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The app is the nearest thing to 'synaptic' - and thus
extremely useful for seeing what software IS out there.

Command line 'dnf' works ... but too often delivers a
huge number of results you can't sort out.

This issue HAS been multiply reported on Fedora sites.

Symptom ... starting the GUI starts refreshing the
cache ... but it only gets to 33% or 66% almost
always and then hangs entirely.

Running it as 'dnfdragors --ncurses' brings up a
crude (compared to OpenSUSE) text interface and
often (not always) it WILL complete loading the
cache. Alas it's SO crappy it's almost impossible
to search/install stuff.

"Yast/yast2" in OpenSUSE was GREAT. 'Synapic' is
GREAT. 'Octopi' and related in the Arch universe
are "fair". Search, research, see dependencies,
know what of 2000+ packages DO exist ... that's
just invaluable these days.

Anyway, given multiple complaints of the same
malfunction I hope Fedora will FIX it pretty
soon. For now I can, barely, get by with 'dnf'.
Alas 'yumex' is no longer in the repos ... though
you may be able to get it from an obscure repo,
dunno if modern dependencies will doom it.

Final bitch ... 'vncserver' produces a message
saying it is deprecated and will soon be removed
from the upstream. What's the matter - did it
work TOO smooth and easy ??? Probably some
horrible 'solution' in mind .....

BTW, if installing TigerVNC, edit .vnc/xstartup,
leave all as-is, BUT add "startxfce4 &" at
the bottom. Then "everything" works and looks
nice. Note VNC apps don't necessarily make
everything work, but normally 'good enough'.
Auth pop-ups seem to be an issue, also
multi-select in GUI file manager apps.

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On Fri, 6 Mar 2026 00:07:30 -0500, c186282 wrote:

The app is the nearest thing to 'synaptic' - and thus extremely useful
for seeing what software IS out there.

Command line 'dnf' works ... but too often delivers a huge number of
results you can't sort out.

This issue HAS been multiply reported on Fedora sites.

Symptom ... starting the GUI starts refreshing the cache ... but it only
gets to 33% or 66% almost always and then hangs entirely.

What dark crevice did you pull that out of? I installed it and it loaded
the repositories and displayed the available software with no problems. I seldom use it but I see no advantage over Discover which is installed in
the KDE version.

I started with a fresh install of 41 and now am at 43, upgrading at each release. At least in that timeframe dnfdragora wasn't included.
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On 3/6/26 00:58, rbowman wrote:

On Fri, 6 Mar 2026 00:07:30 -0500, c186282 wrote:

The app is the nearest thing to 'synaptic' - and thus extremely useful
for seeing what software IS out there.

Command line 'dnf' works ... but too often delivers a huge number of
results you can't sort out.

This issue HAS been multiply reported on Fedora sites.

Symptom ... starting the GUI starts refreshing the cache ... but it only
gets to 33% or 66% almost always and then hangs entirely.

What dark crevice did you pull that out of?

Right off my desktop.

And, as said, the Fedora bug groups say the same
more than once.

I installed it and it loaded
the repositories and displayed the available software with no problems. I seldom use it but I see no advantage over Discover which is installed in
the KDE version.

Dunno WHY it worked for you ... but it's NOT for a
lot of other people.

Note I do NOT use KDE. MAYbe that's a factor - but
not nearly a big enough one to make me install KDE.
No, No, NO !!!

I started with a fresh install of 41 and now am at 43, upgrading at each release. At least in that timeframe dnfdragora wasn't included.

Dnfdragora is in the most recent distro. It CAN be very
useful according to past experience. It WORKED on the
initial Live version I used to install ... but after
doing updates it STOPPED working.

With luck this will be fixed pretty quick.

Just telling the Truth.

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On Fri, 6 Mar 2026 01:24:05 -0500, c186282 wrote:

Note I do NOT use KDE. MAYbe that's a factor - but not nearly a big
enough one to make me install KDE.
No, No, NO !!!

What did you use? Xfce? It works in KDE but Discover is the KDE GUI
software manager.
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On 3/6/26 03:05, rbowman wrote:

On Fri, 6 Mar 2026 01:24:05 -0500, c186282 wrote:

Note I do NOT use KDE. MAYbe that's a factor - but not nearly a big
enough one to make me install KDE.
No, No, NO !!!

What did you use? Xfce? It works in KDE but Discover is the KDE GUI
software manager.

Yep, XFCE is the max I'm gonna install anywhere,
on any distro. Strongly pref LXDE.

Just HATE the 'fatter' ones.

In any case, this prob DOES apply to at
least XFCE-based. Not sure about others
yet but someone WAS complaining about MATE
as well in the bug reports.

AM running my damned ffmpeg app now on F43.
We'll SEE. 8 hours so far and still going.

Oh, and had to kinda nuke "SE Linux" ...
could not even make a systemd service
without it freaking. Maybe OK for a
departmental server, but for less, NO !
Why is Fedora so fascist ? Centos/RHEL
I can understand, but .....

Note the current ver of my ffmpeg thing
is 'blocking' ... ffmpeg is told to run
for x-minutes and then end. The pgm does
not loop - but ENDS. Systemd then starts
it again in a couple of seconds. Maybe not
ideal, but I've had SUCH bad luck with
other schemes.

DID get my NAS drives to work. Great !
Now I can save my vids there.

Tomorrow, WILL try to install VBox and
create a Trixie VM. Still like Deb much
more than the RPM universe - finer,
easier, saner, control.

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c186282 <[email protected]> wrote:

Command line 'dnf' works ... but too often delivers a
huge number of results you can't sort out.

sort/grep/less are often your best friends here in this situation.
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On 3/6/26 09:56, Rich wrote:

c186282 <[email protected]> wrote:

Command line 'dnf' works ... but too often delivers a
huge number of results you can't sort out.

sort/grep/less are often your best friends here in this situation.

They sort-of help ... but a well-made package GUI
is a LOT more useful.

Anyway, this is a multiply-reported bug so I think
it will be fixed pretty quick.

I don't think 'yumex' will install anymore - and it
is no longer included in the main repo.

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