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This article on first impressions of the new Framework 13 Pro laptop <https://www.zdnet.com/article/framework-laptop-13-pro-macbook-pro-for-linux-users/>
includes one interesting titbit among its comments:

It's priced accordingly, starting at $1,199 for the DIY version,
$1,499 for the pre-built with Ubuntu, or $1,699 for the pre-built
with Windows.

In other words, it’s US$200 extra for the cost of Microsoft Windows.

I’m sure lots of loyal Microsoft fans will consider that value for
money ...

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(Sorry, couldn’t keep a straight face.)
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On 4/22/2026 7:42 PM, Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote:

This article on first impressions of the new Framework 13 Pro laptop <https://www.zdnet.com/article/framework-laptop-13-pro-macbook-pro-for-linux-users/>
includes one interesting titbit among its comments:

It's priced accordingly, starting at $1,199 for the DIY version,
$1,499 for the pre-built with Ubuntu, or $1,699 for the pre-built
with Windows.

In other words, it’s US$200 extra for the cost of Microsoft Windows.

I’m sure lots of loyal Microsoft fans will consider that value for
money ...

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(Sorry, couldn’t keep a straight face.)

$200 is reasonable for an OS. I paid that to have a retail license,
instead of the provided gray-market one.
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Joel W. Crump
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On Wed, 22 Apr 2026 20:00:43 -0400, Joel W. Crump wrote:

$200 is reasonable for an OS. I paid that to have a retail license,
instead of the provided gray-market one.

Which OS is specifically marketed to the gay market? I've never heard of that.
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On 4/22/2026 8:48 PM, CtrlAltDel wrote:

$200 is reasonable for an OS. I paid that to have a retail license,
instead of the provided gray-market one.

Which OS is specifically marketed to the gay market? I've never heard of that.

Gray, not gay. The maker of my new PC obtained the Win11 Pro license by
using activation intended for something other than what they're selling, Microsoft would probably tolerate it but I have no problem overriding it
with a retail license.
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On 2026-04-23, Joel W. Crump <[email protected]> wrote:

On 4/22/2026 7:42 PM, Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote:

This article on first impressions of the new Framework 13 Pro laptop
<https://www.zdnet.com/article/framework-laptop-13-pro-macbook-pro-for-linux-users/>
includes one interesting titbit among its comments:

It's priced accordingly, starting at $1,199 for the DIY version,
$1,499 for the pre-built with Ubuntu, or $1,699 for the pre-built
with Windows.

In other words, it’s US$200 extra for the cost of Microsoft Windows.

I’m sure lots of loyal Microsoft fans will consider that value for
money ...

[...]

(Sorry, couldn’t keep a straight face.)

$200 is reasonable for an OS. I paid that to have a retail license,
instead of the provided gray-market one.

I agree. People forgot how expensive software used to be. I remember
paying $80 AUD for Quake in 1997.

Today, people would think that is expensive, for a game which had 10x
the number of people working on it.

Office software used to be a 3 digit price
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Borax Man wrote this screed in ALL-CAPS:

["Followup-To:" header set to comp.os.linux.advocacy.]
On 2026-04-23, Joel W. Crump <[email protected]> wrote:

On 4/22/2026 7:42 PM, Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote:

This article on first impressions of the new Framework 13 Pro laptop
<https://www.zdnet.com/article/framework-laptop-13-pro-macbook-pro-for-linux-users/>
includes one interesting titbit among its comments:

It's priced accordingly, starting at $1,199 for the DIY version,
$1,499 for the pre-built with Ubuntu, or $1,699 for the pre-built
with Windows.

In other words, it’s US$200 extra for the cost of Microsoft Windows.

I’m sure lots of loyal Microsoft fans will consider that value for
money ...

(Sorry, couldn’t keep a straight face.)

$200 is reasonable for an OS. I paid that to have a retail license,
instead of the provided gray-market one.

I agree. People forgot how expensive software used to be. I remember
paying $80 AUD for Quake in 1997.

Today, people would think that is expensive, for a game which had 10x
the number of people working on it.

Office software used to be a 3 digit price

<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W2zieIabhm8>

How much software would you like to buy? - Cardboard Mr. Hogan #1

<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8BMN_mq1gGM>

How much software would you like to buy? - Cardboard Mr. Hogan #2
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On Thu, 23 Apr 2026 13:14:36 -0000 (UTC), Borax Man wrote:

I agree. People forgot how expensive software used to be. I remember
paying $80 AUD for Quake in 1997.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brief_(text_editor)

$195 in 1985 for a programming editor. It was worth it at the time but certainly wasn't like the free VS Code IDE. Adjusting for inflation, that
wuld be around $600 today.

For that matter I paid $1795 in 1981.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Osborne_1

That would be $6500 now. Unlike Quake, I could deduct both of those as a business expense.


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rbowman wrote:

Borax Man wrote:

I agree. People forgot how expensive software used to be. I remember
paying $80 AUD for Quake in 1997.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brief_(text_editor)

$195 in 1985 for a programming editor. It was worth it at the time but >certainly wasn't like the free VS Code IDE. Adjusting for inflation, that >wuld be around $600 today.

FOSS has helped massively to reduce the cost of computer for everyone.
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On 4/23/2026 7:26 PM, chrisv wrote:

FOSS has helped massively to reduce the cost of computer for everyone.

DING! DING! DING!

This is a shitv "intellectual superiority" alert.

Be on the lookout for his "superior intellect" to guide you through the English language, computer programming, and hardware choices.



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On 4/23/2026 11:22 PM, DFS wrote:

On 4/23/2026 7:26 PM, chrisv wrote:

FOSS has helped massively to reduce the cost of computer for everyone.

DING! DING! DING!

This is a shitv "intellectual superiority" alert.

Be on the lookout for his "superior intellect" to guide you through the English language, computer programming, and hardware choices.

Until it comes time for there to be evidence to support the anti-MS accusations, when it's just obvious that he's right, no need for
evidence, I'm a kook for demanding it, heh.
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On 2026-04-23, rbowman <[email protected]> wrote:

On Thu, 23 Apr 2026 13:14:36 -0000 (UTC), Borax Man wrote:

I agree. People forgot how expensive software used to be. I remember
paying $80 AUD for Quake in 1997.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brief_(text_editor)

$195 in 1985 for a programming editor. It was worth it at the time but certainly wasn't like the free VS Code IDE. Adjusting for inflation, that wuld be around $600 today.

For that matter I paid $1795 in 1981.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Osborne_1

That would be $6500 now. Unlike Quake, I could deduct both of those as a business expense.

Hardware was expensive too. My first hard drive (for my "Kaypro" PC — Taiwan generic with a Kaypro label) was 40 MBs (not GBs) and cost $240 on sale at Radio Shack. 5-1/4" RLL I think. It was slow but I made it even slower by using the disk doubler that came with DR DOS.
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On 2026-04-23, rbowman <[email protected]> wrote:

On Thu, 23 Apr 2026 13:14:36 -0000 (UTC), Borax Man wrote:

I agree. People forgot how expensive software used to be. I remember
paying $80 AUD for Quake in 1997.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brief_(text_editor)

$195 in 1985 for a programming editor. It was worth it at the time but certainly wasn't like the free VS Code IDE. Adjusting for inflation, that wuld be around $600 today.

For that matter I paid $1795 in 1981.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Osborne_1

That would be $6500 now. Unlike Quake, I could deduct both of those as a business expense.

I remember my uncle telling me back in 1990 I think, of a computer he
was buying ,that had not 1 not 2, but 4 MB of RAM. I think it was about
$4,000 if I recall correctly. It was a 386. Even in late 1993 I was considering working to save $1,500 for a 386 then.

Yes, it is amazing how cheap computers have gotten, except for perhaps
RAM these days.
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On Sat, 25 Apr 2026 12:50:53 -0000 (UTC), Borax Man wrote:

I remember my uncle telling me back in 1990 I think, of a computer he
was buying ,that had not 1 not 2, but 4 MB of RAM. I think it was about $4,000 if I recall correctly. It was a 386. Even in late 1993 I was considering working to save $1,500 for a 386 then.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_Personal_Computer_AT


I had a no-name clone but I can't remember what I paid for it. It had the super special Turbo toggle that injected a little adrenaline into the 286. Like a lot of clones of that era leaving the case open allowed the heat to escape.

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On Sat, 25 Apr 2026 08:34:02 -0000 (UTC), RonB wrote:

Hardware was expensive too. My first hard drive (for my "Kaypro" PC — Taiwan generic with a Kaypro label) was 40 MBs (not GBs) and cost $240
on sale at Radio Shack. 5-1/4" RLL I think. It was slow but I made it
even slower by using the disk doubler that came with DR DOS.

I never had a hard drive for either the Obsorne 1 or the Osborne
Exucutives I later bought. Osborne died before the IBM clone era.

I do remember getting a 10 MB drive for a desktop AT clone. What will I
ever do with all that storage?

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