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  • Re: [OT] Your Android phone could be artificially 'inflating' the network strength

    From Marion@[email protected] to misc.phone.mobile.iphone,comp.mobile.android on Thu Nov 6 18:10:45 2025
    From Newsgroup: comp.mobile.android

    badgolferman wrote:
    https://www.androidcentral.com/phones/carriers/your-android-phone-could-be-artificially-inflating-the-network-strength

    Hi badgolferman,

    Thanks for this information which is news to me even as I lament that on
    iOS, it's impossible to get graphical signal strength as you are aware.
    *Snit video purportedly detailing iOS showing Wi-Fi dBm over time*
    <https://youtu.be/7QaABa6DFIo>
    *It's a fact iOS devices can't even graph Wi-Fi signal strength over time*
    <https://groups.google.com/g/misc.phone.mobile.iphone/c/PZuec56EWB0>
    <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/misc.phone.mobile.iphone/PZuec56EWB0>

    Note that most of us don't use the "signal bars" for quite a few reasons.
    We use debuggers which report the signal strength dynamically in dBm.
    <https://i.postimg.cc/Gtywwn8f/signal01.jpg> cell signal strength graph
    <https://i.postimg.cc/xCbVQ2pj/signal02.jpg> cell signal strength graph
    <https://i.postimg.cc/CKFhMZtS/signal03.jpg> celltower realtime location
    <https://i.postimg.cc/q7JjJ77g/signal04.jpg> Wifi & cellular debugging
    etc.

    For Wi-Fi, we just turn on "verbose logging", which you can see here:
    <https://i.postimg.cc/nrFx476v/wifi05.jpg> Wi-Fi verbose logging
    <https://i.postimg.cc/4xgmTTgm/wifi01.jpg> graphical radio debuggers
    <https://i.postimg.cc/Hn05bQwG/wifi02.jpg> Wi-Fi & cellular utilities
    <https://i.postimg.cc/fLC4zcm6/wifi04.jpg> Many signal strength apps
    etc.

    None of that is possible on iOS, so I can understand the focus on those
    little signal bars (which, truth be told, I can barely see nowadays).

    With my advancing macular degeneration, I'll be lucky if I can see the
    signal bars, but still it's an interesting "trick" if it's occurring.

    The article appears to say the signal strength is inflated by 1 bar.
    Worse, carriers can remotely trigger this through over-the-air updates.

    Thanks to you, I doublechecked to see if the carriers were also inflating
    the dBm results, and apparently they can't because the "signal bars" aqre, apparently, a "carrier-defined abstraction" (which was news to me).

    Apparently the carrier can't influence the raw dBm values that these
    Android apps read directly from the modem's radio interface layer (RIL).

    REFERENCES:
    Signal Bar Inflation References:
    TechReviewer (Nov 2025):
    Signal bars follow no shared standard; carriers like AT&T, Verizon,
    and T-Mobile can push parameters to phones.
    https://techreviewer.com/articles/android-signal-bars-carrier-inflation

    Android Authority (2025):
    Found Google and carriers can exploit a hidden Android feature
    to show inflated bars.
    https://www.androidauthority.com/android-signal-bars-inflated-2025-article

    Android Central (2025):
    Reported Android's code allows carriers to push bars one level higher
    via OTA updates.
    https://www.androidcentral.com/phones/carriers/your-android-phone-could-be-artificially-inflating-the-network-strength

    Hindustan Times Tech (2025):
    Confirmed Google added a feature in Android's Carrier Config Manager
    that lets carriers inflate bars by one level.
    https://www.hindustantimes.com/technology/android-carrier-config-signal-bars-2025-article

    Pocket-Lint (2025):
    Reinforced that Google and carriers can manipulate signal bar display
    through Carrier Config Manager.
    https://www.pocket-lint.com/android-signal-bars-carrier-config-inflation-2025

    dBm Accuracy References:
    RSRF (Cellular Signal Strength Guide):
    dBm is a logarithmic unit representing actual signal power; precise
    and not manipulated.
    https://www.rsrf.com/cellular-signal-strength-guide

    Wilson Amplifiers (2025):
    Explained that bars are subjective, but dBm values are the best way
    to accurately measure mobile signal strength.
    https://www.wilsonamplifiers.com/blog/cell-signal-strength-dbm-vs-bars

    UberSignal (2025):
    Field Test Mode on iPhones and Android gives real-time dBm readings,
    far more accurate than bars.
    https://www.ubersignal.com/blog/how-to-read-cell-signal-strength-dbm

    SignalBoosters (2024):
    Recommended apps like Cellular-Z to measure dBm directly, noting this
    is the most reliable way to check reception.
    https://www.signalboosters.com/blog/cellular-z-app-dbm-readings

    Note that since this was originally posted to the Apple newsgroup,
    Apple sets the thresholds that map real dBm values into those bars. Just
    like on Android, the bars are not a universal standard and can be
    misleading. These thresholds are different from Android�s and can change across iOS versions.

    Carriers don�t directly control iPhone bar inflation the way they can with Android�s Carrier Config Manager, but Apple has historically adjusted bar algorithms after complaints (for example, the �Antennagate� issue with the iPhone 4 in 2010 led Apple to change how bars were displayed).

    On iPhone, you can access raw dBm values through Field Test Mode (*3001#12345#* in the Phone app). These readings are the actual signal strength from the modem and are not inflated.
    --
    I don't care if it's the truth about Apple or Google as long as it's the truth. --- Synchronet 3.21a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
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