• AMD Taunts =?UTF-8?B?QXBwbGXigJlz?= MacBook Neo Over Gaming

    From Lawrence =?iso-8859-13?q?D=FFOliveiro?=@[email protected] to comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy on Mon Jun 15 00:00:50 2026
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    Are Mac users really less fun-loving than those on other platforms? I
    find that hard to believe somehow.

    <https://www.tomshardware.com/laptops/macbooks/amd-taunts-apples-macbook-neo-for-failing-to-run-75-percent-of-top-pc-games-only-5-out-of-the-20-top-pc-games-work-on-the-neo-while-all-run-on-amds-budget-offerings>

    Of course, Linux can probably run most if not all of the same games --
    and it doesn’t need special versions like the Mac, it can run the
    Windows versions. So maybe once someone figures out how to run Linux
    on the Neo, it might become a decent machine ...
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  • From Alan@[email protected] to comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy on Mon Jun 15 07:36:26 2026
    From Newsgroup: comp.os.linux.advocacy

    On 2026-06-14 17:00, Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote:
    Are Mac users really less fun-loving than those on other platforms? I
    find that hard to believe somehow.

    <https://www.tomshardware.com/laptops/macbooks/amd-taunts-apples-macbook-neo-for-failing-to-run-75-percent-of-top-pc-games-only-5-out-of-the-20-top-pc-games-work-on-the-neo-while-all-run-on-amds-budget-offerings>

    Of course, Linux can probably run most if not all of the same games --
    and it doesn’t need special versions like the Mac, it can run the
    Windows versions. So maybe once someone figures out how to run Linux
    on the Neo, it might become a decent machine ...

    Really?

    And how DOES linux run the Windows versions of games, exactly?
    --- Synchronet 3.22a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From Joel W. Crump@[email protected] to comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy on Mon Jun 15 12:39:38 2026
    From Newsgroup: comp.os.linux.advocacy

    On 6/14/2026 8:00 PM, Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote:

    Are Mac users really less fun-loving than those on other platforms? I
    find that hard to believe somehow.

    <https://www.tomshardware.com/laptops/macbooks/amd-taunts-apples-macbook-neo-for-failing-to-run-75-percent-of-top-pc-games-only-5-out-of-the-20-top-pc-games-work-on-the-neo-while-all-run-on-amds-budget-offerings>

    Of course, Linux can probably run most if not all of the same games --
    and it doesn’t need special versions like the Mac, it can run the
    Windows versions. So maybe once someone figures out how to run Linux
    on the Neo, it might become a decent machine ...


    The Neo is a great choice if one wants macOS, as it goes with Apple's products. I just don't buy their crapware, it has no value to me, it's
    less than nothing.
    --
    Joel W. Crump

    86 47
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  • From Alan@[email protected] to comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy on Mon Jun 15 12:10:35 2026
    From Newsgroup: comp.os.linux.advocacy

    On 2026-06-15 09:39, Joel W. Crump wrote:
    On 6/14/2026 8:00 PM, Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote:

    Are Mac users really less fun-loving than those on other platforms? I
    find that hard to believe somehow.

    <https://www.tomshardware.com/laptops/macbooks/amd-taunts-apples-
    macbook-neo-for-failing-to-run-75-percent-of-top-pc-games-only-5-out-
    of-the-20-top-pc-games-work-on-the-neo-while-all-run-on-amds-budget-
    offerings>

    Of course, Linux can probably run most if not all of the same games --
    and it doesn’t need special versions like the Mac, it can run the
    Windows versions. So maybe once someone figures out how to run Linux
    on the Neo, it might become a decent machine ...


    The Neo is a great choice if one wants macOS, as it goes with Apple's products.  I just don't buy their crapware, it has no value to me, it's less than nothing.


    And yet you're so triggered by them, you had to reply to tell us all how little you care.
    --- Synchronet 3.22a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From Joel W. Crump@[email protected] to comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy on Mon Jun 15 15:22:31 2026
    From Newsgroup: comp.os.linux.advocacy

    On 6/15/2026 3:10 PM, Alan wrote:
    On 2026-06-15 09:39, Joel W. Crump wrote:
    On 6/14/2026 8:00 PM, Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote:

    Are Mac users really less fun-loving than those on other platforms? I
    find that hard to believe somehow.

    <https://www.tomshardware.com/laptops/macbooks/amd-taunts-apples-
    macbook-neo-for-failing-to-run-75-percent-of-top-pc-games-only-5-out-
    of-the-20-top-pc-games-work-on-the-neo-while-all-run-on-amds-budget-
    offerings>

    Of course, Linux can probably run most if not all of the same games --
    and it doesn’t need special versions like the Mac, it can run the
    Windows versions. So maybe once someone figures out how to run Linux
    on the Neo, it might become a decent machine ...

    The Neo is a great choice if one wants macOS, as it goes with Apple's
    products.  I just don't buy their crapware, it has no value to me,
    it's less than nothing.

    And yet you're so triggered by them, you had to reply to tell us all how little you care.


    Frankly, yes, I am triggered, it irks the shit out of me that morons
    think they have to pay through the nose for a mediocre product. But
    then again, their minds are simply broken.
    --
    Joel W. Crump

    86 47
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  • From Alan@[email protected] to comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy on Mon Jun 15 15:15:55 2026
    From Newsgroup: comp.os.linux.advocacy

    On 2026-06-15 12:22, Joel W. Crump wrote:
    On 6/15/2026 3:10 PM, Alan wrote:
    On 2026-06-15 09:39, Joel W. Crump wrote:
    On 6/14/2026 8:00 PM, Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote:

    Are Mac users really less fun-loving than those on other platforms? I
    find that hard to believe somehow.

    <https://www.tomshardware.com/laptops/macbooks/amd-taunts-apples-
    macbook-neo-for-failing-to-run-75-percent-of-top-pc-games-only-5-
    out- of-the-20-top-pc-games-work-on-the-neo-while-all-run-on-amds-
    budget- offerings>

    Of course, Linux can probably run most if not all of the same games -- >>>> and it doesn’t need special versions like the Mac, it can run the
    Windows versions. So maybe once someone figures out how to run Linux
    on the Neo, it might become a decent machine ...

    The Neo is a great choice if one wants macOS, as it goes with Apple's
    products.  I just don't buy their crapware, it has no value to me,
    it's less than nothing.

    And yet you're so triggered by them, you had to reply to tell us all
    how little you care.


    Frankly, yes, I am triggered, it irks the shit out of me that morons
    think they have to pay through the nose for a mediocre product.  But
    then again, their minds are simply broken.


    Except it's NOT a "mediocre product".

    Just look at all the folks on YouTube who would never have touched a Mac
    5 years ago who are now switching.

    :-)
    --- Synchronet 3.22a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From chrisv@[email protected] to comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy on Mon Jun 15 17:25:37 2026
    From Newsgroup: comp.os.linux.advocacy

    Alan wrote:

    And how DOES linux run the Windows versions of games, exactly?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proton_(software)

    --- Synchronet 3.22a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From Joel W. Crump@[email protected] to comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy on Mon Jun 15 18:37:58 2026
    From Newsgroup: comp.os.linux.advocacy

    On 6/15/2026 6:15 PM, Alan wrote:

    The Neo is a great choice if one wants macOS, as it goes with
    Apple's products.  I just don't buy their crapware, it has no value
    to me, it's less than nothing.

    And yet you're so triggered by them, you had to reply to tell us all
    how little you care.

    Frankly, yes, I am triggered, it irks the shit out of me that morons
    think they have to pay through the nose for a mediocre product.  But
    then again, their minds are simply broken.

    Except it's NOT a "mediocre product".

    Just look at all the folks on YouTube who would never have touched a Mac
    5 years ago who are now switching.

    :-)


    I suspect that would be a fad. Apple's cult has to be true to its
    cultish ways, or they'd fail to sell their overpriced junk to the people
    who can't fathom anything else, so relatively sane people will tire of
    dealing with their shenanigans, and use PCs.
    --
    Joel W. Crump

    86 47
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  • From CrudeSausage@[email protected] to comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy on Mon Jun 15 19:58:37 2026
    From Newsgroup: comp.os.linux.advocacy

    On 2026-06-15 6:25 p.m., chrisv wrote:
    Alan wrote:

    And how DOES linux run the Windows versions of games, exactly?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proton_(software)

    I'll bet that Anal will make claims that it doesn't do as good of a job
    as Metal does, despite the fact that he's never tried it out. I won't
    get him out of the filter to find out because I somehow find him even
    more annoying than Michael Glasser, but here is what Brave Search has to
    say:

    "Proton is a compatibility layer developed by Valve that translates
    Windows DirectX and OpenGL instructions into Vulkan, allowing Windows
    games to run on Linux with near-native performance because the
    underlying x86 hardware remains unchanged.

    Metal is Apple’s proprietary graphics API, and while tools like D3DMetal
    or DXMT can translate DirectX to Metal for macOS, this approach suffers
    from significant performance penalties due to the need for x86-to-ARM
    CPU emulation (via Rosetta) and the translation overhead of Apple’s Tile-Based Deferred Rendering architecture compared to standard
    immediate-mode rendering.

    Linux/Proton: Benefits from mature DXVK and VKD3D translation layers, open-source driver support, and native x86 execution, resulting in 95%+ Windows game compatibility and performance often matching or exceeding
    Windows binaries.
    macOS/Metal: Lacks a unified, native Steam integration like Proton,
    relies on less mature translation tools, and incurs heavy CPU and GPU overhead, making it significantly less viable for high-performance 3A
    gaming compared to Linux."

    If you're a Windows user who even occasionally plays games and want to emigrate from the operating system, the smarter choice is Linux if
    you're willing to learn even a little bit about the new operating
    system. If you can't be bothered, go with the Mac and enjoy the
    excellent hardware, but you'll soon understand how restrictive the new operating system can be, especially with software signing.
    --
    CrudeSausage
    M4 MacBook Air
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  • From Alan@[email protected] to comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy on Mon Jun 15 17:09:50 2026
    From Newsgroup: comp.os.linux.advocacy

    On 2026-06-15 16:58, CrudeSausage wrote:
    On 2026-06-15 6:25 p.m., chrisv wrote:
    Alan wrote:

    And how DOES linux run the Windows versions of games, exactly?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proton_(software)

    I'll bet that Anal will make claims that it doesn't do as good of a job
    as Metal does, despite the fact that he's never tried it out. I won't
    get him out of the filter to find out because I somehow find him even
    more annoying than Michael Glasser, but here is what Brave Search has to say:

    "Proton is a compatibility layer developed by Valve that translates
    Windows DirectX and OpenGL instructions into Vulkan, allowing Windows
    games to run on Linux with near-native performance because the
    underlying x86 hardware remains unchanged.

    Metal is Apple’s proprietary graphics API, and while tools like D3DMetal or DXMT can translate DirectX to Metal for macOS, this approach suffers
    from significant performance penalties due to the need for x86-to-ARM
    CPU emulation (via Rosetta) and the translation overhead of Apple’s Tile-Based Deferred Rendering architecture compared to standard immediate-mode rendering.

    Linux/Proton: Benefits from mature DXVK and VKD3D translation layers, open-source driver support, and native x86 execution, resulting in 95%+ Windows game compatibility and performance often matching or exceeding Windows binaries.
    macOS/Metal: Lacks a unified, native Steam integration like Proton,
    relies on less mature translation tools, and incurs heavy CPU and GPU overhead, making it significantly less viable for high-performance 3A
    gaming compared to Linux."

    If you're a Windows user who even occasionally plays games and want to emigrate from the operating system, the smarter choice is Linux if
    you're willing to learn even a little bit about the new operating
    system. If you can't be bothered, go with the Mac and enjoy the
    excellent hardware, but you'll soon understand how restrictive the new operating system can be, especially with software signing.


    "It is a collection of software and libraries combined with a patched
    version of Wine to improve performance and compatibility with Windows
    games."

    You get that Wine works on macOS too, right?
    --- Synchronet 3.22a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From chrisv@[email protected] to comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy on Tue Jun 16 06:08:13 2026
    From Newsgroup: comp.os.linux.advocacy

    Alan wrote:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proton_(software)

    "It is a collection of software and libraries combined with a patched >version of Wine to improve performance and compatibility with Windows >games."

    You get that Wine works on macOS too, right?

    But Proton, which improves gaming performance and compatibility, does
    not.

    --- Synchronet 3.22a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From CrudeSausage@[email protected] to comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy on Tue Jun 16 07:15:34 2026
    From Newsgroup: comp.os.linux.advocacy

    On 2026-06-16 7:08 a.m., chrisv wrote:
    Alan wrote:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proton_(software)

    "It is a collection of software and libraries combined with a patched
    version of Wine to improve performance and compatibility with Windows
    games."

    You get that Wine works on macOS too, right?

    But Proton, which improves gaming performance and compatibility, does
    not.

    What a dunce, seriously. What an absolute dunce.
    --
    CrudeSausage
    M4 MacBook Air
    --- Synchronet 3.22a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From Alan@[email protected] to comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy on Tue Jun 16 08:10:55 2026
    From Newsgroup: comp.os.linux.advocacy

    On 2026-06-16 04:08, chrisv wrote:
    Alan wrote:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proton_(software)

    "It is a collection of software and libraries combined with a patched
    version of Wine to improve performance and compatibility with Windows
    games."

    You get that Wine works on macOS too, right?

    But Proton, which improves gaming performance and compatibility, does
    not.


    But there is nothing that would prevent them from making it for macOS,
    agreed?
    --- Synchronet 3.22a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From Tom Elam@[email protected] to comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy on Tue Jun 16 13:29:22 2026
    From Newsgroup: comp.os.linux.advocacy

    On 6/14/26 8:00 PM, Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote:
    Are Mac users really less fun-loving than those on other platforms? I
    find that hard to believe somehow.

    <https://www.tomshardware.com/laptops/macbooks/amd-taunts-apples-macbook-neo-for-failing-to-run-75-percent-of-top-pc-games-only-5-out-of-the-20-top-pc-games-work-on-the-neo-while-all-run-on-amds-budget-offerings>

    Of course, Linux can probably run most if not all of the same games --
    and it doesn’t need special versions like the Mac, it can run the
    Windows versions. So maybe once someone figures out how to run Linux
    on the Neo, it might become a decent machine ...

    But if you don't play video games:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Afk2lnhcMJ8
    --- Synchronet 3.22a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From Nick Charles@[email protected] to comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy on Tue Jun 16 18:57:44 2026
    From Newsgroup: comp.os.linux.advocacy

    On Jun 14, 2026 at 8:00:50 PM EDT, "Lawrence D´Oliveiro" <[email protected]d> wrote:

    Are Mac users really less fun-loving than those on other platforms? I
    find that hard to believe somehow.

    <https://www.tomshardware.com/laptops/macbooks/amd-taunts-apples-macbook-neo-for-failing-to-run-75-percent-of-top-pc-games-only-5-out-of-the-20-top-pc-games-work-on-the-neo-while-all-run-on-amds-budget-offerings>

    Of course, Linux can probably run most if not all of the same games --
    and it doesn’t need special versions like the Mac, it can run the
    Windows versions. So maybe once someone figures out how to run Linux
    on the Neo, it might become a decent machine ...

    Look how scared everyone is of the Neo. And it is selling like crazy.

    Now Windows is tanking and everyone is panicking. Maybe if Windows had not devolved into complete shit over the last 10 years...
    --- Synchronet 3.22a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From chrisv@[email protected] to comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy on Tue Jun 16 14:25:27 2026
    From Newsgroup: comp.os.linux.advocacy

    Alan wrote:

    chrisv wrote:
    Alan wrote:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proton_(software)

    "It is a collection of software and libraries combined with a patched
    version of Wine to improve performance and compatibility with Windows
    games."

    You get that Wine works on macOS too, right?

    But Proton, which improves gaming performance and compatibility, does
    not.

    But there is nothing that would prevent them from making it for macOS, >agreed?

    There is nothing to prevent that, nor is there anything preventing me
    willing the lottery.

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  • From chrisv@[email protected] to comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy on Tue Jun 16 14:58:59 2026
    From Newsgroup: comp.os.linux.advocacy

    Nick Charles wrote:

    Lawrence D�Oliveiro wrote:

    Are Mac users really less fun-loving than those on other platforms? I
    find that hard to believe somehow.

    <https://www.tomshardware.com/laptops/macbooks/amd-taunts-apples-macbook-neo-for-failing-to-run-75-percent-of-top-pc-games-only-5-out-of-the-20-top-pc-games-work-on-the-neo-while-all-run-on-amds-budget-offerings>

    Of course, Linux can probably run most if not all of the same games --
    and it doesn�t need special versions like the Mac, it can run the
    Windows versions. So maybe once someone figures out how to run Linux
    on the Neo, it might become a decent machine ...

    Look how scared everyone is of the Neo.

    No, just Lawrence. And maybe Joel the Troll.

    And it is selling like crazy.

    As it should. It's a good product and well-priced.

    Now Windows is tanking and everyone is panicking. Maybe if Windows had not >devolved into complete shit over the last 10 years...

    Micro$oft says: "All we want is to know everything about you and
    everything that you are doing."
    --
    "Virtually every worthwhile software app ever released was created on
    Windows or Mac ..." - some dumb fsck
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  • From CrudeSausage@[email protected] to comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy on Tue Jun 16 16:09:14 2026
    From Newsgroup: comp.os.linux.advocacy

    On 6/16/26 2:57 PM, Nick Charles wrote:
    On Jun 14, 2026 at 8:00:50 PM EDT, "Lawrence D´Oliveiro" <[email protected]d> wrote:

    Are Mac users really less fun-loving than those on other platforms? I
    find that hard to believe somehow.

    <https://www.tomshardware.com/laptops/macbooks/amd-taunts-apples-macbook-neo-for-failing-to-run-75-percent-of-top-pc-games-only-5-out-of-the-20-top-pc-games-work-on-the-neo-while-all-run-on-amds-budget-offerings>

    Of course, Linux can probably run most if not all of the same games --
    and it doesn’t need special versions like the Mac, it can run the
    Windows versions. So maybe once someone figures out how to run Linux
    on the Neo, it might become a decent machine ...

    Look how scared everyone is of the Neo. And it is selling like crazy.

    Now Windows is tanking and everyone is panicking. Maybe if Windows had not devolved into complete shit over the last 10 years...

    I was willing to stick to Windows no matter what. Then, fTPM stuttering
    was introduced and remains unfixed without installing a physical TPM
    chip that all laptop manufacturers refuse to do.
    --
    CrudeSausage
    Zephyrus G14 2021 running on Ubuntu 26.04
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  • From chrisv@[email protected] to comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy on Tue Jun 16 16:56:49 2026
    From Newsgroup: comp.os.linux.advocacy

    CrudeSausage wrote:

    I was willing to stick to Windows no matter what. Then, fTPM stuttering
    was introduced and remains unfixed without installing a physical TPM
    chip that all laptop manufacturers refuse to do.

    "AMD fTPM (firmware Trusted Platform Module) is known to cause
    intermittent system stutters, mouse lag, and audio dropouts on select
    Ryzen systems."

    You should have bought Intel, man! I'll never buy a crappy AMD CPU.
    --
    "In practice, though, Linux users are just as controlled by the distro
    makers and FOSS app developers as commercial users are by Microsoft
    and closed-source app developers." - DumFSck, lying shamelessly
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  • From CrudeSausage@[email protected] to comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy on Tue Jun 16 18:19:50 2026
    From Newsgroup: comp.os.linux.advocacy

    On 2026-06-16 5:56 p.m., chrisv wrote:
    CrudeSausage wrote:

    I was willing to stick to Windows no matter what. Then, fTPM stuttering
    was introduced and remains unfixed without installing a physical TPM
    chip that all laptop manufacturers refuse to do.

    "AMD fTPM (firmware Trusted Platform Module) is known to cause
    intermittent system stutters, mouse lag, and audio dropouts on select
    Ryzen systems."

    You should have bought Intel, man! I'll never buy a crappy AMD CPU.

    Yep, Intel doesn't suffer from it. Meanwhile: <https://www.theverge.com/2024/7/26/24206529/intel-13th-14th-gen-crashing-instability-cpu-voltage-q-a>
    Intel chips have their own set of problems.

    Considering all this, the migration to Mac is rather easy.
    --
    CrudeSausage
    M4 MacBook Air
    --- Synchronet 3.22a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From Nick Charles@[email protected] to comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy on Tue Jun 16 22:49:37 2026
    From Newsgroup: comp.os.linux.advocacy

    On Jun 16, 2026 at 6:19:50 PM EDT, "CrudeSausage" <[email protected]> wrote:

    On 2026-06-16 5:56 p.m., chrisv wrote:
    CrudeSausage wrote:

    I was willing to stick to Windows no matter what. Then, fTPM stuttering
    was introduced and remains unfixed without installing a physical TPM
    chip that all laptop manufacturers refuse to do.

    "AMD fTPM (firmware Trusted Platform Module) is known to cause
    intermittent system stutters, mouse lag, and audio dropouts on select
    Ryzen systems."

    You should have bought Intel, man! I'll never buy a crappy AMD CPU.

    Yep, Intel doesn't suffer from it. Meanwhile: <https://www.theverge.com/2024/7/26/24206529/intel-13th-14th-gen-crashing-instability-cpu-voltage-q-a>
    Intel chips have their own set of problems.

    I read enough, working around the annoying "pay to continue reading". Wow. "The damage is done and can't be fixed"? Good Times.

    Considering all this, the migration to Mac is rather easy.

    "Wintel" is going down. Macs look better every day.
    --- Synchronet 3.22a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From Alan@[email protected] to comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy on Tue Jun 16 16:16:55 2026
    From Newsgroup: comp.os.linux.advocacy

    On 2026-06-16 12:25, chrisv wrote:
    Alan wrote:

    chrisv wrote:
    Alan wrote:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proton_(software)

    "It is a collection of software and libraries combined with a patched
    version of Wine to improve performance and compatibility with Windows
    games."

    You get that Wine works on macOS too, right?

    But Proton, which improves gaming performance and compatibility, does
    not.

    But there is nothing that would prevent them from making it for macOS,
    agreed?

    There is nothing to prevent that, nor is there anything preventing me
    willing the lottery.


    Exactly... ...so it's a CHOICE, not a technical limitation.


    --- Synchronet 3.22a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From vallor@[email protected] to comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy on Tue Jun 16 23:40:13 2026
    From Newsgroup: comp.os.linux.advocacy

    At Tue, 16 Jun 2026 16:16:55 -0700, Alan <[email protected]> wrote:

    On 2026-06-16 12:25, chrisv wrote:
    Alan wrote:

    chrisv wrote:
    Alan wrote:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proton_(software)

    "It is a collection of software and libraries combined with a patched >>>> version of Wine to improve performance and compatibility with Windows >>>> games."

    You get that Wine works on macOS too, right?

    But Proton, which improves gaming performance and compatibility, does
    not.

    But there is nothing that would prevent them from making it for macOS,
    agreed?

    There is nothing to prevent that, nor is there anything preventing me willing the lottery.


    Exactly... ...so it's a CHOICE, not a technical limitation.

    I've heard there is now a proton that will run Windows (Intel) games
    on ARM processors -- but I think it is just limited to Linux.

    Meanwhile, Mrs. vallor's Mac Studio continues to run time machine,
    backing up to my Linux workstation:

    _[/srv/Extreme_Pro/timemachine/mac-studio.sparsebundle]_(root@lm)⭕_
    # ll -n
    total 116
    -rwxr--r-- 1 1026 1026 575 Jun 14 20:00 Info.bckup
    -rwxr--r-- 1 1026 1026 575 Jun 16 14:22 Info.plist
    drwxr-xr-x 2 1026 1026 36864 Jun 16 14:11 bands
    -rwxr--r-- 1 1026 1026 510 Jun 16 14:00 com.apple.TimeMachine.MachineID.plist -rwxr--r-- 1 1026 1026 1211 Jun 16 14:14 com.apple.TimeMachine.Results.plist -rwxr--r-- 1 1026 1026 19927 Jun 16 14:13 com.apple.TimeMachine.SnapshotHistory.plist
    -rwxr--r-- 1 1026 1026 0 Jan 6 2025 lock
    drwxr-xr-x 2 1026 1026 36864 Jun 16 14:11 mapped
    -rwxr--r-- 1 1026 1026 0 Jan 6 2025 token
    --
    -v System76 Thelio Mega v1.1 x86_64 Mem: 258G
    OS: Linux 7.1.0 D: Mint 22.3 DE: Xfce 4.18 (X11)
    NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090Ti (24G) (610.43.02)
    "Half of the people in the world are below average."
    --- Synchronet 3.22a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From vallor@[email protected] to comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy on Tue Jun 16 23:42:32 2026
    From Newsgroup: comp.os.linux.advocacy

    At Tue, 16 Jun 2026 22:49:37 +0000, Nick Charles <[email protected]> wrote:

    On Jun 16, 2026 at 6:19:50 PM EDT, "CrudeSausage" <[email protected]> wrote:

    On 2026-06-16 5:56 p.m., chrisv wrote:
    CrudeSausage wrote:

    I was willing to stick to Windows no matter what. Then, fTPM stuttering >>> was introduced and remains unfixed without installing a physical TPM
    chip that all laptop manufacturers refuse to do.

    "AMD fTPM (firmware Trusted Platform Module) is known to cause
    intermittent system stutters, mouse lag, and audio dropouts on select
    Ryzen systems."

    You should have bought Intel, man! I'll never buy a crappy AMD CPU.

    Yep, Intel doesn't suffer from it. Meanwhile: <https://www.theverge.com/2024/7/26/24206529/intel-13th-14th-gen-crashing-instability-cpu-voltage-q-a>
    Intel chips have their own set of problems.

    I read enough, working around the annoying "pay to continue reading". Wow. "The damage is done and can't be fixed"? Good Times.

    Considering all this, the migration to Mac is rather easy.

    "Wintel" is going down. Macs look better every day.

    Can't play Windows games on Macs.

    Can play Windows games on Linux PC's -- easily, if you are using
    Steam (which will run them with proton).

    I fly spaceships in Elite Dangerous. Very immersive interactive
    fiction. Give it a try.
    --
    -v System76 Thelio Mega v1.1 x86_64 Mem: 258G
    OS: Linux 7.1.0 D: Mint 22.3 DE: Xfce 4.18 (X11)
    NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090Ti (24G) (610.43.02)
    "Seen on BBSer's tombstone: CONNECT 1953, NO CARRIER 1994"
    --- Synchronet 3.22a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From CrudeSausage@[email protected] to comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy on Tue Jun 16 19:55:26 2026
    From Newsgroup: comp.os.linux.advocacy

    On 2026-06-16 6:49 p.m., Nick Charles wrote:
    On Jun 16, 2026 at 6:19:50 PM EDT, "CrudeSausage" <[email protected]> wrote:

    On 2026-06-16 5:56 p.m., chrisv wrote:
    CrudeSausage wrote:

    I was willing to stick to Windows no matter what. Then, fTPM stuttering >>>> was introduced and remains unfixed without installing a physical TPM
    chip that all laptop manufacturers refuse to do.

    "AMD fTPM (firmware Trusted Platform Module) is known to cause
    intermittent system stutters, mouse lag, and audio dropouts on select
    Ryzen systems."

    You should have bought Intel, man! I'll never buy a crappy AMD CPU.

    Yep, Intel doesn't suffer from it. Meanwhile:
    <https://www.theverge.com/2024/7/26/24206529/intel-13th-14th-gen-crashing-instability-cpu-voltage-q-a>
    Intel chips have their own set of problems.

    I read enough, working around the annoying "pay to continue reading". Wow. "The damage is done and can't be fixed"? Good Times.

    Considering all this, the migration to Mac is rather easy.

    "Wintel" is going down. Macs look better every day.

    Like I've said in other posts, the moment you stop hearing the fans
    while using your computer, you get addicted to the experience. It feels
    nice to know that I can lay my laptop on the bed and not worry about air circulation being compromised and causing the unit to overheat.

    The Mac isn't perfect, especially if games are an issue for you but also because of the strict signing for software, but it's a lot better than
    what Microsoft and its manufacturing partners are selling.
    --
    CrudeSausage
    M4 MacBook Air
    --- Synchronet 3.22a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From Nick Charles@[email protected] to comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy on Wed Jun 17 00:23:13 2026
    From Newsgroup: comp.os.linux.advocacy

    On Jun 16, 2026 at 7:42:32 PM EDT, "vallor" <[email protected]> wrote:

    At Tue, 16 Jun 2026 22:49:37 +0000, Nick Charles <[email protected]> wrote:

    On Jun 16, 2026 at 6:19:50 PM EDT, "CrudeSausage" <[email protected]> wrote: >>
    On 2026-06-16 5:56 p.m., chrisv wrote:
    CrudeSausage wrote:

    I was willing to stick to Windows no matter what. Then, fTPM stuttering >>>>> was introduced and remains unfixed without installing a physical TPM >>>>> chip that all laptop manufacturers refuse to do.

    "AMD fTPM (firmware Trusted Platform Module) is known to cause
    intermittent system stutters, mouse lag, and audio dropouts on select
    Ryzen systems."

    You should have bought Intel, man! I'll never buy a crappy AMD CPU.

    Yep, Intel doesn't suffer from it. Meanwhile:
    <https://www.theverge.com/2024/7/26/24206529/intel-13th-14th-gen-crashing-instability-cpu-voltage-q-a>
    Intel chips have their own set of problems.

    I read enough, working around the annoying "pay to continue reading". Wow. >> "The damage is done and can't be fixed"? Good Times.

    Considering all this, the migration to Mac is rather easy.

    "Wintel" is going down. Macs look better every day.

    Can't play Windows games on Macs.

    Don't care. I'm an adult. I am no longer interested in computer games.
    --- Synchronet 3.22a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From Nick Charles@[email protected] to comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy on Wed Jun 17 00:40:52 2026
    From Newsgroup: comp.os.linux.advocacy

    On Jun 16, 2026 at 7:55:26 PM EDT, "CrudeSausage" <[email protected]> wrote:

    On 2026-06-16 6:49 p.m., Nick Charles wrote:
    On Jun 16, 2026 at 6:19:50 PM EDT, "CrudeSausage" <[email protected]> wrote: >>
    On 2026-06-16 5:56 p.m., chrisv wrote:
    CrudeSausage wrote:

    I was willing to stick to Windows no matter what. Then, fTPM stuttering >>>>> was introduced and remains unfixed without installing a physical TPM >>>>> chip that all laptop manufacturers refuse to do.

    "AMD fTPM (firmware Trusted Platform Module) is known to cause
    intermittent system stutters, mouse lag, and audio dropouts on select
    Ryzen systems."

    You should have bought Intel, man! I'll never buy a crappy AMD CPU.

    Yep, Intel doesn't suffer from it. Meanwhile:
    <https://www.theverge.com/2024/7/26/24206529/intel-13th-14th-gen-crashing-instability-cpu-voltage-q-a>
    Intel chips have their own set of problems.

    I read enough, working around the annoying "pay to continue reading". Wow. >> "The damage is done and can't be fixed"? Good Times.

    Considering all this, the migration to Mac is rather easy.

    "Wintel" is going down. Macs look better every day.

    Like I've said in other posts, the moment you stop hearing the fans
    while using your computer, you get addicted to the experience. It feels
    nice to know that I can lay my laptop on the bed and not worry about air circulation being compromised and causing the unit to overheat.

    My daughter has killed a couple Wintel laptops (over several years) doing exactly that. She finally bought a MacBook Air. Problem solved.

    The Mac isn't perfect, especially if games are an issue for you but also because of the strict signing for software, but it's a lot better than
    what Microsoft and its manufacturing partners are selling.

    Considering the junk OS that Microsoft is STILL selling and the Intel Space Heater hardware that everyone is STILL selling, that's not saying much. :-) --- Synchronet 3.22a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From CrudeSausage@[email protected] to comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy on Tue Jun 16 22:26:29 2026
    From Newsgroup: comp.os.linux.advocacy

    On 2026-06-16 8:23 p.m., Nick Charles wrote:
    On Jun 16, 2026 at 7:42:32 PM EDT, "vallor" <[email protected]> wrote:

    At Tue, 16 Jun 2026 22:49:37 +0000, Nick Charles <[email protected]> wrote:

    On Jun 16, 2026 at 6:19:50 PM EDT, "CrudeSausage" <[email protected]> wrote: >>>
    On 2026-06-16 5:56 p.m., chrisv wrote:
    CrudeSausage wrote:

    I was willing to stick to Windows no matter what. Then, fTPM stuttering >>>>>> was introduced and remains unfixed without installing a physical TPM >>>>>> chip that all laptop manufacturers refuse to do.

    "AMD fTPM (firmware Trusted Platform Module) is known to cause
    intermittent system stutters, mouse lag, and audio dropouts on select >>>>> Ryzen systems."

    You should have bought Intel, man! I'll never buy a crappy AMD CPU.

    Yep, Intel doesn't suffer from it. Meanwhile:
    <https://www.theverge.com/2024/7/26/24206529/intel-13th-14th-gen-crashing-instability-cpu-voltage-q-a>
    Intel chips have their own set of problems.

    I read enough, working around the annoying "pay to continue reading". Wow. >>> "The damage is done and can't be fixed"? Good Times.

    Considering all this, the migration to Mac is rather easy.

    "Wintel" is going down. Macs look better every day.

    Can't play Windows games on Macs.

    Don't care. I'm an adult. I am no longer interested in computer games.

    Regardless, it's one thing Windows PCs can do that a Mac can't. Macs are getting much better in this respect, especially since the hardware is
    shown to be more than sufficient for the task, but publishers will
    always target the largest audience. Valve understood this and stopped
    trying to get publishers to make Linux ports; they simply got the
    Windows native ports to run in Linux.

    Anyone who wants to have total control over their hardware and play
    games is much better off getting an x86-64 machine and installing
    whichever Linux they prefer. Those who don't feel the need for total
    control are much better off with Apple. Absolutely no one should be
    opting for Windows anymore though. They should do whatever they can to
    move away from it.
    --
    CrudeSausage
    M4 MacBook Air
    --- Synchronet 3.22a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From CrudeSausage@[email protected] to comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy on Tue Jun 16 22:31:59 2026
    From Newsgroup: comp.os.linux.advocacy

    On 2026-06-16 8:40 p.m., Nick Charles wrote:
    On Jun 16, 2026 at 7:55:26 PM EDT, "CrudeSausage" <[email protected]> wrote:

    On 2026-06-16 6:49 p.m., Nick Charles wrote:
    On Jun 16, 2026 at 6:19:50 PM EDT, "CrudeSausage" <[email protected]> wrote: >>>
    On 2026-06-16 5:56 p.m., chrisv wrote:
    CrudeSausage wrote:

    I was willing to stick to Windows no matter what. Then, fTPM stuttering >>>>>> was introduced and remains unfixed without installing a physical TPM >>>>>> chip that all laptop manufacturers refuse to do.

    "AMD fTPM (firmware Trusted Platform Module) is known to cause
    intermittent system stutters, mouse lag, and audio dropouts on select >>>>> Ryzen systems."

    You should have bought Intel, man! I'll never buy a crappy AMD CPU.

    Yep, Intel doesn't suffer from it. Meanwhile:
    <https://www.theverge.com/2024/7/26/24206529/intel-13th-14th-gen-crashing-instability-cpu-voltage-q-a>
    Intel chips have their own set of problems.

    I read enough, working around the annoying "pay to continue reading". Wow. >>> "The damage is done and can't be fixed"? Good Times.

    Considering all this, the migration to Mac is rather easy.

    "Wintel" is going down. Macs look better every day.

    Like I've said in other posts, the moment you stop hearing the fans
    while using your computer, you get addicted to the experience. It feels
    nice to know that I can lay my laptop on the bed and not worry about air
    circulation being compromised and causing the unit to overheat.

    My daughter has killed a couple Wintel laptops (over several years) doing exactly that. She finally bought a MacBook Air. Problem solved.

    I'm surprised that she never noticed that the fans were going crazy
    before she killed the machine. I never had that issue with my 17" MSI
    GT72, but I immediately noticed that it with the Zephyrus G14 when I
    bought it... that and the poor quality of the wireless chip it included, another area Apple laptops are superior to PC hardware.

    The Mac isn't perfect, especially if games are an issue for you but also
    because of the strict signing for software, but it's a lot better than
    what Microsoft and its manufacturing partners are selling.

    Considering the junk OS that Microsoft is STILL selling and the Intel Space Heater hardware that everyone is STILL selling, that's not saying much. :-)

    Intel and other hardware manufacturers have now made it a priority to
    deliver long battery life. As far as I know, Intel's Core Ultra series
    is giving Windows users all-day battery and narrowing the gap with Apple
    in that respect. Of course, it still requires a loud fan and compromises
    on performance once the hardware is no longer on AC, two things Apple
    devices don't need to worry about. If anyone is interested, here are a
    few PC laptops with better battery life than a MacBook: <https://www.bgr.com/2135361/laptops-with-better-battery-life-than-macbook-air/>
    --
    CrudeSausage
    M4 MacBook Air
    --- Synchronet 3.22a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From Lawrence =?iso-8859-13?q?D=FFOliveiro?=@[email protected] to comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy on Wed Jun 17 02:50:58 2026
    From Newsgroup: comp.os.linux.advocacy

    On Tue, 16 Jun 2026 22:49:37 +0000, Nick Charles wrote:

    "Wintel" is going down. Macs look better every day.

    Surely nobody in their right mind would simply trade one walled garden
    for another ...
    --- Synchronet 3.22a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From Lawrence =?iso-8859-13?q?D=FFOliveiro?=@[email protected] to comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy on Wed Jun 17 02:52:30 2026
    From Newsgroup: comp.os.linux.advocacy

    On Wed, 17 Jun 2026 00:23:13 +0000, Nick Charles wrote:

    Can't play Windows games on Macs.

    Don't care. I'm an adult. I am no longer interested in computer
    games.

    “All work and no play, makes Mac a dull boy.”
    --- Synchronet 3.22a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From Nick Charles@[email protected] to comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy on Wed Jun 17 02:58:38 2026
    From Newsgroup: comp.os.linux.advocacy

    On Jun 16, 2026 at 10:26:29 PM EDT, "CrudeSausage" <[email protected]> wrote:

    On 2026-06-16 8:23 p.m., Nick Charles wrote:
    On Jun 16, 2026 at 7:42:32 PM EDT, "vallor" <[email protected]> wrote: >>
    At Tue, 16 Jun 2026 22:49:37 +0000, Nick Charles <[email protected]> wrote: >>>
    On Jun 16, 2026 at 6:19:50 PM EDT, "CrudeSausage" <[email protected]> wrote:

    On 2026-06-16 5:56 p.m., chrisv wrote:
    CrudeSausage wrote:

    I was willing to stick to Windows no matter what. Then, fTPM stuttering >>>>>>> was introduced and remains unfixed without installing a physical TPM >>>>>>> chip that all laptop manufacturers refuse to do.

    "AMD fTPM (firmware Trusted Platform Module) is known to cause
    intermittent system stutters, mouse lag, and audio dropouts on select >>>>>> Ryzen systems."

    You should have bought Intel, man! I'll never buy a crappy AMD CPU. >>>>>
    Yep, Intel doesn't suffer from it. Meanwhile:
    <https://www.theverge.com/2024/7/26/24206529/intel-13th-14th-gen-crashing-instability-cpu-voltage-q-a>
    Intel chips have their own set of problems.

    I read enough, working around the annoying "pay to continue reading". Wow. >>>> "The damage is done and can't be fixed"? Good Times.

    Considering all this, the migration to Mac is rather easy.

    "Wintel" is going down. Macs look better every day.

    Can't play Windows games on Macs.

    Don't care. I'm an adult. I am no longer interested in computer games.

    Regardless, it's one thing Windows PCs can do that a Mac can't. Macs are getting much better in this respect, especially since the hardware is
    shown to be more than sufficient for the task, but publishers will
    always target the largest audience. Valve understood this and stopped
    trying to get publishers to make Linux ports; they simply got the
    Windows native ports to run in Linux.

    It is THE one thing Windows PCs can do. Again, I don't care.

    However, given that Windows has no future at this point, what is stopping MS from buying/licensing/whatever Valve/Steam and moving everything to Linux? Games are arguably the most demanding software. If Windows games can rull
    well on Linux, surely Office - and everything else - can also.

    Remember, Apple bought Next and moved everything to Unix. Surely "the world's largest software company" can do the same thing. Assuming they want to.

    The whole world today runs on Unix/Linux. Unix/Linux runs on everything from mainframes to watches. The entire internet runs on Linux. Apple everything runs on Unix. Android is Linux. Linux owns the PC web/app/DB server space.

    Meanwhile, Windows Island is shrinking every day. Since Windows is no longer the Cash Cow it was 15 years ago, perhaps MS is simply not interested in
    saving Windows? Perhaps all Microsoft is interested in at this point is Window's funeral expenses? The real money is now all going to AI and Azure.

    Anyone who wants to have total control over their hardware and play
    games is much better off getting an x86-64 machine and installing
    whichever Linux they prefer. Those who don't feel the need for total
    control are much better off with Apple. Absolutely no one should be
    opting for Windows anymore though. They should do whatever they can to
    move away from it.

    Agreed. Today, anything is a better option than Windows.
    --- Synchronet 3.22a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From vallor@[email protected] to comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy on Wed Jun 17 06:03:58 2026
    From Newsgroup: comp.os.linux.advocacy

    At Wed, 17 Jun 2026 00:23:13 +0000, Nick Charles <[email protected]> wrote:

    On Jun 16, 2026 at 7:42:32 PM EDT, "vallor" <[email protected]> wrote:

    At Tue, 16 Jun 2026 22:49:37 +0000, Nick Charles <[email protected]> wrote:

    On Jun 16, 2026 at 6:19:50 PM EDT, "CrudeSausage" <[email protected]> wrote:

    On 2026-06-16 5:56 p.m., chrisv wrote:
    CrudeSausage wrote:

    I was willing to stick to Windows no matter what. Then, fTPM stuttering >>>>> was introduced and remains unfixed without installing a physical TPM >>>>> chip that all laptop manufacturers refuse to do.

    "AMD fTPM (firmware Trusted Platform Module) is known to cause
    intermittent system stutters, mouse lag, and audio dropouts on select >>>> Ryzen systems."

    You should have bought Intel, man! I'll never buy a crappy AMD CPU.

    Yep, Intel doesn't suffer from it. Meanwhile:
    <https://www.theverge.com/2024/7/26/24206529/intel-13th-14th-gen-crashing-instability-cpu-voltage-q-a>
    Intel chips have their own set of problems.

    I read enough, working around the annoying "pay to continue reading". Wow. >> "The damage is done and can't be fixed"? Good Times.

    Considering all this, the migration to Mac is rather easy.

    "Wintel" is going down. Macs look better every day.

    Can't play Windows games on Macs.

    Don't care. I'm an adult. I am no longer interested in computer games.

    Your loss.

    Let's follow that reasoning:

    "Don't care. I'm an adult. I am no longer interested in movies."

    "Don't care. I'm an adult. I am no longer interested in books."

    "Don't care. I'm an adult. I am no longer interested in casinos."

    Sooooooo smart, you are!
    --
    -v System76 Thelio Mega v1.1 x86_64 Mem: 258G
    OS: Linux 7.1.0 D: Mint 22.3 DE: Xfce 4.18 (X11)
    NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090Ti (24G) (610.43.02)
    "Oxymoron: Too Many Taglines."
    --- Synchronet 3.22a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From chrisv@[email protected] to comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy on Wed Jun 17 06:21:16 2026
    From Newsgroup: comp.os.linux.advocacy

    Alan wrote:

    chrisv wrote:
    Alan wrote:
    chrisv wrote:
    Alan wrote:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proton_(software)

    "It is a collection of software and libraries combined with a patched >>>>> version of Wine to improve performance and compatibility with Windows >>>>> games."

    You get that Wine works on macOS too, right?

    But Proton, which improves gaming performance and compatibility, does
    not.

    But there is nothing that would prevent them from making it for macOS,
    agreed?

    There is nothing to prevent that, nor is there anything preventing me
    willing the lottery.

    Exactly... ...so it's a CHOICE, not a technical limitation.

    You just *need* to have the last word, don't you?

    There's also no technical limitation of Linux having, say, the Adobe
    software that the Mac does.

    --- Synchronet 3.22a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From Chris Ahlstrom@[email protected] to comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy on Wed Jun 17 07:32:09 2026
    From Newsgroup: comp.os.linux.advocacy

    Nick Charles wrote this screed in ALL-CAPS:

    On Jun 16, 2026 at 7:42:32 PM EDT, "vallor" <[email protected]> wrote:

    <snip>

    Can't play Windows games on Macs.

    Don't care. I'm an adult. I am no longer interested in computer games.

    Bumper sticker: Linux... eating Macs and shitting Windows.

    :-D
    --
    Once there was a little nerd who loved to read your mail,
    And then yank back the i-access times to get hackers off his tail,
    And once as he finished reading from the secretary's spool,
    He wrote a rude rejection to her boyfriend (how uncool!)
    And this as delivermail did work and he ran his backfstat,
    He heard an awful crackling like rat fritters in hot fat,
    And hard errors brought the system down 'fore he could even shout!
    And the bio bug'll bring yours down too, ef you don't watch out!
    And once they was a little flake who'd prowl through the uulog,
    And when he went to his blit that night to play at being god,
    The ops all heard him holler, and they to the console dashed,
    But when they did a ps -ut they found the system crashed!
    Oh, the wizards adb'd the dumps and did the system trace,
    And worked on the file system 'til the disk head was hot paste,
    But all they ever found was this: "panic: never doubt",
    And the bio bug'll crash your box too, ef you don't watch out!
    When the day is done and the moon comes out,
    And you hear the printer whining and the rk's seems to count,
    When the other desks are empty and their terminals glassy grey,
    And the load is only 1.6 and you wonder if it'll stay,
    You must mind the file protections and not snoop around,
    Or the bio bug'll getcha and bring the system down!
    --- Synchronet 3.22a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From chrisv@[email protected] to comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy on Wed Jun 17 06:35:16 2026
    From Newsgroup: comp.os.linux.advocacy

    CrudeSausage wrote:

    chrisv wrote:
    CrudeSausage wrote:

    I was willing to stick to Windows no matter what. Then, fTPM stuttering
    was introduced and remains unfixed without installing a physical TPM
    chip that all laptop manufacturers refuse to do.

    "AMD fTPM (firmware Trusted Platform Module) is known to cause
    intermittent system stutters, mouse lag, and audio dropouts on select
    Ryzen systems."

    You should have bought Intel, man! I'll never buy a crappy AMD CPU.

    Yep, Intel doesn't suffer from it. Meanwhile: ><https://www.theverge.com/2024/7/26/24206529/intel-13th-14th-gen-crashing-instability-cpu-voltage-q-a>
    Intel chips have their own set of problems.

    They *had* their problems, but are still fine choices, as I posted to
    you earlier this year in Message-ID: <[email protected]>

    Of their newer CPU's, their Core Ultra 7 270K Plus is arguably the
    best all-around CPU and a steal at $320. IMO, only someone who is
    *all* about max'ing out their gaming frame rates should considering
    paying more for one of AMD's 3D-cache chips.

    Considering all this, the migration to Mac is rather easy.

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  • From CrudeSausage@[email protected] to comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy on Wed Jun 17 08:12:31 2026
    From Newsgroup: comp.os.linux.advocacy

    On 6/16/26 10:50 PM, Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote:
    On Tue, 16 Jun 2026 22:49:37 +0000, Nick Charles wrote:

    "Wintel" is going down. Macs look better every day.

    Surely nobody in their right mind would simply trade one walled garden
    for another ...

    And it is definitely a walled garden. Not only can I not run MakeMKV on
    a Mac, but if I am ready and willing to buy a different Mac DVD ripper
    in the App Store, there is a rule there which prohibits DVD rippers from
    being able to extract encrypted DVD content. What the heck would be the
    point of buying one then? Just use Handbrake for free... until Apple
    decides that its developer isn't signed either.
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  • From CrudeSausage@[email protected] to comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy on Wed Jun 17 08:22:02 2026
    From Newsgroup: comp.os.linux.advocacy

    On 6/16/26 10:58 PM, Nick Charles wrote:
    On Jun 16, 2026 at 10:26:29 PM EDT, "CrudeSausage" <[email protected]> wrote:

    On 2026-06-16 8:23 p.m., Nick Charles wrote:
    On Jun 16, 2026 at 7:42:32 PM EDT, "vallor" <[email protected]> wrote: >>>
    At Tue, 16 Jun 2026 22:49:37 +0000, Nick Charles <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>
    On Jun 16, 2026 at 6:19:50 PM EDT, "CrudeSausage" <[email protected]> wrote:

    On 2026-06-16 5:56 p.m., chrisv wrote:
    CrudeSausage wrote:

    I was willing to stick to Windows no matter what. Then, fTPM stuttering
    was introduced and remains unfixed without installing a physical TPM >>>>>>>> chip that all laptop manufacturers refuse to do.

    "AMD fTPM (firmware Trusted Platform Module) is known to cause
    intermittent system stutters, mouse lag, and audio dropouts on select >>>>>>> Ryzen systems."

    You should have bought Intel, man! I'll never buy a crappy AMD CPU. >>>>>>
    Yep, Intel doesn't suffer from it. Meanwhile:
    <https://www.theverge.com/2024/7/26/24206529/intel-13th-14th-gen-crashing-instability-cpu-voltage-q-a>
    Intel chips have their own set of problems.

    I read enough, working around the annoying "pay to continue reading". Wow.
    "The damage is done and can't be fixed"? Good Times.

    Considering all this, the migration to Mac is rather easy.

    "Wintel" is going down. Macs look better every day.

    Can't play Windows games on Macs.

    Don't care. I'm an adult. I am no longer interested in computer games. >>
    Regardless, it's one thing Windows PCs can do that a Mac can't. Macs are
    getting much better in this respect, especially since the hardware is
    shown to be more than sufficient for the task, but publishers will
    always target the largest audience. Valve understood this and stopped
    trying to get publishers to make Linux ports; they simply got the
    Windows native ports to run in Linux.

    It is THE one thing Windows PCs can do. Again, I don't care.

    Not the one thing. Windows PCs, whether through Linux or Windows, can
    run a huge library of software that simply won't work on MacOS.

    However, given that Windows has no future at this point, what is stopping MS from buying/licensing/whatever Valve/Steam and moving everything to Linux? Games are arguably the most demanding software. If Windows games can rull well on Linux, surely Office - and everything else - can also.

    Even if Microsoft were to buy Valve, the corporation would immediately
    go on to screw it all up like they did every other company they
    purchased. Remember Skype? Remember Nokia? The people who built Valve
    from the ground up would probably prefer to be shot in the balls than
    let Microsoft's striking incompetence destroy their baby. As for moving
    to Linux, we all know that Microsoft would never be happy using an
    operating system where they don't fully control the system or the
    software within. The fact that they decimated the deal for Open Document
    to become a standard shows you how willing they are to let others
    control something.

    Remember, Apple bought Next and moved everything to Unix. Surely "the world's largest software company" can do the same thing. Assuming they want to.

    They might want to, especially since people now know that Microsoft is incapable of delivering Windows-based servers that are as reliable as Linux-based ones. It's the control they're not willing to sacrifice.
    They could, presumably, create their own Linux distribution and go on to create a set of proprietary standards which would make their Linux
    widely different from anyone else's, but I doubt people are interested
    in adopting a Microsoft Linux unless they are forced to do so through a hardware purchase where this operating system is pre-installed.

    The whole world today runs on Unix/Linux. Unix/Linux runs on everything from mainframes to watches. The entire internet runs on Linux. Apple everything runs on Unix. Android is Linux. Linux owns the PC web/app/DB server space.

    Meanwhile, Windows Island is shrinking every day. Since Windows is no longer the Cash Cow it was 15 years ago, perhaps MS is simply not interested in saving Windows? Perhaps all Microsoft is interested in at this point is Window's funeral expenses? The real money is now all going to AI and Azure.

    I don't think they will abandon Windows that easily, but they are
    definitely not interested in improving it anymore. At least not from
    where I stand.

    Anyone who wants to have total control over their hardware and play
    games is much better off getting an x86-64 machine and installing
    whichever Linux they prefer. Those who don't feel the need for total
    control are much better off with Apple. Absolutely no one should be
    opting for Windows anymore though. They should do whatever they can to
    move away from it.

    Agreed. Today, anything is a better option than Windows.

    I will defend Windows where necessary, but I truly believe that it is
    best for everyone to move on and let Windows live in the same bin that
    Atari TOS has been for a while.
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  • From CrudeSausage@[email protected] to comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy on Wed Jun 17 08:24:49 2026
    From Newsgroup: comp.os.linux.advocacy

    On 6/17/26 7:21 AM, chrisv wrote:
    Alan wrote:

    chrisv wrote:
    Alan wrote:
    chrisv wrote:
    Alan wrote:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proton_(software)

    "It is a collection of software and libraries combined with a patched >>>>>> version of Wine to improve performance and compatibility with Windows >>>>>> games."

    You get that Wine works on macOS too, right?

    But Proton, which improves gaming performance and compatibility, does >>>>> not.

    But there is nothing that would prevent them from making it for macOS, >>>> agreed?

    There is nothing to prevent that, nor is there anything preventing me
    willing the lottery.

    Exactly... ...so it's a CHOICE, not a technical limitation.

    You just *need* to have the last word, don't you?

    There's also no technical limitation of Linux having, say, the Adobe
    software that the Mac does.

    Adobe doesn't even have to release a Linux port of its software; they
    just have to make sure that it runs fine through Wine the way that games
    made by CD Projekt Red or Valve do. This way, they can assure Microsoft
    that they're faithful, all the while cozying up to the Linux people.
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  • From CrudeSausage@[email protected] to comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy on Wed Jun 17 08:29:11 2026
    From Newsgroup: comp.os.linux.advocacy

    On 6/17/26 7:35 AM, chrisv wrote:
    CrudeSausage wrote:

    chrisv wrote:
    CrudeSausage wrote:

    I was willing to stick to Windows no matter what. Then, fTPM stuttering >>>> was introduced and remains unfixed without installing a physical TPM
    chip that all laptop manufacturers refuse to do.

    "AMD fTPM (firmware Trusted Platform Module) is known to cause
    intermittent system stutters, mouse lag, and audio dropouts on select
    Ryzen systems."

    You should have bought Intel, man! I'll never buy a crappy AMD CPU.

    Yep, Intel doesn't suffer from it. Meanwhile:
    <https://www.theverge.com/2024/7/26/24206529/intel-13th-14th-gen-crashing-instability-cpu-voltage-q-a>
    Intel chips have their own set of problems.

    They *had* their problems, but are still fine choices, as I posted to
    you earlier this year in Message-ID: <[email protected]>

    Of their newer CPU's, their Core Ultra 7 270K Plus is arguably the
    best all-around CPU and a steal at $320. IMO, only someone who is
    *all* about max'ing out their gaming frame rates should considering
    paying more for one of AMD's 3D-cache chips.

    I'm happy to see that Intel is at least responding to increased
    competition from Apple and addressing the issues people have in terms of battery life. I'm still not entirely sure what I'm going to do
    computer-wise going forward, whether I will use Intel through Linux or
    jump headfirst into the Mac world. I just don't see how Windows can
    continue being my system of choice, especially considering how they cast
    out anyone who bought Office 2019 the way that they did. I've turned a
    blind eye to a lot of stuff and forgiven things I consider incredible reprehensible, like encouraging employees to "transition" their
    children, but the Office 2019 garbage, as trivial as it seems, is the
    straw that broke this camel's back.
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