Are Mac users really less fun-loving than those on other platforms? I
find that hard to believe somehow.
<https://www.tomshardware.com/laptops/macbooks/amd-taunts-apples-macbook-neo-for-failing-to-run-75-percent-of-top-pc-games-only-5-out-of-the-20-top-pc-games-work-on-the-neo-while-all-run-on-amds-budget-offerings>
Of course, Linux can probably run most if not all of the same games --
and it doesn’t need special versions like the Mac, it can run the
Windows versions. So maybe once someone figures out how to run Linux
on the Neo, it might become a decent machine ...
Are Mac users really less fun-loving than those on other platforms? I
find that hard to believe somehow.
<https://www.tomshardware.com/laptops/macbooks/amd-taunts-apples-macbook-neo-for-failing-to-run-75-percent-of-top-pc-games-only-5-out-of-the-20-top-pc-games-work-on-the-neo-while-all-run-on-amds-budget-offerings>
Of course, Linux can probably run most if not all of the same games --
and it doesn’t need special versions like the Mac, it can run the
Windows versions. So maybe once someone figures out how to run Linux
on the Neo, it might become a decent machine ...
On 6/14/2026 8:00 PM, Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote:
Are Mac users really less fun-loving than those on other platforms? I
find that hard to believe somehow.
<https://www.tomshardware.com/laptops/macbooks/amd-taunts-apples-
macbook-neo-for-failing-to-run-75-percent-of-top-pc-games-only-5-out-
of-the-20-top-pc-games-work-on-the-neo-while-all-run-on-amds-budget-
offerings>
Of course, Linux can probably run most if not all of the same games --
and it doesn’t need special versions like the Mac, it can run the
Windows versions. So maybe once someone figures out how to run Linux
on the Neo, it might become a decent machine ...
The Neo is a great choice if one wants macOS, as it goes with Apple's products. I just don't buy their crapware, it has no value to me, it's less than nothing.
On 2026-06-15 09:39, Joel W. Crump wrote:
On 6/14/2026 8:00 PM, Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote:
Are Mac users really less fun-loving than those on other platforms? I
find that hard to believe somehow.
<https://www.tomshardware.com/laptops/macbooks/amd-taunts-apples-
macbook-neo-for-failing-to-run-75-percent-of-top-pc-games-only-5-out-
of-the-20-top-pc-games-work-on-the-neo-while-all-run-on-amds-budget-
offerings>
Of course, Linux can probably run most if not all of the same games --
and it doesn’t need special versions like the Mac, it can run the
Windows versions. So maybe once someone figures out how to run Linux
on the Neo, it might become a decent machine ...
The Neo is a great choice if one wants macOS, as it goes with Apple's
products. I just don't buy their crapware, it has no value to me,
it's less than nothing.
And yet you're so triggered by them, you had to reply to tell us all how little you care.
On 6/15/2026 3:10 PM, Alan wrote:
On 2026-06-15 09:39, Joel W. Crump wrote:
On 6/14/2026 8:00 PM, Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote:
Are Mac users really less fun-loving than those on other platforms? I
find that hard to believe somehow.
<https://www.tomshardware.com/laptops/macbooks/amd-taunts-apples-
macbook-neo-for-failing-to-run-75-percent-of-top-pc-games-only-5-
out- of-the-20-top-pc-games-work-on-the-neo-while-all-run-on-amds-
budget- offerings>
Of course, Linux can probably run most if not all of the same games -- >>>> and it doesn’t need special versions like the Mac, it can run the
Windows versions. So maybe once someone figures out how to run Linux
on the Neo, it might become a decent machine ...
The Neo is a great choice if one wants macOS, as it goes with Apple's
products. I just don't buy their crapware, it has no value to me,
it's less than nothing.
And yet you're so triggered by them, you had to reply to tell us all
how little you care.
Frankly, yes, I am triggered, it irks the shit out of me that morons
think they have to pay through the nose for a mediocre product. But
then again, their minds are simply broken.
And how DOES linux run the Windows versions of games, exactly?
The Neo is a great choice if one wants macOS, as it goes with
Apple's products. I just don't buy their crapware, it has no value
to me, it's less than nothing.
And yet you're so triggered by them, you had to reply to tell us all
how little you care.
Frankly, yes, I am triggered, it irks the shit out of me that morons
think they have to pay through the nose for a mediocre product. But
then again, their minds are simply broken.
Except it's NOT a "mediocre product".
Just look at all the folks on YouTube who would never have touched a Mac
5 years ago who are now switching.
:-)
Alan wrote:
And how DOES linux run the Windows versions of games, exactly?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proton_(software)
On 2026-06-15 6:25 p.m., chrisv wrote:
Alan wrote:
And how DOES linux run the Windows versions of games, exactly?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proton_(software)
I'll bet that Anal will make claims that it doesn't do as good of a job
as Metal does, despite the fact that he's never tried it out. I won't
get him out of the filter to find out because I somehow find him even
more annoying than Michael Glasser, but here is what Brave Search has to say:
"Proton is a compatibility layer developed by Valve that translates
Windows DirectX and OpenGL instructions into Vulkan, allowing Windows
games to run on Linux with near-native performance because the
underlying x86 hardware remains unchanged.
Metal is Apple’s proprietary graphics API, and while tools like D3DMetal or DXMT can translate DirectX to Metal for macOS, this approach suffers
from significant performance penalties due to the need for x86-to-ARM
CPU emulation (via Rosetta) and the translation overhead of Apple’s Tile-Based Deferred Rendering architecture compared to standard immediate-mode rendering.
Linux/Proton: Benefits from mature DXVK and VKD3D translation layers, open-source driver support, and native x86 execution, resulting in 95%+ Windows game compatibility and performance often matching or exceeding Windows binaries.
macOS/Metal: Lacks a unified, native Steam integration like Proton,
relies on less mature translation tools, and incurs heavy CPU and GPU overhead, making it significantly less viable for high-performance 3A
gaming compared to Linux."
If you're a Windows user who even occasionally plays games and want to emigrate from the operating system, the smarter choice is Linux if
you're willing to learn even a little bit about the new operating
system. If you can't be bothered, go with the Mac and enjoy the
excellent hardware, but you'll soon understand how restrictive the new operating system can be, especially with software signing.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proton_(software)
"It is a collection of software and libraries combined with a patched >version of Wine to improve performance and compatibility with Windows >games."
You get that Wine works on macOS too, right?
Alan wrote:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proton_(software)
"It is a collection of software and libraries combined with a patched
version of Wine to improve performance and compatibility with Windows
games."
You get that Wine works on macOS too, right?
But Proton, which improves gaming performance and compatibility, does
not.
Alan wrote:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proton_(software)
"It is a collection of software and libraries combined with a patched
version of Wine to improve performance and compatibility with Windows
games."
You get that Wine works on macOS too, right?
But Proton, which improves gaming performance and compatibility, does
not.
Are Mac users really less fun-loving than those on other platforms? I
find that hard to believe somehow.
<https://www.tomshardware.com/laptops/macbooks/amd-taunts-apples-macbook-neo-for-failing-to-run-75-percent-of-top-pc-games-only-5-out-of-the-20-top-pc-games-work-on-the-neo-while-all-run-on-amds-budget-offerings>
Of course, Linux can probably run most if not all of the same games --
and it doesn’t need special versions like the Mac, it can run the
Windows versions. So maybe once someone figures out how to run Linux
on the Neo, it might become a decent machine ...
Are Mac users really less fun-loving than those on other platforms? I
find that hard to believe somehow.
<https://www.tomshardware.com/laptops/macbooks/amd-taunts-apples-macbook-neo-for-failing-to-run-75-percent-of-top-pc-games-only-5-out-of-the-20-top-pc-games-work-on-the-neo-while-all-run-on-amds-budget-offerings>
Of course, Linux can probably run most if not all of the same games --
and it doesn’t need special versions like the Mac, it can run the
Windows versions. So maybe once someone figures out how to run Linux
on the Neo, it might become a decent machine ...
chrisv wrote:
Alan wrote:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proton_(software)
"It is a collection of software and libraries combined with a patched
version of Wine to improve performance and compatibility with Windows
games."
You get that Wine works on macOS too, right?
But Proton, which improves gaming performance and compatibility, does
not.
But there is nothing that would prevent them from making it for macOS, >agreed?
Lawrence D�Oliveiro wrote:
Are Mac users really less fun-loving than those on other platforms? I
find that hard to believe somehow.
<https://www.tomshardware.com/laptops/macbooks/amd-taunts-apples-macbook-neo-for-failing-to-run-75-percent-of-top-pc-games-only-5-out-of-the-20-top-pc-games-work-on-the-neo-while-all-run-on-amds-budget-offerings>
Of course, Linux can probably run most if not all of the same games --
and it doesn�t need special versions like the Mac, it can run the
Windows versions. So maybe once someone figures out how to run Linux
on the Neo, it might become a decent machine ...
Look how scared everyone is of the Neo.
And it is selling like crazy.
Now Windows is tanking and everyone is panicking. Maybe if Windows had not >devolved into complete shit over the last 10 years...
On Jun 14, 2026 at 8:00:50 PM EDT, "Lawrence D´Oliveiro" <[email protected]d> wrote:
Are Mac users really less fun-loving than those on other platforms? I
find that hard to believe somehow.
<https://www.tomshardware.com/laptops/macbooks/amd-taunts-apples-macbook-neo-for-failing-to-run-75-percent-of-top-pc-games-only-5-out-of-the-20-top-pc-games-work-on-the-neo-while-all-run-on-amds-budget-offerings>
Of course, Linux can probably run most if not all of the same games --
and it doesn’t need special versions like the Mac, it can run the
Windows versions. So maybe once someone figures out how to run Linux
on the Neo, it might become a decent machine ...
Look how scared everyone is of the Neo. And it is selling like crazy.
Now Windows is tanking and everyone is panicking. Maybe if Windows had not devolved into complete shit over the last 10 years...
I was willing to stick to Windows no matter what. Then, fTPM stuttering
was introduced and remains unfixed without installing a physical TPM
chip that all laptop manufacturers refuse to do.
CrudeSausage wrote:
I was willing to stick to Windows no matter what. Then, fTPM stuttering
was introduced and remains unfixed without installing a physical TPM
chip that all laptop manufacturers refuse to do.
"AMD fTPM (firmware Trusted Platform Module) is known to cause
intermittent system stutters, mouse lag, and audio dropouts on select
Ryzen systems."
You should have bought Intel, man! I'll never buy a crappy AMD CPU.
On 2026-06-16 5:56 p.m., chrisv wrote:
CrudeSausage wrote:
I was willing to stick to Windows no matter what. Then, fTPM stuttering
was introduced and remains unfixed without installing a physical TPM
chip that all laptop manufacturers refuse to do.
"AMD fTPM (firmware Trusted Platform Module) is known to cause
intermittent system stutters, mouse lag, and audio dropouts on select
Ryzen systems."
You should have bought Intel, man! I'll never buy a crappy AMD CPU.
Yep, Intel doesn't suffer from it. Meanwhile: <https://www.theverge.com/2024/7/26/24206529/intel-13th-14th-gen-crashing-instability-cpu-voltage-q-a>
Intel chips have their own set of problems.
Considering all this, the migration to Mac is rather easy.
Alan wrote:
chrisv wrote:
Alan wrote:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proton_(software)
"It is a collection of software and libraries combined with a patched
version of Wine to improve performance and compatibility with Windows
games."
You get that Wine works on macOS too, right?
But Proton, which improves gaming performance and compatibility, does
not.
But there is nothing that would prevent them from making it for macOS,
agreed?
There is nothing to prevent that, nor is there anything preventing me
willing the lottery.
On 2026-06-16 12:25, chrisv wrote:
Alan wrote:
chrisv wrote:
Alan wrote:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proton_(software)
"It is a collection of software and libraries combined with a patched >>>> version of Wine to improve performance and compatibility with Windows >>>> games."
You get that Wine works on macOS too, right?
But Proton, which improves gaming performance and compatibility, does
not.
But there is nothing that would prevent them from making it for macOS,
agreed?
There is nothing to prevent that, nor is there anything preventing me willing the lottery.
Exactly... ...so it's a CHOICE, not a technical limitation.
On Jun 16, 2026 at 6:19:50 PM EDT, "CrudeSausage" <[email protected]> wrote:
On 2026-06-16 5:56 p.m., chrisv wrote:
CrudeSausage wrote:
I was willing to stick to Windows no matter what. Then, fTPM stuttering >>> was introduced and remains unfixed without installing a physical TPM
chip that all laptop manufacturers refuse to do.
"AMD fTPM (firmware Trusted Platform Module) is known to cause
intermittent system stutters, mouse lag, and audio dropouts on select
Ryzen systems."
You should have bought Intel, man! I'll never buy a crappy AMD CPU.
Yep, Intel doesn't suffer from it. Meanwhile: <https://www.theverge.com/2024/7/26/24206529/intel-13th-14th-gen-crashing-instability-cpu-voltage-q-a>
Intel chips have their own set of problems.
I read enough, working around the annoying "pay to continue reading". Wow. "The damage is done and can't be fixed"? Good Times.
Considering all this, the migration to Mac is rather easy.
"Wintel" is going down. Macs look better every day.
On Jun 16, 2026 at 6:19:50 PM EDT, "CrudeSausage" <[email protected]> wrote:
On 2026-06-16 5:56 p.m., chrisv wrote:
CrudeSausage wrote:
I was willing to stick to Windows no matter what. Then, fTPM stuttering >>>> was introduced and remains unfixed without installing a physical TPM
chip that all laptop manufacturers refuse to do.
"AMD fTPM (firmware Trusted Platform Module) is known to cause
intermittent system stutters, mouse lag, and audio dropouts on select
Ryzen systems."
You should have bought Intel, man! I'll never buy a crappy AMD CPU.
Yep, Intel doesn't suffer from it. Meanwhile:
<https://www.theverge.com/2024/7/26/24206529/intel-13th-14th-gen-crashing-instability-cpu-voltage-q-a>
Intel chips have their own set of problems.
I read enough, working around the annoying "pay to continue reading". Wow. "The damage is done and can't be fixed"? Good Times.
Considering all this, the migration to Mac is rather easy.
"Wintel" is going down. Macs look better every day.
At Tue, 16 Jun 2026 22:49:37 +0000, Nick Charles <[email protected]> wrote:
On Jun 16, 2026 at 6:19:50 PM EDT, "CrudeSausage" <[email protected]> wrote: >>
On 2026-06-16 5:56 p.m., chrisv wrote:
CrudeSausage wrote:
I was willing to stick to Windows no matter what. Then, fTPM stuttering >>>>> was introduced and remains unfixed without installing a physical TPM >>>>> chip that all laptop manufacturers refuse to do.
"AMD fTPM (firmware Trusted Platform Module) is known to cause
intermittent system stutters, mouse lag, and audio dropouts on select
Ryzen systems."
You should have bought Intel, man! I'll never buy a crappy AMD CPU.
Yep, Intel doesn't suffer from it. Meanwhile:
<https://www.theverge.com/2024/7/26/24206529/intel-13th-14th-gen-crashing-instability-cpu-voltage-q-a>
Intel chips have their own set of problems.
I read enough, working around the annoying "pay to continue reading". Wow. >> "The damage is done and can't be fixed"? Good Times.
Considering all this, the migration to Mac is rather easy.
"Wintel" is going down. Macs look better every day.
Can't play Windows games on Macs.
On 2026-06-16 6:49 p.m., Nick Charles wrote:
On Jun 16, 2026 at 6:19:50 PM EDT, "CrudeSausage" <[email protected]> wrote: >>
On 2026-06-16 5:56 p.m., chrisv wrote:
CrudeSausage wrote:
I was willing to stick to Windows no matter what. Then, fTPM stuttering >>>>> was introduced and remains unfixed without installing a physical TPM >>>>> chip that all laptop manufacturers refuse to do.
"AMD fTPM (firmware Trusted Platform Module) is known to cause
intermittent system stutters, mouse lag, and audio dropouts on select
Ryzen systems."
You should have bought Intel, man! I'll never buy a crappy AMD CPU.
Yep, Intel doesn't suffer from it. Meanwhile:
<https://www.theverge.com/2024/7/26/24206529/intel-13th-14th-gen-crashing-instability-cpu-voltage-q-a>
Intel chips have their own set of problems.
I read enough, working around the annoying "pay to continue reading". Wow. >> "The damage is done and can't be fixed"? Good Times.
Considering all this, the migration to Mac is rather easy.
"Wintel" is going down. Macs look better every day.
Like I've said in other posts, the moment you stop hearing the fans
while using your computer, you get addicted to the experience. It feels
nice to know that I can lay my laptop on the bed and not worry about air circulation being compromised and causing the unit to overheat.
The Mac isn't perfect, especially if games are an issue for you but also because of the strict signing for software, but it's a lot better than
what Microsoft and its manufacturing partners are selling.
On Jun 16, 2026 at 7:42:32 PM EDT, "vallor" <[email protected]> wrote:
At Tue, 16 Jun 2026 22:49:37 +0000, Nick Charles <[email protected]> wrote:
On Jun 16, 2026 at 6:19:50 PM EDT, "CrudeSausage" <[email protected]> wrote: >>>
On 2026-06-16 5:56 p.m., chrisv wrote:
CrudeSausage wrote:
I was willing to stick to Windows no matter what. Then, fTPM stuttering >>>>>> was introduced and remains unfixed without installing a physical TPM >>>>>> chip that all laptop manufacturers refuse to do.
"AMD fTPM (firmware Trusted Platform Module) is known to cause
intermittent system stutters, mouse lag, and audio dropouts on select >>>>> Ryzen systems."
You should have bought Intel, man! I'll never buy a crappy AMD CPU.
Yep, Intel doesn't suffer from it. Meanwhile:
<https://www.theverge.com/2024/7/26/24206529/intel-13th-14th-gen-crashing-instability-cpu-voltage-q-a>
Intel chips have their own set of problems.
I read enough, working around the annoying "pay to continue reading". Wow. >>> "The damage is done and can't be fixed"? Good Times.
Considering all this, the migration to Mac is rather easy.
"Wintel" is going down. Macs look better every day.
Can't play Windows games on Macs.
Don't care. I'm an adult. I am no longer interested in computer games.
On Jun 16, 2026 at 7:55:26 PM EDT, "CrudeSausage" <[email protected]> wrote:
On 2026-06-16 6:49 p.m., Nick Charles wrote:
On Jun 16, 2026 at 6:19:50 PM EDT, "CrudeSausage" <[email protected]> wrote: >>>
On 2026-06-16 5:56 p.m., chrisv wrote:
CrudeSausage wrote:
I was willing to stick to Windows no matter what. Then, fTPM stuttering >>>>>> was introduced and remains unfixed without installing a physical TPM >>>>>> chip that all laptop manufacturers refuse to do.
"AMD fTPM (firmware Trusted Platform Module) is known to cause
intermittent system stutters, mouse lag, and audio dropouts on select >>>>> Ryzen systems."
You should have bought Intel, man! I'll never buy a crappy AMD CPU.
Yep, Intel doesn't suffer from it. Meanwhile:
<https://www.theverge.com/2024/7/26/24206529/intel-13th-14th-gen-crashing-instability-cpu-voltage-q-a>
Intel chips have their own set of problems.
I read enough, working around the annoying "pay to continue reading". Wow. >>> "The damage is done and can't be fixed"? Good Times.
Considering all this, the migration to Mac is rather easy.
"Wintel" is going down. Macs look better every day.
Like I've said in other posts, the moment you stop hearing the fans
while using your computer, you get addicted to the experience. It feels
nice to know that I can lay my laptop on the bed and not worry about air
circulation being compromised and causing the unit to overheat.
My daughter has killed a couple Wintel laptops (over several years) doing exactly that. She finally bought a MacBook Air. Problem solved.
The Mac isn't perfect, especially if games are an issue for you but also
because of the strict signing for software, but it's a lot better than
what Microsoft and its manufacturing partners are selling.
Considering the junk OS that Microsoft is STILL selling and the Intel Space Heater hardware that everyone is STILL selling, that's not saying much. :-)
"Wintel" is going down. Macs look better every day.
Can't play Windows games on Macs.
Don't care. I'm an adult. I am no longer interested in computer
games.
On 2026-06-16 8:23 p.m., Nick Charles wrote:
On Jun 16, 2026 at 7:42:32 PM EDT, "vallor" <[email protected]> wrote: >>
At Tue, 16 Jun 2026 22:49:37 +0000, Nick Charles <[email protected]> wrote: >>>
On Jun 16, 2026 at 6:19:50 PM EDT, "CrudeSausage" <[email protected]> wrote:
On 2026-06-16 5:56 p.m., chrisv wrote:
CrudeSausage wrote:Yep, Intel doesn't suffer from it. Meanwhile:
I was willing to stick to Windows no matter what. Then, fTPM stuttering >>>>>>> was introduced and remains unfixed without installing a physical TPM >>>>>>> chip that all laptop manufacturers refuse to do.
"AMD fTPM (firmware Trusted Platform Module) is known to cause
intermittent system stutters, mouse lag, and audio dropouts on select >>>>>> Ryzen systems."
You should have bought Intel, man! I'll never buy a crappy AMD CPU. >>>>>
<https://www.theverge.com/2024/7/26/24206529/intel-13th-14th-gen-crashing-instability-cpu-voltage-q-a>
Intel chips have their own set of problems.
I read enough, working around the annoying "pay to continue reading". Wow. >>>> "The damage is done and can't be fixed"? Good Times.
Considering all this, the migration to Mac is rather easy.
"Wintel" is going down. Macs look better every day.
Can't play Windows games on Macs.
Don't care. I'm an adult. I am no longer interested in computer games.
Regardless, it's one thing Windows PCs can do that a Mac can't. Macs are getting much better in this respect, especially since the hardware is
shown to be more than sufficient for the task, but publishers will
always target the largest audience. Valve understood this and stopped
trying to get publishers to make Linux ports; they simply got the
Windows native ports to run in Linux.
Anyone who wants to have total control over their hardware and play
games is much better off getting an x86-64 machine and installing
whichever Linux they prefer. Those who don't feel the need for total
control are much better off with Apple. Absolutely no one should be
opting for Windows anymore though. They should do whatever they can to
move away from it.
On Jun 16, 2026 at 7:42:32 PM EDT, "vallor" <[email protected]> wrote:
At Tue, 16 Jun 2026 22:49:37 +0000, Nick Charles <[email protected]> wrote:
On Jun 16, 2026 at 6:19:50 PM EDT, "CrudeSausage" <[email protected]> wrote:
On 2026-06-16 5:56 p.m., chrisv wrote:
CrudeSausage wrote:
I was willing to stick to Windows no matter what. Then, fTPM stuttering >>>>> was introduced and remains unfixed without installing a physical TPM >>>>> chip that all laptop manufacturers refuse to do.
"AMD fTPM (firmware Trusted Platform Module) is known to cause
intermittent system stutters, mouse lag, and audio dropouts on select >>>> Ryzen systems."
You should have bought Intel, man! I'll never buy a crappy AMD CPU.
Yep, Intel doesn't suffer from it. Meanwhile:
<https://www.theverge.com/2024/7/26/24206529/intel-13th-14th-gen-crashing-instability-cpu-voltage-q-a>
Intel chips have their own set of problems.
I read enough, working around the annoying "pay to continue reading". Wow. >> "The damage is done and can't be fixed"? Good Times.
Considering all this, the migration to Mac is rather easy.
"Wintel" is going down. Macs look better every day.
Can't play Windows games on Macs.
Don't care. I'm an adult. I am no longer interested in computer games.
chrisv wrote:
Alan wrote:
chrisv wrote:
Alan wrote:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proton_(software)
"It is a collection of software and libraries combined with a patched >>>>> version of Wine to improve performance and compatibility with Windows >>>>> games."
You get that Wine works on macOS too, right?
But Proton, which improves gaming performance and compatibility, does
not.
But there is nothing that would prevent them from making it for macOS,
agreed?
There is nothing to prevent that, nor is there anything preventing me
willing the lottery.
Exactly... ...so it's a CHOICE, not a technical limitation.
On Jun 16, 2026 at 7:42:32 PM EDT, "vallor" <[email protected]> wrote:
<snip>
Can't play Windows games on Macs.
Don't care. I'm an adult. I am no longer interested in computer games.
chrisv wrote:
CrudeSausage wrote:
I was willing to stick to Windows no matter what. Then, fTPM stuttering
was introduced and remains unfixed without installing a physical TPM
chip that all laptop manufacturers refuse to do.
"AMD fTPM (firmware Trusted Platform Module) is known to cause
intermittent system stutters, mouse lag, and audio dropouts on select
Ryzen systems."
You should have bought Intel, man! I'll never buy a crappy AMD CPU.
Yep, Intel doesn't suffer from it. Meanwhile: ><https://www.theverge.com/2024/7/26/24206529/intel-13th-14th-gen-crashing-instability-cpu-voltage-q-a>
Intel chips have their own set of problems.
Considering all this, the migration to Mac is rather easy.
On Tue, 16 Jun 2026 22:49:37 +0000, Nick Charles wrote:
"Wintel" is going down. Macs look better every day.
Surely nobody in their right mind would simply trade one walled garden
for another ...
On Jun 16, 2026 at 10:26:29 PM EDT, "CrudeSausage" <[email protected]> wrote:
On 2026-06-16 8:23 p.m., Nick Charles wrote:
On Jun 16, 2026 at 7:42:32 PM EDT, "vallor" <[email protected]> wrote: >>>Regardless, it's one thing Windows PCs can do that a Mac can't. Macs are
At Tue, 16 Jun 2026 22:49:37 +0000, Nick Charles <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>
On Jun 16, 2026 at 6:19:50 PM EDT, "CrudeSausage" <[email protected]> wrote:
On 2026-06-16 5:56 p.m., chrisv wrote:
CrudeSausage wrote:Yep, Intel doesn't suffer from it. Meanwhile:
I was willing to stick to Windows no matter what. Then, fTPM stuttering
was introduced and remains unfixed without installing a physical TPM >>>>>>>> chip that all laptop manufacturers refuse to do.
"AMD fTPM (firmware Trusted Platform Module) is known to cause
intermittent system stutters, mouse lag, and audio dropouts on select >>>>>>> Ryzen systems."
You should have bought Intel, man! I'll never buy a crappy AMD CPU. >>>>>>
<https://www.theverge.com/2024/7/26/24206529/intel-13th-14th-gen-crashing-instability-cpu-voltage-q-a>
Intel chips have their own set of problems.
I read enough, working around the annoying "pay to continue reading". Wow.
"The damage is done and can't be fixed"? Good Times.
Considering all this, the migration to Mac is rather easy.
"Wintel" is going down. Macs look better every day.
Can't play Windows games on Macs.
Don't care. I'm an adult. I am no longer interested in computer games. >>
getting much better in this respect, especially since the hardware is
shown to be more than sufficient for the task, but publishers will
always target the largest audience. Valve understood this and stopped
trying to get publishers to make Linux ports; they simply got the
Windows native ports to run in Linux.
It is THE one thing Windows PCs can do. Again, I don't care.
However, given that Windows has no future at this point, what is stopping MS from buying/licensing/whatever Valve/Steam and moving everything to Linux? Games are arguably the most demanding software. If Windows games can rull well on Linux, surely Office - and everything else - can also.
Remember, Apple bought Next and moved everything to Unix. Surely "the world's largest software company" can do the same thing. Assuming they want to.
The whole world today runs on Unix/Linux. Unix/Linux runs on everything from mainframes to watches. The entire internet runs on Linux. Apple everything runs on Unix. Android is Linux. Linux owns the PC web/app/DB server space.
Meanwhile, Windows Island is shrinking every day. Since Windows is no longer the Cash Cow it was 15 years ago, perhaps MS is simply not interested in saving Windows? Perhaps all Microsoft is interested in at this point is Window's funeral expenses? The real money is now all going to AI and Azure.
Anyone who wants to have total control over their hardware and play
games is much better off getting an x86-64 machine and installing
whichever Linux they prefer. Those who don't feel the need for total
control are much better off with Apple. Absolutely no one should be
opting for Windows anymore though. They should do whatever they can to
move away from it.
Agreed. Today, anything is a better option than Windows.
Alan wrote:
chrisv wrote:
Alan wrote:
chrisv wrote:
Alan wrote:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proton_(software)
"It is a collection of software and libraries combined with a patched >>>>>> version of Wine to improve performance and compatibility with Windows >>>>>> games."
You get that Wine works on macOS too, right?
But Proton, which improves gaming performance and compatibility, does >>>>> not.
But there is nothing that would prevent them from making it for macOS, >>>> agreed?
There is nothing to prevent that, nor is there anything preventing me
willing the lottery.
Exactly... ...so it's a CHOICE, not a technical limitation.
You just *need* to have the last word, don't you?
There's also no technical limitation of Linux having, say, the Adobe
software that the Mac does.
CrudeSausage wrote:
chrisv wrote:
CrudeSausage wrote:
I was willing to stick to Windows no matter what. Then, fTPM stuttering >>>> was introduced and remains unfixed without installing a physical TPM
chip that all laptop manufacturers refuse to do.
"AMD fTPM (firmware Trusted Platform Module) is known to cause
intermittent system stutters, mouse lag, and audio dropouts on select
Ryzen systems."
You should have bought Intel, man! I'll never buy a crappy AMD CPU.
Yep, Intel doesn't suffer from it. Meanwhile:
<https://www.theverge.com/2024/7/26/24206529/intel-13th-14th-gen-crashing-instability-cpu-voltage-q-a>
Intel chips have their own set of problems.
They *had* their problems, but are still fine choices, as I posted to
you earlier this year in Message-ID: <[email protected]>
Of their newer CPU's, their Core Ultra 7 270K Plus is arguably the
best all-around CPU and a steal at $320. IMO, only someone who is
*all* about max'ing out their gaming frame rates should considering
paying more for one of AMD's 3D-cache chips.
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