chromium than
Firefox or Opera. One has to click on the loudspeaker icon and crank the volume slider way up to hear anything. Under Sparky linux (Debian
clone). What to check?
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On 03.06.2026 07:53 Woozy Song wrote:

video streaming and online radio is much quieter in Chromium than
Firefox or Opera. One has to click on the loudspeaker icon and crank
the volume slider way up to hear anything. Under Sparky linux (Debian clone). What to check?

Check pulseaudio pavucontrol levels per application.

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On Wed, 6/3/2026 2:34 AM, Marco Moock wrote:

On 03.06.2026 07:53 Woozy Song wrote:

video streaming and online radio is much quieter in Chromium than
Firefox or Opera. One has to click on the loudspeaker icon and crank
the volume slider way up to hear anything. Under Sparky linux (Debian
clone). What to check?

Check pulseaudio pavucontrol levels per application.

I couldn't get a file into Sparky Live to try, so I
used a Ubuntu Studio Live I had on hand in a VM. The
control for Firefox does not appear when Firefox
is merely running. The audio control only appears
when you toss a movie into the Firefox pane to have
it played. Then, the two sample movies I tossed into
Firefox, eventually caused Firefox to crash. A bit of
each of my test movies were played, but the movies
could not finish.

[Picture] pavucontrol.jpg

https://postimg.cc/kBdzCDfm

https://imgur.com/a/PmkRbtc

That's just to show what should have appeared there.

Paul



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On 2026-06-03 19:24, Paul wrote:

On Wed, 6/3/2026 2:34 AM, Marco Moock wrote:

On 03.06.2026 07:53 Woozy Song wrote:

video streaming and online radio is much quieter in Chromium than
Firefox or Opera. One has to click on the loudspeaker icon and crank
the volume slider way up to hear anything. Under Sparky linux (Debian
clone). What to check?

Check pulseaudio pavucontrol levels per application.

I couldn't get a file into Sparky Live to try, so I
used a Ubuntu Studio Live I had on hand in a VM. The
control for Firefox does not appear when Firefox
is merely running. The audio control only appears
when you toss a movie into the Firefox pane to have
it played. Then, the two sample movies I tossed into
Firefox, eventually caused Firefox to crash. A bit of
each of my test movies were played, but the movies
could not finish.

[Picture] pavucontrol.jpg

https://postimg.cc/kBdzCDfm

https://imgur.com/a/PmkRbtc

That's just to show what should have appeared there.

In my case, I left click on the volume applet, and one of the menu items
is "audio mixer".

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On Wed, 6/3/2026 1:49 PM, Carlos E.R. wrote:

On 2026-06-03 19:24, Paul wrote:

On Wed, 6/3/2026 2:34 AM, Marco Moock wrote:

On 03.06.2026 07:53 Woozy Song wrote:

video streaming and online radio is much quieter in Chromium than
Firefox or Opera. One has to click on the loudspeaker icon and crank
the volume slider way up to hear anything. Under Sparky linux (Debian
clone). What to check?

Check pulseaudio pavucontrol levels per application.

I couldn't get a file into Sparky Live to try, so I
used a Ubuntu Studio Live I had on hand in a VM. The
control for Firefox does not appear when Firefox
is merely running. The audio control only appears
when you toss a movie into the Firefox pane to have
it played. Then, the two sample movies I tossed into
Firefox, eventually caused Firefox to crash. A bit of
each of my test movies were played, but the movies
could not finish.

     [Picture]  pavucontrol.jpg

      https://postimg.cc/kBdzCDfm

      https://imgur.com/a/PmkRbtc

That's just to show what should have appeared there.

In my case, I left click on the volume applet, and one of the menu items is "audio mixer".

using XFCE on Leap 15.6

The application in the Ubuntu Studio picture might be pavucontrol, not really sure.
I don't know if a person found only Pipewire in their distro, whether
there is the equivalent of a pavucontrol for that or not. The alsamixers I've looked at so far, don't have sliders at an application level, only a device level.

The Sparky Live seems a bit unfinished. I installed "samba" and
that still didn't give me working file sharing. The file manager
didn't have a sharing tab. The inxi output did not have multiple
audio servers, and I don't know if that has consequences
for being able to view application volumes or not.

Name: sparkylinux-8.3-x86_64-lxqt.iso
Size: 2,316,304,384 bytes (2209 MiB)
SHA256: 37F78518FEC75D11213A2745B18CCBD6D3274F3B856B8AEA07068C798BA7FCE7

Presumably someone more familiar with the environment, knows
the recipes for correcting things like this.

I can do a few simple things in Linux, to correct the odd thing,
but I'm not "tree herder class" and I don't know the dependency
tree of everything I see on an arbitrary screen.

I was thinking maybe, as an alternative, I could bring up Fedora
and run audio scenarios, but as soon as packages use Snap, AppImage,
Flatpak, that completely invalidates the test results. If a user
is known to be using .deb, then you test the .deb version of a thing.
Then the dangly bits, are Debian dangly bits and not yet-another-subsys
from there to the containerized content.

Paul

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Paul wrote:

I was thinking maybe, as an alternative, I could bring up Fedora
and run audio scenarios, but as soon as packages use Snap, AppImage,
Flatpak, that completely invalidates the test results. If a user
is known to be using .deb, then you test the .deb version of a thing.
Then the dangly bits, are Debian dangly bits and not yet-another-subsys
from there to the containerized content.

Paul

inxi -Aa for me reports:
Audio:
Device-1: Intel 100 Series/C230 Series Family HD Audio vendor: Gigabyte
driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel alternate: snd_soc_avs bus-ID: 00:1f.3
chip-ID: 8086:a170 class-ID: 0403
Device-2: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD/ATI] Redwood HDMI Audio [Radeon HD
5000 Series] vendor: Gigabyte driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel pcie:
gen: 2
speed: 5 GT/s lanes: 16 link-max: gen: 1 speed: 2.5 GT/s bus-ID:
01:00.1
chip-ID: 1002:aa60 class-ID: 0403
API: ALSA v: k6.12.90+deb13.1-amd64 status: kernel-api with: aoss
type: oss-emulator tools: alsactl,alsamixer,amixer
Server-1: aRts v: 1.5.10 status: off with: artswrapper status: off
tools: artsdsp
Server-2: PipeWire v: 1.4.2 status: active with: 1: pipewire-pulse
status: active 2: wireplumber status: active tools: pw-cat,pw-cli,wpctl
Server-3: PulseAudio v: 17.0 status: off (using pipewire-pulse)
tools: pacat,pactl
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Marco Moock wrote:

On 03.06.2026 07:53 Woozy Song wrote:

video streaming and online radio is much quieter in Chromium than
Firefox or Opera. One has to click on the loudspeaker icon and crank
the volume slider way up to hear anything. Under Sparky linux (Debian
clone). What to check?

Check pulseaudio pavucontrol levels per application.

pavucontrol does not show Chromium
but 'pactl list sink-inputs'
shows Chromium is down 18 dB compared to the others

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On Wed, 6/3/2026 10:59 PM, Woozy Song wrote:

Marco Moock wrote:

On 03.06.2026 07:53 Woozy Song wrote:

video streaming and online radio is much quieter in Chromium than
Firefox or Opera. One has to click on the loudspeaker icon and crank
the volume slider way up to hear anything. Under Sparky linux (Debian
clone). What to check?

Check pulseaudio pavucontrol levels per application.

pavucontrol does not show Chromium
but  'pactl list sink-inputs'
shows Chromium is down 18 dB compared to the others

I tried the experiment on Linus Mint 213 (SSD#11) and
the "Pactl list sink-inputs" works and the output corresponds
to the "Applications Slider" in the Sound Settings there.

[Picture] LM213-pactl-volume-setting.jpg

https://postimg.cc/ZvSc9y13

https://imgur.com/a/NYr4FZn

Only Chromium is playing a movie there and Firefox
is not running, so the "Applications" tab only has the
one entry. If you can see that slider, while a movie is
playing, you should be able to correct the gain.

Paul
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Paul wrote:

I tried the experiment on Linus Mint 213 (SSD#11) and
the "Pactl list sink-inputs" works and the output corresponds
to the "Applications Slider" in the Sound Settings there.

[Picture] LM213-pactl-volume-setting.jpg

https://postimg.cc/ZvSc9y13

https://imgur.com/a/NYr4FZn

Only Chromium is playing a movie there and Firefox
is not running, so the "Applications" tab only has the
one entry. If you can see that slider, while a movie is
playing, you should be able to correct the gain.

Paul

all sorted now, I found out how to change it back to audible level.
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