On 2025-11-01 1:09 a.m., rbowman wrote:
On Fri, 31 Oct 2025 18:38:07 -0400, CrudeSausage wrote:
It comes with Firefox so I installed Brave. Same version as I
have on the other machines but more shit than a Christmas
turkey. Brave Talk, Leo, statistics, Brave rewards, and it
doesn't seem able to search for anything.
Of all the distributions I've tried, it's the closest thing to
perfection for me.
2025-11-01 10:58 [email protected]:
On 2025-11-01 1:09 a.m., rbowman wrote:
On Fri, 31 Oct 2025 18:38:07 -0400, CrudeSausage wrote:
It comes with Firefox so I installed Brave. Same version as I
have on the other machines but more shit than a Christmas
turkey. Brave Talk, Leo, statistics, Brave rewards, and it
doesn't seem able to search for anything.
Of all the distributions I've tried, it's the closest thing to
perfection for me.
Brave is just Chromium in a trenchcoat. A trenchcoat full of cell
phones that call “phone home”. Seriously, what's the profit
strategy of this company? (Spoiler: You are the product.) They
block ads just so they can show their own ads?
They use your
computing resources for mining cryptocurrencies or some other
purpose of their own?
They observe your browsing behavior and--
sell such information to other companies? No, thanks, I'm gonna
pass such bullshit browser hypes, like Brave and Vivaldi, or even
Opera nowadays.
More independent web browser and engines are interesting though.
Pale Moon seems independent from Mozilla. Ladybird is
interesting. The development on Servo, an engine initiated by
Mozilla, that is now part of the Linux foundation, recently
published their first release - 0.0.1.[1]
But generally speaking, even good, independently developed,
privacy-friendly web browsers won't be able to rescue the pile of
shit that the web has become.[2] Even my local hackerspace decides
to shield their website with Anubis, thus requiring not only JS
but cookies too. So, Pale Moon might be good browser -- I'll try
it out for sure -- but it's not “The Browser For The Good Web”
just because there is no good web anymore, even if you know how to
browse it.[3]
[1] https://servo.org/blog/2025/10/20/servo-0.0.1-release/
[2] https://youbroketheinternet.org
[3] https://www.raptitude.com/2025/06/how-to-surf-the-web-in-2025-and-why-you-should/
2025-11-01 10:58 [email protected]:
On 2025-11-01 1:09 a.m., rbowman wrote:
On Fri, 31 Oct 2025 18:38:07 -0400, CrudeSausage wrote:
It comes with Firefox so I installed Brave. Same version as I
have on the other machines but more shit than a Christmas
turkey. Brave Talk, Leo, statistics, Brave rewards, and it
doesn't seem able to search for anything.
Of all the distributions I've tried, it's the closest thing to
perfection for me.
Brave is just Chromium in a trenchcoat. A trenchcoat full of cell
phones that call “phone home”. Seriously, what's the profit
strategy of this company? (Spoiler: You are the product.) They
block ads just so they can show their own ads? They use your
computing resources for mining cryptocurrencies or some other
purpose of their own? They observe your browsing behavior and
sell such information to other companies? No, thanks, I'm gonna
pass such bullshit browser hypes, like Brave and Vivaldi, or even
Opera nowadays.
More independent web browser and engines are interesting though.
Pale Moon seems independent from Mozilla. Ladybird is
interesting. The development on Servo, an engine initiated by
Mozilla, that is now part of the Linux foundation, recently
published their first release - 0.0.1.[1]
But generally speaking, even good, independently developed,
privacy-friendly web browsers won't be able to rescue the pile of
shit that the web has become.[2] Even my local hackerspace decides
to shield their website with Anubis, thus requiring not only JS
but cookies too. So, Pale Moon might be good browser -- I'll try
it out for sure -- but it's not “The Browser For The Good Web”
just because there is no good web anymore, even if you know how to
browse it.[3]
[1] https://servo.org/blog/2025/10/20/servo-0.0.1-release/
[2] https://youbroketheinternet.org
[3] https://www.raptitude.com/2025/06/how-to-surf-the-web-in-2025-and-why-you-should/
You're under no obligation to replace the old ads with new
ones. In fact, if you're in Canada, enabling Brave ads is
pointless because there is no cryptocurrency exchange onto which
you can dump the minuscule amount of cryptocurrency you receive
for seeing their ads anyway. With that resolved, Brave simply
becomes the most private web browser by default.
I'm keeping an eye on Ladybird, but I don't believe that it will
be ready for prime time anytime soon. Just the fact that the
usual suspects think that the developer of Ladybird is a Nazi,
for no reason, is incentive enough for me to support it.
2025-11-03 20:35 [email protected]:
You're under no obligation to replace the old ads with new
ones. In fact, if you're in Canada, enabling Brave ads is
pointless because there is no cryptocurrency exchange onto which
you can dump the minuscule amount of cryptocurrency you receive
for seeing their ads anyway. With that resolved, Brave simply
becomes the most private web browser by default.
You sound like you're suffering from something like Stockholm
syndrome. Praising this browser as ‘best’ which is developed by a company whose only profit strategy CAN be exploiting its users. I
don't have to go into detail for my argument because it's
logically inferrable from just this outermost social topology.
I'm keeping an eye on Ladybird, but I don't believe that it will
be ready for prime time anytime soon. Just the fact that the
usual suspects think that the developer of Ladybird is a Nazi,
for no reason, is incentive enough for me to support it.
Thanks for reminding. I did some quick research and there are
in fact tangible indicators for Andreas Kling's extreme-right
political views, for example:[1][2]
- Belittlement of the fascist Charlie Kirk as “debater”.
- Confirming “White males are actively discriminated against in
tech.”
Anyway, fuck fascism (...)
If I weren't about to put you in my filter, I'd ask you to
provide evidence that Brave is exploiting its users, especially
if they disable the ads. It's one thing to make a claim like you
just did, but I notice that your kind rarely has anything
concrete to point to.
Anyway, fuck fascism (...)
Snipped, unread, filtered. I have no patience for this kind of
clown anymore.
2025-11-04 08:55 [email protected]:
Snipped, unread, filtered. I have no patience for this kind of
clown anymore.
Good! I don't need people, who are unable to recognize fascism as
such or try to be neutral about it, to waste my time.
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