• Re: Framework Steps Into It

    From Pancho@[email protected] to comp.os.linux.misc on Fri Oct 24 10:25:46 2025
    From Newsgroup: comp.os.linux.misc

    On 10/24/25 10:13, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
    On 24/10/2025 04:30, Bobbie Sellers wrote:


    On 10/23/25 13:16, rbowman wrote:
    On Wed, 22 Oct 2025 15:18:20 -0700, Bobbie Sellers wrote:



    On 10/22/25 13:41, rbowman wrote:
    On Wed, 22 Oct 2025 14:34:43 +0100, Pancho wrote:


    Personally, I think they are right. I think there is something wrong >>>>>> with our current political system. Big money/lobbying has too much >>>>>> influence. Free speech is being stifled.

    I can agree with that. However the No Kings thing is also sponsored by >>>>> big money that I want no part of.

        What big money is that?

    Are you naive enough to think Indivisible runs on school kid's dimes and >>> quarters?

         I don't know anything about the finances of the majority of the
    organizations and individuals seeking office except that they are working
    on bad information when they solicit me, which included DJT which
    came with the opportunity to tell him what I think of his behavior in
    no uncertain terms.

         Again if you are going to make remarks like "big money: it seems >> you should provide some real information rather then simply saying it
    is so.

         bliss - well when the FBI straightens its priorities they might >> be coming
    to take me away.  Ha, Ha, HO, Ho to the prison dark or the dungeon deep.
    When I drop dead in their custody they will wish they had left me alone.



    Its like her during and after Brexit, The 'we love Europe' parades had chartered busses, pre printed T shirts and leaflets etc etc.
    The pro brexit rallies just had people with hand printed signs or not
    signs at all.


    There are loads of England flags on the lampposts around here, someone
    paid for them. I think something to do with Tommy Robinson.

    I'm not quite clear what the political point of them is? However, they actually look quite pretty, a pleasant change from the normal Christmas decorations.


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  • From The Natural Philosopher@[email protected] to comp.os.linux.misc on Fri Oct 24 11:51:03 2025
    From Newsgroup: comp.os.linux.misc

    On 24/10/2025 10:25, Pancho wrote:
    On 10/24/25 10:13, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
    On 24/10/2025 04:30, Bobbie Sellers wrote:


    On 10/23/25 13:16, rbowman wrote:
    On Wed, 22 Oct 2025 15:18:20 -0700, Bobbie Sellers wrote:



    On 10/22/25 13:41, rbowman wrote:
    On Wed, 22 Oct 2025 14:34:43 +0100, Pancho wrote:


    Personally, I think they are right. I think there is something wrong >>>>>>> with our current political system. Big money/lobbying has too much >>>>>>> influence. Free speech is being stifled.

    I can agree with that. However the No Kings thing is also
    sponsored by
    big money that I want no part of.

        What big money is that?

    Are you naive enough to think Indivisible runs on school kid's dimes
    and
    quarters?

         I don't know anything about the finances of the majority of the >>> organizations and individuals seeking office except that they are
    working
    on bad information when they solicit me, which included DJT which
    came with the opportunity to tell him what I think of his behavior in
    no uncertain terms.

         Again if you are going to make remarks like "big money: it seems >>> you should provide some real information rather then simply saying it
    is so.

         bliss - well when the FBI straightens its priorities they might >>> be coming
    to take me away.  Ha, Ha, HO, Ho to the prison dark or the dungeon deep. >>> When I drop dead in their custody they will wish they had left me alone. >>>


    Its like her during and after Brexit, The 'we love Europe' parades had
    chartered busses, pre printed T shirts and leaflets etc etc.
    The pro brexit rallies just had people with hand printed signs or not
    signs at all.


    There are loads of England flags on the lampposts around here, someone
    paid for them. I think something to do with Tommy Robinson.

    Don't be silly. Tommy Robinson has almost no support anywhere and no one
    would give money to such a toxic meme.


    I'm not quite clear what the political point of them is? However, they actually look quite pretty, a pleasant change from the normal Christmas decorations.


    I would like to see the Union flag everywhere. Its very pretty and
    reminds us of a glorious past that is gone


    --
    When plunder becomes a way of life for a group of men in a society, over
    the course of time they create for themselves a legal system that
    authorizes it and a moral code that glorifies it.

    Frédéric Bastiat

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  • From Pancho@[email protected] to comp.os.linux.misc on Fri Oct 24 17:06:04 2025
    From Newsgroup: comp.os.linux.misc

    On 10/24/25 11:51, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

    There are loads of England flags on the lampposts around here, someone
    paid for them. I think something to do with Tommy Robinson.

    Don't be silly. Tommy Robinson has almost no support anywhere and no one would give money to such a toxic meme.


    I'm not quite clear what the political point of them is? However, they
    actually look quite pretty, a pleasant change from the normal
    Christmas decorations.


    I would like to see the Union flag everywhere.  Its very pretty and
    reminds us of a glorious past that is gone




    I'm talking about Biggin Hill, so there are also a couple of Spitfires,
    to remind us of our finest hour.

    Just did a google, no one seems to know who put them there, but most
    people think they look good.
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  • From rbowman@[email protected] to comp.os.linux.misc on Fri Oct 24 18:44:48 2025
    From Newsgroup: comp.os.linux.misc

    On Fri, 24 Oct 2025 10:14:44 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

    On 24/10/2025 04:47, Bobbie Sellers wrote:

    On 10/23/25 11:29, Rinaldi J. Montessi wrote:
    On 10/23/25 11:59, Bobbie Sellers wrote:

         ...This is presently
    the case with Transgendered folks, a tiny minority of American
    Citizens who are under attack from US states and Federal authorities.

    Seriously?  I think twerking and suggestive dancing in elementary
    schools is a bit premature.

    Is that an attack?

        I don't know but I doubt much of that is going on.
    I do know that outright lies have been told about surgery being done on
    children with no parental  consultations.
        I do know that many people do not understand the deep feelings
    which pervade the consciousness of a transgender individual.
        On the basis of that failure of imagination they advance
        measures
    to bar children from the use of restrooms segregated by sex and attempt
    to bar adults form the use of such facilities.  That is very cruel and
    stupid in my humble opinion.  It also leads directly to Home Schooling
    which is not a good thing in my opinion. Few parents have the knowledge
    required for such an endeavor.

            Mr.Trump in his deep and wide ignorance of matters
            aside from
    cheating on taxes stated that schools were sending home girls who had
    been boys and that is completely ridiculous.  He also considers that
    all transgender people are immoral and somehow sinful despite clear
    evidence in the Bible that transgendered folks existed before hand and
    were not condemned.

        I will say that some mentally disordered persons decide that
        they
    must be transgender and refuse to take their prescribed medications and
    make even more serious mistakes.  Suicide in my personal belief is a a
    very serious mistake.  No suicide eats chocolate afterwards.

        Adios, Rinaldi.

    bliss - Dell Precision 7730- PCLOS 2025.10 Linux 6.12.54-pclos1- KDE
    Plasma 6.5.0

    You dont cure mental illness with surgery.

    Yeah, they've given up on prefrontal lobotomies.

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  • From rbowman@[email protected] to comp.os.linux.misc on Fri Oct 24 18:50:53 2025
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    On Thu, 23 Oct 2025 23:09:53 -0700, Bobbie Sellers wrote:

    I cannot go out and March as I did in my youth or I would have
    been out
    there at the "No Kings Rally" and if you believe in the US Founding you
    would have been there too.

    I didn't march in my youth (except in the military) and I sure as hell am
    not marching with that passel of assholes.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gv1KEF8Uw2k
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  • From rbowman@[email protected] to comp.os.linux.misc on Fri Oct 24 18:54:41 2025
    From Newsgroup: comp.os.linux.misc

    On Fri, 24 Oct 2025 10:13:45 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

    Its like her during and after Brexit, The 'we love Europe' parades had chartered busses, pre printed T shirts and leaflets etc etc.
    The pro brexit rallies just had people with hand printed signs or not
    signs at all.

    The day before the demo there was a meeting to create signs, with
    suggestions and No Kings merch on offer. In case you missed the
    opportunity:

    https://store.indivisible.org/apparel/

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  • From rbowman@[email protected] to comp.os.linux.misc on Fri Oct 24 19:02:14 2025
    From Newsgroup: comp.os.linux.misc

    On Fri, 24 Oct 2025 11:51:03 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

    Don't be silly. Tommy Robinson has almost no support anywhere and no one would give money to such a toxic meme.

    https://www.dailysabah.com/opinion/op-ed/tommy-robinsons-zionist-
    pilgrimage

    Just another shabbos goy.
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  • From Bobbie Sellers@[email protected] to comp.os.linux.misc on Fri Oct 24 12:55:55 2025
    From Newsgroup: comp.os.linux.misc



    On 10/24/25 11:44, rbowman wrote:
    On Fri, 24 Oct 2025 10:14:44 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

    On 24/10/2025 04:47, Bobbie Sellers wrote:

    On 10/23/25 11:29, Rinaldi J. Montessi wrote:
    On 10/23/25 11:59, Bobbie Sellers wrote:

         ...This is presently
    the case with Transgendered folks, a tiny minority of American
    Citizens who are under attack from US states and Federal authorities. >>>>
    Seriously?  I think twerking and suggestive dancing in elementary
    schools is a bit premature.

    Is that an attack?

        I don't know but I doubt much of that is going on.
    I do know that outright lies have been told about surgery being done on
    children with no parental  consultations.
        I do know that many people do not understand the deep feelings >>> which pervade the consciousness of a transgender individual.
        On the basis of that failure of imagination they advance
        measures
    to bar children from the use of restrooms segregated by sex and attempt
    to bar adults form the use of such facilities.  That is very cruel and
    stupid in my humble opinion.  It also leads directly to Home Schooling
    which is not a good thing in my opinion. Few parents have the knowledge
    required for such an endeavor.

            Mr.Trump in his deep and wide ignorance of matters
            aside from
    cheating on taxes stated that schools were sending home girls who had
    been boys and that is completely ridiculous.  He also considers that
    all transgender people are immoral and somehow sinful despite clear
    evidence in the Bible that transgendered folks existed before hand and
    were not condemned.

        I will say that some mentally disordered persons decide that
        they
    must be transgender and refuse to take their prescribed medications and
    make even more serious mistakes.  Suicide in my personal belief is a a
    very serious mistake.  No suicide eats chocolate afterwards.

        Adios, Rinaldi.

    bliss - Dell Precision 7730- PCLOS 2025.10 Linux 6.12.54-pclos1- KDE
    Plasma 6.5.0

    You dont cure mental illness with surgery.

    That depends entirely on the surgery and on the mental illness.>
    Yeah, they've given up on prefrontal lobotomies.

    I took very little care of a former Marine who tried to commit suicide with
    his .45 semi-auto when he found out he was gay in the 1950s. Blinded
    himself
    and did a prefrontal destruction. He was on a different ward than I usually worked on and tended toward violent reactions to unfamiliar people.

    Well some people have but on the other hand convulsant therapy
    is still used. Caused some problems for one Transgender of my former
    acquaintance but it cleared up some notions regarding religion when the
    religionists in question sent her to a neurologist who helped her.
    She is/was pretty successful after that.

    bliss - nurses tend to meet all sorts of people.


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  • From Lawrence =?iso-8859-13?q?D=FFOliveiro?=@[email protected] to comp.os.linux.misc on Fri Oct 24 20:42:13 2025
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    On Fri, 24 Oct 2025 09:44:20 +0100, Pancho wrote:

    On 10/23/25 22:00, Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote:

    I’m not sure how you can “cancel” someone from using and developing
    Free software. The licences are irrevocable, remember -- there are
    no clauses in them that say you are not permitted to use some
    software just because someone doesn’t agree with your politics.

    Politically motivated attempts to stop people using the software are important to them, they do hurt them.

    You still haven’t explained how such a thing can be done.

    You can claim a specific boycott campaign is righteous, but claiming
    they are inherently insignificant is disingenuous.

    Where has there ever been a successful campaign to boycott Free software?
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  • From Lawrence =?iso-8859-13?q?D=FFOliveiro?=@[email protected] to comp.os.linux.misc on Fri Oct 24 20:43:12 2025
    From Newsgroup: comp.os.linux.misc

    On Fri, 24 Oct 2025 10:14:44 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

    You dont cure mental illness with surgery.

    I would describe that as a simplistically dualist preconception.
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  • From Lawrence =?iso-8859-13?q?D=FFOliveiro?=@[email protected] to comp.os.linux.misc on Fri Oct 24 21:09:36 2025
    From Newsgroup: comp.os.linux.misc

    On Fri, 24 Oct 2025 10:13:45 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

    Its like her during and after Brexit, The 'we love Europe' parades had chartered busses, pre printed T shirts and leaflets etc etc.
    The pro brexit rallies just had people with hand printed signs or not
    signs at all.

    Boris had that big purple bus with something to the effect of “£530
    million a week going to Europe, that could go to the NHS” painted prominently on the side.

    What happened to that £530 million a week? Is the NHS benefiting from it
    yet?
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  • From Charlie Gibbs@[email protected] to comp.os.linux.misc on Fri Oct 24 23:01:28 2025
    From Newsgroup: comp.os.linux.misc

    On 2025-10-24, Lawrence D’Oliveiro <[email protected]d> wrote:

    Where has there ever been a successful campaign to boycott Free software?

    Probably nowhere in the long term. But there have been successes in
    the short term. And then you get things like Microsoft's TCO fiasco...
    --
    /~\ Charlie Gibbs | Growth for the sake of
    \ / <[email protected]d> | growth is the ideology
    X I'm really at ac.dekanfrus | of the cancer cell.
    / \ if you read it the right way. | -- Edward Abbey
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  • From Lawrence =?iso-8859-13?q?D=FFOliveiro?=@[email protected] to comp.os.linux.misc on Sat Oct 25 01:05:38 2025
    From Newsgroup: comp.os.linux.misc

    On Fri, 24 Oct 2025 23:01:28 GMT, Charlie Gibbs wrote:

    On 2025-10-24, Lawrence D’Oliveiro <[email protected]d> wrote:

    Where has there ever been a successful campaign to boycott Free software?

    Probably nowhere in the long term. But there have been successes in
    the short term.

    Please mention one or two.

    And then you get things like Microsoft's TCO fiasco...

    Microsoft was completely outclassed.
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  • From rbowman@[email protected] to comp.os.linux.misc on Sat Oct 25 02:05:32 2025
    From Newsgroup: comp.os.linux.misc

    On Fri, 24 Oct 2025 12:55:55 -0700, Bobbie Sellers wrote:

    I took very little care of a former Marine who tried to commit
    suicide
    with
    his .45 semi-auto when he found out he was gay in the 1950s. Blinded
    himself and did a prefrontal destruction. He was on a different ward
    than I usually worked on and tended toward violent reactions to
    unfamiliar people.

    One recruit announced he was gay in a bid to get discharged. The DI took
    him to the center of the squad bay, handed him a broom, and told him to
    show us all what queers did. He then explained that they would go to his
    home town, and ask his parents, friends and teachers if he really was gay.
    He decided he wasn't.

    I watched about 5 minutes of 'Boots' before I figured out what it was
    about. Maybe the Crotch was a kinder, gentler place by the '90s.

    Gotta watch those 1911s. Bo Gritz tried to kill himself with one while
    seated in his pickup and missed.

    Apropos of the above another DI explained if you wanted to kill yourself
    by bleeding out you didn't make a couple of little slashes across your
    wrist like a teenage girl; you sliced the vein down the length of your forearm.




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  • From Bobbie Sellers@[email protected] to comp.os.linux.misc on Fri Oct 24 21:45:44 2025
    From Newsgroup: comp.os.linux.misc



    On 10/24/25 19:05, rbowman wrote:
    On Fri, 24 Oct 2025 12:55:55 -0700, Bobbie Sellers wrote:

    I took very little care of a former Marine who tried to commit
    suicide
    with
    his .45 semi-auto when he found out he was gay in the 1950s. Blinded
    himself and did a prefrontal destruction. He was on a different ward
    than I usually worked on and tended toward violent reactions to
    unfamiliar people.

    One recruit announced he was gay in a bid to get discharged. The DI took
    him to the center of the squad bay, handed him a broom, and told him to
    show us all what queers did. He then explained that they would go to his
    home town, and ask his parents, friends and teachers if he really was gay.
    He decided he wasn't.

    I watched about 5 minutes of 'Boots' before I figured out what it was
    about. Maybe the Crotch was a kinder, gentler place by the '90s.

    Gotta watch those 1911s. Bo Gritz tried to kill himself with one while
    seated in his pickup and missed.

    Apropos of the above another DI explained if you wanted to kill yourself
    by bleeding out you didn't make a couple of little slashes across your
    wrist like a teenage girl; you sliced the vein down the length of your forearm.


    One person probably a schizophrenic who merely thought that he was
    a transgender woman and did have surgery committed suicide with sleeping
    pills
    in a bathtub. I noticed that this person had left a window of her apartment open. I investigated and found her there and tried to get the policie
    to come
    finally flagged down a patrol car in the street to get the attention.

    Another a very amiable sort of model who was friendly not only with the old nurse but with very rough characters, returned to NYC got addicted
    to heroin
    after surgery and tried to use methadone to get off but still hung with the others and apparently missing the kick from heroin shot up and died.

    I think there was a third party who suicided but he was hebe-phenic sort
    of schisophrenic and when Ronald Reagan then Governor of California cut
    the medications that he depended on off the MediCal formulary, trying to self-medicate drank himself to death.

    Post-operative transgenders if formerly male are castrates. If they fail to
    recognize this before hand it may come as quite a shock. I don't know any female transgender persons but sometimes they must make errors in self-diagnosis.
    Some F>M transgenders are quite prominent in San Francisco but general they go go work and home at night hopefully to a loving relationship.
    I knew of M>F transgender personsl who married and raised adopted children who went off to college and careers.
    Most of my information is over 40 years old since I have not worked for some time having gotten post-virual exhaution when I was 46 yoa. That means
    I do not get around much any more. A trip to the Library is a big thing
    for me
    and I have to hold it to no more than once a week. A walk of 6 blocks can leave me having to rest for another 24 hours. I went to a bar today to
    drink with my friend's friends. Most of mine have died since I was out and about.
    One thing I can say is that the surgery done on children in regard to genitals are mostly done on a well-known category where their is apparent malformation of the genitals and it is or was done on these intersexual children when they are quit young. But sometimes the surgeons or
    the parents guess wrong about the inherent gender and the result
    is a very unhappy child. Mr.Trump now the arbiter of all knowlege
    denies with his foolish executive order well known facts about
    intersexuals and transgenders.
    In this he reveals his facist alignment as the first thing Hitler did when he got power was destroy the only clinic in the world which
    dealt with homosexuality and transgender persons. <https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/the-forgotten-history-of-the-worlds-first-trans-clinic/>

    Because of the negative attention directed by the fascistic radicals of the former Republican Party, rates of depression are going up for most
    of the
    LGBTQ youth community. Young transgenders are being denied proper
    medication which would delay the stress of puberty and feminizing or masculizing hormone therapy.
    These law makers who assent to these measures have very few
    medical licenses or even pre-medical degrees to their name. Maybe a law
    degree, some Doctors of Divinity or a real estate licence. They raise the notion that the transgenders want to use bathrooms to spy on the opposite
    sex but many of the same people want to deny sexual education to children
    who might become the victims of real sexual abusers who are not generally strange men or women in dresses but fathers, brothers, older sisters and
    even mothers.
    Again they try to restrict competition between genetic females
    and transgender girls and women but it they went by weight classes
    they would have fairer competitions beween boys and girls.
    But men have intruded into women's spaces as long as there was
    women's space. They don't generally put on dresses to do so.

    bliss


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  • From Joerg Walther@[email protected] to comp.os.linux.misc on Sat Oct 25 10:45:42 2025
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    Lawrence D´Oliveiro wrote:

    Boris had that big purple bus with something to the effect of “£530 >million a week going to Europe, that could go to the NHS” painted >prominently on the side.

    Nigel, not Boris.

    What happened to that £530 million a week? Is the NHS benefiting from it >yet?

    He knew he was lying when he put that on the bus.

    -jw-
    --
    And now for something completely different...
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  • From The Natural Philosopher@[email protected] to comp.os.linux.misc on Sat Oct 25 10:38:37 2025
    From Newsgroup: comp.os.linux.misc

    On 24/10/2025 20:02, rbowman wrote:
    On Fri, 24 Oct 2025 11:51:03 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

    Don't be silly. Tommy Robinson has almost no support anywhere and no one
    would give money to such a toxic meme.

    https://www.dailysabah.com/opinion/op-ed/tommy-robinsons-zionist-
    pilgrimage

    Just another shabbos goy.

    I am really surprised that you believe a single word of that website.

    Tommy has never espoused any sympathy for or antipathy towards, Jews:
    His crusade has been entirely about the Pakistani Muslims he grew up with.

    When I last attended a Brexit rally in parliament square which drew tens
    of thousands of people and caused MPs to be so scared they all left
    parliament by the back door, he held a rally up the street, At best 250
    people were attending.

    It doesn't matter what people say in the media,. He isn't a force in
    this country.
    --
    Renewable energy: Expensive solutions that don't work to a problem that doesn't exist instituted by self legalising protection rackets that
    don't protect, masquerading as public servants who don't serve the public.


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  • From The Natural Philosopher@[email protected] to comp.os.linux.misc on Sat Oct 25 10:43:03 2025
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    On 25/10/2025 09:45, Joerg Walther wrote:
    Lawrence D´Oliveiro wrote:

    Boris had that big purple bus with something to the effect of “£530
    million a week going to Europe, that could go to the NHS” painted
    prominently on the side.

    Nigel, not Boris.

    And it was £350m

    What happened to that £530 million a week? Is the NHS benefiting from it
    yet?

    He knew he was lying when he put that on the bus.


    It got absorbed into general government corruption.

    And technically it wasn't a lie. We were paying that much to the EU.
    What we got back was politely ignored :-)



    -jw-
    --
    Labour - a bunch of rich people convincing poor people to vote for rich
    people by telling poor people that "other" rich people are the reason
    they are poor.

    Peter Thompson

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  • From =?UTF-8?Q?St=C3=A9phane?= CARPENTIER@[email protected] to comp.os.linux.misc on Sat Oct 25 12:52:30 2025
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    Le 22-10-2025, Lawrence D’Oliveiro <[email protected]d> a écrit :

    Ideas about software freedom are indeed being taken up by politicians -- look at the “Digital Sovereignty” movement currently gathering steam in Europe.

    If I could thank Trump for anything, it would be that. He makes clear
    that Americans are not our friends and that proprietary software coming
    from the USA are not designed to help us.
    --
    Si vous avez du temps à perdre :
    https://scarpet42.gitlab.io
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  • From Carlos E.R.@[email protected] to comp.os.linux.misc on Sat Oct 25 15:06:27 2025
    From Newsgroup: comp.os.linux.misc

    On 2025-10-25 06:45, Bobbie Sellers wrote:
    On 10/24/25 19:05, rbowman wrote:
    On Fri, 24 Oct 2025 12:55:55 -0700, Bobbie Sellers wrote:

    ...


        One person probably a schizophrenic who merely thought that he was
    a transgender woman and did have surgery committed suicide with sleeping pills
    in a bathtub.  I noticed that this person had left a window of her apartment
    open.  I investigated and found her there and tried to get the policie
    to come
    finally flagged down a patrol car in the street to get the attention.

    ...

        Because of the negative attention directed by the fascistic radicals of
    the former Republican Party, rates of depression are going up for most
    of the
    LGBTQ youth community.   Young transgenders are  being denied proper medication which would delay the stress of puberty and feminizing or masculizing hormone therapy.
        These law makers who assent to these measures have very few
    medical licenses or even pre-medical degrees to their name. Maybe a law degree, some Doctors of Divinity or a real estate licence.  They raise the notion that the transgenders want to use bathrooms to spy on the opposite
    sex but many of the same people want to deny sexual education to children
    who might become the victims of real sexual abusers who are not generally strange men or women in dresses but fathers, brothers, older sisters and
    even mothers.
        Again they try to restrict competition between genetic females
    and transgender girls and women but it they went by weight classes
    they would have fairer competitions beween boys and girls.
        But men have intruded into women's spaces as long as there was women's space.  They don't generally put on dresses to do so.

    It is sad.
    --
    Cheers, Carlos.
    ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;
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  • From The Natural Philosopher@[email protected] to comp.os.linux.misc on Sat Oct 25 16:46:02 2025
    From Newsgroup: comp.os.linux.misc

    On 25/10/2025 13:52, Stéphane CARPENTIER wrote:
    Le 22-10-2025, Lawrence D’Oliveiro <[email protected]d> a écrit :

    Ideas about software freedom are indeed being taken up by politicians --
    look at the “Digital Sovereignty” movement currently gathering steam in >> Europe.

    If I could thank Trump for anything, it would be that. He makes clear
    that Americans are not our friends and that proprietary software coming
    from the USA are not designed to help us.

    ..IS not designed to help us...
    --
    "When one man dies it's a tragedy. When thousands die it's statistics."

    Josef Stalin


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  • From rbowman@[email protected] to comp.os.linux.misc on Sat Oct 25 19:55:17 2025
    From Newsgroup: comp.os.linux.misc

    On Fri, 24 Oct 2025 21:45:44 -0700, Bobbie Sellers wrote:

    Post-operative transgenders if formerly male are castrates. If
    they
    fail to recognize this before hand it may come as quite a shock.

    A meme I say recently was 'In 50 years nursing home attendants will be explaining to transexual Alzheimer patients what happened to their dick 20 times a day.'

    Cruel, but... It doesn't sound like a pleasant life. As I understand it
    the recreated vagina is basically a wound that requires painful
    maintenance to prevent it healing.

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  • From Bobbie Sellers@[email protected] to comp.os.linux.misc on Sat Oct 25 14:45:26 2025
    From Newsgroup: comp.os.linux.misc



    On 10/25/25 12:55, rbowman wrote:
    On Fri, 24 Oct 2025 21:45:44 -0700, Bobbie Sellers wrote:

    Post-operative transgenders if formerly male are castrates. If
    they
    fail to recognize this before hand it may come as quite a shock.

    A meme I say recently was 'In 50 years nursing home attendants will be explaining to transsexual Alzheimer patients what happened to their dick 20 times a day.'

    Cruel, but... It doesn't sound like a pleasant life. As I understand it
    the recreated vagina is basically a wound that requires painful
    maintenance to prevent it healing.

    The need for maintenance depends on the surgeon performing the procedure. People don't get surgery lightly unless they come with a lot of money and pot of stupidity. It has happened to at least one person who
    won a lottery but I did not know that one personally.

    It is irreversible generally speaking and comes with years of painful
    electrolysis or these days for people with dark hair on their faces/bodies
    laser removal.

    I doubt transsexuals with dementia of any sort will be asking that since they conform to their dreams. Maybe people who made bad
    decisions or who only thought they were transgender might ask such
    questions.

    bliss>

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  • From Nuno Silva@[email protected] to comp.os.linux.misc on Sun Oct 26 01:37:53 2025
    From Newsgroup: comp.os.linux.misc

    On 2025-10-25, Bobbie Sellers wrote:

    On 10/25/25 12:55, rbowman wrote:
    On Fri, 24 Oct 2025 21:45:44 -0700, Bobbie Sellers wrote:

    Post-operative transgenders if formerly male are castrates. If
    they
    fail to recognize this before hand it may come as quite a shock.

    A meme I say recently was 'In 50 years nursing home attendants will be
    explaining to transsexual Alzheimer patients what happened to their dick 20 >> times a day.'

    What percentage of the nursing home population can be expected to be
    trans?

    (Also, 50 years from now? Transsexuality isn't a new concept, wouldn't we
    be seeing this now already?)

    I doubt transsexuals with dementia of any sort will be asking that since they conform to their dreams. Maybe people who made bad
    decisions or who only thought they were transgender might ask such
    questions.

    Yeah, I was wondering, this scenario relies on forgetting stuff, but if
    one forgets stuff, isn't it more likely that what is remembered is the
    gender that person perceives deeply to be their gender, and not what
    some outsider says their gender is? Or is there something I'm missing
    about dementia?
    --
    Nuno Silva
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  • From rbowman@[email protected] to comp.os.linux.misc on Sun Oct 26 02:10:05 2025
    From Newsgroup: comp.os.linux.misc

    On Sat, 25 Oct 2025 14:45:26 -0700, Bobbie Sellers wrote:

    I doubt transsexuals with dementia of any sort will be asking that since they conform to their dreams. Maybe people who made bad decisions
    or who only thought they were transgender might ask such questions.

    Statistically not many will live long enough to reach dementia.

    https://read.dukeupress.edu/demography/article/59/3/1023/302037/ Differences-in-All-Cause-Mortality-Among

    I don't know the extent of the body mods, if any, but I knew someone who
    went from being a stocky, not particularly handsome, middle aged male to a stock, not very pretty, middle aged female. His pedantic, sort of pain in
    the ass personality did not undergo any transition. Rachel Levine comes to mind.

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  • From Bobbie Sellers@[email protected] to comp.os.linux.misc on Sat Oct 25 21:13:23 2025
    From Newsgroup: comp.os.linux.misc



    On 10/25/25 19:10, rbowman wrote:
    On Sat, 25 Oct 2025 14:45:26 -0700, Bobbie Sellers wrote:

    I doubt transsexuals with dementia of any sort will be asking that
    since they conform to their dreams. Maybe people who made bad decisions
    or who only thought they were transgender might ask such questions.

    Statistically not many will live long enough to reach dementia.

    Dementia can happen quite early. But looking at my generation how many people reach 88? My alleged mind might start to crack tomorrow or I could
    die as I go to the library or worse on return. Worse because my books could become overdue the worst of a reader's many sins.


    https://read.dukeupress.edu/demography/article/59/3/1023/302037/ Differences-in-All-Cause-Mortality-Among

    I don't know the extent of the body mods, if any, but I knew someone who
    went from being a stocky, not particularly handsome, middle aged male to a stock, not very pretty, middle aged female. His pedantic, sort of pain in
    the ass personality did not undergo any transition. Rachel Levine comes to mind.

    For the change of Personality it takes another sort of the therapy and rarest of all a desire to change what one is already content with being.
    This goes right along with the idea that stupid people never realize the
    limits of their stupidity or competence. This is the Dunning-Kroger
    effect.

    bliss

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  • From rbowman@[email protected] to comp.os.linux.misc on Sun Oct 26 07:22:38 2025
    From Newsgroup: comp.os.linux.misc

    On Sat, 25 Oct 2025 21:13:23 -0700, Bobbie Sellers wrote:

    Dementia can happen quite early. But looking at my generation
    how
    many
    people reach 88? My alleged mind might start to crack tomorrow or I
    could die as I go to the library or worse on return. Worse because my
    books could become overdue the worst of a reader's many sins.

    It was sad watching my brother's gears start to slip and his world get smaller. After a minor accident with a lathe his wife put the kabosh on
    his woodworking. He was quite good and would sell items at the farmer's markets and so forth. He didn't need the money and probably lost money but
    he enjoyed it. Then she made him park the RV. Next was the car. He liked
    to hike in the hills around Vandenberg but after a couple of incidents
    getting lost that was out and he was limited to walking around the block.
    No crossing streets. Towards the end he wouldn't eat and just wanted to
    check out but she kept him alive.

    If I start down that path I hope I can still remember how to run a .45 --
    and do it right. Gotta go for the medulla oblongata, not the stuff that
    isn't strictly necessary.



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  • From Bobbie Sellers@[email protected] to comp.os.linux.misc on Sat Oct 25 21:01:01 2025
    From Newsgroup: comp.os.linux.misc



    On 10/25/25 17:37, Nuno Silva wrote:
    On 2025-10-25, Bobbie Sellers wrote:

    On 10/25/25 12:55, rbowman wrote:
    On Fri, 24 Oct 2025 21:45:44 -0700, Bobbie Sellers wrote:

    Post-operative transgenders if formerly male are castrates. If
    they
    fail to recognize this before hand it may come as quite a shock.

    A meme I say recently was 'In 50 years nursing home attendants will be
    explaining to transsexual Alzheimer patients what happened to their dick 20 >>> times a day.'

    What percentage of the nursing home population can be expected to be
    trans?

    That would be the same as the occurence of transgenderism in the general population probably less than 1%. >
    (Also, 50 years from now? Transsexuality isn't a new concept, wouldn't we
    be seeing this now already?)

    Well it might be happening but I doubt transgenders will have any sot
    of reaction as they are living the dream. The psuedo -transgenders
    might show
    up a bit.


    I doubt transsexuals with dementia of any sort will be asking that
    since they conform to their dreams. Maybe people who made bad
    decisions or who only thought they were transgender might ask such
    questions.

    Yeah, I was wondering, this scenario relies on forgetting stuff, but if
    one forgets stuff, isn't it more likely that what is remembered is the
    gender that person perceives deeply to be their gender, and not what
    some outsider says their gender is? Or is there something I'm missing
    about dementia?

    That would be my expectation.
    Most would be happy to forget they has ever been a male or female.
    Some demented female to male transgenders might be asking that question?
    That is because f>m have more compromises to make than m>f because it is
    much harder to get a peris of your own that to get rid of a penis.

    bliss



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