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fir <[email protected]> wrote:

if so youre ery vrong ai is terribly shocking in positive sense...
but its hard to talk on this with someone if someone not accepts the
basics

recently some guy here asked me if i use ai do i can code myself
(something like that) as it could have ask someone who has a car if
he can walk - its tremendously stupid ..neanderthal level

quote weird and funny people are like neanderthals as to ai
when its totally amazing

fir,

I believe you could use AI to proof-read your posts before posting them
here. Here's an example:

If so, you’re very wrong. AI is terribly shocking in a positive sense...
but it’s hard to talk about this with someone if they don’t accept the basics.

Recently some guy here asked me whether, if I use AI, I can still code
myself (something like that). That’s like asking someone who has a car whether he can walk. It’s tremendously stupid... Neanderthal level.

Quite weird and funny: people are like Neanderthals when it comes to AI,
when it’s totally amazing.
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security is total enslavement.
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Arnold Ziffel pisze:

fir <[email protected]> wrote:

if so youre ery vrong ai is terribly shocking in positive sense...
but its hard to talk on this with someone if someone not accepts the
basics

recently some guy here asked me if i use ai do i can code myself
(something like that) as it could have ask someone who has a car if
he can walk - its tremendously stupid ..neanderthal level

quote weird and funny people are like neanderthals as to ai
when its totally amazing

fir,

I believe you could use AI to proof-read your posts before posting them
here. Here's an example:

If so, you’re very wrong. AI is terribly shocking in a positive sense... but it’s hard to talk about this with someone if they don’t accept the basics.

Recently some guy here asked me whether, if I use AI, I can still code
myself (something like that). That’s like asking someone who has a car whether he can walk. It’s tremendously stupid... Neanderthal level.

Quite weird and funny: people are like Neanderthals when it comes to AI,
when it’s totally amazing.

i know i could but it would take my mental focus to much when i need to
fozus on point....


if soem want to engage in conversation he may use AI to correct my
typos..if no may just ignore it ...sometimes i see that i indeed make to
much mistypes but really i dont feel like im in position to much improve
that becouse focusing on point is much more important than slowing
myself down..im more like researcher than populist..note that messages
can be than corrected at any time needed but this time is not a time
when i focus on given merithorical/technical points
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fir pisze:

Arnold Ziffel pisze:

fir <[email protected]> wrote:

if so youre ery vrong ai is terribly shocking in positive sense...
but its hard to talk on this with someone if someone not accepts the
basics

recently some guy here asked me if i use ai do i can code myself
(something like that) as it could have ask someone who has a car if
he can walk - its tremendously stupid ..neanderthal level

quote weird and funny people are like neanderthals as to ai
when its totally amazing

fir,

I believe you could use AI to proof-read your posts before posting them
here. Here's an example:

If so, you’re very wrong. AI is terribly shocking in a positive sense... >> but it’s hard to talk about this with someone if they don’t accept the >> basics.

Recently some guy here asked me whether, if I use AI, I can still code
myself (something like that). That’s like asking someone who has a car
whether he can walk. It’s tremendously stupid... Neanderthal level.

Quite weird and funny: people are like Neanderthals when it comes to AI,
when it’s totally amazing.

i know i could but it would take my mental focus to much when i need to fozus on point....

if soem want to engage in conversation he may use AI to correct my
typos..if no may just ignore it ...sometimes i see that i indeed make to much mistypes but really i dont feel like im in position to much improve that becouse focusing on point is much more important than slowing
myself down..im more like researcher than populist..note that messages
can be than corrected at any time needed but this time is not a time
when i  focus on given merithorical/technical points

i know its 'uncommon' and people are not used to 'uncommon' things thay
want things to be common - but not all things can be common
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fir pisze:

fir pisze:

Arnold Ziffel pisze:

fir <[email protected]> wrote:

if so youre ery vrong ai is terribly shocking in positive sense...
but its hard to talk on this with someone if someone not accepts the
basics

recently some guy here asked me if i use ai do i can code myself
(something like that) as it could have ask someone who has a car if
he can walk - its tremendously stupid ..neanderthal level

quote weird and funny people are like neanderthals as to ai
when its totally amazing

fir,

I believe you could use AI to proof-read your posts before posting them
here. Here's an example:

If so, you’re very wrong. AI is terribly shocking in a positive sense... >>> but it’s hard to talk about this with someone if they don’t accept the >>> basics.

Recently some guy here asked me whether, if I use AI, I can still code
myself (something like that). That’s like asking someone who has a car >>> whether he can walk. It’s tremendously stupid... Neanderthal level.

Quite weird and funny: people are like Neanderthals when it comes to AI, >>> when it’s totally amazing.

i know i could but it would take my mental focus to much when i need
to fozus on point....


if soem want to engage in conversation he may use AI to correct my
typos..if no may just ignore it ...sometimes i see that i indeed make
to much mistypes but really i dont feel like im in position to much
improve that becouse focusing on point is much more important than
slowing myself down..im more like researcher than populist..note that
messages can be than corrected at any time needed but this time is not
a time when i  focus on given merithorical/technical points

i know its 'uncommon' and people are not used to 'uncommon' things thay
want things to be common - but not all things can be common

c in itself is not common in a way (imo)..whough not ask me to show that
as i dont see it clear..simply the focus on 'down' c is liek uncommon in
this world, its not common
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On 18/10/2026 12:05, fir wrote:

sometimes i see that i indeed make to much mistypes but really i dont
feel like im in position to much improve that becouse focusing on point
is much more important than slowing myself down

So, instead of fixing your typos you think it's better that 1000s of
people have to try to decode whatever gibberish you wrote?

That's just lazy.

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On 2026-10-18 13:22, Richard Harnden wrote:

On 18/10/2026 12:05, fir wrote:

sometimes i see that i indeed make to much mistypes but really i dont
feel like im in position to much improve that becouse focusing on
point is much more important than slowing myself down

So, instead of fixing your typos you think it's better that 1000s of
people have to try to decode whatever gibberish you wrote?

That's just lazy.

I'd rather say; that's just rude!

Janis

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Janis Papanagnou pisze:

On 2026-10-18 13:22, Richard Harnden wrote:

On 18/10/2026 12:05, fir wrote:

sometimes i see that i indeed make to much mistypes but really i dont
feel like im in position to much improve that becouse focusing on
point is much more important than slowing myself down

So, instead of fixing your typos you think it's better that 1000s of
people have to try to decode whatever gibberish you wrote?

That's just lazy.

I'd rather say; that's just rude!

Janis

you bith are terrible mendal reductionists... thats the problem - you
cannot imagine live in more elaborate world i think

and honestly some could find mental reductionism lazy and rude

imagine maybe not going into mental reduction specyfic tyrrany as good
not bad
- and this is group on c not on mental reduction - and as i said
mental reduction is even somewhat in oposition here ;c

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fir pisze:

Janis Papanagnou pisze:

On 2026-10-18 13:22, Richard Harnden wrote:

On 18/10/2026 12:05, fir wrote:

sometimes i see that i indeed make to much mistypes but really i
dont feel like im in position to much improve that becouse focusing
on point is much more important than slowing myself down

So, instead of fixing your typos you think it's better that 1000s of
people have to try to decode whatever gibberish you wrote?

That's just lazy.

I'd rather say; that's just rude!

Janis

you bith are terrible mendal reductionists... thats the problem - you
cannot imagine live in more elaborate world i think

and honestly some could find mental reductionism lazy and rude

imagine maybe not going into mental reduction specyfic tyrrany as good
not bad
 - and this is group on c not on mental reduction - and as i said
mental reduction is even somewhat in oposition here ;c

im not sure if you get that but its like someone sais quite rightfully
some things (say in given projects or code) cannot go too simple and
mentaial reductionist go "its lazy, its rude, go simple, simple simple "
- when as i said not al things may go simple

this mental reductionist generally make harm to world as often i think
people try to mentally reduce more complex situations and which is worse
- they succid in that often

in the context of c it is hovever often seen it cant be done
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fir pisze:

fir pisze:

Janis Papanagnou pisze:

On 2026-10-18 13:22, Richard Harnden wrote:

On 18/10/2026 12:05, fir wrote:

sometimes i see that i indeed make to much mistypes but really i
dont feel like im in position to much improve that becouse focusing >>>>> on point is much more important than slowing myself down

So, instead of fixing your typos you think it's better that 1000s of
people have to try to decode whatever gibberish you wrote?

That's just lazy.

I'd rather say; that's just rude!

Janis

you bith are terrible mendal reductionists... thats the problem - you
cannot imagine live in more elaborate world i think

and honestly some could find mental reductionism lazy and rude

imagine maybe not going into mental reduction specyfic tyrrany as good
not bad
  - and this is group on c not on mental reduction - and as i said
mental reduction is even somewhat in oposition here ;c

im not sure if you get that but its like someone sais quite rightfully
some things (say in given projects or code) cannot go too simple and
mentaial reductionist go "its lazy, its rude, go simple, simple simple "
- when as i said not al things may go simple

this mental reductionist generally make harm to world as often i think people try to mentally reduce more complex situations and which is worse
- they succid in that often

in the context of c it is hovever often seen it cant be done

its not only in c ofc i some time 25 years a go spend on some philosophy
group and as far as i remempber the situation in that domain was quite
same as to type - some things cant be reduced

mostly in real life (like buying.selling) people are used to reducing
things down and find this simplification as an advantage not all world
works like that some things can be simplified such way
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fir pisze:

in the context of c it is hovever often seen it cant be done

this is some advantage of science..in so called city life/street
life/media life you can go mental reduztionist levels in core science
you cant

now i got no contact with emo, but back i time emo and doctor mrmphis
would comment mental reductionist thesis as LOL! or HAH! and thats is
quite proper way

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fir pisze:

fir pisze:

in the context of c it is hovever often seen it cant be done

this is some advantage of science..in so called city life/street
life/media life you can go mental  reduztionist levels in core science
you cant

now i got no contact with emo, but back i time emo and doctor mrmphis
would comment mental reductionist thesis as LOL! or HAH! and thats is
quite proper way

well, if not proper at least reliving
(coz some could say that proper should be yet more not common,
where more not common means here probably yet more undefined ;c )




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fir pisze:

fir pisze:

fir pisze:

in the context of c it is hovever often seen it cant be done

this is some advantage of science..in so called city life/street
life/media life you can go mental  reduztionist levels in core science
you cant

now i got no contact with emo, but back i time emo and doctor mrmphis
would comment mental reductionist thesis as LOL! or HAH! and thats is
quite proper way

well, if not proper at least reliving
(coz some could say that proper should be yet more not common,
where more not common means here probably yet more undefined ;c )

(as if there is an open space for options then definitions are reductions

practically there is imo at least expected to not go in those most
simple metal reduztions imo - as its terribly stupid)

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fir <[email protected]> wrote:

i know i could but it would take my mental focus to much when i need to fozus on point....

Are you in a hurry when you post here?

You can focus on the problem, writing it the best you can, and then just
run what you wrote through the AI tool of your choice. Does it really take
so much time and effort?

There are upsides to that as well. By using proper English you'll increase
the likelihood of people responding to you.
--
Adam Smith revisited: Work creates Wealth, which is then Redistributed
in the holy name of Social Justice. That is to say, what is mine is
yours, and his, and hers, and theirs...
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Arnold Ziffel pisze:

fir <[email protected]> wrote:

i know i could but it would take my mental focus to much when i need to
fozus on point....

Are you in a hurry when you post here?

You can focus on the problem, writing it the best you can, and then just
run what you wrote through the AI tool of your choice. Does it really take
so much time and effort?

There are upsides to that as well. By using proper English you'll increase the likelihood of people responding to you.

its not about time it is about "context switching"...


overally i think people exaggerate the mistypes - i would be probably
90% same hard to understood if i would write proper english


its becouse i just write more deeper c context dependant things or
something like that is the reason some text are harder to understand

still im like 100x easier to understod here when i write some thoughts
on c compered to say hegel (very famous for bein totally not to
understand though quite famous)


i not compare myself to hegel ;c just im aware of fact that some text
are herder to iunderstood by its nature - and what i say abould mental reduction is very true: people should more try to fit to less usual
situations instead simplify it to common very low denominator

if some insist that all go simple its hgettin also boring - so maybe do
not come to thsi source of boredom (mental reduction) too much ;c ?

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fir pisze:

Arnold Ziffel pisze:

fir <[email protected]> wrote:

i know i could but it would take my mental focus to much when i need to
fozus on point....

Are you in a hurry when you post here?

You can focus on the problem, writing it the best you can, and then just
run what you wrote through the AI tool of your choice. Does it really
take
so much time and effort?

There are upsides to that as well. By using proper English you'll
increase
the likelihood of people responding to you.

its not about time it is about "context switching"...

overally i think people exaggerate the mistypes - i would be probably
90% same hard to understood if i would write proper english

its becouse i just write more deeper c context dependant things or
something like that is the reason some text are harder to understand

still im like 100x easier to understod here when i write some thoughts
on c  compered to say hegel (very famous for bein totally not to
understand though quite famous)

i not compare myself to hegel ;c just im aware of fact that some text
are herder to iunderstood by its nature - and what i say abould mental reduction is very true: people should more try to fit to less usual situations instead simplify it to common very low denominator

if some insist that all go simple its hgettin also boring - so maybe do
not come to thsi source of boredom (mental reduction) too much ;c ?

overally if some would insist with this 'reductionist' attempts it will
kill some place by implied boredeom so maybe just dont


(im presently not much focused on c but after some rest i will return
to post some topics again)
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fir pisze:

Arnold Ziffel pisze:

fir <[email protected]> wrote:

i know i could but it would take my mental focus to much when i need to
fozus on point....

Are you in a hurry when you post here?

You can focus on the problem, writing it the best you can, and then just
run what you wrote through the AI tool of your choice. Does it really
take
so much time and effort?

There are upsides to that as well. By using proper English you'll
increase
the likelihood of people responding to you.

its not about time it is about "context switching"...

overally human brain works it way - especially when youre in some deeper thinking state

for example i may add i noticed quite recently then when i code
sometimes its like i got all my code 'actions' in 'cache' (barian cache
memory) and coding is going fast end seamless

different time youre like your brain cache is empty and all you get is
like constant cache misses and coding goes like snail


thats the example

(when i write something i just cant watch the letters (except minimum)
becouse it unfocuses me..and is mostly not worth it..i can somewhat
adjust but there is some border line at to which point its worth it and
where its not

overally you exaggerate as i said its kinda delusio n that wilh mistypes removed it all so clean to read - imo its not..i for example when read messages here quite a number not quite understood - only look if its
something there i can adhere to....not to stop very much and read into
it to fully understood what someone has on mind - its normal situation

so i suggest - scan some post what you understand and find that you may
answer to it with some sense answer it if no go on, find something you
can andwer..what can i say

there are a lot of interesting topics ahead, but now as im said im
overelly a bit weary and not quite focused on c..but i will be back
maybe soon maybe later ;c
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fir pisze:

there are a lot of interesting topics ahead, but now as im said im
overelly a bit weary and not quite focused on c..but i will be back
maybe soon maybe later ;c

i overally planed to code maybe to end of year (and if i code i
generally open this group and post some things here) but i get slower
feel im bit weary so i dont know as to plans yet ;c

overally i could post on some pices of my 3d rasterizer and toying on
some 3d shoter mechanics in 3d space - but as many here says this is a
group on c and this may be not so much strictly related.. so you see
keeping to rules makes potential boredom but it also decreases chaos so
i m about some compromise here ;c

(the fact is also my post on this 3d game shooter would not be on topic really(at least partially, and they would also not be answered as not
many eople write / toy with 3d shooters) ;c

so it is like it is
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On 9/25/2026 6:39 PM, fir wrote:

do you used ai to generate codes in c? some observations or
thoughts maybe?

[...]

Are you still working on your 3d engine? If so, try to recreate the
following simple scene:

https://youtu.be/n13GHyYEfLA?list=RDn13GHyYEfLA

You need to make your own music, fractals, and use a model in the
center. Heck this is not even using my PBR!

So, either learn it yourself, our well, do you have to pay to use the
AI? What happens when you run out of tokens?

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[email protected]d (Arnold Ziffel) writes:

fir <[email protected]> wrote:

i know i could but it would take my mental focus to much when i need to
fozus on point....

Are you in a hurry when you post here?

You can focus on the problem, writing it the best you can, and then just
run what you wrote through the AI tool of your choice. Does it really take so much time and effort?

There are upsides to that as well. By using proper English you'll increase the likelihood of people responding to you.

fir has been writing this way for a very long time, at least 14 years.
If multiple attempts to persuade him to make an effort to write more
clearly have failed, one more try isn't likely to do any better.

(My personal solution is a killfile.)
--
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void Void(void) { Void(); } /* The recursive call of the void */
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Chris M. Thomasson pisze:

On 9/25/2026 6:39 PM, fir wrote:

do you used ai to generate codes in c? some observations or
thoughts maybe?

[...]

Are you still working on your 3d engine? If so, try to recreate the following simple scene:

https://youtu.be/n13GHyYEfLA?list=RDn13GHyYEfLA

You need to make your own music, fractals, and use a model in the
center. Heck this is not even using my PBR!

So, either learn it yourself, our well, do you have to pay to use the
AI? What happens when you run out of tokens?

you seem to know not much on ai programming yet you say strong bullshit
on it...


no i dont pay any tokens use a free chat gpt it makes a termendous work
quite free like usinggoogle back then

obviously not all things go so easy even with ai..i noted there are some
work that go really wel and fast but there are sme swamp places when
work goes slow but maybe im weary..or maybe i use it slower weay

coz in ai you may give it to produce larger pices of code or goin thru
smaller ones..i often stay smaller ones and dont even test if it would
run in bigger ones

ai also has like his/her own habits - like it likes breaks the lines on
short (i dont like it coz after you wrote a code then what wories you is
often traversing up and down in files and i dont liek longer distances
- she forgots it

other kind of 'habit' is she not quite optimises code (untill said so)
and she also dont quite splits code on smaller functions as i would do
(until said so)

aoverally besides its absolutely great


(the paid version may be much better maybe but im quite shocked by free one..im also shocked many people ssem not know it as much as it could)


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Keith Thompson pisze:

[email protected]d (Arnold Ziffel) writes:

fir <[email protected]> wrote:

i know i could but it would take my mental focus to much when i need to
fozus on point....

Are you in a hurry when you post here?

You can focus on the problem, writing it the best you can, and then just
run what you wrote through the AI tool of your choice. Does it really take >> so much time and effort?

There are upsides to that as well. By using proper English you'll increase >> the likelihood of people responding to you.

fir has been writing this way for a very long time, at least 14 years.
If multiple attempts to persuade him to make an effort to write more
clearly have failed, one more try isn't likely to do any better.

(My personal solution is a killfile.)

typical - or maybe worse than typical - attitude of mental reductionist..


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fir pisze:

[...]

Are you still working on your 3d engine?

i wouldnt say im workin on 3d engine - i usually has no focus
and energy to work on more serious projects (if i had
i would need to finish furia compiler)..but i sometimes toy
with some smaller pices (to work days or at most few weaks with it)
to draw some conclusions with it

3 engine btw i wouldnt see so much serious as 3d engine is like one function... but more interesting is like testing some spaceship flying
routines i 3d space (you know some algorithms form this bot pilots,
shoting , dodgin obstacles..i would like to study it a bit though im
presently quite weary/ wear off energy)

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fir pisze:

Keith Thompson pisze:

[email protected]d (Arnold Ziffel) writes:

fir <[email protected]> wrote:

i know i could but it would take my mental focus to much when i need to >>>> fozus on point....

Are you in a hurry when you post here?

You can focus on the problem, writing it the best you can, and then just >>> run what you wrote through the AI tool of your choice. Does it really
take
so much time and effort?

There are upsides to that as well. By using proper English you'll
increase
the likelihood of people responding to you.

fir has been writing this way for a very long time, at least 14 years.
If multiple attempts to persuade him to make an effort to write more
clearly have failed, one more try isn't likely to do any better.

(My personal solution is a killfile.)

typical - or maybe worse than typical - attitude of mental reductionist..

ask how manny attempts to pursuade his ways K.T. took ? there also was
some number of it.. ;c
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fir pisze:

fir pisze:

[...]

Are you still working on your 3d engine?

i wouldnt say im workin on 3d engine - i usually has no focus
and energy to work on more serious projects (if i had
i would need to finish furia compiler)..but i sometimes toy
with some smaller pices (to work days or at most few weaks with it)
to draw some conclusions with it

3 engine btw i wouldnt see so much serious as 3d engine is like one function... but more interesting is like testing some spaceship flying routines i 3d space (you know some algorithms form this bot pilots,
shoting , dodgin obstacles..i would like to study it a bit though im presently quite weary/ wear off energy)

right now i got simple framework with flying ships and simple shoting by bullets and missiles


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vmkk7S9z6c8


as thise missiles has a limit velocity 30 m/s amd limits on angular
velocity and acceleration they may not shoot a target as those ships may
move faster (as missiles have also life time like 30 seconds or so
and then vanish)

some may observe as those missiles chase the ships etc


the problem is to add more interesting and "well tweaked" bahaviours
to those ships missiles and things and to find if there could be some
"juicy" uotcome form that making those simple space fights pleasurable
maybe cleaver and skill dependat

its not necessary an easy thing bcouse there is maybe a lot of tweaking involved and most things some wrote (maybe) is noy "juicy" the goal is
to find "juicy"


(i treat is as one of potential exercises in coding..nothing special but potentially interesting)
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On 10/19/2026 4:43 PM, fir wrote:

Chris M. Thomasson pisze:

On 9/25/2026 6:39 PM, fir wrote:

do you used ai to generate codes in c? some observations or
thoughts maybe?

[...]

Are you still working on your 3d engine? If so, try to recreate the
following simple scene:

https://youtu.be/n13GHyYEfLA?list=RDn13GHyYEfLA

You need to make your own music, fractals, and use a model in the
center. Heck this is not even using my PBR!

So, either learn it yourself, our well, do you have to pay to use the
AI? What happens when you run out of tokens?

you seem to know not much on ai programming yet you say strong bullshit
on it...

Ever run out of the free chat and say, oh bummer. I cannot do anything
else? That is the trap. You should be able to code even if the internet
is down, or all AI suddenly stopped working for you. Right?

no i dont pay any tokens use a free chat gpt it makes a termendous work quite free like usinggoogle back then

obviously not all things go so easy even with ai..i noted there are some work that go really wel and fast but there are sme swamp places when
work goes slow but maybe im weary..or maybe i use it slower weay

coz in ai you may give it to produce larger pices of code or goin thru smaller ones..i often stay smaller ones and dont even test if it would
run in bigger ones

ai also has like his/her own habits - like it likes breaks the lines on short (i dont like it coz after you wrote a code then what wories you is often traversing up and down in files and i dont liek longer distances
- she forgots it

other kind of 'habit' is she not quite optimises code (untill said so)
and she also dont quite splits code on smaller functions as i would do (until said so)

aoverally besides its absolutely great

(the paid version may be much better maybe but im quite shocked by free one..im also shocked many people ssem not know it as much as it could)

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On 10/19/2026 5:35 PM, fir wrote:

fir pisze:

fir pisze:

[...]

Are you still working on your 3d engine?

i wouldnt say im workin on 3d engine - i usually has no focus
and energy to work on more serious projects (if i had
i would need to finish furia compiler)..but i sometimes toy
with some smaller pices (to work days or at most few weaks with it)
to draw some conclusions with it

3 engine btw i wouldnt see so much serious as 3d engine is like one
function... but more interesting is like testing some spaceship flying
routines i 3d space (you know some algorithms form this bot pilots,
shoting , dodgin obstacles..i would like to study it a bit though im
presently quite weary/ wear off energy)

right now i got simple framework with flying ships and simple shoting by bullets and missiles

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vmkk7S9z6c8

as thise missiles has a limit velocity 30 m/s amd limits on angular
velocity and acceleration they may not shoot a target as those ships may move faster  (as missiles have also life time like 30 seconds or so
and then vanish)

some may observe as those missiles chase the ships etc

Fwiw, check this shit out. The spider likes the red sphere... ;^D

Now actually, the whole thing is using one of my vector fields:

https://youtu.be/hlHmOKvQVT4

the problem is to add more interesting and "well tweaked" bahaviours
to those ships missiles and things and to find if there could be some
"juicy" uotcome form that making those simple space fights pleasurable
maybe cleaver and skill dependat

its not necessary an easy thing bcouse there is maybe a lot of tweaking involved and most things some wrote (maybe) is noy "juicy" the goal is
to find "juicy"

(i treat is as one of potential exercises in coding..nothing special but potentially interesting)

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Chris M. Thomasson pisze:

On 10/19/2026 4:43 PM, fir wrote:

Chris M. Thomasson pisze:

On 9/25/2026 6:39 PM, fir wrote:

do you used ai to generate codes in c? some observations or
thoughts maybe?

[...]

Are you still working on your 3d engine? If so, try to recreate the
following simple scene:

https://youtu.be/n13GHyYEfLA?list=RDn13GHyYEfLA

You need to make your own music, fractals, and use a model in the
center. Heck this is not even using my PBR!

So, either learn it yourself, our well, do you have to pay to use the
AI? What happens when you run out of tokens?

you seem to know not much on ai programming yet you say strong
bullshit on it...

Ever run out of the free chat and say, oh bummer. I cannot do anything
else? That is the trap. You should be able to code even if the internet
is down, or all AI suddenly stopped working for you. Right?

i already told you youre like peasnt talking dont drive this
cars/bikes/trains you will forget how to walk


cut this tremendous stupidity ..usenet is not to propagate stupidity

no i dont pay any tokens use a free chat gpt it makes a termendous
work quite free like usinggoogle back then

obviously not all things go so easy even with ai..i noted there are
some work that go really wel and fast but there are sme swamp places when
work goes slow but maybe im weary..or maybe i use it slower weay

coz in ai you may give it to produce larger pices of code or goin thru
smaller ones..i often stay smaller ones and dont even test if it would
run in bigger ones

ai also has like his/her own habits - like it likes breaks the lines
on short (i dont like it coz after you wrote a code then what wories
you is often traversing up and down in files and i dont liek longer
distances
- she forgots it

other kind of 'habit' is she not quite optimises code (untill said so)
and she also dont quite splits code on smaller functions as i would do
(until said so)

aoverally besides its absolutely great


(the paid version may be much better maybe but im quite shocked by
free one..im also shocked many people ssem not know it as much as it
could)

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Chris M. Thomasson pisze:

On 9/25/2026 6:39 PM, fir wrote:

do you used ai to generate codes in c? some observations or
thoughts maybe?

[...]

Are you still working on your 3d engine? If so, try to recreate the following simple scene:

https://youtu.be/n13GHyYEfLA?list=RDn13GHyYEfLA

its ok+, music is good and this backroud is good

kow its done? geometry of bitmaps?

with ai i coud learn ogl/dx/vulcan quite fast i guess but
i more lie rasterization as by now..more fun to me than dwelling in
complex libraries

You need to make your own music, fractals, and use a model in the
center. Heck this is not even using my PBR!

So, either learn it yourself, our well, do you have to pay to use the
AI? What happens when you run out of tokens?

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fir pisze:

fir pisze:

fir pisze:

[...]

Are you still working on your 3d engine?

i wouldnt say im workin on 3d engine - i usually has no focus
and energy to work on more serious projects (if i had
i would need to finish furia compiler)..but i sometimes toy
with some smaller pices (to work days or at most few weaks with it)
to draw some conclusions with it

3 engine btw i wouldnt see so much serious as 3d engine is like one
function... but more interesting is like testing some spaceship flying
routines i 3d space (you know some algorithms form this bot pilots,
shoting , dodgin obstacles..i would like to study it a bit though im
presently quite weary/ wear off energy)

right now i got simple framework with flying ships and simple shoting by bullets and missiles

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vmkk7S9z6c8

as thise missiles has a limit velocity 30 m/s amd limits on angular
velocity and acceleration they may not shoot a target as those ships may move faster  (as missiles have also life time like 30 seconds or so
and then vanish)

some may observe as those missiles chase the ships etc

the problem is to add more interesting and "well tweaked" bahaviours
to those ships missiles and things and to find if there could be some
"juicy" uotcome form that making those simple space fights pleasurable
maybe cleaver and skill dependat

its not necessary an easy thing bcouse there is maybe a lot of tweaking involved and most things some wrote (maybe) is noy "juicy" the goal is
to find "juicy"

(i treat is as one of potential exercises in coding..nothing special but potentially interesting)

overally writig such pices i find hard - it s maybe becouse its not liek
you got well defined goal and you just need to code it

here the technical aspect of coding those maneuvres is not so hard
(not so hard to do it at least not very preciselly) but the goal
(og getting "jiucy" is not clear defined and that makes it hard it aso
ttrigers somewha "codin neurosis" where you are afraid of coding it
(possibly becouse its not defined goal so absolute no guarantee i can
just write it)..its makes it hard imo
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fir pisze:

fir pisze:

fir pisze:

fir pisze:

[...]

Are you still working on your 3d engine?

i wouldnt say im workin on 3d engine - i usually has no focus
and energy to work on more serious projects (if i had
i would need to finish furia compiler)..but i sometimes toy
with some smaller pices (to work days or at most few weaks with it)
to draw some conclusions with it

3 engine btw i wouldnt see so much serious as 3d engine is like one
function... but more interesting is like testing some spaceship flying
routines i 3d space (you know some algorithms form this bot pilots,
shoting , dodgin obstacles..i would like to study it a bit though im
presently quite weary/ wear off energy)

right now i got simple framework with flying ships and simple shoting by
bullets and missiles


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vmkk7S9z6c8


as thise missiles has a limit velocity 30 m/s amd limits on angular
velocity and acceleration they may not shoot a target as those ships
may move faster  (as missiles have also life time like 30 seconds or so
and then vanish)

some may observe as those missiles chase the ships etc


the problem is to add more interesting and "well tweaked" bahaviours
to those ships missiles and things and to find if there could be some
"juicy" uotcome form that making those simple space fights pleasurable
maybe cleaver and skill dependat

its not necessary an easy thing bcouse there is maybe a lot of
tweaking involved and most things some wrote (maybe) is noy "juicy"
the goal is to find "juicy"


(i treat is as one of potential exercises in coding..nothing special
but potentially interesting)

overally writig such pices i find hard - it s maybe becouse its not liek
you got well defined goal and you just need to code it

here the technical aspect of coding those maneuvres is not so hard
(not so hard to do it at least not very preciselly) but the goal
(og getting "jiucy" is not clear defined and that makes it hard it aso ttrigers somewha "codin neurosis" where you are afraid of coding it (possibly becouse its not defined goal so absolute no guarantee i can
just write it)..its makes it hard imo

hovever i got some observations how to go forward in such cases (and
maybe not only)

- do things carefully (thus sometimess slow)

- increase cleannes

it things become carefull and clean then its easier becouse smal changes become meaningfull and youre more focused to notice things

if i notice things then i can slowly go on - but i still probablu
couldnt say such things are easy to code ;c

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On 2026-10-19, Keith Thompson <[email protected]> wrote:

[email protected]d (Arnold Ziffel) writes:

fir <[email protected]> wrote:

i know i could but it would take my mental focus to much when i need to >>> fozus on point....

Are you in a hurry when you post here?

You can focus on the problem, writing it the best you can, and then just
run what you wrote through the AI tool of your choice. Does it really take >> so much time and effort?

There are upsides to that as well. By using proper English you'll increase >> the likelihood of people responding to you.

fir has been writing this way for a very long time, at least 14 years.
If multiple attempts to persuade him to make an effort to write more
clearly have failed, one more try isn't likely to do any better.

(My personal solution is a killfile.)

+1
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Jim Jackson pisze:

On 2026-10-19, Keith Thompson <[email protected]> wrote:

[email protected]d (Arnold Ziffel) writes:

fir <[email protected]> wrote:

i know i could but it would take my mental focus to much when i need to >>>> fozus on point....

Are you in a hurry when you post here?

You can focus on the problem, writing it the best you can, and then just >>> run what you wrote through the AI tool of your choice. Does it really take >>> so much time and effort?

There are upsides to that as well. By using proper English you'll increase >>> the likelihood of people responding to you.

fir has been writing this way for a very long time, at least 14 years.
If multiple attempts to persuade him to make an effort to write more
clearly have failed, one more try isn't likely to do any better.

(My personal solution is a killfile.)

+1

mental reductionists count their points?


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On 10/20/2026 5:04 AM, fir wrote:

Chris M. Thomasson pisze:

On 9/25/2026 6:39 PM, fir wrote:

do you used ai to generate codes in c? some observations or
thoughts maybe?

[...]

Are you still working on your 3d engine? If so, try to recreate the
following simple scene:

https://youtu.be/n13GHyYEfLA?list=RDn13GHyYEfLA

its ok+, music is good and this backroud is good

Thanks! I made the music myself playing with old MIDI code of mine. I
forgot the beats per minute here. Its pretty fast. 120–130 BPM ish...

kow its done? geometry of bitmaps?

Well, its actually quite simple in a sense. A model in pose at the
center of the scene. A wire frame unit cube. And a larger cube around it running one of my special fragment shaders. Also, it uses a background
from an older fractal of mine. My frag shader just mutates it in real time.

Fwiw, I think it used one of my Heavenly Visions renders for the main background. Basically, a neat way to plot IFS's using Julia sets.

Read all:

https://paulbourke.net/fractals/multijulia

with ai i coud learn ogl/dx/vulcan quite fast i guess but
i more lie rasterization as by now..more fun to me than dwelling in
complex libraries

Nobody needs to buy books anymore... ;^)

Well, this scene was made in modern opengl. I don't think I was using
PBR lighting for it.


[...]

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Keith Thompson <[email protected]> wrote:

(My personal solution is a killfile.)

You have a valid point. Yet, using a killfile isn't a solution if people
keep replying to him (and I probably just became a part of the problem).
--
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the page number.
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Arnold Ziffel pisze:

Keith Thompson <[email protected]> wrote:

(My personal solution is a killfile.)

You have a valid point. Yet, using a killfile isn't a solution if people
keep replying to him (and I probably just became a part of the problem).

terrible problem for mental reductionist...

note i once mentioned that opinion may vary who is a troll KT (imposing
his rude mentally reduced views) or me(imposing more oryginal one)
but honestly..the answer is maybe more clear ;c

(note i mentioned this 'relativity' becouse some dose of relativity is
worth an esteem..but it is if we speak more theoretical in practice
the mental reductions go quite bad and no fun, so im only partial
relativisc in fact here (my aopinions may yet change here also))

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fir pisze:

Arnold Ziffel pisze:

Keith Thompson <[email protected]> wrote:

(My personal solution is a killfile.)

You have a valid point. Yet, using a killfile isn't a solution if people
keep replying to him (and I probably just became a part of the problem).

terrible problem for mental reductionist...

note i once mentioned that opinion may vary who is a troll KT (imposing
his rude mentally reduced views) or me(imposing more oryginal one)
but honestly..the answer is maybe more clear ;c

(note i mentioned this 'relativity' becouse some dose of relativity is
worth an esteem..but it is if we speak more theoretical in practice
the mental reductions go quite bad and no fun, so im only partial
relativisc in fact here (my aopinions may yet change here also))

so how do you feel today keith Thompson pack of trolls..more low mind
lame bulshit to produce on clc today?

(sorry i know i shouldnt laugh of you, youre too lame)
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On 2026-10-22, Arnold Ziffel <[email protected]d> wrote:

Keith Thompson <[email protected]> wrote:

(My personal solution is a killfile.)

You have a valid point. Yet, using a killfile isn't a solution if people keep replying to him (and I probably just became a part of the problem).

There was supposed to be a solution for that it but it failed to deploy:
the grouplens protocol.

Under grouplens protocol, the scores you assign to articles are shared
with other users, so you can effectively express the concept of "don't
show me what my friend Bob, also a regular of the newsgroup, doesn't
want to see, but with a weight of 0.75 assigned to Bob's scores" ...
or something like that; /do/ quote me with > > > but don't quote me. :)

It may not be a good idea anyway because it encourages echo chambers.
It seems like the protocol could allow a newsgroup to be fragmented
into multiple factions who each only read their own posts.
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Kaz Kylheku <[email protected]> wrote:

Under grouplens protocol, the scores you assign to articles are shared
with other users, so you can effectively express the concept of "don't
show me what my friend Bob, also a regular of the newsgroup, doesn't
want to see, but with a weight of 0.75 assigned to Bob's scores" ...

Is it really worth it? The number of posters isn't that high, we can all decide ourselves who we want to read. The problem is different here.
--
Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic.
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Arnold Ziffel wrote:

Kaz Kylheku <[email protected]> wrote:

Under grouplens protocol, the scores you assign to articles are shared
with other users, so you can effectively express the concept of "don't
show me what my friend Bob, also a regular of the newsgroup, doesn't
want to see, but with a weight of 0.75 assigned to Bob's scores" ...

Is it really worth it? The number of posters isn't that high, we can all decide ourselves who we want to read. The problem is different here.

True. I've never seen something quite like Keith Thompson.
--
Can you strip away so we may start again?
"There’s a switch and they don't
seem authentic or themselves. It
feels like I’m an unnecessary
body and it’s a waste of time to
even be there." -- Grim, playful Blaine.
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