• =?UTF-8?Q?Re=3A_Office_2019_For_Mac_Won=E2=80=99t_Work_Any_More?=

    From CrudeSausage@[email protected] to comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy on Sat Jun 13 16:48:34 2026
    From Newsgroup: comp.os.linux.advocacy

    On 2026-06-12 8:16 p.m., Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote:
    On Fri, 12 Jun 2026 08:13:03 -0400, Tom Elam wrote:

    On 6/10/26 11:16 PM, Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote:

    Just to be clear, this isn’t cloud-based rentware: this is software
    where users thought they were paying a one-time price for lifetime
    ownership. You know, how software used to be sold in the old days.

    But no. Microsoft is disabling the software that these users
    supposedly own. They won’t be able to use it any more.

    <https://www.theverge.com/news/947518/microsoft-office-2019-for-mac-end-of-support-no-edit>

    It has never been the case that standalone Office versions were
    perpetually functional. At some point older version file formats
    became unreadable to new versions and updates ceased.

    But you never lost the ability to use your old version to continue
    working with your old documents, did you?

    Well, now it’s happened.

    Anyone who cares about being able to read the document they produce ten
    or twenty years in the future should not bother with Office Open XML.
    Everyone should use OpenDocument going forward.
    --
    CrudeSausage
    M4 MacBook Air
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  • From Tom Elam@[email protected] to comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy on Sun Jun 14 13:23:27 2026
    From Newsgroup: comp.os.linux.advocacy

    On 6/12/26 8:16 PM, Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote:
    On Fri, 12 Jun 2026 08:13:03 -0400, Tom Elam wrote:

    On 6/10/26 11:16 PM, Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote:

    Just to be clear, this isn’t cloud-based rentware: this is software
    where users thought they were paying a one-time price for lifetime
    ownership. You know, how software used to be sold in the old days.

    But no. Microsoft is disabling the software that these users
    supposedly own. They won’t be able to use it any more.

    <https://www.theverge.com/news/947518/microsoft-office-2019-for-mac-end-of-support-no-edit>

    It has never been the case that standalone Office versions were
    perpetually functional. At some point older version file formats
    became unreadable to new versions and updates ceased.

    But you never lost the ability to use your old version to continue
    working with your old documents, did you?

    Well, now it’s happened.

    No, but they could not open all documents (think *.xlx) from much later versions. Important if you collaborate with others.
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  • From Tom Elam@[email protected] to comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy on Sun Jun 14 13:24:45 2026
    From Newsgroup: comp.os.linux.advocacy

    On 6/14/26 1:23 PM, Tom Elam wrote:
    On 6/12/26 8:16 PM, Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote:
    On Fri, 12 Jun 2026 08:13:03 -0400, Tom Elam wrote:

    On 6/10/26 11:16 PM, Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote:

    Just to be clear, this isn’t cloud-based rentware: this is software
    where users thought they were paying a one-time price for lifetime
    ownership. You know, how software used to be sold in the old days.

    But no. Microsoft is disabling the software that these users
    supposedly own. They won’t be able to use it any more.

    <https://www.theverge.com/news/947518/microsoft-office-2019-for-mac-
    end-of-support-no-edit>

    It has never been the case that standalone Office versions were
    perpetually functional. At some point older version file formats
    became unreadable to new versions and updates ceased.

    But you never lost the ability to use your old version to continue
    working with your old documents, did you?

    Well, now it’s happened.

    No, but they could not open all documents (think *.xlx) from much later versions. Important if you collaborate with others.

    Oops, *.xlsx
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  • From Lawrence =?iso-8859-13?q?D=FFOliveiro?=@[email protected] to comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy on Mon Jun 15 00:06:08 2026
    From Newsgroup: comp.os.linux.advocacy

    On Sun, 14 Jun 2026 13:23:27 -0400, Tom Elam wrote:

    On 6/12/26 8:16 PM, Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote:

    On Fri, 12 Jun 2026 08:13:03 -0400, Tom Elam wrote:

    On 6/10/26 11:16 PM, Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote:

    Just to be clear, this isn’t cloud-based rentware: this is
    software where users thought they were paying a one-time price
    for lifetime ownership. You know, how software used to be sold in
    the old days.

    But no. Microsoft is disabling the software that these users
    supposedly own. They won’t be able to use it any more.

    <https://www.theverge.com/news/947518/microsoft-office-2019-for-mac-end-of-support-no-edit>

    It has never been the case that standalone Office versions were
    perpetually functional. At some point older version file formats
    became unreadable to new versions and updates ceased.

    But you never lost the ability to use your old version to continue
    working with your old documents, did you?

    Well, now it’s happened.

    No, but they could not open all documents (think *.xlx) from much
    later versions. Important if you collaborate with others.

    You seem to think that’s the only way, or the only important way, to
    use an office suite.
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  • From WolfFan@[email protected] to comp.os.linux.advocacy, comp.sys.mac.advocacy on Tue Jun 16 08:08:09 2026
    From Newsgroup: comp.os.linux.advocacy

    On Jun 14, 2026, Tom Elam wrote
    (in article <110mo2f$3pdtl$[email protected]>):

    On 6/12/26 8:16 PM, Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote:
    On Fri, 12 Jun 2026 08:13:03 -0400, Tom Elam wrote:

    On 6/10/26 11:16 PM, Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote:

    Just to be clear, this isn’t cloud-based rentware: this is software where users thought they were paying a one-time price for lifetime ownership. You know, how software used to be sold in the old days.

    But no. Microsoft is disabling the software that these users
    supposedly own. They won’t be able to use it any more.

    <https://www.theverge.com/news/947518/microsoft-office-2019-for-mac-end-of
    -support-no-edit>

    It has never been the case that standalone Office versions were perpetually functional. At some point older version file formats
    became unreadable to new versions and updates ceased.

    But you never lost the ability to use your old version to continue
    working with your old documents, did you?

    Well, now it’s happened.

    No, but they could not open all documents (think *.xlx) from much later versions. Important if you collaborate with others.

    Word/Excel/Powerpoint still read/write DOC, RTF, XLS, and PPT. Until MS turns that off. And, oh, they explicitly only handle those formats from Office 97 forwards; older versions, same extensions (exception: RTF hasn’t changed) had different formats which are NOT supported. I alwasys found it funny that AppleWorks could read Word files that Word couldn’t. If you’re ‘collaborating’ with people using older versions of MS Office, save the file in the old format. Simple. Note that MS once provided an extension for Office 2003 which allowed it to read the Office 2007 formats. This extension has since vanished from MS’s site. Gee. I wonder why.

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  • From Tom Elam@[email protected] to comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy on Tue Jun 16 14:38:53 2026
    From Newsgroup: comp.os.linux.advocacy

    On 6/14/26 8:06 PM, Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote:
    On Sun, 14 Jun 2026 13:23:27 -0400, Tom Elam wrote:

    On 6/12/26 8:16 PM, Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote:

    On Fri, 12 Jun 2026 08:13:03 -0400, Tom Elam wrote:

    On 6/10/26 11:16 PM, Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote:

    Just to be clear, this isn’t cloud-based rentware: this is
    software where users thought they were paying a one-time price
    for lifetime ownership. You know, how software used to be sold in
    the old days.

    But no. Microsoft is disabling the software that these users
    supposedly own. They won’t be able to use it any more.

    <https://www.theverge.com/news/947518/microsoft-office-2019-for-mac-end-of-support-no-edit>

    It has never been the case that standalone Office versions were
    perpetually functional. At some point older version file formats
    became unreadable to new versions and updates ceased.

    But you never lost the ability to use your old version to continue
    working with your old documents, did you?

    Well, now it’s happened.

    No, but they could not open all documents (think *.xlx) from much
    later versions. Important if you collaborate with others.

    You seem to think that’s the only way, or the only important way, to
    use an office suite.

    In my consulting business I had to work with Excel, Word and PowerPoint documents sent to and received from numerous client on both Windows and
    Apple platforms. Compatibility was very important to that business.
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  • From Lawrence =?iso-8859-13?q?D=FFOliveiro?=@[email protected] to comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy on Wed Jun 17 02:54:33 2026
    From Newsgroup: comp.os.linux.advocacy

    On Tue, 16 Jun 2026 14:38:53 -0400, Tom Elam wrote:

    On 6/14/26 8:06 PM, Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote:

    You seem to think that’s the only way, or the only important way,
    to use an office suite.

    In my consulting business I had to work with Excel, Word and
    PowerPoint documents sent to and received from numerous client on
    both Windows and Apple platforms. Compatibility was very important
    to that business.

    And here I thought you were an Apple apologist, not a Microsoft
    apologist. But you can’t be one without the other, can you?
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