https://www.amazon.com/BOSGAME-E2-Channel-Computers-Ethernet/dp/ B0DKJGC1S6?th=1And the Ryzen 5 3550H is 40% slower than the A18Pro in a MacBook Neo...
BOSGAME E2 Mini PC Ryzen 5 3550H(Max 3.7GHz) DDR4 Mini Computers, 16GB
RAM 512GB NVMe SSD, Dual HDMI, 4 USB Ports, 1 RJ45 Ethernet Ports, Wi-Fi
5, BT5.0
---------------------------------------------------------------
This one has an AMD CPU, but otherwise is pretty much the same thing.
The price is $50 more than when I ordered mine, but we know why that'd
be, with the RAM shortage blah blah. Still a good value, and as far as
I can gather from the info on the page, Win11 would be preinstalled, but
it specifically offers the choice of Win10 or Linux, if you reinstall
with their instructions (or just download such the normal way, I would imagine).
On 2026-02-28 14:42, Joel W. Crump wrote:
https://www.amazon.com/BOSGAME-E2-Channel-Computers-Ethernet/dp/
B0DKJGC1S6?th=1
BOSGAME E2 Mini PC Ryzen 5 3550H(Max 3.7GHz) DDR4 Mini Computers, 16GB
RAM 512GB NVMe SSD, Dual HDMI, 4 USB Ports, 1 RJ45 Ethernet Ports, Wi-
Fi 5, BT5.0
---------------------------------------------------------------
This one has an AMD CPU, but otherwise is pretty much the same thing.
The price is $50 more than when I ordered mine, but we know why that'd
be, with the RAM shortage blah blah. Still a good value, and as far
as I can gather from the info on the page, Win11 would be
preinstalled, but it specifically offers the choice of Win10 or Linux,
if you reinstall with their instructions (or just download such the
normal way, I would imagine).
And the Ryzen 5 3550H is 40% slower than the A18Pro in a MacBook Neo...
...and a whopping 68% slower than the M4 cpu in a current Mac Mini!
On 3/8/2026 2:08 PM, Alan wrote:
On 2026-02-28 14:42, Joel W. Crump wrote:
https://www.amazon.com/BOSGAME-E2-Channel-Computers-Ethernet/dp/
B0DKJGC1S6?th=1
BOSGAME E2 Mini PC Ryzen 5 3550H(Max 3.7GHz) DDR4 Mini Computers,
16GB RAM 512GB NVMe SSD, Dual HDMI, 4 USB Ports, 1 RJ45 Ethernet
Ports, Wi- Fi 5, BT5.0
---------------------------------------------------------------
This one has an AMD CPU, but otherwise is pretty much the same thing.
The price is $50 more than when I ordered mine, but we know why
that'd be, with the RAM shortage blah blah. Still a good value, and
as far as I can gather from the info on the page, Win11 would be
preinstalled, but it specifically offers the choice of Win10 or
Linux, if you reinstall with their instructions (or just download
such the normal way, I would imagine).
And the Ryzen 5 3550H is 40% slower than the A18Pro in a MacBook Neo...
...and a whopping 68% slower than the M4 cpu in a current Mac Mini!
You're obsessing over a fact that only matters at moments of intense computation. This AMD CPU is actually a really nice touch on a mini PC like this one.You're obsessing over how much a particular component costs without
https://www.amazon.com/BOSGAME-E2-Channel-Computers-Ethernet/dp/
B0DKJGC1S6?th=1
BOSGAME E2 Mini PC Ryzen 5 3550H(Max 3.7GHz) DDR4 Mini Computers,
16GB RAM 512GB NVMe SSD, Dual HDMI, 4 USB Ports, 1 RJ45 Ethernet
Ports, Wi- Fi 5, BT5.0
---------------------------------------------------------------
This one has an AMD CPU, but otherwise is pretty much the same
thing. The price is $50 more than when I ordered mine, but we know
why that'd be, with the RAM shortage blah blah. Still a good value, >>>> and as far as I can gather from the info on the page, Win11 would be
preinstalled, but it specifically offers the choice of Win10 or
Linux, if you reinstall with their instructions (or just download
such the normal way, I would imagine).
And the Ryzen 5 3550H is 40% slower than the A18Pro in a MacBook Neo...
...and a whopping 68% slower than the M4 cpu in a current Mac Mini!
You're obsessing over a fact that only matters at moments of intense
computation. This AMD CPU is actually a really nice touch on a mini
PC like this one.
You're obsessing over how much a particular component costs without
regard to the fact that people are buying an entire device and
evaluating the value of the whole to their needs.
On 3/8/2026 2:39 PM, Alan wrote:
https://www.amazon.com/BOSGAME-E2-Channel-Computers-Ethernet/dp/
B0DKJGC1S6?th=1
BOSGAME E2 Mini PC Ryzen 5 3550H(Max 3.7GHz) DDR4 Mini Computers,
16GB RAM 512GB NVMe SSD, Dual HDMI, 4 USB Ports, 1 RJ45 Ethernet
Ports, Wi- Fi 5, BT5.0
---------------------------------------------------------------
This one has an AMD CPU, but otherwise is pretty much the same
thing. The price is $50 more than when I ordered mine, but we know
why that'd be, with the RAM shortage blah blah. Still a good
value, and as far as I can gather from the info on the page, Win11
would be preinstalled, but it specifically offers the choice of
Win10 or Linux, if you reinstall with their instructions (or just
download such the normal way, I would imagine).
And the Ryzen 5 3550H is 40% slower than the A18Pro in a MacBook Neo... >>>>
...and a whopping 68% slower than the M4 cpu in a current Mac Mini!
You're obsessing over a fact that only matters at moments of intense
computation. This AMD CPU is actually a really nice touch on a mini
PC like this one.
You're obsessing over how much a particular component costs without
regard to the fact that people are buying an entire device and
evaluating the value of the whole to their needs.
Apple is laughing at its customers.
https://www.amazon.com/BOSGAME-E2-Channel-Computers-Ethernet/dp/
B0DKJGC1S6?th=1
BOSGAME E2 Mini PC Ryzen 5 3550H(Max 3.7GHz) DDR4 Mini Computers, >>>>>> 16GB RAM 512GB NVMe SSD, Dual HDMI, 4 USB Ports, 1 RJ45 Ethernet
Ports, Wi- Fi 5, BT5.0
---------------------------------------------------------------
This one has an AMD CPU, but otherwise is pretty much the same
thing. The price is $50 more than when I ordered mine, but we know >>>>>> why that'd be, with the RAM shortage blah blah. Still a good
value, and as far as I can gather from the info on the page, Win11 >>>>>> would be preinstalled, but it specifically offers the choice of
Win10 or Linux, if you reinstall with their instructions (or just >>>>>> download such the normal way, I would imagine).
And the Ryzen 5 3550H is 40% slower than the A18Pro in a MacBook
Neo...
...and a whopping 68% slower than the M4 cpu in a current Mac Mini!
You're obsessing over a fact that only matters at moments of intense
computation. This AMD CPU is actually a really nice touch on a mini >>>> PC like this one.
You're obsessing over how much a particular component costs without
regard to the fact that people are buying an entire device and
evaluating the value of the whole to their needs.
Apple is laughing at its customers.
Apple is satisfying its customers...
...as is proven by the incredible customer loyalty they receive.
On 3/8/2026 3:28 PM, Alan wrote:
Apple is laughing at its customers.
Apple is satisfying its customers...
...as is proven by the incredible customer loyalty they receive.
It's sick that people would spend $200 on each individual hardware upgrade. I sometimes have to spend large amounts of money. I try to
keep it in the ballpark of what I could really afford.
On 3/8/2026 3:48 PM, Joel W. Crump wrote:
On 3/8/2026 3:28 PM, Alan wrote:
Apple is laughing at its customers.
Apple is satisfying its customers...
...as is proven by the incredible customer loyalty they receive.
It's sick that people would spend $200 on each individual hardware upgrade. I sometimes have to spend large amounts of money. I try
to keep it in the ballpark of what I could really afford.
There are parts of me that don't understand why I obsess over these
debates, though.
At Sun, 8 Mar 2026 16:59:57 -0400, "Joel W. Crump"
<[email protected]> wrote:
On 3/8/2026 3:48 PM, Joel W. Crump wrote:
On 3/8/2026 3:28 PM, Alan wrote:
Apple is laughing at its customers.
Apple is satisfying its customers...
...as is proven by the incredible customer loyalty they receive.
It's sick that people would spend $200 on each individual hardware
upgrade. I sometimes have to spend large amounts of money. I try
to keep it in the ballpark of what I could really afford.
There are parts of me that don't understand why I obsess over these
debates, though.
I bought one of these to run headless on an enterprise
network:
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0GJ4ZL8GR
Lenovo ThinkCentre M900 Mini PC Computer, Intel Core i5-6500T, 8GB RAM,
250GB SSD, DisplayPort, RGB Keyboard, Windows 11 Home Desktop (Renewed)
On 3/8/2026 3:28 PM, Alan wrote:
You're obsessing over a fact that only matters at moments ofhttps://www.amazon.com/BOSGAME-E2-Channel-Computers-Ethernet/dp/ >>>>>>> B0DKJGC1S6?th=1
BOSGAME E2 Mini PC Ryzen 5 3550H(Max 3.7GHz) DDR4 Mini Computers, >>>>>>> 16GB RAM 512GB NVMe SSD, Dual HDMI, 4 USB Ports, 1 RJ45 Ethernet >>>>>>> Ports, Wi- Fi 5, BT5.0
---------------------------------------------------------------
This one has an AMD CPU, but otherwise is pretty much the same
thing. The price is $50 more than when I ordered mine, but we
know why that'd be, with the RAM shortage blah blah. Still a
good value, and as far as I can gather from the info on the page, >>>>>>> Win11 would be preinstalled, but it specifically offers the
choice of Win10 or Linux, if you reinstall with their
instructions (or just download such the normal way, I would
imagine).
And the Ryzen 5 3550H is 40% slower than the A18Pro in a MacBook
Neo...
...and a whopping 68% slower than the M4 cpu in a current Mac Mini! >>>>>
intense computation. This AMD CPU is actually a really nice touch >>>>> on a mini PC like this one.
You're obsessing over how much a particular component costs without
regard to the fact that people are buying an entire device and
evaluating the value of the whole to their needs.
Apple is laughing at its customers.
Apple is satisfying its customers...
...as is proven by the incredible customer loyalty they receive.
It's sick that people would spend $200 on each individual hardware upgrade. I sometimes have to spend large amounts of money. I try toPeople buy things that they find worth the cost they need to pay.
keep it in the ballpark of what I could really afford.
It's sick that people would spend $200 on each individual hardware
upgrade. I sometimes have to spend large amounts of money. I try to
keep it in the ballpark of what I could really afford.
People buy things that they find worth the cost they need to pay.
Does Apple charge a lot for upgrading from 256GB to 512GB?
Absolutely.
So what?
Apple's customers look at the value of a WHOLE SYSTEM to them.
On 3/8/2026 7:39 PM, Alan wrote:
It's sick that people would spend $200 on each individual hardware
upgrade. I sometimes have to spend large amounts of money. I try to >>> keep it in the ballpark of what I could really afford.
People buy things that they find worth the cost they need to pay.
Does Apple charge a lot for upgrading from 256GB to 512GB?
Absolutely.
So what?
Apple's customers look at the value of a WHOLE SYSTEM to them.
The $800 price is too high, Alan.
On 3/8/2026 7:39 PM, Alan wrote:
It's sick that people would spend $200 on each individual hardware
upgrade. I sometimes have to spend large amounts of money. I try to >>> keep it in the ballpark of what I could really afford.
People buy things that they find worth the cost they need to pay.
Does Apple charge a lot for upgrading from 256GB to 512GB?
Absolutely.
So what?
Apple's customers look at the value of a WHOLE SYSTEM to them.
The $800 price is too high, Alan.All the people happily purchasing them (because the overall system gives
On 2026-03-08, Joel W. Crump <[email protected]> wrote:
On 3/8/2026 7:39 PM, Alan wrote:*To you*.
It's sick that people would spend $200 on each individual hardware
upgrade. I sometimes have to spend large amounts of money. I try to >>>> keep it in the ballpark of what I could really afford.
People buy things that they find worth the cost they need to pay.
Does Apple charge a lot for upgrading from 256GB to 512GB?
Absolutely.
So what?
Apple's customers look at the value of a WHOLE SYSTEM to them.
The $800 price is too high, Alan.
For some people, anything under $50K is a cash purchase. Some seem to
need to finance things that cost $600.
Different strokes for different purchasing power.
At Sun, 8 Mar 2026 16:59:57 -0400, "Joel W. Crump"
<[email protected]> wrote:
On 3/8/2026 3:48 PM, Joel W. Crump wrote:
On 3/8/2026 3:28 PM, Alan wrote:
Apple is laughing at its customers.
Apple is satisfying its customers...
...as is proven by the incredible customer loyalty they receive.
It's sick that people would spend $200 on each individual hardware
upgrade. I sometimes have to spend large amounts of money. I try
to keep it in the ballpark of what I could really afford.
There are parts of me that don't understand why I obsess over these
debates, though.
I bought one of these to run headless on an enterprise
network:
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0GJ4ZL8GR
Lenovo ThinkCentre M900 Mini PC Computer, Intel Core i5-6500T, 8GB RAM,
250GB SSD, DisplayPort, RGB Keyboard, Windows 11 Home Desktop (Renewed)
On Mon, 9 Mar 2026 00:52:52 -0000 (UTC), Adison Vohn Caterson wrote:
On 2026-03-08, Joel W. Crump <[email protected]> wrote:
On 3/8/2026 7:39 PM, Alan wrote:*To you*.
It's sick that people would spend $200 on each individual hardware
upgrade. I sometimes have to spend large amounts of money. I try to >>>>> keep it in the ballpark of what I could really afford.
People buy things that they find worth the cost they need to pay.
Does Apple charge a lot for upgrading from 256GB to 512GB?
Absolutely.
So what?
Apple's customers look at the value of a WHOLE SYSTEM to them.
The $800 price is too high, Alan.
For some people, anything under $50K is a cash purchase. Some seem to
need to finance things that cost $600.
Different strokes for different purchasing power.
My Samsung A16 certainly wasn't in that class but for people dropping
$1000+ for a phone, $600 is chump change. Of course, the Neo is a really
big phone when you get down to the specs.
Personally I already have too many laptops and $600 to mess around with an OS I'm not familiar with is a no sale. It would be more attractive if
Asahi Linux wasn't so rough around the edges.
We'll see.
It's sick that people would spend $200 on each individual hardware
upgrade. I sometimes have to spend large amounts of money. I try
to keep it in the ballpark of what I could really afford.
People buy things that they find worth the cost they need to pay.
Does Apple charge a lot for upgrading from 256GB to 512GB?
Absolutely.
So what?
Apple's customers look at the value of a WHOLE SYSTEM to them.
The $800 price is too high, Alan.
All the people happily purchasing them (because the overall system gives them what they need) would like to disagree.
And you still haven't shown you can buy a computer as capable for "far less".
But never say never.
On Mon, 9 Mar 2026 12:29:31 -0000 (UTC), Adison Vohn Caterson wrote:
But never say never.
Fun fact: you can’t say “never say never” without saying “never” ...
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