On 03 Nov 2025 00:38:56 GMT, Stepin Fetchit wrote:
Brock McNuggets <[email protected]> wrote in
news:69065f01$2$21$[email protected]:
On Nov 1, 2025 at 10:41:32 AM MST, "Stepin Fetchit" wrote
Second: Alignment with white supremacist rhetoric. From an old post, >>>>> based on those links:
--------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>> - * "Open borders" and "flooding the country" -- classic Great
Replacement rhetoric claiming elites import non-white migrants to
weaken America.
https://www.adl.org/resources/backgrounder/great-replacement-theory
But effectively open borders with migrants, mostly unchecked and
illegal, flooding the country is what happened under the previous
administration. Remember the caravans of migrants heading to the U.S?
Remember these people taking shelter under bridges and overpasses?
<https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/nearly-two-thirds-of-migrants-enter >>>> ed-illegally-under-biden/ar-AA1AR9iC>
All of that ended when the current administration tightened up border
security. Something the previous administration said could not be
done.
<https://time.com/7307367/negative-net-migration-trump-deportations/>
Assuming POTHEAD actually said what you claim she did, it still does
not make her a white supremicist because regarding the facts, her
statement is true. One can argue the numbers, however the results are
incontrovertible and confirmed by many sources.
Describing the border as "mostly unchecked" is wrong. U.S. Customs and
Border Protection has consistently reported millions of encounters per
year, meaning most migrants were detained or processed, not ignored:
https://www.cbp.gov/newsroom/stats/southwest-land-border-encounters
Did you look at the links I posted?
Encounters along with processing is effectively caught and released
unvetted with a court date that most have no intention of showing up at.
Read the script during the encounter and your in.
It also doesn't account for the number of got-aways.
Joe Biden resumed the catch and release program which Trump ended during
his first term.
<https://oversight.house.gov/release/hearing-wrap-up-biden-
administrations-catch-and-release-operation-has-inflamed-the-raging-
crisis-at-the-southern-border%ef%bf%bc/>
The numbers speak for themselves. And many sources agree that they are
on the low side.
Have you witnessed cities overrun with migrants to the point that there
is no way they can house them?
Schools, hospitals overloaded by this.
And a cost that is in most cases astronomical and will ultimately be
paid by the taxpayers.
Has this happened under any other administration?
Clinton?
Obama?
Trump's fist term?
This mass migration is due solely to Biden's administration and him
literally inviting immigrants, illegal immigrants, into the country.
The real question is why?
Likewise, the "caravans" and temporary camps under bridges were realThat is false equivalence.
events, but they occurred under multiple administrations, not only one.
It nothing like the massive crowds of migrants under the Joe Biden
administration.
The claim that "all of that ended" after the current administration
tightened security is also false. Border crossings remain historically
high, despite new restrictions and deportation programs. Claims of
"negative net migration" under Trump are currently unverified,
according to Time:
https://time.com/7307367/negative-net-migration-trump-deportations/
Cherry picking from the article while ignoring the other points coupled
with a classic whataboutism by dragging in the topic of border crossings
remaining historically high in order to justify your claims, which are
false.
<https://www.cbsnews.com/news/illegal-crossings-immigration-us-mexico-
southern-border-lowest-level-1970-trump-dhs/>
Watch the media shows and look for yourself. Do you see anything like
what was happening under Biden?
And the media tends to be liberal so if nothing had changed under Trump
they would be reporting it.
In short, both administrations have faced record migration challenges,
and while policy approaches differ, there is no evidence of an "open
border" nor that migration "ended."
Yet another false equivalence.
While traditionally both sides have had problems, the scale and
frequency are nowhere near the same.
* Dehumanizing immigrants -- calling them "criminals," "terrorists," >>>>> "mental patients" mirrors far-right propaganda that paints migrants
as threats rather than people.
https://www.splcenter.org/fighting-hate/extremist-files/group/vdare
And many of them are criminals and terrorists.
Same could be said of citizens. Painting immigrants as being more
violent is false. Pothead uses white supremacist language to dehumanize
them.
A whataboutism argument. I didn't say anything about immigrants being
more violent nor did I drag citizens into the statement.
A criminal is a criminal and the second they enter the country
illegally,
they have broken the law.
Pointing that out those illegals who have been caught and have extensive
criminal records, which is in the news virtually every day, is not
dehumanizing nor is it white supremacist language.
Of course they are humans as well. So was Charles Manson, Oswald and
many others but they were also criminals.
<https://www.cbp.gov/newsroom/stats/cbp-enforcement-statistics/crimina >>>> l-alien-statistics> You are speaking for POTHEAD here and assuming she >>>> is listening to the far-right propaganda as an unchecked source of
information. The facts support what she is saying.
<https://dispatchnews.com/news/2024/dec/03/northern-border-terrorist-r >>>> elated-arrests-soar/>
<https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/feds-prevent-6-525-known-suspected- >>>> terrorists-from-entering-us/ar-AA1PmCbk>
NO facts support dehumanizing. Ever.
Once again:
Pointing that out those illegals who have been caught and have extensive
criminal records, which is in the news virtually every day, is not
dehumanizing nor is it white supremacist language.
* "Lazy grifters" vs. "hard-working taxpayers" -- Reagan-era dog
whistle that racializes poverty and casts minorities as parasites.
https://www.brookings.edu/articles/americas-welfare-myths/
That's a bit of a stretch.
Those are exact phrases she used.
You have split the paragraph I wrote in order to take my statement out
of context.
The section below belongs in context with the statement" that is a bit
of a stretch, meaning your dog whistle, white supremacist claims against
POTHEAD.
I won't speak for POTHEAD or you for that matter, but to me it seems
likely that most people realize that immigrants are for the most part
a necessity and an asset to the U.S.
Fair.
In fact the country was founded and built by immigrants. Prior to the
previous administration immigration was for the most part controlled
and legal although the system is a disaster and is still a disaster
that needs to be completely redone.
This is not at all true. Even under Trump's first term there were
significant issues:
https://www.cbp.gov/newsroom/stats/southwest-land-border-encounters
Another false equivalence.
<https://www.cbsnews.com/news/illegal-crossings-immigration-us-mexico-
southern-border-lowest-level-1970-trump-dhs/>
And now we have a grossly overfunded ICE which is an even BIGGER issue.
Another whataboutism.
Nothing is perfect however the topic here isn't ICE, it's about your
accusations claiming POTHEAD is a white supremacist which so far you
have not come close to achieving.
Add to that, Trump and his crew push insane white geniside lies to
promote racist policies where people are admitted or kicked out (even
if legally here) based largely on color of skin.
With the vast number of illegal immigrants here in the U.S mistakes will
be made.
Do you have specific examples of legal citizens deported?
What you are missing is that this is not the same type of immigration
the U.S. has had in the past.
We now face cartels involved in the migrations. These are not friendly >>>> people just looking to make some money transporting people. They
abuse, rape women and children, hang the victim's panties in trees as
trophies and so forth.
As for hardworking U.S. taxpayers, many of them are migrants
themselves and they are struggling to pay their bills, feed their
family, pay for insurance costs, housing and so forth. So why should
someone who is entering the country illegally recieve so many free
benefits from the government?
Immigrants are not eligible for SNAP and other programs. But even if
they were, so what? We as a nation focus on the pennies that go to
helping those in need as we ignore the dollars that go to helping the
rich.
Another whataboutism.
We are discussing illegal immigrants and your claims against POTHEAD
being a white supremacist.
As for SNAP, you are incorrect.
<https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2025/10/benefits-shutdown-good-time-
reassess-54-federal-benefit/>
You need to read the hotlinks to see the cites.
The minority that is the problem is not immigrants, nor transgender
folks, nor blacks, nor Jews, or Muslims. The minority that is
destroying this country are the ultra-wealthy. THAT should be our
focus. Not people in need.
Another whataboutism. The topic isn't the wealthy vs the poor.
We are discussing illegal immigrants and your claims against POTHEAD
being a white supremacist.
Who is opposing assistance to people in need?
There are plenty of legal citizens in need and massive amounts of money
are being spent on illegals.
That is wrong.
Do you think the mom and pop fruit and vegetable store owners who are
most likely migrants themselves appreciate seeing the money being
spent on illegals?
What money? ER visits? I have no issue with that.
Insurance costs, medical costs, cellphone costs, housing costs etc.
Much of which is given to illegal migrants.
Again, nothing POTHEAD is saying shows her as being a white
supremacist.
She pushes white supremacist rhetoric. Repeatedly.
You have not offered anything that confirms your claims against POTHEAD.
Vicious claims I might add.
At this point I am disconnecting from this thread because I have more
than made my point and you have not even come close to making yours.
Bravo!
Applause!
Your reply to the snit Brock McNuggets troll is a masterclass in how to
shut the snit troll down cold.
You are wise to disengage from this conversation because the snit troll
will continue to use his well known trolling methods to keep you engaged
in what will surely deteriorate into an endless meta thread which is what snit Brock McNuggets goal is.
Others have posted the links to snit's various behaviors and his mental illness so there is no need to waste space here.
I will leave you with a suggestion and that is to shun the snit troll and not reply directly to him as many in ACW are already doing. The idea is to cut off his oxygen supply and not encourage his endless trolling which by the way you may not realize but snit has been trolling for at least 15
years so this is not a new person here.
This description of snit is one of the best descriptions of the outcome of engaging directly with snit troll.
I'm certain that you will recognize the tactics listed below.
http://cosmicpenguin.com/snitlist.html
36- George Graves: "Jason. You have started an argument with
the Snit (AKA Michael Glasser), this should not be done. He
will drive you crazy with his twisted logic, his deep-rooted
need to be ALWAYS right at any cost. He will move goalposts,
set up strawmen, and bore you into submission with his endless
pedanticism. The only way to engage him is to hit and run. NEVER
engage him, it's a futile, empty procedure that will only anger
you and feed him. Take my advice and STAY AWAY!" 27 Oct 2004
On 2025-11-03, Charlie Glock <[email protected]> wrote:
On 03 Nov 2025 00:38:56 GMT, Stepin Fetchit wrote:
Brock McNuggets <[email protected]> wrote in
news:69065f01$2$21$[email protected]:
On Nov 1, 2025 at 10:41:32 AM MST, "Stepin Fetchit" wrote
Second: Alignment with white supremacist rhetoric. From an old post, >>>>>> based on those links:But effectively open borders with migrants, mostly unchecked and
--------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>> - * "Open borders" and "flooding the country" -- classic Great
Replacement rhetoric claiming elites import non-white migrants to
weaken America.
https://www.adl.org/resources/backgrounder/great-replacement-theory >>>>>
illegal, flooding the country is what happened under the previous
administration. Remember the caravans of migrants heading to the U.S? >>>>> Remember these people taking shelter under bridges and overpasses?
<https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/nearly-two-thirds-of-migrants-entered-illegally-under-biden/ar-AA1AR9iC>
All of that ended when the current administration tightened up border >>>>> security. Something the previous administration said could not be
done.
<https://time.com/7307367/negative-net-migration-trump-deportations/> >>>>>
Assuming POTHEAD actually said what you claim she did, it still does >>>>> not make her a white supremicist because regarding the facts, her
statement is true. One can argue the numbers, however the results are >>>>> incontrovertible and confirmed by many sources.
Describing the border as "mostly unchecked" is wrong. U.S. Customs and >>>> Border Protection has consistently reported millions of encounters per >>>> year, meaning most migrants were detained or processed, not ignored:
https://www.cbp.gov/newsroom/stats/southwest-land-border-encounters
Did you look at the links I posted?
Encounters along with processing is effectively caught and released
unvetted with a court date that most have no intention of showing up at. >>> Read the script during the encounter and your in.
It also doesn't account for the number of got-aways.
Joe Biden resumed the catch and release program which Trump ended during >>> his first term.
<https://oversight.house.gov/release/hearing-wrap-up-biden->
administrations-catch-and-release-operation-has-inflamed-the-raging-
crisis-at-the-southern-border%ef%bf%bc/>
The numbers speak for themselves. And many sources agree that they are
on the low side.
Have you witnessed cities overrun with migrants to the point that there
is no way they can house them?
Schools, hospitals overloaded by this.
And a cost that is in most cases astronomical and will ultimately be
paid by the taxpayers.
Has this happened under any other administration?
Clinton?
Obama?
Trump's fist term?
This mass migration is due solely to Biden's administration and him
literally inviting immigrants, illegal immigrants, into the country.
The real question is why?
Likewise, the "caravans" and temporary camps under bridges were realIt nothing like the massive crowds of migrants under the Joe Biden
events, but they occurred under multiple administrations, not only one. >>> That is false equivalence.
administration.
The claim that "all of that ended" after the current administration
tightened security is also false. Border crossings remain historically >>>> high, despite new restrictions and deportation programs. Claims of
"negative net migration" under Trump are currently unverified,
according to Time:
https://time.com/7307367/negative-net-migration-trump-deportations/
Cherry picking from the article while ignoring the other points coupled
with a classic whataboutism by dragging in the topic of border crossings >>> remaining historically high in order to justify your claims, which are
false.
<https://www.cbsnews.com/news/illegal-crossings-immigration-us-mexico-southern-border-lowest-level-1970-trump-dhs/>
Watch the media shows and look for yourself. Do you see anything like
what was happening under Biden?
And the media tends to be liberal so if nothing had changed under Trump
they would be reporting it.
In short, both administrations have faced record migration challenges, >>>> and while policy approaches differ, there is no evidence of an "open
border" nor that migration "ended."
Yet another false equivalence.
While traditionally both sides have had problems, the scale and
frequency are nowhere near the same.
* Dehumanizing immigrants -- calling them "criminals," "terrorists," >>>>>> "mental patients" mirrors far-right propaganda that paints migrants >>>>>> as threats rather than people.And many of them are criminals and terrorists.
https://www.splcenter.org/fighting-hate/extremist-files/group/vdare >>>>>
Same could be said of citizens. Painting immigrants as being more
violent is false. Pothead uses white supremacist language to dehumanize >>>> them.
A whataboutism argument. I didn't say anything about immigrants being
more violent nor did I drag citizens into the statement.
A criminal is a criminal and the second they enter the country
illegally,
they have broken the law.
Pointing that out those illegals who have been caught and have extensive >>> criminal records, which is in the news virtually every day, is not
dehumanizing nor is it white supremacist language.
Of course they are humans as well. So was Charles Manson, Oswald and >>>>> many others but they were also criminals.
<https://www.cbp.gov/newsroom/stats/cbp-enforcement-statistics/criminal-alien-statistics>
You are speaking for POTHEAD here and assuming she
is listening to the far-right propaganda as an unchecked source of
information. The facts support what she is saying.
<https://dispatchnews.com/news/2024/dec/03/northern-border-terrorist-related-arrests-soar/>
<https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/feds-prevent-6-525-known-suspected-terrorists-from-entering-us/ar-AA1PmCbk>
NO facts support dehumanizing. Ever.
Once again:
Pointing that out those illegals who have been caught and have extensive >>> criminal records, which is in the news virtually every day, is not
dehumanizing nor is it white supremacist language.
* "Lazy grifters" vs. "hard-working taxpayers" -- Reagan-era dog
whistle that racializes poverty and casts minorities as parasites. >>>>>> https://www.brookings.edu/articles/americas-welfare-myths/
That's a bit of a stretch.
Those are exact phrases she used.
You have split the paragraph I wrote in order to take my statement out
of context.
The section below belongs in context with the statement" that is a bit
of a stretch, meaning your dog whistle, white supremacist claims against >>> POTHEAD.
I won't speak for POTHEAD or you for that matter, but to me it seems >>>>> likely that most people realize that immigrants are for the most part >>>>> a necessity and an asset to the U.S.
Fair.
In fact the country was founded and built by immigrants. Prior to the >>>>> previous administration immigration was for the most part controlled >>>>> and legal although the system is a disaster and is still a disaster
that needs to be completely redone.
This is not at all true. Even under Trump's first term there were
significant issues:
https://www.cbp.gov/newsroom/stats/southwest-land-border-encounters
Another false equivalence.
<https://www.cbsnews.com/news/illegal-crossings-immigration-us-mexico-southern-border-lowest-level-1970-trump-dhs/>
And now we have a grossly overfunded ICE which is an even BIGGER issue. >>>Another whataboutism.
Nothing is perfect however the topic here isn't ICE, it's about your
accusations claiming POTHEAD is a white supremacist which so far you
have not come close to achieving.
Add to that, Trump and his crew push insane white geniside lies to
promote racist policies where people are admitted or kicked out (even
if legally here) based largely on color of skin.
With the vast number of illegal immigrants here in the U.S mistakes will >>> be made.
Do you have specific examples of legal citizens deported?
What you are missing is that this is not the same type of immigration >>>>> the U.S. has had in the past.
We now face cartels involved in the migrations. These are not friendly >>>>> people just looking to make some money transporting people. They
abuse, rape women and children, hang the victim's panties in trees as >>>>> trophies and so forth.
As for hardworking U.S. taxpayers, many of them are migrants
themselves and they are struggling to pay their bills, feed their
family, pay for insurance costs, housing and so forth. So why should >>>>> someone who is entering the country illegally recieve so many free
benefits from the government?
Immigrants are not eligible for SNAP and other programs. But even if
they were, so what? We as a nation focus on the pennies that go to
helping those in need as we ignore the dollars that go to helping the
rich.
Another whataboutism.
We are discussing illegal immigrants and your claims against POTHEAD
being a white supremacist.
As for SNAP, you are incorrect.
<https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2025/10/benefits-shutdown-good-time-reassess-54-federal-benefit/>
You need to read the hotlinks to see the cites.
The minority that is the problem is not immigrants, nor transgender
folks, nor blacks, nor Jews, or Muslims. The minority that is
destroying this country are the ultra-wealthy. THAT should be our
focus. Not people in need.
Another whataboutism. The topic isn't the wealthy vs the poor.
We are discussing illegal immigrants and your claims against POTHEAD
being a white supremacist.
Who is opposing assistance to people in need?
There are plenty of legal citizens in need and massive amounts of money
are being spent on illegals.
That is wrong.
Do you think the mom and pop fruit and vegetable store owners who are >>>>> most likely migrants themselves appreciate seeing the money being
spent on illegals?
What money? ER visits? I have no issue with that.
Insurance costs, medical costs, cellphone costs, housing costs etc.
Much of which is given to illegal migrants.
Again, nothing POTHEAD is saying shows her as being a white
supremacist.
She pushes white supremacist rhetoric. Repeatedly.
You have not offered anything that confirms your claims against POTHEAD. >>> Vicious claims I might add.
At this point I am disconnecting from this thread because I have more
than made my point and you have not even come close to making yours.
Bravo!
Applause!
Your reply to the snit Brock McNuggets troll is a masterclass in how to
shut the snit troll down cold.
Indeed it is.
I wonder how long it took the OP to research though?
You are wise to disengage from this conversation because the snit troll
will continue to use his well known trolling methods to keep you engaged
in what will surely deteriorate into an endless meta thread which is what
snit Brock McNuggets goal is.
Snit has claimed that trolling Usenet is part of his mental health therapy. Since snit Michael Glasser of Prescott Arizona has been trolling for decades, he needs to find another form of therapy.
Others have posted the links to snit's various behaviors and his mental
illness so there is no need to waste space here.
Thousands of times in fact.
Snit Michael Glasser via his [email protected] flood bot
has attempted to obscure or make them difficult to track down
but like everything else snit is involved in it failed.
Snit Michael Glasser of Prescott Arizona is one of if not THE most
disliked posters on all of Usenet.
He is a dishonest, despicable, mentally ill lunatic who belongs in a straight jacket and under heavy medication.
I will leave you with a suggestion and that is to shun the snit troll and
not reply directly to him as many in ACW are already doing. The idea is to >> cut off his oxygen supply and not encourage his endless trolling which by
the way you may not realize but snit has been trolling for at least 15
years so this is not a new person here.
This description of snit is one of the best descriptions of the outcome of >> engaging directly with snit troll.
I'm certain that you will recognize the tactics listed below.
Indeed.
It's trivial to match up snit's behavior with the various lists that have been compiled. Snit's trolling methods are well known.
http://cosmicpenguin.com/snitlist.html
36- George Graves: "Jason. You have started an argument with
the Snit (AKA Michael Glasser), this should not be done. He
will drive you crazy with his twisted logic, his deep-rooted
need to be ALWAYS right at any cost. He will move goalposts,
set up strawmen, and bore you into submission with his endless
pedanticism. The only way to engage him is to hit and run. NEVER
engage him, it's a futile, empty procedure that will only anger
you and feed him. Take my advice and STAY AWAY!" 27 Oct 2004
+1
That comment is one of the most accurate regarding snit Michael Glasser of Prescott Arizona. And it's as true today as it was 21 years ago in 2004.
Brock McNuggets <[email protected]> wrote in news:69065f01$2$21$[email protected]:
On Nov 1, 2025 at 10:41:32 AM MST, "Stepin Fetchit" wrote
Again, nothing POTHEAD is saying shows her as being a white
supremacist.
She pushes white supremacist rhetoric. Repeatedly.
You have not offered anything that confirms your claims against POTHEAD. Vicious claims I might add.
At this point I am disconnecting from this thread because I have more
than made my point and you have not even come close to making yours.
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On 2025-11-03, Charlie Glock <[email protected]> wrote:
On 03 Nov 2025 00:38:56 GMT, Stepin Fetchit wrote:
Brock McNuggets <[email protected]> wrote in
news:69065f01$2$21$[email protected]:
On Nov 1, 2025 at 10:41:32 AM MST, "Stepin Fetchit" wrote
Second: Alignment with white supremacist rhetoric. From an oldBut effectively open borders with migrants, mostly unchecked and
post, based on those links:
-------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>> - - * "Open borders" and "flooding the country" -- classic Great
Replacement rhetoric claiming elites import non-white migrants to
weaken America.
https://www.adl.org/resources/backgrounder/great-replacement-theory >>>>>
illegal, flooding the country is what happened under the previous
administration. Remember the caravans of migrants heading to the
U.S? Remember these people taking shelter under bridges and
overpasses?
<https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/nearly-two-thirds-of-migrants-ente >>>>> r ed-illegally-under-biden/ar-AA1AR9iC>
All of that ended when the current administration tightened up
border security. Something the previous administration said could
not be done.
<https://time.com/7307367/negative-net-migration-trump-deportations/> >>>>>
Assuming POTHEAD actually said what you claim she did, it still does >>>>> not make her a white supremicist because regarding the facts, her
statement is true. One can argue the numbers, however the results
are incontrovertible and confirmed by many sources.
Describing the border as "mostly unchecked" is wrong. U.S. Customs
and Border Protection has consistently reported millions of
encounters per year, meaning most migrants were detained or
processed, not ignored:
https://www.cbp.gov/newsroom/stats/southwest-land-border-encounters
Did you look at the links I posted?
Encounters along with processing is effectively caught and released
unvetted with a court date that most have no intention of showing up
at. Read the script during the encounter and your in.
It also doesn't account for the number of got-aways.
Joe Biden resumed the catch and release program which Trump ended
during his first term.
<https://oversight.house.gov/release/hearing-wrap-up-biden-
administrations-catch-and-release-operation-has-inflamed-the-raging-
crisis-at-the-southern-border%ef%bf%bc/>
The numbers speak for themselves. And many sources agree that they are
on the low side.
Have you witnessed cities overrun with migrants to the point that
there is no way they can house them?
Schools, hospitals overloaded by this.
And a cost that is in most cases astronomical and will ultimately be
paid by the taxpayers.
Has this happened under any other administration?
Clinton?
Obama?
Trump's fist term?
This mass migration is due solely to Biden's administration and him
literally inviting immigrants, illegal immigrants, into the country.
The real question is why?
Likewise, the "caravans" and temporary camps under bridges were realThat is false equivalence.
events, but they occurred under multiple administrations, not only
one.
It nothing like the massive crowds of migrants under the Joe Biden
administration.
The claim that "all of that ended" after the current administration
tightened security is also false. Border crossings remain
historically high, despite new restrictions and deportation programs.
Claims of "negative net migration" under Trump are currently
unverified, according to Time:
https://time.com/7307367/negative-net-migration-trump-deportations/
Cherry picking from the article while ignoring the other points
coupled with a classic whataboutism by dragging in the topic of border
crossings remaining historically high in order to justify your claims,
which are false.
<https://www.cbsnews.com/news/illegal-crossings-immigration-us-mexico-
southern-border-lowest-level-1970-trump-dhs/>
Watch the media shows and look for yourself. Do you see anything like
what was happening under Biden?
And the media tends to be liberal so if nothing had changed under
Trump they would be reporting it.
In short, both administrations have faced record migration
challenges, and while policy approaches differ, there is no evidence
of an "open border" nor that migration "ended."
Yet another false equivalence.
While traditionally both sides have had problems, the scale and
frequency are nowhere near the same.
* Dehumanizing immigrants -- calling them "criminals,"And many of them are criminals and terrorists.
"terrorists," "mental patients" mirrors far-right propaganda that
paints migrants as threats rather than people.
https://www.splcenter.org/fighting-hate/extremist-files/group/vdare >>>>>
Same could be said of citizens. Painting immigrants as being more
violent is false. Pothead uses white supremacist language to
dehumanize them.
A whataboutism argument. I didn't say anything about immigrants being
more violent nor did I drag citizens into the statement.
A criminal is a criminal and the second they enter the country
illegally,
they have broken the law.
Pointing that out those illegals who have been caught and have
extensive criminal records, which is in the news virtually every day,
is not dehumanizing nor is it white supremacist language.
Of course they are humans as well. So was Charles Manson, Oswald and >>>>> many others but they were also criminals.
<https://www.cbp.gov/newsroom/stats/cbp-enforcement-statistics/crimin >>>>> a l-alien-statistics> You are speaking for POTHEAD here and assuming >>>>> she is listening to the far-right propaganda as an unchecked source
of information. The facts support what she is saying.
<https://dispatchnews.com/news/2024/dec/03/northern-border-terrorist- >>>>> r elated-arrests-soar/>
<https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/feds-prevent-6-525-known-suspected >>>>> - terrorists-from-entering-us/ar-AA1PmCbk>
NO facts support dehumanizing. Ever.
Once again:
Pointing that out those illegals who have been caught and have
extensive criminal records, which is in the news virtually every day,
is not dehumanizing nor is it white supremacist language.
* "Lazy grifters" vs. "hard-working taxpayers" -- Reagan-era dog
whistle that racializes poverty and casts minorities as parasites. >>>>>> https://www.brookings.edu/articles/americas-welfare-myths/
That's a bit of a stretch.
Those are exact phrases she used.
You have split the paragraph I wrote in order to take my statement out
of context.
The section below belongs in context with the statement" that is a bit
of a stretch, meaning your dog whistle, white supremacist claims
against POTHEAD.
I won't speak for POTHEAD or you for that matter, but to me it seems >>>>> likely that most people realize that immigrants are for the most
part a necessity and an asset to the U.S.
Fair.
In fact the country was founded and built by immigrants. Prior to
the previous administration immigration was for the most part
controlled and legal although the system is a disaster and is still
a disaster that needs to be completely redone.
This is not at all true. Even under Trump's first term there were
significant issues:
https://www.cbp.gov/newsroom/stats/southwest-land-border-encounters
Another false equivalence.
<https://www.cbsnews.com/news/illegal-crossings-immigration-us-mexico-
southern-border-lowest-level-1970-trump-dhs/>
And now we have a grossly overfunded ICE which is an even BIGGER
issue.
Another whataboutism.
Nothing is perfect however the topic here isn't ICE, it's about your
accusations claiming POTHEAD is a white supremacist which so far you
have not come close to achieving.
Add to that, Trump and his crew push insane white geniside lies to
promote racist policies where people are admitted or kicked out (even
if legally here) based largely on color of skin.
With the vast number of illegal immigrants here in the U.S mistakes
will be made.
Do you have specific examples of legal citizens deported?
What you are missing is that this is not the same type of
immigration the U.S. has had in the past.
We now face cartels involved in the migrations. These are not
friendly people just looking to make some money transporting people. >>>>> They abuse, rape women and children, hang the victim's panties in
trees as trophies and so forth.
As for hardworking U.S. taxpayers, many of them are migrants
themselves and they are struggling to pay their bills, feed their
family, pay for insurance costs, housing and so forth. So why should >>>>> someone who is entering the country illegally recieve so many free
benefits from the government?
Immigrants are not eligible for SNAP and other programs. But even if
they were, so what? We as a nation focus on the pennies that go to
helping those in need as we ignore the dollars that go to helping the
rich.
Another whataboutism.
We are discussing illegal immigrants and your claims against POTHEAD
being a white supremacist.
As for SNAP, you are incorrect.
<https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2025/10/benefits-shutdown-good-time-
reassess-54-federal-benefit/>
You need to read the hotlinks to see the cites.
The minority that is the problem is not immigrants, nor transgender
folks, nor blacks, nor Jews, or Muslims. The minority that is
destroying this country are the ultra-wealthy. THAT should be our
focus. Not people in need.
Another whataboutism. The topic isn't the wealthy vs the poor.
We are discussing illegal immigrants and your claims against POTHEAD
being a white supremacist.
Who is opposing assistance to people in need?
There are plenty of legal citizens in need and massive amounts of
money are being spent on illegals.
That is wrong.
Do you think the mom and pop fruit and vegetable store owners who
are most likely migrants themselves appreciate seeing the money
being spent on illegals?
What money? ER visits? I have no issue with that.
Insurance costs, medical costs, cellphone costs, housing costs etc.
Much of which is given to illegal migrants.
Again, nothing POTHEAD is saying shows her as being a white
supremacist.
She pushes white supremacist rhetoric. Repeatedly.
You have not offered anything that confirms your claims against
POTHEAD. Vicious claims I might add.
At this point I am disconnecting from this thread because I have more
than made my point and you have not even come close to making yours.
Bravo!
Applause!
Your reply to the snit Brock McNuggets troll is a masterclass in how to
shut the snit troll down cold.
Indeed it is.
I wonder how long it took the OP to research though?
You are wise to disengage from this conversation because the snit troll
will continue to use his well known trolling methods to keep you
engaged in what will surely deteriorate into an endless meta thread
which is what snit Brock McNuggets goal is.
Snit has claimed that trolling Usenet is part of his mental health
therapy. Since snit Michael Glasser of Prescott Arizona has been
trolling for decades, he needs to find another form of therapy.
Others have posted the links to snit's various behaviors and his mental
illness so there is no need to waste space here.
Thousands of times in fact.
Snit Michael Glasser via his [email protected] flood bot
has attempted to obscure or make them difficult to track down
but like everything else snit is involved in it failed.
Snit Michael Glasser of Prescott Arizona is one of if not THE most
disliked posters on all of Usenet.
He is a dishonest, despicable, mentally ill lunatic who belongs in a
straight jacket and under heavy medication.
I will leave you with a suggestion and that is to shun the snit troll
and not reply directly to him as many in ACW are already doing. The
idea is to cut off his oxygen supply and not encourage his endless
trolling which by the way you may not realize but snit has been
trolling for at least 15 years so this is not a new person here.
This description of snit is one of the best descriptions of the outcome
of engaging directly with snit troll.
I'm certain that you will recognize the tactics listed below.
Indeed.
It's trivial to match up snit's behavior with the various lists that
have been compiled. Snit's trolling methods are well known.
http://cosmicpenguin.com/snitlist.html
36- George Graves: "Jason. You have started an argument with
the Snit (AKA Michael Glasser), this should not be done. He
will drive you crazy with his twisted logic, his deep-rooted
need to be ALWAYS right at any cost. He will move goalposts,
set up strawmen, and bore you into submission with his endless
pedanticism. The only way to engage him is to hit and run. NEVER
engage him, it's a futile, empty procedure that will only anger
you and feed him. Take my advice and STAY AWAY!" 27 Oct 2004
+1
That comment is one of the most accurate regarding snit Michael Glasser
of Prescott Arizona. And it's as true today as it was 21 years ago in
2004.
<https://tinyurl.com/WhatIsSnit>
<https://tinyurl.com/Snitliesmethods>
<https://tinyurl.com/Snit-Reviews>
<https://tinyurl.com/Snitwhopperlie>
<https://tinyurl.com/Snit-teddybear>
<https://tinyurl.com/Snitonduck>
<https://tinyurl.com/Snitongoogle>
<https://tinyurl.com/Snitdrugabuse1>
<https://tinyurl.com/Snitdrugabuse2>
<https://tinyurl.com/Snitdrugabuse3>
<https://tinyurl.com/Snitdrugabuse4>
<https://tinyurl.com/Snitdrugabuse5>
<https://tinyurl.com/Snitdrugabuse6>
<https://tinyurl.com/Snitdrugabuse7>
<https://tinyurl.com/Snitdrugabuse8>
<https://tinyurl.com/Snitdrugabuse9>
<https://tinyurl.com/Snitdrugabuse10>
<https://tinyurl.com/Snitdrugabuse11>
http://cosmicpenguin.com/snitlist.html
36- George Graves: "Jason. You have started an argument with
the Snit (AKA Michael Glasser), this should not be done. He
will drive you crazy with his twisted logic, his deep-rooted
need to be ALWAYS right at any cost. He will move goalposts,
set up strawmen, and bore you into submission with his endless
pedanticism. The only way to engage him is to hit and run. NEVER
engage him, it's a futile, empty procedure that will only anger
you and feed him. Take my advice and STAY AWAY!" 27 Oct 2004
+1
That comment is one of the most accurate regarding snit Michael Glasser
of Prescott Arizona. And it's as true today as it was 21 years ago in
2004.
I didn't snip a single line of this. Sorry Apd. Full context is important
and not everyone knows what the references line is for - Snit had no concept until I explained it to him.
I'm sure you've seen how well he's doing in COLA. He can't blame any of us for some of their posters to be catching on.
David also said that I'd be
chewed out for posting there - I've yet to experience a chewing. Even an unjustified one. I've interacted with several on technical as well as political subjects. It doesn't appear that anyone has an issue with me so far. :)
I have corrected a few individuals in the technical discussions and haven't been chewed out for it. I'm on the fence with the Alan poster, but, I
suspect that he's an Apple fanboy who isn't as well versed in the history of computing as he was passing himself off as. In some respects, he reminds me of a combination of Joel and Snit. Just not as dishonest from what I can see so far.
You were right btw, I don't need to defend myself - even with Snits so
called receipts.
I've seen other people I don't even know calling him out on
them. I read the entire interaction between Snit and Stepin Fetchit concerning Snits accusations against you. Stepin not only didn't buy it - he didn't take any of it at face value. Instead, he opted to read exactly what Snit wrote, and, has torn Snit to pieces for it.
It was fucking hilarious!
RonB has engaged Snit and toasted him.
As as a few others who appear to be
well known posters from that newsgroup. I don't think Snit is going to be able to establish much of a foot hold there. To be sure, I will continue sharing the snit urls on occasion in replies towards posters who are attempting to discuss things - just to save them some time. Snit won't back down when he's wrong. We know this. Not all of them do. Yet.
The newsgroup does have some interesting and very Linux knowledgeable individuals. It also has it's share of trolls, but they are the typical run of the mill kind. Not the Snit kind.
<https://tinyurl.com/WhatIsSnit>
<https://tinyurl.com/Snitliesmethods>
<https://tinyurl.com/Snit-Reviews>
<https://tinyurl.com/Snitwhopperlie>
<https://tinyurl.com/Snit-teddybear>
<https://tinyurl.com/Snitonduck>
<https://tinyurl.com/Snitongoogle>
<https://tinyurl.com/Snitdrugabuse1>
<https://tinyurl.com/Snitdrugabuse2>
<https://tinyurl.com/Snitdrugabuse3>
<https://tinyurl.com/Snitdrugabuse4>
<https://tinyurl.com/Snitdrugabuse5>
<https://tinyurl.com/Snitdrugabuse6>
<https://tinyurl.com/Snitdrugabuse7>
<https://tinyurl.com/Snitdrugabuse8>
<https://tinyurl.com/Snitdrugabuse9>
<https://tinyurl.com/Snitdrugabuse10>
<https://tinyurl.com/Snitdrugabuse11>
For those of you posting via ES, I've found that if the urls are presented
as quoted - it doesn't reject the post.
Also, if you only include a max of 3
it doesn't reject the post. In that event, I recommend the first three (3). They don't need to appear to be quoted to be used. His anti spam routine shouldn't be flagging them in the first place, but I can understand it might mistake multiple tinyurl.com lines as spam although it's not.
Stepin Fetchit <[email protected]> news:[email protected] Mon, 03 Nov 2025 00:38:56 GMT in alt.computer.workshop, wrote:
Brock McNuggets <[email protected]> wrote in
news:69065f01$2$21$[email protected]:
On Nov 1, 2025 at 10:41:32 AM MST, "Stepin Fetchit" wrote
Again, nothing POTHEAD is saying shows her as being a white
supremacist.
She pushes white supremacist rhetoric. Repeatedly.
You have not offered anything that confirms your claims against POTHEAD.
Vicious claims I might add.
At this point I am disconnecting from this thread because I have more
than made my point and you have not even come close to making yours.
Snit won't ever make his point.
On 28/10/2025 11:18, Daniel70 wrote:
On 28/10/2025 9:48 pm, David B. wrote:
On 28/10/2025 10:22, Daniel70 wrote:
When we ET's had finished our (main) Trade Training (November 1975),
we did TWO WEEKS (yes, a whole Two Weeks!!) on these 'new fangled
Black Box' things called Integrated Circuits. And that was it!!
Later (1990), as a requirement for promotion passed Sargeant, I had
to do my Associate Diploma of Engineering (Electronics).
No doubt you, too, have always valued that start in life, Daniel!
I loved Australia. I spent two years on loan service to the RAN and
was based at NAS Nowra, NSW. I also spent two months aboard HMAS
Melbourne during a RIMPAC exercise which culminated with two weeks
alongside in Hawaii!
HMAS Melbourne!! You lucky bastard!! In my time, in the Navy, people
would just about KILL to have that experience!!
Haha! 🙂. I enjoyed it too, but my wife wasn't too happy about me
dumping her in a foreign land with three young children to look after!
Do you still live there?
Born'n'Bred in Australia. I've been round about on Holidays
(UK/Europe, SE Asia, China) but still live in Australia.
It's good to know that you have 'seen the world' - unlike many Americans!
My son has a friend who is from South Africa. When I asked him what it
was like he said "Like Australia, but without the flies!"
That brought back some memories! ;-)
On 28/10/2025 11:18, Daniel70 wrote:
On 28/10/2025 9:48 pm, David B. wrote:
I loved Australia. I spent two years on loan service to the RAN and
was based at NAS Nowra, NSW. I also spent two months aboard HMAS
Melbourne during a RIMPAC exercise which culminated with two weeks
alongside in Hawaii!
HMAS Melbourne!! You lucky bastard!! In my time, in the Navy, people
would just about KILL to have that experience!!
Haha! 🙂. I enjoyed it too, but my wife wasn't too happy about me
dumping her in a foreign land with three young children to look after!
Do you still live there?
Born'n'Bred in Australia. I've been round about on Holidays
(UK/Europe, SE Asia, China) but still live in Australia.
It's good to know that you have 'seen the world' - unlike many Americans!
My son has a friend who is from South Africa. When I asked him what it
was like he said "Like Australia, but without the flies!"
That brought back some memories! ;-)
At Wed, 29 Oct 2025 14:37:21 -0700, Alan <[email protected]> wrote:
On 2025-10-29 14:19, Joel W. Crump wrote:
On 10/29/2025 5:02 PM, Alan wrote:
You basically admitted that your scanner doesn't fit in your
normal setup.
Why would I leave it attached, using power, when I can just plug it >>>>>>> in by USB anytime? You're arguing for the sake of arguing.
Convenience.
When my landlord pays the electric bill, how convenient would it be
for him to have to pay for a rarely used device needlessly connected >>>>> to my computer?
What USB scanner do you have?
Epson Perfection V39, purchased in 2023. My friend was trying to get
his unemployment benefits, and had to prove his identity online, and it
was a device I wasn't against having (and I had a gift-card balance on
Amazon from my birthday), I've used it to scan my own driver's license
including just recently when I renewed it. I haven't used it
extensively, but it is nice to have.
What is it's current draw at idle?
I really don't know.
I do. Because I'm bright enough to check.
In use, it draws 2.5 watts.
I don't know where you live, but where I live electricity costs about
$0.15 per kilowatt-hour.
That scanner being actively used 24 hours a day for an entire year would
cost...
...$3.29
But!
Plugged in and NOT in use, it draws 1.1 watts. So left plugged in all
the time, it would cost $1.44 a year.
But, but!
When the computer is asleep, the scanner only draws 0.0125 watts.
So your power usage argument is complete bullshit.
If that were actually a significant amount, couldn't you just unplug
it without moving it?
That's exactly what I'd do if it were located on the desk, I don't have
space for it there.
Which is what I was saying:
You have a device that's inconvenient that is completely unnecessary if
you have an iPhone!
You have to:
1. Move a chair.
2. Retrieve the scanner
3. Plug it in.
All before you can scan.
Yeah well I have to walk to get food and other items, it takes a
little time and effort, but it allows me to live within my means,
instead of flailing around trying to support a vehicle I can't begin >>>>> to afford. Hell, in many cases it's easier to walk anyway, I live
close to things, but then there are occasions a car would be nice.
But you learn to accept what you have, as a grown person.
And the deflecting begins!
No, the point is that you're making a big deal out of very little.
You make a big deal out of actually nothing at all, so...
By having an iPhone, I don't NEED a scanner.
My "scanner" is available at all times...
...takes up no additional space...
...and it goes with me everywhere.
And I would not like using a phone for that, I'm sorry I'm so
backward, sheesh.
The only reason not to like it without even trying it, is to be
argumentative.
I like the innovation of the feature, abstractly, Apple gets points
for that, but I already have a flatbed scanner, I just would gain
little to nothing, I don't want to use my phone for that function.
But you're the one who talks about spending less...
By not buying a Mac, I could afford a scanner.
I have a ScanSnap IX1600, which is a color duplex scanner that has
a document feeder. If I scan a multipage, double-sided, color document,
it's a lot less hassle than scanning with a phone.
I also have an HP all-in-one on the network, which is behind me. I can scan over wifi.
I use the Paperless document management system, which is installed
as a Linux container. Importing documents is a matter of either drag-drop
an image, or a pdf. I use ImageMagick to create PDF's if I need them. It's all
dirt-simple.
The ScanSnap is destined to be moved to Mrs. Vallor's Mac Studio, and she already has access to Paperless. I guess she should scan a document with
her iPhone, but for a multipage document, the ScanSnap is a big win.
Using a phone is okay if you don't scan much.Exactly.
On 29/10/2025 12:20 am, David B. wrote:
On 28/10/2025 11:18, Daniel70 wrote:
On 28/10/2025 9:48 pm, David B. wrote:
<Snip>
I loved Australia. I spent two years on loan service to the RAN and
was based at NAS Nowra, NSW. I also spent two months aboard HMAS
Melbourne during a RIMPAC exercise which culminated with two weeks
alongside in Hawaii!
HMAS Melbourne!! You lucky bastard!! In my time, in the Navy, people
would just about KILL to have that experience!!
Haha! 🙂. I enjoyed it too, but my wife wasn't too happy about me
dumping her in a foreign land with three young children to look after!
Do you still live there?
Born'n'Bred in Australia. I've been round about on Holidays (UK/
Europe, SE Asia, China) but still live in Australia.
It's good to know that you have 'seen the world' - unlike many Americans!
My youngest sister married a Scot in Scotland so, on our way there, my Father and I visited distant relatives in Croatia .... and then, as the
"Sun Set on The Empire", some friends and I spent a week or so in Hong
Kong and, on the way back home, we had to spend a night in Manila.
My son has a friend who is from South Africa. When I asked him what itFlies! Flies! Bloody Flies!! .... and we're just getting into THEIR
was like he said "Like Australia, but without the flies!"
That brought back some memories! ;-)
season!!
On Oct 29, 2025 at 11:39:25 AM MST, ""David B."" wrote <[email protected]>:
On 28/10/2025 14:22, Brock McNuggets wrote:
On Oct 28, 2025 at 7:18:09 AM MST, ""David B."" wrote
<[email protected]>:
On 28/10/2025 13:57, Brock McNuggets wrote:
On Oct 28, 2025 at 3:22:54 AM MST, "Daniel70" wrote[....]
When I started my Electronics Technician training (1973) in the
Australian Army, we did a Four Year Apprenticeship.
For most trades (Electrical Mechanic/Electrical Fitter/Motor
Mechanic/Metal Worker/Carpenter/Plumber), it was two years Training >>>>>> (Trade/Soldiering/General Education) followed by two years OJT (On the >>>>>> Job Training).
For my Electronic Technician (ET) training, it was three years
(Trade/Soldiering/General Education) followed by one year OJT (On the >>>>>> Job Training).
When we ET's had finished our (main) Trade Training (November 1975), we >>>>>> did TWO WEEKS (yes, a whole Two Weeks!!) on these 'new fangled Black >>>>>> Box' things called Integrated Circuits. And that was it!!
Later (1990), as a requirement for promotion passed Sargeant, I had to >>>>>> do my Associate Diploma of Engineering (Electronics).
I am sure you have some amazing stories you could tell.
Daniel sounds like a good new recruit for ACW! ;-)
Agreed.
Maybe YOU would like to invite him formally?
Daniel70... would love to have you come join us in ACW (alt.computer.workshop).
On 30/10/2025 5:46 am, Brock McNuggets wrote:
On Oct 29, 2025 at 11:39:25 AM MST, ""David B."" wroteOnly got approx 54,000 messages to read .... discussions that I've read don't really impress me though!!
<[email protected]>:
On 28/10/2025 14:22, Brock McNuggets wrote:
On Oct 28, 2025 at 7:18:09 AM MST, ""David B."" wrote
<[email protected]>:
On 28/10/2025 13:57, Brock McNuggets wrote:
On Oct 28, 2025 at 3:22:54 AM MST, "Daniel70" wrote[....]
When I started my Electronics Technician training (1973) in the
Australian Army, we did a Four Year Apprenticeship.
For most trades (Electrical Mechanic/Electrical Fitter/Motor
Mechanic/Metal Worker/Carpenter/Plumber), it was two years Training >>>>>>> (Trade/Soldiering/General Education) followed by two years OJT
(On the
Job Training).
For my Electronic Technician (ET) training, it was three years
(Trade/Soldiering/General Education) followed by one year OJT (On >>>>>>> the
Job Training).
When we ET's had finished our (main) Trade Training (November
1975), we
did TWO WEEKS (yes, a whole Two Weeks!!) on these 'new fangled Black >>>>>>> Box' things called Integrated Circuits. And that was it!!
Later (1990), as a requirement for promotion passed Sargeant, I >>>>>>> had to
do my Associate Diploma of Engineering (Electronics).
I am sure you have some amazing stories you could tell.
Daniel sounds like a good new recruit for ACW! ;-)
Agreed.
Maybe YOU would like to invite him formally?
Daniel70... would love to have you come join us in ACW
(alt.computer.workshop).
On 30/10/2025 5:46 am, Brock McNuggets wrote:
On Oct 29, 2025 at 11:39:25 AM MST, ""David B."" wroteOnly got approx 54,000 messages to read .... discussions that I've read don't really impress me though!!
<[email protected]>:
On 28/10/2025 14:22, Brock McNuggets wrote:
On Oct 28, 2025 at 7:18:09 AM MST, ""David B."" wrote
<[email protected]>:
On 28/10/2025 13:57, Brock McNuggets wrote:
On Oct 28, 2025 at 3:22:54 AM MST, "Daniel70" wrote[....]
When I started my Electronics Technician training (1973) in the
Australian Army, we did a Four Year Apprenticeship.
For most trades (Electrical Mechanic/Electrical Fitter/Motor
Mechanic/Metal Worker/Carpenter/Plumber), it was two years Training >>>>>>> (Trade/Soldiering/General Education) followed by two years OJT
(On the
Job Training).
For my Electronic Technician (ET) training, it was three years
(Trade/Soldiering/General Education) followed by one year OJT (On >>>>>>> the
Job Training).
When we ET's had finished our (main) Trade Training (November
1975), we
did TWO WEEKS (yes, a whole Two Weeks!!) on these 'new fangled Black >>>>>>> Box' things called Integrated Circuits. And that was it!!
Later (1990), as a requirement for promotion passed Sargeant, I >>>>>>> had to
do my Associate Diploma of Engineering (Electronics).
I am sure you have some amazing stories you could tell.
Daniel sounds like a good new recruit for ACW! ;-)
Agreed.
Maybe YOU would like to invite him formally?
Daniel70... would love to have you come join us in ACW
(alt.computer.workshop).
try shut your face before i tell them what an idgit you are
On 30/10/2025 5:46 am, Brock McNuggets wrote:
On Oct 29, 2025 at 11:39:25 AM MST, ""David B."" wroteOnly got approx 54,000 messages to read .... discussions that I've read
<[email protected]>:
On 28/10/2025 14:22, Brock McNuggets wrote:
On Oct 28, 2025 at 7:18:09 AM MST, ""David B."" wrote
<[email protected]>:
On 28/10/2025 13:57, Brock McNuggets wrote:
On Oct 28, 2025 at 3:22:54 AM MST, "Daniel70" wrote[....]
When I started my Electronics Technician training (1973) in the
Australian Army, we did a Four Year Apprenticeship.
For most trades (Electrical Mechanic/Electrical Fitter/Motor
Mechanic/Metal Worker/Carpenter/Plumber), it was two years Training >>>>>>> (Trade/Soldiering/General Education) followed by two years OJT (On the >>>>>>> Job Training).
For my Electronic Technician (ET) training, it was three years
(Trade/Soldiering/General Education) followed by one year OJT (On the >>>>>>> Job Training).
When we ET's had finished our (main) Trade Training (November 1975), we >>>>>>> did TWO WEEKS (yes, a whole Two Weeks!!) on these 'new fangled Black >>>>>>> Box' things called Integrated Circuits. And that was it!!
Later (1990), as a requirement for promotion passed Sargeant, I had to >>>>>>> do my Associate Diploma of Engineering (Electronics).
I am sure you have some amazing stories you could tell.
Daniel sounds like a good new recruit for ACW! ;-)
Agreed.
Maybe YOU would like to invite him formally?
Daniel70... would love to have you come join us in ACW
(alt.computer.workshop).
don't really impress me though!!
I didn't snip a single line of this. Sorry Apd. Full context is important and not everyone knows what the references line is for - Snit had no concept until I explained it to him.
I'm sure you've seen how well he's doing in COLA. He can't blame any of us for some of their posters to be catching on. David also said that I'd be chewed out for posting there - I've yet to experience a chewing. Even an unjustified one. I've interacted with several on technical as well as political subjects. It doesn't appear that anyone has an issue with me so far. :)
I have corrected a few individuals in the technical discussions and haven't been chewed out for it. I'm on the fence with the Alan poster, but, I suspect that he's an Apple fanboy who isn't as well versed in the history of computing as he was passing himself off as. In some respects, he reminds me of a combination of Joel and Snit. Just not as dishonest from what I can see so far.
You were right btw, I don't need to defend myself - even with Snits so called receipts. I've seen other people I don't even know calling him out on them. I read the entire interaction between Snit and Stepin Fetchit concerning Snits accusations against you. Stepin not only didn't buy it - he didn't take any of it at face value. Instead, he opted to read exactly what Snit wrote, and, has torn Snit to pieces for it. It was fucking hilarious! RonB has engaged Snit and toasted him. As as a few others who appear to be well known posters from that newsgroup. I don't think Snit is going to be able to establish much of a foot hold there. To be sure, I will continue sharing the snit urls on occasion in replies towards posters who are attempting to discuss things - just to save them some time. Snit won't back down when he's wrong. We know this. Not all of them do. Yet.
The newsgroup does have some interesting and very Linux knowledgeable individuals. It also has it's share of trolls, but they are the typical run of the mill kind. Not the Snit kind.
<https://tinyurl.com/WhatIsSnit>
<https://tinyurl.com/Snitliesmethods>
<https://tinyurl.com/Snit-Reviews>
<https://tinyurl.com/Snitwhopperlie>
<https://tinyurl.com/Snit-teddybear>
<https://tinyurl.com/Snitonduck>
<https://tinyurl.com/Snitongoogle>
<https://tinyurl.com/Snitdrugabuse1>
<https://tinyurl.com/Snitdrugabuse2>
<https://tinyurl.com/Snitdrugabuse3>
<https://tinyurl.com/Snitdrugabuse4>
<https://tinyurl.com/Snitdrugabuse5>
<https://tinyurl.com/Snitdrugabuse6>
<https://tinyurl.com/Snitdrugabuse7>
<https://tinyurl.com/Snitdrugabuse8>
<https://tinyurl.com/Snitdrugabuse9>
<https://tinyurl.com/Snitdrugabuse10>
<https://tinyurl.com/Snitdrugabuse11>
For those of you posting via ES, I've found that if the urls are presented as quoted - it doesn't reject the post. Also, if you only include a max of 3 it doesn't reject the post. In that event, I recommend the first three (3). They don't need to appear to be quoted to be used. His anti spam routine shouldn't be flagging them in the first place, but I can understand it might mistake multiple tinyurl.com lines as spam although it's not.
On 2025-11-04, Gremlin <[email protected]> wrote:
I didn't snip a single line of this. Sorry Apd. Full context is important
and not everyone knows what the references line is for - Snit had no concept >> until I explained it to him.
As you posted the thread in context, I snipped this time to save reading.
I'm sure you've seen how well he's doing in COLA. He can't blame any of us >> for some of their posters to be catching on. David also said that I'd be
chewed out for posting there - I've yet to experience a chewing. Even an
unjustified one. I've interacted with several on technical as well as
political subjects. It doesn't appear that anyone has an issue with me so
far. :)
Snit is truly hated in COLA although the posters in CSMA hate snit even more. There are people in COLA that really have a lot of experience with Linux and Windows/Mac as well.
While there are a couple of wingnuts, most are very nice.
I have corrected a few individuals in the technical discussions and haven't >> been chewed out for it. I'm on the fence with the Alan poster, but, I
suspect that he's an Apple fanboy who isn't as well versed in the history of >> computing as he was passing himself off as. In some respects, he reminds me >> of a combination of Joel and Snit. Just not as dishonest from what I can see >> so far.
As you noticed, Alan is an Apple fanboy but he does know his stuff.
Unlike snit or Joel.
Joel actually believes he is Jesus Christ. Let that sink in.
As you noticed, Alan is an Apple fanboy but he does know his stuff.
Unlike snit or Joel.
Joel actually believes he is Jesus Christ. Let that sink in.
On 11/5/25 6:17 PM, pothead wrote:
As you noticed, Alan is an Apple fanboy but he does know his stuff.
Unlike snit or Joel.
I guess that's why I just compiled Pan from source to log in to Eternal September's server to look for a missing post that I couldn't trace as
it turned out 'cause it was a Gremlin post, who is most def killfiled in Thunderbird.
On 2025-11-04, Gremlin <[email protected]> wrote:
I'm sure you've seen how well he's doing in COLA. He can't blame any of
us for some of their posters to be catching on. David also said that
I'd be chewed out for posting there - I've yet to experience a chewing.
Even an unjustified one. I've interacted with several on technical as
well as political subjects. It doesn't appear that anyone has an issue
with me so far. :)
Snit is truly hated in COLA although the posters in CSMA hate snit even
more. There are people in COLA that really have a lot of experience with Linux and Windows/Mac as well.
While there are a couple of wingnuts, most are very nice.
I have corrected a few individuals in the technical discussions and
haven't been chewed out for it. I'm on the fence with the Alan poster,
but, I suspect that he's an Apple fanboy who isn't as well versed in
the history of computing as he was passing himself off as. In some
respects, he reminds me of a combination of Joel and Snit. Just not as
dishonest from what I can see so far.
As you noticed, Alan is an Apple fanboy but he does know his stuff.
Unlike snit or Joel.
Joel actually believes he is Jesus Christ. Let that sink in.
Stepin Fetchit did seem to take the time to actually examine snit's
claims, replies and posts in general and like everyone else, like you
and I, who actually take the time to read what snit Michael Glasser of Prescott Arizona posts, he reached the obvious conclusion that snit is a total liar and a lunatic.
<https://tinyurl.com/WhatIsSnit>
<https://tinyurl.com/Snitliesmethods>
<https://tinyurl.com/Snit-Reviews>
<https://tinyurl.com/Snitwhopperlie>
<https://tinyurl.com/Snit-teddybear>
<https://tinyurl.com/Snitonduck>
<https://tinyurl.com/Snitongoogle>
<https://tinyurl.com/Snitdrugabuse1>
<https://tinyurl.com/Snitdrugabuse2>
<https://tinyurl.com/Snitdrugabuse3>
<https://tinyurl.com/Snitdrugabuse4>
<https://tinyurl.com/Snitdrugabuse5>
<https://tinyurl.com/Snitdrugabuse6>
<https://tinyurl.com/Snitdrugabuse7>
<https://tinyurl.com/Snitdrugabuse8>
<https://tinyurl.com/Snitdrugabuse9>
<https://tinyurl.com/Snitdrugabuse10>
<https://tinyurl.com/Snitdrugabuse11>
For those of you posting via ES, I've found that if the urls are
presented as quoted - it doesn't reject the post. Also, if you only
include a max of 3 it doesn't reject the post. In that event, I
recommend the first three (3). They don't need to appear to be quoted
to be used. His anti spam routine shouldn't be flagging them in the
first place, but I can understand it might mistake multiple tinyurl.com
lines as spam although it's not.
It's an excellent summary of the snit troll.
And it drives him bonkers whenever it gets posted because he knows he is unable to refute the posts.
His latest diversion is to request Message-IDs.
Don't waste your time because these have been provided either as direct
links to his posts or from archives like HK or wayback.
Snit is simply attempting to take the focus off himself and send you on
a wild goose chase.
It's more entertaining to watch snit begging for Message-ID's.
Hilarious in fact!
On Nov 5, 2025 at 4:05:16 AM MST, "Daniel70" wrote <10efb1c$b23q$[email protected]>:
On 30/10/2025 5:46 am, Brock McNuggets wrote:
Daniel70... would love to have you come join us in ACWOnly got approx 54,000 messages to read .... discussions that I've read
(alt.computer.workshop).
don't really impress me though!!
Sadly much is about trolls just screaming how much they hate people who are honest. I am their favorite target -- somehow I "lie" in ways they cannot quote nor point to MIDs to support. But somehow 2004 is a very important year you MUST know about.
Getting better blood in the group would be good. People who ignore their BS (I
admit I do not).
On 6/11/2025 2:12 am, Brock McNuggets wrote:
On Nov 5, 2025 at 4:05:16 AM MST, "Daniel70" wrote
<10efb1c$b23q$[email protected]>:
On 30/10/2025 5:46 am, Brock McNuggets wrote:
<Snip>
Daniel70... would love to have you come join us in ACWOnly got approx 54,000 messages to read .... discussions that I've read
(alt.computer.workshop).
don't really impress me though!!
Sadly much is about trolls just screaming how much they hate people
who are
honest. I am their favorite target -- somehow I "lie" in ways they cannot
quote nor point to MIDs to support. But somehow 2004 is a very
important year
you MUST know about.
Hmmm!! I've encountered "2004" somewhere hereabouts .... but don't
remember why!!
Getting better blood in the group would be good. People who ignore
their BS (I
admit I do not).
But, whilst the group is overrun with crap, I think you have bugger all chance of reviving the group!
On 11/5/25 6:17 PM, pothead wrote:
As you noticed, Alan is an Apple fanboy but he does know his stuff.
Unlike snit or Joel.
I guess that's why I just compiled Pan from source to log in to Eternal September's server to look for a missing post that I couldn't trace as
it turned out 'cause it was a Gremlin post, who is most def killfiled in Thunderbird.
Joel actually believes he is Jesus Christ. Let that sink in.
Wait till you see me go public, dumbshit.
On 2025-11-06, Joel W. Crump <[email protected]> wrote:
On 11/5/25 6:17 PM, pothead wrote:I sincerely hope I don't see it on the front page of the NY Times with a picture of you waving a machete while screaming Allahu Akbar.
As you noticed, Alan is an Apple fanboy but he does know his stuff.
Unlike snit or Joel.
I guess that's why I just compiled Pan from source to log in to Eternal
September's server to look for a missing post that I couldn't trace as
it turned out 'cause it was a Gremlin post, who is most def killfiled in
Thunderbird.
Joel actually believes he is Jesus Christ. Let that sink in.
Wait till you see me go public, dumbshit.
On 6/11/2025 2:12 am, Brock McNuggets wrote:
On Nov 5, 2025 at 4:05:16 AM MST, "Daniel70" wrote
<10efb1c$b23q$[email protected]>:
On 30/10/2025 5:46 am, Brock McNuggets wrote:
<Snip>
Daniel70... would love to have you come join us in ACWOnly got approx 54,000 messages to read .... discussions that I've read
(alt.computer.workshop).
don't really impress me though!!
Sadly much is about trolls just screaming how much they hate people who are >> honest. I am their favorite target -- somehow I "lie" in ways they cannot
quote nor point to MIDs to support. But somehow 2004 is a very important year
you MUST know about.
Hmmm!! I've encountered "2004" somewhere hereabouts .... but don't
remember why!!
--Getting better blood in the group would be good. People who ignore their BS (I
admit I do not).
But, whilst the group is overrun with crap, I think you have bugger all chance of reviving the group!
On 11/5/25 6:17 PM, pothead wrote:
Joel actually believes he is Jesus Christ. Let that sink in.
Wait till you see me go public, dumbshit.
I sincerely hope I don't see it on the front page of the NY Times with a picture of you waving a machete while screaming Allahu Akbar.Joel actually believes he is Jesus Christ. Let that sink in.
Wait till you see me go public, dumbshit.
On 11/6/25 8:52 AM, pothead wrote:
I sincerely hope I don't see it on the front page of the NY Times with aJoel actually believes he is Jesus Christ. Let that sink in.
Wait till you see me go public, dumbshit.
picture of you waving a machete while screaming Allahu Akbar.
You read that rag? But no, this ain't Kikeland,
it's the U.S., I am in
favor of Muslims immigrating the same as any other person, but this is a place where *everyone* is supposed to integrate and get along. People
like *you* are the ones failing in that, white supremacist.
On Nov 6, 2025 at 8:47:58 AM MST, ""Joel W. Crump"" wrote <Oq3PQ.266708$[email protected]>:
On 11/6/25 8:52 AM, pothead wrote:
I sincerely hope I don't see it on the front page of the NY Times with a >>> picture of you waving a machete while screaming Allahu Akbar.Joel actually believes he is Jesus Christ. Let that sink in.
Wait till you see me go public, dumbshit.
You read that rag? But no, this ain't Kikeland,
Excuse me?
it's the U.S., I am in
favor of Muslims immigrating the same as any other person, but this is a
place where *everyone* is supposed to integrate and get along. People
like *you* are the ones failing in that, white supremacist.
THAT I agree with, 100%.
On Nov 6, 2025 at 8:47:58 AM MST, ""Joel W. Crump"" wrote <Oq3PQ.266708$[email protected]>:
On 11/6/25 8:52 AM, pothead wrote:
I sincerely hope I don't see it on the front page of the NY Times with a >>> picture of you waving a machete while screaming Allahu Akbar.Joel actually believes he is Jesus Christ. Let that sink in.
Wait till you see me go public, dumbshit.
You read that rag? But no, this ain't Kikeland,
Excuse me?
it's the U.S., I am in
favor of Muslims immigrating the same as any other person, but this is a
place where *everyone* is supposed to integrate and get along. People
like *you* are the ones failing in that, white supremacist.
THAT I agree with, 100%.
On 11/6/25 8:52 AM, pothead wrote:
I sincerely hope I don't see it on the front page of the NY Times with aJoel actually believes he is Jesus Christ. Let that sink in.
Wait till you see me go public, dumbshit.
picture of you waving a machete while screaming Allahu Akbar.
You read that rag?
favor of Muslims immigrating the same as any other person, but this is a place where *everyone* is supposed to integrate and get along. People
like *you* are the ones failing in that, white supremacist.
I sincerely hope I don't see it on the front page of the NY Times with a >>> picture of you waving a machete while screaming Allahu Akbar.Joel actually believes he is Jesus Christ. Let that sink in.
Wait till you see me go public, dumbshit.
You read that rag?
It was just an example of a well known print media outlet.
Oh, and I agree with you in that the NY Times *IS* a rag.
But no, this ain't Kikeland, it's the U.S., I am in
favor of Muslims immigrating the same as any other person, but this is a
place where *everyone* is supposed to integrate and get along. People
like *you* are the ones failing in that, white supremacist.
ROTFLMAO!
Your buddy took the bait in the trap I set for him.
Just like I knew he would.
Snit never fails to entertain!
BTW, you might want to look up the meaning of Allahu Akbar.
It's not a white supremacist phrase at all.
Why must I, and others, continually need to educate you two Nimrods?
On 11/6/25 10:54 AM, Brock McNuggets wrote:
On Nov 6, 2025 at 8:47:58 AM MST, ""Joel W. Crump"" wrote
<Oq3PQ.266708$[email protected]>:
On 11/6/25 8:52 AM, pothead wrote:
I sincerely hope I don't see it on the front page of the NY Times with a >>>> picture of you waving a machete while screaming Allahu Akbar.Joel actually believes he is Jesus Christ. Let that sink in.
Wait till you see me go public, dumbshit.
You read that rag? But no, this ain't Kikeland,
Excuse me?
I don't like being anti-Israel nor seemingly antisemitic. On an
abstract level, both are poor things to be. But something has to send
the message that what the Israeli *regime* does, going back decades and especially in the last two years, is pure evil, they are the Nazis their people once suffered brutally under. They support DJT, who is literally Hitler. This cannot continue indefinitely.
it's the U.S., I am in
favor of Muslims immigrating the same as any other person, but this is a >>> place where *everyone* is supposed to integrate and get along. People
like *you* are the ones failing in that, white supremacist.
THAT I agree with, 100%.
I find it ironic that there's one Jewish member of congress, currently,
who is blatantly there to shill for Israel and little more. Really a
piece of work. Meanwhile, there are a majority of Jews in the U.S. who
are on our side, they aren't happy with the status quo, and they're
people I can work with. If they're offended by my rhetoric, I accept
that, but they should know that it's not antisemitism driving it, it's politics.
On 2025-11-06, Joel W. Crump <[email protected]> wrote:
On 11/6/25 8:52 AM, pothead wrote:
I sincerely hope I don't see it on the front page of the NY Times with a >>> picture of you waving a machete while screaming Allahu Akbar.Joel actually believes he is Jesus Christ. Let that sink in.
Wait till you see me go public, dumbshit.
You read that rag?
It was just an example of a well known print media outlet.
Oh, and I agree with you in that the NY Times *IS* a rag.
But no, this ain't Kikeland, it's the U.S., I am in
favor of Muslims immigrating the same as any other person, but this is a
place where *everyone* is supposed to integrate and get along. People
like *you* are the ones failing in that, white supremacist.
ROTFLMAO!
Your buddy took the bait in the trap I set for him.
Just like I knew he would.
Snit never fails to entertain!
BTW, you might want to look up the meaning of Allahu Akbar.
It's not a white supremacist phrase at all.
Why must I, and others, continually need to educate you two Nimrods?
On 06/11/2025 15:54, Brock McNuggets wrote:
On Nov 6, 2025 at 8:47:58 AM MST, ""Joel W. Crump"" wrote
<Oq3PQ.266708$[email protected]>:
On 11/6/25 8:52 AM, pothead wrote:
I sincerely hope I don't see it on the front page of the NY Times with a >>>> picture of you waving a machete while screaming Allahu Akbar.Joel actually believes he is Jesus Christ. Let that sink in.
Wait till you see me go public, dumbshit.
You read that rag? But no, this ain't Kikeland,
Excuse me?
*Distribution of Jews Throughout the World*
Although Jews exist in most every country in the world, the vast
majority are concentrated in two countries: Israel and the United
States. With more than 7.4 million Jewish citizens (2023 estimate), the United States is home to more Jews than any other country in the world.
More Jews live in New York City than in any other city in the world. The
New York Metropolitan area is home to 1,728,000 Jews, roughly 10% of its total population. The borough of Brooklyn alone has nearly 800,000 Jews, which accounts for more than a third of its population. Israel is home
to just over 7.4 million Jews, as well, beind the United States by only
about 30,000 people. 74.2% of Israel’s population is Jewish. The
historic homeland of the Jews, Israel is home to the holy city of
Jerusalem, which is of great importance to those of the Jewish faith.
The next eight countries with the largest Jewish populations were
estimated to have between 440,000 and 90,500 Jews in 2023. First comes
France with 440,000, followed by Canada with 398,000, and the United
Kingdom with 312,000. Argentina, Russia, Germany, Australia, and Brazil
all have significant Jewish populations, as well.
Ref: https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/number-of-jews-in-the-world
it's the U.S., I am in
favor of Muslims immigrating the same as any other person, but this is a >>> place where *everyone* is supposed to integrate and get along. People
like *you* are the ones failing in that, white supremacist.
THAT I agree with, 100%.
Do you think that the recently elected new mayor of New York will
survive long enough to take up his post on 1 January 2026?
On Nov 6, 2025 at 9:25:42 AM MST, ""Joel W. Crump"" wrote <g_3PQ.449167$[email protected]>:
On 11/6/25 10:54 AM, Brock McNuggets wrote:
On Nov 6, 2025 at 8:47:58 AM MST, ""Joel W. Crump"" wrote
<Oq3PQ.266708$[email protected]>:
On 11/6/25 8:52 AM, pothead wrote:
I sincerely hope I don't see it on the front page of the NY Times with a >>>>> picture of you waving a machete while screaming Allahu Akbar.Joel actually believes he is Jesus Christ. Let that sink in.
Wait till you see me go public, dumbshit.
You read that rag? But no, this ain't Kikeland,
Excuse me?
I don't like being anti-Israel nor seemingly antisemitic. On an
abstract level, both are poor things to be. But something has to send
the message that what the Israeli *regime* does, going back decades and
especially in the last two years, is pure evil, they are the Nazis their
people once suffered brutally under. They support DJT, who is literally
Hitler. This cannot continue indefinitely.
I have no issue with you being bothered / offended / disgusted / repulsed by what Israel does. That is 100% fair. The anti-semitic term, though, is to me unacceptable.
it's the U.S., I am in
favor of Muslims immigrating the same as any other person, but this is a >>>> place where *everyone* is supposed to integrate and get along. People >>>> like *you* are the ones failing in that, white supremacist.
THAT I agree with, 100%.
I find it ironic that there's one Jewish member of congress, currently,
who is blatantly there to shill for Israel and little more. Really a
piece of work. Meanwhile, there are a majority of Jews in the U.S. who
are on our side, they aren't happy with the status quo, and they're
people I can work with. If they're offended by my rhetoric, I accept
that, but they should know that it's not antisemitism driving it, it's
politics.
Sanders is Jewish and is openly critical of Israel. Nothing antisemitic to denounce their actions.
Bernie is a great guy. I'd trust him with my life.
Bernie is a great guy. I'd trust him with my life.
Is he already a Muslim?
On 11/6/25 2:27 PM, David B. wrote:
Bernie is a great guy. I'd trust him with my life.
Is he already a Muslim?
I don't think he's religious.
On 11/6/25 1:32 PM, Brock McNuggets wrote:
On Nov 6, 2025 at 9:25:42 AM MST, ""Joel W. Crump"" wrote
<g_3PQ.449167$[email protected]>:
On 11/6/25 10:54 AM, Brock McNuggets wrote:
On Nov 6, 2025 at 8:47:58 AM MST, ""Joel W. Crump"" wrote
<Oq3PQ.266708$[email protected]>:
On 11/6/25 8:52 AM, pothead wrote:
I sincerely hope I don't see it on the front page of the NY Times with a >>>>>> picture of you waving a machete while screaming Allahu Akbar.Joel actually believes he is Jesus Christ. Let that sink in.
Wait till you see me go public, dumbshit.
You read that rag? But no, this ain't Kikeland,
Excuse me?
I don't like being anti-Israel nor seemingly antisemitic. On an
abstract level, both are poor things to be. But something has to send
the message that what the Israeli *regime* does, going back decades and
especially in the last two years, is pure evil, they are the Nazis their >>> people once suffered brutally under. They support DJT, who is literally >>> Hitler. This cannot continue indefinitely.
I have no issue with you being bothered / offended / disgusted / repulsed by >> what Israel does. That is 100% fair. The anti-semitic term, though, is to me >> unacceptable.
For that, I do apologize.
I should probably refrain from using the
term, at this point.
it's the U.S., I am in
favor of Muslims immigrating the same as any other person, but this is a >>>>> place where *everyone* is supposed to integrate and get along. People >>>>> like *you* are the ones failing in that, white supremacist.
THAT I agree with, 100%.
I find it ironic that there's one Jewish member of congress, currently,
who is blatantly there to shill for Israel and little more. Really a
piece of work. Meanwhile, there are a majority of Jews in the U.S. who
are on our side, they aren't happy with the status quo, and they're
people I can work with. If they're offended by my rhetoric, I accept
that, but they should know that it's not antisemitism driving it, it's
politics.
Sanders is Jewish and is openly critical of Israel. Nothing antisemitic to >> denounce their actions.
Bernie is a great guy. I'd trust him with my life.
I find it ironic that there's one Jewish member of congress, currently, >>>> who is blatantly there to shill for Israel and little more. Really a
piece of work. Meanwhile, there are a majority of Jews in the U.S. who >>>> are on our side, they aren't happy with the status quo, and they're
people I can work with. If they're offended by my rhetoric, I accept
that, but they should know that it's not antisemitism driving it, it's >>>> politics.
Sanders is Jewish and is openly critical of Israel. Nothing antisemitic to >>> denounce their actions.
Bernie is a great guy. I'd trust him with my life.
I like him. A lot. But I also do see where he has some odd comments in his past.
https://youtu.be/-oxfzabpTWY
But everyone says some weird stuff. LOL!
On 2025-11-06, Joel W. Crump <[email protected]> wrote:
On 11/5/25 6:17 PM, pothead wrote:I sincerely hope I don't see it on the front page of the NY Times with a picture of you waving a machete while screaming Allahu Akbar.
As you noticed, Alan is an Apple fanboy but he does know his stuff.
Unlike snit or Joel.
I guess that's why I just compiled Pan from source to log in to Eternal
September's server to look for a missing post that I couldn't trace as
it turned out 'cause it was a Gremlin post, who is most def killfiled
in Thunderbird.
Joel actually believes he is Jesus Christ. Let that sink in.
Wait till you see me go public, dumbshit.
On 11/6/25 5:20 PM, Brock McNuggets wrote:
I find it ironic that there's one Jewish member of congress, currently, >>>>> who is blatantly there to shill for Israel and little more. Really a >>>>> piece of work. Meanwhile, there are a majority of Jews in the U.S. who >>>>> are on our side, they aren't happy with the status quo, and they're
people I can work with. If they're offended by my rhetoric, I accept >>>>> that, but they should know that it's not antisemitism driving it, it's >>>>> politics.
Sanders is Jewish and is openly critical of Israel. Nothing antisemitic to >>>> denounce their actions.
Bernie is a great guy. I'd trust him with my life.
I like him. A lot. But I also do see where he has some odd comments in his >> past.
https://youtu.be/-oxfzabpTWY
But everyone says some weird stuff. LOL!
That is hilarious.
On 11/6/25 11:41 AM, pothead wrote:
I sincerely hope I don't see it on the front page of the NY TimesJoel actually believes he is Jesus Christ. Let that sink in.
Wait till you see me go public, dumbshit.
with a picture of you waving a machete while screaming Allahu Akbar.
You read that rag?
It was just an example of a well known print media outlet.
Oh, and I agree with you in that the NY Times *IS* a rag.
I'll be seen everywhere in the news.
But no, this ain't Kikeland, it's the U.S., I am in
favor of Muslims immigrating the same as any other person, but this is
a place where *everyone* is supposed to integrate and get along.
People like *you* are the ones failing in that, white supremacist.
ROTFLMAO!
Your buddy took the bait in the trap I set for him.
Just like I knew he would.
Snit never fails to entertain!
You "set a trap" to make it look like you were a racist?
BTW, you might want to look up the meaning of Allahu Akbar.
It's not a white supremacist phrase at all.
Why must I, and others, continually need to educate you two Nimrods?
No one said anything like that, dummy. You wrote the phrase in
reference to something I would *supposedly* say. What does that have to
do with "white supremacist" regarding yourself? "Why must I, and
others, continually need to educate" you?
On Thu, 6 Nov 2025 12:04:40 -0500, Joel W. Crump wrote:
On 11/6/25 11:41 AM, pothead wrote:
I sincerely hope I don't see it on the front page of the NY TimesJoel actually believes he is Jesus Christ. Let that sink in.
Wait till you see me go public, dumbshit.
with a picture of you waving a machete while screaming Allahu Akbar.
You read that rag?
It was just an example of a well known print media outlet.
Oh, and I agree with you in that the NY Times *IS* a rag.
I'll be seen everywhere in the news.
But no, this ain't Kikeland, it's the U.S., I am in
favor of Muslims immigrating the same as any other person, but this is >>>> a place where *everyone* is supposed to integrate and get along.
People like *you* are the ones failing in that, white supremacist.
ROTFLMAO!
Your buddy took the bait in the trap I set for him.
Just like I knew he would.
Snit never fails to entertain!
You "set a trap" to make it look like you were a racist?
Actually PotHead made you reveal that you are a racist and at the same
time made your butt hole buddy snit reveal what an ignorant son of a bitch that he is. Not that any additional proof is necessary as it seems to be
well known around these parts.
BTW, you might want to look up the meaning of Allahu Akbar.
It's not a white supremacist phrase at all.
Why must I, and others, continually need to educate you two Nimrods?
No one said anything like that, dummy. You wrote the phrase in
reference to something I would *supposedly* say. What does that have to
do with "white supremacist" regarding yourself? "Why must I, and
others, continually need to educate" you?
You seem to share the same poor reading comprehension abilities as snit.
Did you both attend the same elementary school perchance?
The reason I ask is because naturally born morons are very rare and come along only once in a while and yet here are the both of you.
Seems like an odd coincidence which certainly defies the odds.
On Thu, 6 Nov 2025 13:52:46 -0000 (UTC), pothead wrote:
On 2025-11-06, Joel W. Crump <[email protected]> wrote:
On 11/5/25 6:17 PM, pothead wrote:I sincerely hope I don't see it on the front page of the NY Times with a
As you noticed, Alan is an Apple fanboy but he does know his stuff.
Unlike snit or Joel.
I guess that's why I just compiled Pan from source to log in to Eternal
September's server to look for a missing post that I couldn't trace as
it turned out 'cause it was a Gremlin post, who is most def killfiled
in Thunderbird.
Joel actually believes he is Jesus Christ. Let that sink in.
Wait till you see me go public, dumbshit.
picture of you waving a machete while screaming Allahu Akbar.
Doubtful that will happen as Joel Crump is a card carrying racist. Just
like his asshole butt buddy snit.
On Thu, 6 Nov 2025 13:52:46 -0000 (UTC), pothead wrote:
On 2025-11-06, Joel W. Crump <[email protected]> wrote:
On 11/5/25 6:17 PM, pothead wrote:I sincerely hope I don't see it on the front page of the NY Times with a
Joel actually believes he is Jesus Christ. Let that sink in.
Wait till you see me go public, dumbshit.
picture of you waving a machete while screaming Allahu Akbar.
Doubtful that will happen as Joel Crump is a card carrying racist. Just
like his asshole butt buddy snit.
On Thu, 6 Nov 2025 12:04:40 -0500, Joel W. Crump wrote:
On 11/6/25 11:41 AM, pothead wrote:
I sincerely hope I don't see it on the front page of the NY TimesJoel actually believes he is Jesus Christ. Let that sink in.
Wait till you see me go public, dumbshit.
with a picture of you waving a machete while screaming Allahu Akbar.
You read that rag?
It was just an example of a well known print media outlet.
Oh, and I agree with you in that the NY Times *IS* a rag.
I'll be seen everywhere in the news.
But no, this ain't Kikeland, it's the U.S., I am in
favor of Muslims immigrating the same as any other person, but this is >>>> a place where *everyone* is supposed to integrate and get along.
People like *you* are the ones failing in that, white supremacist.
ROTFLMAO!
Your buddy took the bait in the trap I set for him.
Just like I knew he would.
Snit never fails to entertain!
You "set a trap" to make it look like you were a racist?
Actually PotHead made you reveal that you are a racist and at the same
time made your butt hole buddy snit reveal what an ignorant son of a bitch that he is. Not that any additional proof is necessary as it seems to be
well known around these parts.
BTW, you might want to look up the meaning of Allahu Akbar.
It's not a white supremacist phrase at all.
Why must I, and others, continually need to educate you two Nimrods?
No one said anything like that, dummy. You wrote the phrase in
reference to something I would *supposedly* say. What does that have to
do with "white supremacist" regarding yourself? "Why must I, and
others, continually need to educate" you?
You seem to share the same poor reading comprehension abilities as snit.
Did you both attend the same elementary school perchance?
The reason I ask is because naturally born morons are very rare and come along only once in a while and yet here are the both of you.
Seems like an odd coincidence which certainly defies the odds.
On 11/6/25 6:51 PM, Charlie Glock wrote:
On Thu, 6 Nov 2025 12:04:40 -0500, Joel W. Crump wrote:
On 11/6/25 11:41 AM, pothead wrote:
You read that rag?I sincerely hope I don't see it on the front page of the NY TimesJoel actually believes he is Jesus Christ. Let that sink in.
Wait till you see me go public, dumbshit.
with a picture of you waving a machete while screaming Allahu Akbar. >>>>>
It was just an example of a well known print media outlet.
Oh, and I agree with you in that the NY Times *IS* a rag.
I'll be seen everywhere in the news.
But no, this ain't Kikeland, it's the U.S., I am in
favor of Muslims immigrating the same as any other person, but this is >>>>> a place where *everyone* is supposed to integrate and get along.
People like *you* are the ones failing in that, white supremacist.
ROTFLMAO!
Your buddy took the bait in the trap I set for him.
Just like I knew he would.
Snit never fails to entertain!
You "set a trap" to make it look like you were a racist?
Actually PotHead made you reveal that you are a racist and at the same
time made your butt hole buddy snit reveal what an ignorant son of a bitch >> that he is. Not that any additional proof is necessary as it seems to be
well known around these parts.
BTW, you might want to look up the meaning of Allahu Akbar.
It's not a white supremacist phrase at all.
Why must I, and others, continually need to educate you two Nimrods?
No one said anything like that, dummy. You wrote the phrase in
reference to something I would *supposedly* say. What does that have to >>> do with "white supremacist" regarding yourself? "Why must I, and
others, continually need to educate" you?
You seem to share the same poor reading comprehension abilities as snit.
Did you both attend the same elementary school perchance?
The reason I ask is because naturally born morons are very rare and come
along only once in a while and yet here are the both of you.
Seems like an odd coincidence which certainly defies the odds.
Red pills (get you) kill(filed). Buh-bye.
On 06/11/2025 19:17, Joel W. Crump wrote:
Bernie is a great guy. I'd trust him with my life.
Is he already a Muslim?
On 2025-11-03, Stepin Fetchit <[email protected]> wrote:
Brock McNuggets <[email protected]> wrote inYou've expressed your disagreement with snit well and have clearly
news:69065f01$2$21$[email protected]:
On Nov 1, 2025 at 10:41:32 AM MST, "Stepin Fetchit" wrote
Second: Alignment with white supremacist rhetoric. From an old
post, based on those links:
-------------------------------------------------------------------
-- - * "Open borders" and "flooding the country" -- classic Great
Replacement rhetoric claiming elites import non-white migrants to
weaken America.
https://www.adl.org/resources/backgrounder/great-replacement-theory
But effectively open borders with migrants, mostly unchecked and
illegal, flooding the country is what happened under the previous
administration. Remember the caravans of migrants heading to the
U.S? Remember these people taking shelter under bridges and
overpasses?
<https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/nearly-two-thirds-of-migrants-ent
er ed-illegally-under-biden/ar-AA1AR9iC>
All of that ended when the current administration tightened up
border security. Something the previous administration said could
not be done.
<https://time.com/7307367/negative-net-migration-trump-deportations/
Assuming POTHEAD actually said what you claim she did, it still
does not make her a white supremicist because regarding the facts,
her statement is true. One can argue the numbers, however the
results are incontrovertible and confirmed by many sources.
Describing the border as "mostly unchecked" is wrong. U.S. Customs
and Border Protection has consistently reported millions of
encounters per year, meaning most migrants were detained or
processed, not ignored:
https://www.cbp.gov/newsroom/stats/southwest-land-border-encounters
Did you look at the links I posted?
Encounters along with processing is effectively caught and released
unvetted with a court date that most have no intention of showing up
at. Read the script during the encounter and your in.
It also doesn't account for the number of got-aways.
Joe Biden resumed the catch and release program which Trump ended
during his first term. >><https://oversight.house.gov/release/hearing-wrap-up-biden-
administrations-catch-and-release-operation-has-inflamed-the-raging-
crisis-at-the-southern-border%ef%bf%bc/>
The numbers speak for themselves. And many sources agree that they
are on the low side.
Have you witnessed cities overrun with migrants to the point that
there is no way they can house them?
Schools, hospitals overloaded by this.
And a cost that is in most cases astronomical and will ultimately be
paid by the taxpayers.
Has this happened under any other administration?
Clinton?
Obama?
Trump's fist term?
This mass migration is due solely to Biden's administration and him
literally inviting immigrants, illegal immigrants, into the country.
The real question is why?
Likewise, the "caravans" and temporary camps under bridges were realThat is false equivalence.
events, but they occurred under multiple administrations, not only
one.
It nothing like the massive crowds of migrants under the Joe Biden
administration.
The claim that "all of that ended" after the current administration
tightened security is also false. Border crossings remain
historically high, despite new restrictions and deportation
programs. Claims of "negative net migration" under Trump are
currently unverified, according to Time:
https://time.com/7307367/negative-net-migration-trump-deportations/
Cherry picking from the article while ignoring the other points
coupled with a classic whataboutism by dragging in the topic of
border crossings remaining historically high in order to justify your
claims, which are false. >><https://www.cbsnews.com/news/illegal-crossings-immigration-us-mexico-
southern-border-lowest-level-1970-trump-dhs/>
Watch the media shows and look for yourself. Do you see anything like
what was happening under Biden?
And the media tends to be liberal so if nothing had changed under
Trump they would be reporting it.
In short, both administrations have faced record migration
challenges, and while policy approaches differ, there is no evidence
of an "open border" nor that migration "ended."
Yet another false equivalence.
While traditionally both sides have had problems, the scale and
frequency are nowhere near the same.
* Dehumanizing immigrants -- calling them "criminals,"
"terrorists," "mental patients" mirrors far-right propaganda that
paints migrants as threats rather than people.
https://www.splcenter.org/fighting-hate/extremist-files/group/vdare
And many of them are criminals and terrorists.
Same could be said of citizens. Painting immigrants as being more
violent is false. Pothead uses white supremacist language to
dehumanize them.
A whataboutism argument. I didn't say anything about immigrants being
more violent nor did I drag citizens into the statement.
A criminal is a criminal and the second they enter the country
illegally, they have broken the law.
Pointing that out those illegals who have been caught and have
extensive criminal records, which is in the news virtually every day,
is not dehumanizing nor is it white supremacist language.
Of course they are humans
as well. So was Charles Manson, Oswald and many others but they
were also criminals.
<https://www.cbp.gov/newsroom/stats/cbp-enforcement-statistics/crimi
na l-alien-statistics> You are speaking for POTHEAD here and
assuming she is listening to the far-right propaganda as an
unchecked source of information. The facts support what she is
saying.
<https://dispatchnews.com/news/2024/dec/03/northern-border-terrorist
-r elated-arrests-soar/>
<https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/feds-prevent-6-525-known-suspecte
d- terrorists-from-entering-us/ar-AA1PmCbk>
NO facts support dehumanizing. Ever.
Once again:
Pointing that out those illegals who have been caught and have
extensive criminal records, which is in the news virtually every day,
is not dehumanizing nor is it white supremacist language.
* "Lazy grifters" vs. "hard-working taxpayers" -- Reagan-era dog
whistle that racializes poverty and casts minorities as parasites.
https://www.brookings.edu/articles/americas-welfare-myths/
That's a bit of a stretch.
Those are exact phrases she used.
You have split the paragraph I wrote in order to take my statement
out of context.
The section below belongs in context with the statement" that is a
bit of a stretch, meaning your dog whistle, white supremacist claims
against POTHEAD.
I won't speak for POTHEAD or you for that
matter, but to me it seems likely that most people realize that
immigrants are for the most part a necessity and an asset to the
U.S.
Fair.
In
fact the country was founded and built by immigrants. Prior to the
previous administration immigration was for the most part
controlled and legal although the system is a disaster and is still
a disaster that needs to be completely redone.
This is not at all true. Even under Trump's first term there were
significant issues:
https://www.cbp.gov/newsroom/stats/southwest-land-border-encounters
Another false equivalence. >><https://www.cbsnews.com/news/illegal-crossings-immigration-us-mexico-
southern-border-lowest-level-1970-trump-dhs/>
And now we have a grossly overfunded ICE which is an even BIGGER
issue.
Another whataboutism.
Nothing is perfect however the topic here isn't ICE, it's about your
accusations claiming POTHEAD is a white supremacist which so far you
have not come close to achieving.
Add to that, Trump and his crew push insane white geniside lies to
promote racist policies where people are admitted or kicked out
(even if legally here) based largely on color of skin.
With the vast number of illegal immigrants here in the U.S mistakes
will be made.
Do you have specific examples of legal citizens deported?
What you are missing is that this is not the same type of
immigration the U.S. has had in the past.
We now face cartels involved in the migrations. These are not
friendly people just looking to make some money transporting
people. They abuse, rape women and children, hang the victim's
panties in trees as trophies and so forth.
As for hardworking U.S. taxpayers, many of them are migrants
themselves and they are struggling to pay their bills, feed their
family, pay for insurance costs, housing and so forth. So why
should someone who is entering the country illegally recieve so
many free benefits from the government?
Immigrants are not eligible for SNAP and other programs. But even if
they were, so what? We as a nation focus on the pennies that go to
helping those in need as we ignore the dollars that go to helping
the rich.
Another whataboutism.
We are discussing illegal immigrants and your claims against POTHEAD
being a white supremacist.
As for SNAP, you are incorrect. >><https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2025/10/benefits-shutdown-good-time-
reassess-54-federal-benefit/>
You need to read the hotlinks to see the cites.
The minority that is the problem is not immigrants, nor transgender
folks, nor blacks, nor Jews, or Muslims. The minority that is
destroying this country are the ultra-wealthy. THAT should be our
focus. Not people in need.
Another whataboutism. The topic isn't the wealthy vs the poor.
We are discussing illegal immigrants and your claims against POTHEAD
being a white supremacist.
Who is opposing assistance to people in need?
There are plenty of legal citizens in need and massive amounts of
money are being spent on illegals.
That is wrong.
Do you think the mom and pop fruit and vegetable store owners who
are most likely migrants themselves appreciate seeing the money
being spent on illegals?
What money? ER visits? I have no issue with that.
Insurance costs, medical costs, cellphone costs, housing costs etc.
Much of which is given to illegal migrants.
Again, nothing POTHEAD is saying shows her as being a white
supremacist.
She pushes white supremacist rhetoric. Repeatedly.
You have not offered anything that confirms your claims against
POTHEAD. Vicious claims I might add.
At this point I am disconnecting from this thread because I have more
than made my point and you have not even come close to making yours.
exposed snit's lies regarding myself.
Thank you.
pothead <[email protected]> wrote in news:10eaq15$32287$[email protected]:
On 2025-11-03, Stepin Fetchit <[email protected]> wrote:
Brock McNuggets <[email protected]> wrote inYou've expressed your disagreement with snit well and have clearly
news:69065f01$2$21$[email protected]:
On Nov 1, 2025 at 10:41:32 AM MST, "Stepin Fetchit" wrote
Second: Alignment with white supremacist rhetoric. From an oldBut effectively open borders with migrants, mostly unchecked and
post, based on those links:
------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>> -- - * "Open borders" and "flooding the country" -- classic Great
Replacement rhetoric claiming elites import non-white migrants to
weaken America.
https://www.adl.org/resources/backgrounder/great-replacement-theory >>>>>
illegal, flooding the country is what happened under the previous
administration. Remember the caravans of migrants heading to the
U.S? Remember these people taking shelter under bridges and
overpasses?
<https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/nearly-two-thirds-of-migrants-enter >>>>> ed-illegally-under-biden/ar-AA1AR9iC>
All of that ended when the current administration tightened up
border security. Something the previous administration said could
not be done.
<https://time.com/7307367/negative-net-migration-trump-deportations/> >>>>> Assuming POTHEAD actually said what you claim she did, it still
does not make her a white supremicist because regarding the facts,
her statement is true. One can argue the numbers, however the
results are incontrovertible and confirmed by many sources.
Describing the border as "mostly unchecked" is wrong. U.S. Customs
and Border Protection has consistently reported millions of
encounters per year, meaning most migrants were detained or
processed, not ignored:
https://www.cbp.gov/newsroom/stats/southwest-land-border-encounters
Did you look at the links I posted?
Encounters along with processing is effectively caught and released
unvetted with a court date that most have no intention of showing up
at. Read the script during the encounter and your in.
It also doesn't account for the number of got-aways.
Joe Biden resumed the catch and release program which Trump ended
during his first term.
<https://oversight.house.gov/release/hearing-wrap-up-biden->
administrations-catch-and-release-operation-has-inflamed-the-raging-
crisis-at-the-southern-border%ef%bf%bc/>
The numbers speak for themselves. And many sources agree that they
are on the low side.
Have you witnessed cities overrun with migrants to the point that
there is no way they can house them?
Schools, hospitals overloaded by this.
And a cost that is in most cases astronomical and will ultimately be
paid by the taxpayers.
Has this happened under any other administration?
Clinton?
Obama?
Trump's fist term?
This mass migration is due solely to Biden's administration and him
literally inviting immigrants, illegal immigrants, into the country.
The real question is why?
Likewise, the "caravans" and temporary camps under bridges were realThat is false equivalence.
events, but they occurred under multiple administrations, not only
one.
It nothing like the massive crowds of migrants under the Joe Biden
administration.
The claim that "all of that ended" after the current administration
tightened security is also false. Border crossings remain
historically high, despite new restrictions and deportation
programs. Claims of "negative net migration" under Trump are
currently unverified, according to Time:
https://time.com/7307367/negative-net-migration-trump-deportations/
Cherry picking from the article while ignoring the other points
coupled with a classic whataboutism by dragging in the topic of
border crossings remaining historically high in order to justify your
claims, which are false.
<https://www.cbsnews.com/news/illegal-crossings-immigration-us-mexico-southern-border-lowest-level-1970-trump-dhs/>
Watch the media shows and look for yourself. Do you see anything like
what was happening under Biden?
And the media tends to be liberal so if nothing had changed under
Trump they would be reporting it.
In short, both administrations have faced record migration
challenges, and while policy approaches differ, there is no evidence
of an "open border" nor that migration "ended."
Yet another false equivalence.
While traditionally both sides have had problems, the scale and
frequency are nowhere near the same.
* Dehumanizing immigrants -- calling them "criminals,"And many of them are criminals and terrorists.
"terrorists," "mental patients" mirrors far-right propaganda that
paints migrants as threats rather than people.
https://www.splcenter.org/fighting-hate/extremist-files/group/vdare >>>>>
Same could be said of citizens. Painting immigrants as being more
violent is false. Pothead uses white supremacist language to
dehumanize them.
A whataboutism argument. I didn't say anything about immigrants being
more violent nor did I drag citizens into the statement.
A criminal is a criminal and the second they enter the country
illegally, they have broken the law.
Pointing that out those illegals who have been caught and have
extensive criminal records, which is in the news virtually every day,
is not dehumanizing nor is it white supremacist language.
Of course they are humans
as well. So was Charles Manson, Oswald and many others but they
were also criminals.
<https://www.cbp.gov/newsroom/stats/cbp-enforcement-statistics/crimina >>>>> l-alien-statistics> You are speaking for POTHEAD here and
assuming she is listening to the far-right propaganda as an
unchecked source of information. The facts support what she is
saying.
<https://dispatchnews.com/news/2024/dec/03/northern-border-terrorist-r >>>>> elated-arrests-soar/>
<https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/feds-prevent-6-525-known-suspected- >>>>> terrorists-from-entering-us/ar-AA1PmCbk>
NO facts support dehumanizing. Ever.
Once again:
Pointing that out those illegals who have been caught and have
extensive criminal records, which is in the news virtually every day,
is not dehumanizing nor is it white supremacist language.
* "Lazy grifters" vs. "hard-working taxpayers" -- Reagan-era dog
whistle that racializes poverty and casts minorities as parasites. >>>>>> https://www.brookings.edu/articles/americas-welfare-myths/
That's a bit of a stretch.
Those are exact phrases she used.
You have split the paragraph I wrote in order to take my statement
out of context.
The section below belongs in context with the statement" that is a
bit of a stretch, meaning your dog whistle, white supremacist claims
against POTHEAD.
I won't speak for POTHEAD or you for that
matter, but to me it seems likely that most people realize that
immigrants are for the most part a necessity and an asset to the
U.S.
Fair.
In
fact the country was founded and built by immigrants. Prior to the
previous administration immigration was for the most part
controlled and legal although the system is a disaster and is still
a disaster that needs to be completely redone.
This is not at all true. Even under Trump's first term there were
significant issues:
https://www.cbp.gov/newsroom/stats/southwest-land-border-encounters
Another false equivalence.
<https://www.cbsnews.com/news/illegal-crossings-immigration-us-mexico-southern-border-lowest-level-1970-trump-dhs/>
And now we have a grossly overfunded ICE which is an even BIGGER
issue.
Another whataboutism.
Nothing is perfect however the topic here isn't ICE, it's about your
accusations claiming POTHEAD is a white supremacist which so far you
have not come close to achieving.
Add to that, Trump and his crew push insane white geniside lies to
promote racist policies where people are admitted or kicked out
(even if legally here) based largely on color of skin.
With the vast number of illegal immigrants here in the U.S mistakes
will be made.
Do you have specific examples of legal citizens deported?
What you are missing is that this is not the same type of
immigration the U.S. has had in the past.
We now face cartels involved in the migrations. These are not
friendly people just looking to make some money transporting
people. They abuse, rape women and children, hang the victim's
panties in trees as trophies and so forth.
As for hardworking U.S. taxpayers, many of them are migrants
themselves and they are struggling to pay their bills, feed their
family, pay for insurance costs, housing and so forth. So why
should someone who is entering the country illegally recieve so
many free benefits from the government?
Immigrants are not eligible for SNAP and other programs. But even if
they were, so what? We as a nation focus on the pennies that go to
helping those in need as we ignore the dollars that go to helping
the rich.
Another whataboutism.
We are discussing illegal immigrants and your claims against POTHEAD
being a white supremacist.
As for SNAP, you are incorrect.
<https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2025/10/benefits-shutdown-good-time-reassess-54-federal-benefit/>
You need to read the hotlinks to see the cites.
The minority that is the problem is not immigrants, nor transgender
folks, nor blacks, nor Jews, or Muslims. The minority that is
destroying this country are the ultra-wealthy. THAT should be our
focus. Not people in need.
Another whataboutism. The topic isn't the wealthy vs the poor.
We are discussing illegal immigrants and your claims against POTHEAD
being a white supremacist.
Who is opposing assistance to people in need?
There are plenty of legal citizens in need and massive amounts of
money are being spent on illegals.
That is wrong.
Do you think the mom and pop fruit and vegetable store owners who
are most likely migrants themselves appreciate seeing the money
being spent on illegals?
What money? ER visits? I have no issue with that.
Insurance costs, medical costs, cellphone costs, housing costs etc.
Much of which is given to illegal migrants.
Again, nothing POTHEAD is saying shows her as being a white
supremacist.
She pushes white supremacist rhetoric. Repeatedly.
You have not offered anything that confirms your claims against
POTHEAD. Vicious claims I might add.
At this point I am disconnecting from this thread because I have more
than made my point and you have not even come close to making yours.
exposed snit's lies regarding myself.
Thank you.
You’re very welcome. My apologies for previously misspelling your name.
I’m not entirely sure what is motivating this individual, Snit, to fabricate false scenarios, but it appears he may be dealing with some underlying personal or psychological issues. His consistent refusal to acknowledge the inaccuracies in his claims, despite lacking any
supporting evidence, suggests a pattern of narcissistic behavior — one characterized by a belief in his own intellectual or moral superiority. It’s also possible that unresolved personal issues may be contributing to his behavior. While those factors aren’t necessarily his fault, his unwillingness to seek help is ultimately his responsibility.
Given this, I would recommend avoiding further interaction with him. Even well-intentioned suggestions regarding mental health treatment are likely
to provoke rather than help, as they may feed into his need for attention
and potentially worsen his behavior.
On another note, I must admit I’ve had some extra free time recently
while recovering from surgery, and I found it intellectually engaging to
look into Snit’s claims about you being a white supremacist. After reviewing the discussions, it’s clear that his accusations are entirely baseless. The progression of his assertions — from calling you a Nazi, to
a Hitler supporter, to a racist, and finally to someone who supposedly
uses “white supremacist rhetoric” — demonstrates a pattern of shifting, unsupported claims.
When pressed for concrete examples, it appears that Snit may even be
using automated tools or AI-generated text to fabricate so-called “evidence.” This approach, of course, completely fails from a logical standpoint.
To illustrate the absurdity of his reasoning:
“I enjoy playing the piano but prefer using the white keys over the black keys.”
“Oh, so you must be a racist.”
That’s essentially the level of logic being applied in his arguments — deeply flawed, overly literal, and lacking any real understanding of
context or critical reasoning.
In short, Snit’s posts reflect the reasoning of someone attempting to use logic to justify an inherently false premise, and it simply doesn’t work. Despite the frustration it causes, there is a certain fascination in observing how such a mind operates.
On 06/11/2025 11:21, Daniel70 wrote:
On 6/11/2025 2:12 am, Brock McNuggets wrote:
On Nov 5, 2025 at 4:05:16 AM MST, "Daniel70" wrote
<10efb1c$b23q$[email protected]>:
On 30/10/2025 5:46 am, Brock McNuggets wrote:
<Snip>
Daniel70... would love to have you come join us in ACWOnly got approx 54,000 messages to read .... discussions that I've read >>>> don't really impress me though!!
(alt.computer.workshop).
Sadly much is about trolls just screaming how much they hate people
who are
honest. I am their favorite target -- somehow I "lie" in ways they
cannot
quote nor point to MIDs to support. But somehow 2004 is a very
important year
you MUST know about.
Hmmm!! I've encountered "2004" somewhere hereabouts .... but don't
remember why!!
Getting better blood in the group would be good. People who ignore
their BS (I
admit I do not).
But, whilst the group is overrun with crap, I think you have bugger
all chance of reviving the group!
ACW is one of the most active groups on Usenet!
You'll be made most welcome! 🙂
Drop us a CV as a start!
On 6/11/2025 10:44 pm, David B. wrote:
On 06/11/2025 11:21, Daniel70 wrote:You'd be lucky ... bloody lucky!!
On 6/11/2025 2:12 am, Brock McNuggets wrote:
On Nov 5, 2025 at 4:05:16 AM MST, "Daniel70" wrote
<10efb1c$b23q$[email protected]>:
On 30/10/2025 5:46 am, Brock McNuggets wrote:
<Snip>
Daniel70... would love to have you come join us in ACWOnly got approx 54,000 messages to read .... discussions that I've
(alt.computer.workshop).
read
don't really impress me though!!
Sadly much is about trolls just screaming how much they hate people
who are
honest. I am their favorite target -- somehow I "lie" in ways they
cannot
quote nor point to MIDs to support. But somehow 2004 is a very
important year
you MUST know about.
Hmmm!! I've encountered "2004" somewhere hereabouts .... but don't
remember why!!
Getting better blood in the group would be good. People who ignore
their BS (I
admit I do not).
But, whilst the group is overrun with crap, I think you have bugger
all chance of reviving the group!
ACW is one of the most active groups on Usenet!
You'll be made most welcome! 🙂
Drop us a CV as a start!
On Thu, 6 Nov 2025 12:04:40 -0500, Joel W. Crump wrote:
You "set a trap" to make it look like you were a racist?
Actually PotHead made you reveal that you are a racist and at the same
time made your butt hole buddy snit reveal what an ignorant son of a bitch that he is. Not that any additional proof is necessary as it seems to be well known around these parts.
No one said anything like that, dummy. You wrote the phrase in
reference to something I would *supposedly* say. What does that have to
do with "white supremacist" regarding yourself? "Why must I, and
others, continually need to educate" you?
You seem to share the same poor reading comprehension abilities as snit.
Did you both attend the same elementary school perchance?
The reason I ask is because naturally born morons are very rare and come along only once in a while and yet here are the both of you.
Seems like an odd coincidence which certainly defies the odds.
On Nov 6, 2025 at 8:15:35�PM MST, "Stepin Fetchit" wrote <[email protected]>:Unable to read?
pothead <[email protected]> wrote in news:10eaq15$32287$[email protected]:
On 2025-11-03, Stepin Fetchit <[email protected]> wrote:
Brock McNuggets <[email protected]> wrote inYou've expressed your disagreement with snit well and have clearly
news:69065f01$2$21$[email protected]:
On Nov 1, 2025 at 10:41:32�ZAM MST, "Stepin Fetchit" wrote
Second: Alignment with white supremacist rhetoric. From an oldBut effectively open borders with migrants, mostly unchecked and
post, based on those links:
------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>> -- - * "Open borders" and "flooding the country" -- classic Great >>>>>> Replacement rhetoric claiming elites import non-white migrants to >>>>>> weaken America.
https://www.adl.org/resources/backgrounder/great-replacement-theory >>>>>
illegal, flooding the country is what happened under the previous
administration. Remember the caravans of migrants heading to the
U.S? Remember these people taking shelter under bridges and
overpasses?
<https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/nearly-two-thirds-of-migrants-enter >>>>> ed-illegally-under-biden/ar-AA1AR9iC>
All of that ended when the current administration tightened up
border security. Something the previous administration said could
not be done.
<https://time.com/7307367/negative-net-migration-trump-deportations/> >>>>> Assuming POTHEAD actually said what you claim she did, it still
does not make her a white supremicist because regarding the facts, >>>>> her statement is true. One can argue the numbers, however the
results are incontrovertible and confirmed by many sources.
Describing the border as "mostly unchecked" is wrong. U.S. Customs
and Border Protection has consistently reported millions of
encounters per year, meaning most migrants were detained or
processed, not ignored:
https://www.cbp.gov/newsroom/stats/southwest-land-border-encounters
Did you look at the links I posted?
Encounters along with processing is effectively caught and released
unvetted with a court date that most have no intention of showing up
at. Read the script during the encounter and your in.
It also doesn't account for the number of got-aways.
Joe Biden resumed the catch and release program which Trump ended
during his first term.
<https://oversight.house.gov/release/hearing-wrap-up-biden->
administrations-catch-and-release-operation-has-inflamed-the-raging-
crisis-at-the-southern-border%ef%bf%bc/>
The numbers speak for themselves. And many sources agree that they
are on the low side.
Have you witnessed cities overrun with migrants to the point that
there is no way they can house them?
Schools, hospitals overloaded by this.
And a cost that is in most cases astronomical and will ultimately be
paid by the taxpayers.
Has this happened under any other administration?
Clinton?
Obama?
Trump's fist term?
This mass migration is due solely to Biden's administration and him
literally inviting immigrants, illegal immigrants, into the country.
The real question is why?
Likewise, the "caravans" and temporary camps under bridges were real >>>> events, but they occurred under multiple administrations, not onlyThat is false equivalence.
one.
It nothing like the massive crowds of migrants under the Joe Biden
administration.
The claim that "all of that ended" after the current administration
tightened security is also false. Border crossings remain
historically high, despite new restrictions and deportation
programs. Claims of "negative net migration" under Trump are
currently unverified, according to Time:
https://time.com/7307367/negative-net-migration-trump-deportations/
Cherry picking from the article while ignoring the other points
coupled with a classic whataboutism by dragging in the topic of
border crossings remaining historically high in order to justify your
claims, which are false.
<https://www.cbsnews.com/news/illegal-crossings-immigration-us-mexico-southern-border-lowest-level-1970-trump-dhs/>
Watch the media shows and look for yourself. Do you see anything like
what was happening under Biden?
And the media tends to be liberal so if nothing had changed under
Trump they would be reporting it.
In short, both administrations have faced record migration
challenges, and while policy approaches differ, there is no evidence >>>> of an "open border" nor that migration "ended."
Yet another false equivalence.
While traditionally both sides have had problems, the scale and
frequency are nowhere near the same.
* Dehumanizing immigrants -- calling them "criminals,"And many of them are criminals and terrorists.
"terrorists," "mental patients" mirrors far-right propaganda that >>>>>> paints migrants as threats rather than people.
https://www.splcenter.org/fighting-hate/extremist-files/group/vdare >>>>>
Same could be said of citizens. Painting immigrants as being more
violent is false. Pothead uses white supremacist language to
dehumanize them.
A whataboutism argument. I didn't say anything about immigrants being
more violent nor did I drag citizens into the statement.
A criminal is a criminal and the second they enter the country
illegally, they have broken the law.
Pointing that out those illegals who have been caught and have
extensive criminal records, which is in the news virtually every day,
is not dehumanizing nor is it white supremacist language.
Of course they are humans
as well. So was Charles Manson, Oswald and many others but they
were also criminals.
<https://www.cbp.gov/newsroom/stats/cbp-enforcement-statistics/crimina >>>>> l-alien-statistics> You are speaking for POTHEAD here and
assuming she is listening to the far-right propaganda as an
unchecked source of information. The facts support what she is
saying.
<https://dispatchnews.com/news/2024/dec/03/northern-border-terrorist-r >>>>> elated-arrests-soar/>
<https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/feds-prevent-6-525-known-suspected- >>>>> terrorists-from-entering-us/ar-AA1PmCbk>
NO facts support dehumanizing. Ever.
Once again:
Pointing that out those illegals who have been caught and have
extensive criminal records, which is in the news virtually every day,
is not dehumanizing nor is it white supremacist language.
* "Lazy grifters" vs. "hard-working taxpayers" -- Reagan-era dog >>>>>> whistle that racializes poverty and casts minorities as parasites. >>>>>> https://www.brookings.edu/articles/americas-welfare-myths/
That's a bit of a stretch.
Those are exact phrases she used.
You have split the paragraph I wrote in order to take my statement
out of context.
The section below belongs in context with the statement" that is a
bit of a stretch, meaning your dog whistle, white supremacist claims
against POTHEAD.
I won't speak for POTHEAD or you for that
matter, but to me it seems likely that most people realize that
immigrants are for the most part a necessity and an asset to the
U.S.
Fair.
In
fact the country was founded and built by immigrants. Prior to the >>>>> previous administration immigration was for the most part
controlled and legal although the system is a disaster and is still >>>>> a disaster that needs to be completely redone.
This is not at all true. Even under Trump's first term there were
significant issues:
https://www.cbp.gov/newsroom/stats/southwest-land-border-encounters
Another false equivalence.
<https://www.cbsnews.com/news/illegal-crossings-immigration-us-mexico-southern-border-lowest-level-1970-trump-dhs/>
And now we have a grossly overfunded ICE which is an even BIGGER
issue.
Another whataboutism.
Nothing is perfect however the topic here isn't ICE, it's about your
accusations claiming POTHEAD is a white supremacist which so far you
have not come close to achieving.
Add to that, Trump and his crew push insane white geniside lies to
promote racist policies where people are admitted or kicked out
(even if legally here) based largely on color of skin.
With the vast number of illegal immigrants here in the U.S mistakes
will be made.
Do you have specific examples of legal citizens deported?
What you are missing is that this is not the same type of
immigration the U.S. has had in the past.
We now face cartels involved in the migrations. These are not
friendly people just looking to make some money transporting
people. They abuse, rape women and children, hang the victim's
panties in trees as trophies and so forth.
As for hardworking U.S. taxpayers, many of them are migrants
themselves and they are struggling to pay their bills, feed their
family, pay for insurance costs, housing and so forth. So why
should someone who is entering the country illegally recieve so
many free benefits from the government?
Immigrants are not eligible for SNAP and other programs. But even if >>>> they were, so what? We as a nation focus on the pennies that go to
helping those in need as we ignore the dollars that go to helping
the rich.
Another whataboutism.
We are discussing illegal immigrants and your claims against POTHEAD
being a white supremacist.
As for SNAP, you are incorrect.
<https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2025/10/benefits-shutdown-good-time-reassess-54-federal-benefit/>
You need to read the hotlinks to see the cites.
The minority that is the problem is not immigrants, nor transgender
folks, nor blacks, nor Jews, or Muslims. The minority that is
destroying this country are the ultra-wealthy. THAT should be our
focus. Not people in need.
Another whataboutism. The topic isn't the wealthy vs the poor.
We are discussing illegal immigrants and your claims against POTHEAD
being a white supremacist.
Who is opposing assistance to people in need?
There are plenty of legal citizens in need and massive amounts of
money are being spent on illegals.
That is wrong.
Do you think the mom and pop fruit and vegetable store owners who
are most likely migrants themselves appreciate seeing the money
being spent on illegals?
What money? ER visits? I have no issue with that.
Insurance costs, medical costs, cellphone costs, housing costs etc.
Much of which is given to illegal migrants.
Again, nothing POTHEAD is saying shows her as being a white
supremacist.
She pushes white supremacist rhetoric. Repeatedly.
You have not offered anything that confirms your claims against
POTHEAD. Vicious claims I might add.
At this point I am disconnecting from this thread because I have more
than made my point and you have not even come close to making yours.
exposed snit's lies regarding myself.
Thank you.
You?re very welcome. My apologies for previously misspelling your name.
I?m not entirely sure what is motivating this individual, Snit, to fabricate false scenarios, but it appears he may be dealing with some underlying personal or psychological issues. His consistent refusal to acknowledge the inaccuracies in his claims, despite lacking any
supporting evidence, suggests a pattern of narcissistic behavior ? one characterized by a belief in his own intellectual or moral superiority. It?s also possible that unresolved personal issues may be contributing to his behavior. While those factors aren?t necessarily his fault, his unwillingness to seek help is ultimately his responsibility.
Given this, I would recommend avoiding further interaction with him. Even well-intentioned suggestions regarding mental health treatment are likely to provoke rather than help, as they may feed into his need for attention and potentially worsen his behavior.
On another note, I must admit I?ve had some extra free time recently
while recovering from surgery, and I found it intellectually engaging to look into Snit?s claims about you being a white supremacist. After reviewing the discussions, it?s clear that his accusations are entirely baseless. The progression of his assertions ? from calling you a Nazi, to
a Hitler supporter, to a racist, and finally to someone who supposedly
uses ?white supremacist rhetoric? ? demonstrates a pattern of shifting, unsupported claims.
When pressed for concrete examples, it appears that Snit may even be
using automated tools or AI-generated text to fabricate so-called ?evidence.? This approach, of course, completely fails from a logical standpoint.
To illustrate the absurdity of his reasoning:
?I enjoy playing the piano but prefer using the white keys over the black keys.?
?Oh, so you must be a racist.?
That?s essentially the level of logic being applied in his arguments ? deeply flawed, overly literal, and lacking any real understanding of context or critical reasoning.
In short, Snit?s posts reflect the reasoning of someone attempting to use logic to justify an inherently false premise, and it simply doesn?t work. Despite the frustration it causes, there is a certain fascination in observing how such a mind operates.
Hmmm, lack of any MID or quote to back strong claims. Whose sock might you be?
You really are not as clever as you think you are.
If you think I made an error you would ... QUOTE THE ERROR!
And show evidence.Done.
But I bring receipts. You bring socks.
Unable to read?
Hmmm, lack of any MID or quote to back strong claims. Whose sock might you be?
Charlie Glock <[email protected]> news:690d3480$1$4160$[email protected] Thu, 06 Nov 2025 23:51:28 GMT in alt.computer.workshop, wrote:
On Thu, 6 Nov 2025 12:04:40 -0500, Joel W. Crump wrote:
You "set a trap" to make it look like you were a racist?
Actually PotHead made you reveal that you are a racist and at the same
time made your butt hole buddy snit reveal what an ignorant son of a bitch >> that he is. Not that any additional proof is necessary as it seems to be
well known around these parts.
You forgot that he also showed without any doubt whatsoever that Snit was deliberately ignoring Joels racist remarks previously. Going so far as to defend them when it was first mentioned that he had a double standard. Not that any of us actually required the reminder. :)
No one said anything like that, dummy. You wrote the phrase in
reference to something I would *supposedly* say. What does that have to >>> do with "white supremacist" regarding yourself? "Why must I, and
others, continually need to educate" you?
You seem to share the same poor reading comprehension abilities as snit.
Did you both attend the same elementary school perchance?
The reason I ask is because naturally born morons are very rare and come
along only once in a while and yet here are the both of you.
Seems like an odd coincidence which certainly defies the odds.
Perhaps it's not that - Perhaps Joels mom drank like a fish when preggo with him as well? We know Snits mom did, he's blamed his issues on her for much longer than I've known about him. Blame everyone except himself - of course - for the way he is and treats others.
I don't think he acts like this outside of usenet though. In person, he
would be missing several teeth and have gone to the ER on more than one occasion. I know had I encountered him irl and he copped the dishonest as fuck tone he has with me here I would have sent his happy ass into the ER. Some people just don't learn any other way - and we don't fuck around on jobsites. Running your mouth on one as snit does here would have resulted in a hands on approach to, forgive the pun, knock some sense into him.
I'm surprised actually that he still tries the I bring receipts routine. Maybe he really doesn't understand that when he does that - He *shows everyone* that he's not only a very dishonest individual but also that he doesn't comprehend what he reads very well if at all. David Brooks isn't actually buying it. He's just playing along because as with pcbutts and everyone else David befriended, he was using them. He once stated that Jenn and Eagle were his friends - He was *nowhere to be found* when I'd had
enough of them and took things outside of usenet with them both. He encouraged them to continue poking their sticks, but, when the shit hit the fan irl for them - He didn't step in a single time to come to their defense. He didn't even email me trying to work things out for Jenn. GM did, and, we weren't friends by then. David is going to treat Snit in the exact same manner once Snit starts to beg for it to stop - that he's learned his lesson. I guarantee you that he leaves Snit all alone to deal with me. He's done it to two others already.
Snit being the really dumb shit he is - he could fact check David and myself concerning those two people - really thinks he's free to run his mouth off about me with impunity. He isn't. I'm just extending more rope. There will
be no question why things go very bad for anyone concerning him. David
Brooks won't even be able to make up excuses or state that I went too far.
On Nov 7, 2025 at 2:30:59�PM MST, "Wilson" wrote <[email protected]>:
Unable to read?
Hmmm, lack of any MID or quote to back strong claims. Whose sock might you be?
I noted a fact. No MID or quote.
And off you run.
In article <690e8dc3$6$22$[email protected]>, [email protected] says...
On Nov 7, 2025 at 2:30:59 PM MST, "Wilson" wrote
<[email protected]>:
Unable to read?
Hmmm, lack of any MID or quote to back strong claims. Whose sock might you be?
I noted a fact. No MID or quote.
And off you run.
You claim you provide receipts yet you accuse posters of
being socks and you never present receipts to prove your
case against them.
And stop snipping and quoting out of context.
So let's make this simple, where is your proof of these
sock claims?
On Nov 7, 2025 at 5:38:04�PM MST, "Wilson" wrote <[email protected]>:
In article <690e8dc3$6$22$[email protected]>, [email protected] says...
On Nov 7, 2025 at 2:30:59 PM MST, "Wilson" wrote
<[email protected]>:
Unable to read?
Hmmm, lack of any MID or quote to back strong claims. Whose sock might you be?
I noted a fact. No MID or quote.
And off you run.
You claim you provide receipts yet you accuse posters of
being socks and you never present receipts to prove your
case against them.
And stop snipping and quoting out of context.
So let's make this simple, where is your proof of these
sock claims?
Whatever Sockboy.
In article <690e9749$1$22$[email protected]>, [email protected] says...
On Nov 7, 2025 at 5:38:04 PM MST, "Wilson" wrote
<[email protected]>:
In article <690e8dc3$6$22$[email protected]>,
[email protected] says...
On Nov 7, 2025 at 2:30:59 PM MST, "Wilson" wrote
<[email protected]>:
Unable to read?
Hmmm, lack of any MID or quote to back strong claims. Whose sock might you be?
I noted a fact. No MID or quote.
And off you run.
You claim you provide receipts yet you accuse posters of
being socks and you never present receipts to prove your
case against them.
And stop snipping and quoting out of context.
So let's make this simple, where is your proof of these
sock claims?
Whatever Sockboy.
You just proved my points.
You really are a fool snit.
On 2025-11-08, Wilson <[email protected]> wrote:
In article <690e9749$1$22$[email protected]>,The sockboy reply is snit's deflection when he is unable to address the topic with facts instead of his usual BS which has never fooled anyone.
[email protected] says...
On Nov 7, 2025 at 5:38:04 PM MST, "Wilson" wrote
<[email protected]>:
In article <690e8dc3$6$22$[email protected]>,
[email protected] says...
On Nov 7, 2025 at 2:30:59 PM MST, "Wilson" wrote
<[email protected]>:
Unable to read?
Hmmm, lack of any MID or quote to back strong claims. Whose sock might you be?
I noted a fact. No MID or quote.
And off you run.
You claim you provide receipts yet you accuse posters of
being socks and you never present receipts to prove your
case against them.
And stop snipping and quoting out of context.
So let's make this simple, where is your proof of these
sock claims?
Whatever Sockboy.
You just proved my points.
You really are a fool snit.
Snit is a short bus frequent flyer.
A true born and bred idiot.
My advice to you is to stop replying to snit while you sit back,
relax and laugh at snit like the rest of us are doing.
Snit puts on one hell of a comedy show and it's free!!
Much better than watching Kimmel who is simply not funny.
In article <690e9749$1$22$[email protected]>, [email protected] says...
On Nov 7, 2025 at 5:38:04 PM MST, "Wilson" wrote
<[email protected]>:
In article <690e8dc3$6$22$[email protected]>,
[email protected] says...
On Nov 7, 2025 at 2:30:59 PM MST, "Wilson" wrote
<[email protected]>:
Unable to read?
Hmmm, lack of any MID or quote to back strong claims. Whose sock might you be?
I noted a fact. No MID or quote.
And off you run.
You claim you provide receipts yet you accuse posters of
being socks and you never present receipts to prove your
case against them.
And stop snipping and quoting out of context.
So let's make this simple, where is your proof of these
sock claims?
Whatever Sockboy.
You just proved my points.
You really are a fool snit.
On 2025-11-08, Wilson <[email protected]> wrote:
In article <690e9749$1$22$[email protected]>,The sockboy reply is snit's deflection when he is unable to address the topic with facts instead of his usual BS which has never fooled anyone.
[email protected] says...
On Nov 7, 2025 at 5:38:04 PM MST, "Wilson" wrote
<[email protected]>:
In article <690e8dc3$6$22$[email protected]>,
[email protected] says...
On Nov 7, 2025 at 2:30:59 PM MST, "Wilson" wrote
<[email protected]>:
Unable to read?
Hmmm, lack of any MID or quote to back strong claims. Whose sock might you be?
I noted a fact. No MID or quote.
And off you run.
You claim you provide receipts yet you accuse posters of
being socks and you never present receipts to prove your
case against them.
And stop snipping and quoting out of context.
So let's make this simple, where is your proof of these
sock claims?
Whatever Sockboy.
You just proved my points.
You really are a fool snit.
Snit is a short bus frequent flyer.
A true born and bred idiot.
My advice to you is to stop replying to snit while you sit back,
relax and laugh at snit like the rest of us are doing.
Snit puts on one hell of a comedy show and it's free!!
Much better than watching Kimmel who is simply not funny.
The sockboy reply is snit's deflection when he is unable to address the
topic with facts instead of his usual BS which has never fooled anyone.
Snit is a short bus frequent flyer.
A true born and bred idiot.
My advice to you is to stop replying to snit while you sit back,
relax and laugh at snit like the rest of us are doing.
Snit puts on one hell of a comedy show and it's free!!
Much better than watching Kimmel who is simply not funny.
I note socks.
And at least I am not a white supremacist.
pothead <[email protected]> news:10em99h$290v8$[email protected] Sat, 08 Nov 2025 02:18:26 GMT in alt.computer.workshop, wrote:
The sockboy reply is snit's deflection when he is unable to address the
topic with facts instead of his usual BS which has never fooled anyone.
Snit doesn't address anything with facts. He just doubles down on his bullshit or pulls the 'whatever sockboy' line as you described.
--Snit is a short bus frequent flyer.
A true born and bred idiot.
My advice to you is to stop replying to snit while you sit back,
relax and laugh at snit like the rest of us are doing.
Snit puts on one hell of a comedy show and it's free!!
Much better than watching Kimmel who is simply not funny.
Kimmel is a blowhard. I dunno why anyone would find him amusing?
On 10/28/2025 7:53 PM, Alan wrote:
because they're inferior, obviously. Linus Torvalds got a 386
manual and worked independently, and look what that turned into.
Why couldn't Apple handle that? Because of their inferiority.
And how far did he get on his own?
That he released something that could be rounded out by the community
is an astonishing achievement,
it was something GNU was able to combine with their code to turn into
a boot-able OS. It worked. To this day, we call the product
GNU/Linux as a result. Have others contributed to the kernel? You
bet, but Linus got the initial base code done.
On 10/28/2025 9:04 PM, Alan wrote:
No, I wouldn't see that because it's false. They at worst did a
clean-room implementation of Cutler's abstract OS concept. It was not stolen. That they settled the lawsuit only says they had so much money
it wasn't worth fighting. They'd have won the legal battle, but why bother? Windows NT turned into Windows XP and Windows 7, both of which sold a lot of retail copies, big bucks for MS. Let the crybaby former employers of Cutler get their settlement.
On 2025-10-29 10:29, Joel W. Crump wrote:
On 10/29/2025 1:11 PM, Alan wrote:
But the point is that EVERY OS is the result of what has gone
before.
It might be fair to say that Torvalds used the concept of a Unix
kernel, but he didn't use source code of anyone else's.
Which is relevant... ...why?
It's not copying unless it involves source code.
False.
So an abstract concept can be patented? Oracle would love you, with
their frivolous lawsuit against Google, for the Java *concepts* being
implemented independently for Android's API.
Irrelevant.
If I paint a copy of the Mona Lisa, it's still a copy.
On 29/10/2025 12:42 pm, Joel W. Crump wrote:
On 10/28/2025 9:04 PM, Alan wrote:
<Snip>
No, I wouldn't see that because it's false. They at worst did a
clean-room implementation of Cutler's abstract OS concept. It was not
stolen. That they settled the lawsuit only says they had so much money
it wasn't worth fighting. They'd have won the legal battle, but why
bother? Windows NT turned into Windows XP and Windows 7, both of which
sold a lot of retail copies, big bucks for MS. Let the crybaby former
employers of Cutler get their settlement.
I thought Win98 and WinNT were combined into Win2000 which then became
WinXP, etc.
Or was Win2000 the target combination which wasn't met so the real combination occurred with WinXP??
No, I wouldn't see that because it's false. They at worst did a
clean-room implementation of Cutler's abstract OS concept. It was not
stolen. That they settled the lawsuit only says they had so much
money it wasn't worth fighting. They'd have won the legal battle, but
why bother? Windows NT turned into Windows XP and Windows 7, both of
which sold a lot of retail copies, big bucks for MS. Let the crybaby
former employers of Cutler get their settlement.
I thought Win98 and WinNT were combined into Win2000 which then became WinXP, etc.
Or was Win2000 the target combination which wasn't met so the real combination occurred with WinXP??
On 11/8/25 6:03 AM, Daniel70 wrote:
No, I wouldn't see that because it's false. They at worst did a
clean-room implementation of Cutler's abstract OS concept. It was not
stolen. That they settled the lawsuit only says they had so much
money it wasn't worth fighting. They'd have won the legal battle, but
why bother? Windows NT turned into Windows XP and Windows 7, both of
which sold a lot of retail copies, big bucks for MS. Let the crybaby
former employers of Cutler get their settlement.
I thought Win98 and WinNT were combined into Win2000 which then became
WinXP, etc.
Or was Win2000 the target combination which wasn't met so the real
combination occurred with WinXP??
2000 was NT 5, as XP was NT 5.1. Neither inherited any real code from
9x, though some included apps were basically the same (e.g. Notepad).
But with the advent of XP, the 3.x base was finally eliminated
altogether (98 and Me were essentially 32-bit but still limited by constraints dating back to 95 and 3.x)
On Nov 8, 2025 at 8:33:09 AM MST, ""Joel W. Crump"" wrote <VoJPQ.59004$[email protected]>:
On 11/8/25 6:03 AM, Daniel70 wrote:
No, I wouldn't see that because it's false. They at worst did a
clean-room implementation of Cutler's abstract OS concept. It was not >>>> stolen. That they settled the lawsuit only says they had so much
money it wasn't worth fighting. They'd have won the legal battle, but >>>> why bother? Windows NT turned into Windows XP and Windows 7, both of
which sold a lot of retail copies, big bucks for MS. Let the crybaby
former employers of Cutler get their settlement.
I thought Win98 and WinNT were combined into Win2000 which then became
WinXP, etc.
Or was Win2000 the target combination which wasn't met so the real
combination occurred with WinXP??
2000 was NT 5, as XP was NT 5.1. Neither inherited any real code from
9x, though some included apps were basically the same (e.g. Notepad).
But with the advent of XP, the 3.x base was finally eliminated
altogether (98 and Me were essentially 32-bit but still limited by
constraints dating back to 95 and 3.x)
The naming conventions were confusing... perhaps on purpose.
95 -> 98 -> ME
NT -> 2000
Why have your numbered line go to letters and your lettered line go to numbers?
They did merge in XP... which as you note was more tied to the NT line.
On 11/8/25 10:40 AM, Brock McNuggets wrote:
On Nov 8, 2025 at 8:33:09 AM MST, ""Joel W. Crump"" wrote
<VoJPQ.59004$[email protected]>:
On 11/8/25 6:03 AM, Daniel70 wrote:
No, I wouldn't see that because it's false. They at worst did a
clean-room implementation of Cutler's abstract OS concept. It was not >>>>> stolen. That they settled the lawsuit only says they had so much
money it wasn't worth fighting. They'd have won the legal battle, but >>>>> why bother? Windows NT turned into Windows XP and Windows 7, both of >>>>> which sold a lot of retail copies, big bucks for MS. Let the crybaby >>>>> former employers of Cutler get their settlement.
I thought Win98 and WinNT were combined into Win2000 which then became >>>> WinXP, etc.
Or was Win2000 the target combination which wasn't met so the real
combination occurred with WinXP??
2000 was NT 5, as XP was NT 5.1. Neither inherited any real code from
9x, though some included apps were basically the same (e.g. Notepad).
But with the advent of XP, the 3.x base was finally eliminated
altogether (98 and Me were essentially 32-bit but still limited by
constraints dating back to 95 and 3.x)
The naming conventions were confusing... perhaps on purpose.
95 -> 98 -> ME
NT -> 2000
Why have your numbered line go to letters and your lettered line go to
numbers?
They did merge in XP... which as you note was more tied to the NT line.
XP is Windows 2000 with features ready for the mass market. They
backported stuff into 2000, for instance, to continue supporting
machines running it. 3.x/9x/Me was jettisoned.
Brock McNuggets <[email protected]> news:690ec6ea$2$18$[email protected] Sat, 08 Nov 2025 04:28:26
GMT in alt.computer.workshop, wrote:
I note socks.
Where is your receipt to support the accusation, Michael?
And at least I am not a white supremacist.
Why do you keep trying to push this bullshit? You've already been torn to shreds over it. And why aren't you on Joels ass for his really fucked up remarks?
While you try to come up with a good reply to those questions, here's a reminder of what an AI determined concerning a website that documents the methods you use to lie:
Please analyze this website. How accurate are these claims against
Usenet snit ? http://cosmicpenguin.com/snitLieMethods.html"
[![Usenet Frequently Asked Questions (FAQs)] (https://images.openai.com/thumbnails/666eccffd0e4720b6873ef7256cc304a.jp eg)](https://www.comparitech.com/fr/usenet/faq/)
The webpage you referenced, [cosmicpenguin.com/snitLieMethods.html] (http://cosmicpenguin.com/snitLieMethods.html), presents a detailed
critique of Michael Glasser, known online as "Snit," alleging a pattern
of disruptive behavior and dishonesty in Usenet newsgroups. The document outlines various tactics purportedly employed by Snit, such as misrepresentation, evasion, and personal attacks.([Google Groups][1])
### Context and Community Feedback
The claims on the site are corroborated by numerous Usenet participants
who have documented similar behaviors over an extended period. For
instance, discussions in groups like comp.os.linux.advocacy and alt.computer.workshop highlight recurring patterns of Snit's conduct, including accusations of dishonesty and attempts to undermine other
users. These accounts suggest that the behaviors described on the Cosmic Penguin site align with broader community experiences. ([Google Groups]
[2], [Google Groups][1])
### Evaluating the Claims
While the Cosmic Penguin document provides an in-depth analysis, it's important to approach such critiques with a critical eye. The content is presented from a perspective that is clearly antagonistic toward Snit,
which may influence the tone and emphasis of the claims. However, the consistency of the behaviors described across various independent sources lends credibility to the assertions.
### Conclusion
The allegations presented on the Cosmic Penguin site appear to be
grounded in documented interactions within Usenet communities. While the site serves as a comprehensive compilation of these incidents, readers should consider the context and potential biases inherent in such a
focused critique. Engaging with a range of sources can provide a more balanced understanding of the situation.([Google Groups][1])
[1]: https://groups.google.com/g/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/c/iJE1h4m9 _uc/m/9xreK8lxAQAJ?utm_source=chatgpt.com "Re: Snit destroys another
USENET group"
[2]: https://groups.google.com/g/alt.computer.workshop/c/AVU7J_lMYmU? utm_source=chatgpt.com "Snit *The Despicable, lying, troll*"
***
This is a working link for the one it analyzed, too. In case
anyone else who doesn't? know your history and what you're really about.
<https://tinyurl.com/Snitliesmethods>
They will never get old!
On Nov 8, 2025 at 8:33:09 AM MST, ""Joel W. Crump"" wrote <VoJPQ.59004$[email protected]>:
On 11/8/25 6:03 AM, Daniel70 wrote:
No, I wouldn't see that because it's false. They at worst did a
clean-room implementation of Cutler's abstract OS concept. It was not >>>> stolen. That they settled the lawsuit only says they had so much
money it wasn't worth fighting. They'd have won the legal battle, but >>>> why bother? Windows NT turned into Windows XP and Windows 7, both of
which sold a lot of retail copies, big bucks for MS. Let the crybaby
former employers of Cutler get their settlement.
I thought Win98 and WinNT were combined into Win2000 which then became
WinXP, etc.
Or was Win2000 the target combination which wasn't met so the real
combination occurred with WinXP??
2000 was NT 5, as XP was NT 5.1. Neither inherited any real code from
9x, though some included apps were basically the same (e.g. Notepad).
But with the advent of XP, the 3.x base was finally eliminated
altogether (98 and Me were essentially 32-bit but still limited by
constraints dating back to 95 and 3.x)
The naming conventions were confusing... perhaps on purpose.
95 -> 98 -> ME
NT -> 2000
Why have your numbered line go to letters and your lettered line go to numbers?
They did merge in XP... which as you note was more tied to the NT line.
On Sat, 11/8/2025 10:40 AM, Brock McNuggets wrote:
On Nov 8, 2025 at 8:33:09 AM MST, ""Joel W. Crump"" wrote
<VoJPQ.59004$[email protected]>:
On 11/8/25 6:03 AM, Daniel70 wrote:
No, I wouldn't see that because it's false. They at worst did a
clean-room implementation of Cutler's abstract OS concept. It was not >>>>> stolen. That they settled the lawsuit only says they had so much
money it wasn't worth fighting. They'd have won the legal battle, but >>>>> why bother? Windows NT turned into Windows XP and Windows 7, both of >>>>> which sold a lot of retail copies, big bucks for MS. Let the crybaby >>>>> former employers of Cutler get their settlement.
I thought Win98 and WinNT were combined into Win2000 which then became >>>> WinXP, etc.
Or was Win2000 the target combination which wasn't met so the real
combination occurred with WinXP??
2000 was NT 5, as XP was NT 5.1. Neither inherited any real code from
9x, though some included apps were basically the same (e.g. Notepad).
But with the advent of XP, the 3.x base was finally eliminated
altogether (98 and Me were essentially 32-bit but still limited by
constraints dating back to 95 and 3.x)
The naming conventions were confusing... perhaps on purpose.
95 -> 98 -> ME
NT -> 2000
Why have your numbered line go to letters and your lettered line go to
numbers?
They did merge in XP... which as you note was more tied to the NT line.
One series Cooperative Multitasking, the other Preemptive Multitasking ?
ME is Millennium Edition.
NT is New Technology ( Preemptive Multitasking ).
The problem with Cooperative Multitasking, is the OS only
stayed up, for as long as any one application did not
come to grief. This was the era of "one crash per day".
One of my favorite ways of doing a demo on Mac, was to run
10 copies of the Earth program (a rotating globe). With Cooperative,
the rotating globes would "take turns", strongly hinting that we
weren't multitasking really.
Pre-emptive was more likely to run a developer program,
the way the developer intended. If you had 10 globes, they rotated
as directed by their internal logic. If they wanted to, they could
advance on the same clock tick.
Paul--
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