• are+there+countries+where+tourists+cannot+buy+a+sim

    From micky@[email protected] to comp.mobile.android on Thu Apr 23 03:54:38 2026
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    https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-1-d&q=are+there+countries+where+tourists+cannot+buy+a+sim

    Yes, either can't or very difficult. Mentions Peru, India, Japan (data
    only), Pakistan, sometimes Brazil or South Africa

    China, Iran, Tajikistan, and Turkmenistan require mandatory, often
    extensive registration processes that can make obtaining a SIM as a
    tourist cumbersome

    CAnada 6 years ago, haven't read about now. But I think a USA resident
    can use his USA sim as if they were 18 more states, right? And vice
    versa.
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  • From Carlos E.R.@[email protected] to comp.mobile.android on Thu Apr 23 12:53:44 2026
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    On 2026-04-23 09:54, micky wrote:
    https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-1-d&q=are+there+countries+where+tourists+cannot+buy+a+sim

    Yes, either can't or very difficult. Mentions Peru, India, Japan (data only), Pakistan, sometimes Brazil or South Africa

    China, Iran, Tajikistan, and Turkmenistan require mandatory, often extensive registration processes that can make obtaining a SIM as a
    tourist cumbersome

    CAnada 6 years ago, haven't read about now. But I think a USA resident
    can use his USA sim as if they were 18 more states, right? And vice
    versa.

    In 2018 I bought a SIM card on Amazon before flying to Canada. Worked
    fine. In 2023 I did the same, but worked badly (I don't remember why,
    but I can find out my notes, perhaps), and had to buy another SIM
    locally from Bell-Canada.
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  • From Carlos E.R.@[email protected] to comp.mobile.android on Thu Apr 23 14:47:43 2026
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    On 2026-04-23 12:53, Carlos E.R. wrote:
    On 2026-04-23 09:54, micky wrote:
    https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-1-
    d&q=are+there+countries+where+tourists+cannot+buy+a+sim

    Yes, either can't or very difficult.  Mentions Peru, India, Japan (data
    only), Pakistan, sometimes Brazil or South Africa

      China, Iran, Tajikistan, and Turkmenistan require mandatory, often
    extensive registration processes that can make obtaining a SIM as a
    tourist cumbersome

    CAnada 6 years ago, haven't read about now. But I think a USA resident
    can use his USA sim as if they were 18 more states, right?   And vice
    versa.

    In 2018 I bought a SIM card on Amazon before flying to Canada. Worked
    fine.

    Forgot to say, it was an USA SIM, for T-Mobile, but sold by a German
    company.

    <https://www.amazon.es/dp/B01MG8QHIH>

    In 2023 I did the same, but worked badly (I don't remember why,
    but I can find out my notes, perhaps), and had to buy another SIM
    locally from Bell-Canada.


    Second time:
    <https://www.amazon.es/dp/B0728M4HGC>
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    Cheers, Carlos.
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  • From =?UTF-8?Q?J=C3=B6rg_Lorenz?=@[email protected] to comp.mobile.android on Thu Apr 23 22:01:23 2026
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    On 23.04.26 09:54, micky wrote:
    https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-1-d&q=are+there+countries+where+tourists+cannot+buy+a+sim

    Yes, either can't or very difficult. Mentions Peru, India, Japan (data only), Pakistan, sometimes Brazil or South Africa

    China, Iran, Tajikistan, and Turkmenistan require mandatory, often
    extensive registration processes that can make obtaining a SIM as a
    tourist cumbersome

    CAnada 6 years ago, haven't read about now. But I think a USA resident
    can use his USA sim as if they were 18 more states, right? And vice
    versa.

    Why should I care to buy a foreign SIM? Nobody knows this number and
    nowadays a lot of basic services (banking for instance) are tied to the
    regular number at home.

    My contract with the service provider allows me everything flat for all
    of Europe, Turkey, Canada and the USA including overseas territories.

    All this for CHF 46.95/month. The provider is a subsidiary of Swisscom.
    I guess that exists in other countries as well. Those countries that are
    not covered flat, packages can be bought for more or less reasonable
    prices for a limited period of time as addon.
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  • From Carlos E.R.@[email protected] to comp.mobile.android on Thu Apr 23 22:37:02 2026
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    On 2026-04-23 22:01, Jörg Lorenz wrote:
    On 23.04.26 09:54, micky wrote:
    https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-1-d&q=are+there+countries+where+tourists+cannot+buy+a+sim

    Yes, either can't or very difficult. Mentions Peru, India, Japan (data
    only), Pakistan, sometimes Brazil or South Africa

    China, Iran, Tajikistan, and Turkmenistan require mandatory, often
    extensive registration processes that can make obtaining a SIM as a
    tourist cumbersome

    CAnada 6 years ago, haven't read about now. But I think a USA resident
    can use his USA sim as if they were 18 more states, right? And vice
    versa.

    Why should I care to buy a foreign SIM? Nobody knows this number and
    nowadays a lot of basic services (banking for instance) are tied to the regular number at home.

    Not a problem. That's why phones have dual SIMs.


    My contract with the service provider allows me everything flat for all
    of Europe, Turkey, Canada and the USA including overseas territories.

    Mine does not.


    All this for CHF 46.95/month. The provider is a subsidiary of Swisscom.
    I guess that exists in other countries as well. Those countries that are
    not covered flat, packages can be bought for more or less reasonable
    prices for a limited period of time as addon.


    No, I can not buy flat packages for Canada at a reasonable price from my provider.
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    Cheers, Carlos.
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  • From =?UTF-8?Q?J=C3=B6rg_Lorenz?=@[email protected] to comp.mobile.android on Fri Apr 24 03:13:41 2026
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    On 23.04.26 22:37, Carlos E.R. wrote:
    On 2026-04-23 22:01, Jörg Lorenz wrote:
    On 23.04.26 09:54, micky wrote:
    https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-1-d&q=are+there+countries+where+tourists+cannot+buy+a+sim

    Yes, either can't or very difficult. Mentions Peru, India, Japan (data
    only), Pakistan, sometimes Brazil or South Africa

    China, Iran, Tajikistan, and Turkmenistan require mandatory, often
    extensive registration processes that can make obtaining a SIM as a
    tourist cumbersome

    CAnada 6 years ago, haven't read about now. But I think a USA resident
    can use his USA sim as if they were 18 more states, right? And vice
    versa.

    Why should I care to buy a foreign SIM? Nobody knows this number and
    nowadays a lot of basic services (banking for instance) are tied to the
    regular number at home.

    Not a problem. That's why phones have dual SIMs.

    The worst of all solutions. That is why Google and Apple do not sell
    these cripples.

    My contract with the service provider allows me everything flat for all
    of Europe, Turkey, Canada and the USA including overseas territories.

    Mine does not.


    All this for CHF 46.95/month. The provider is a subsidiary of Swisscom.
    I guess that exists in other countries as well. Those countries that are
    not covered flat, packages can be bought for more or less reasonable
    prices for a limited period of time as addon.


    No, I can not buy flat packages for Canada at a reasonable price from my provider.

    Why is Spain lagging the rest of the world so much in mobile communication?
    --
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  • From Arno Welzel@[email protected] to comp.mobile.android on Fri Apr 24 09:08:47 2026
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    micky, 2026-04-23 09:54:

    https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-1-d&q=are+there+countries+where+tourists+cannot+buy+a+sim

    Yes, either can't or very difficult. Mentions Peru, India, Japan (data only), Pakistan, sometimes Brazil or South Africa

    China, Iran, Tajikistan, and Turkmenistan require mandatory, often
    extensive registration processes that can make obtaining a SIM as a
    tourist cumbersome

    E-SIM providers which cover many countries exist. For example:

    <https://www.airalo.com>
    <https://worldwideesim.com>

    And also services which find a SIM provider for you:

    <https://simpackers.com>

    So there is usually no need to buy a SIM as tourist in the country where
    you are. You can get an E-SIM or a SIM before you start your travel.

    And China for example is covered by the "Asia" package of Arialo:

    <https://www.airalo.com/asia-esim>
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    https://arnowelzel.de
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  • From Arno Welzel@[email protected] to comp.mobile.android on Fri Apr 24 09:10:25 2026
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    Jörg Lorenz, 2026-04-24 03:13:

    On 23.04.26 22:37, Carlos E.R. wrote:
    [...]
    Not a problem. That's why phones have dual SIMs.

    The worst of all solutions. That is why Google and Apple do not sell
    these cripples.

    My Google Pixel 6a has dual sim - one physical SIM slot and additional
    SIMs as E-SIM. And yes, I can use two SIMs at the same time.

    Apple does not allow to use multiple SIMs at the same time?
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    https://arnowelzel.de
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  • From Carlos E.R.@[email protected] to comp.mobile.android on Fri Apr 24 11:09:25 2026
    From Newsgroup: comp.mobile.android

    On 2026-04-24 03:13, Jörg Lorenz wrote:
    On 23.04.26 22:37, Carlos E.R. wrote:
    On 2026-04-23 22:01, Jörg Lorenz wrote:
    On 23.04.26 09:54, micky wrote:
    https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-1-d&q=are+there+countries+where+tourists+cannot+buy+a+sim

    Yes, either can't or very difficult. Mentions Peru, India, Japan (data >>>> only), Pakistan, sometimes Brazil or South Africa

    China, Iran, Tajikistan, and Turkmenistan require mandatory, often
    extensive registration processes that can make obtaining a SIM as a
    tourist cumbersome

    CAnada 6 years ago, haven't read about now. But I think a USA resident >>>> can use his USA sim as if they were 18 more states, right? And vice
    versa.

    Why should I care to buy a foreign SIM? Nobody knows this number and
    nowadays a lot of basic services (banking for instance) are tied to the
    regular number at home.

    Not a problem. That's why phones have dual SIMs.

    The worst of all solutions. That is why Google and Apple do not sell
    these cripples.

    Which is why professionals don't buy them. They need two sims: one for personal use, another for the company. :-P


    My contract with the service provider allows me everything flat for all
    of Europe, Turkey, Canada and the USA including overseas territories.

    Mine does not.


    All this for CHF 46.95/month. The provider is a subsidiary of Swisscom.
    I guess that exists in other countries as well. Those countries that are >>> not covered flat, packages can be bought for more or less reasonable
    prices for a limited period of time as addon.


    No, I can not buy flat packages for Canada at a reasonable price from my
    provider.

    Why is Spain lagging the rest of the world so much in mobile communication?

    ha, ha.
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    ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;
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  • From Carlos E.R.@[email protected] to comp.mobile.android on Fri Apr 24 11:20:26 2026
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    On 2026-04-24 09:08, Arno Welzel wrote:
    micky, 2026-04-23 09:54:

    https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-1-d&q=are+there+countries+where+tourists+cannot+buy+a+sim

    Yes, either can't or very difficult. Mentions Peru, India, Japan (data
    only), Pakistan, sometimes Brazil or South Africa

    China, Iran, Tajikistan, and Turkmenistan require mandatory, often
    extensive registration processes that can make obtaining a SIM as a
    tourist cumbersome

    E-SIM providers which cover many countries exist. For example:

    <https://www.airalo.com>
    <https://worldwideesim.com>

    I looked at the second. They have a bunch of esims for Canada, all data
    only.

    So I looked at the first link. They have esims from Bell, data only, or data+text+calls, in several "sizes".



    And also services which find a SIM provider for you:

    <https://simpackers.com>


    «The best eSIM for Canada depends on your trip length and data needs, as
    well as the local network coverage. A local eSIM provides immediate
    access to mobile data, avoiding the need to find a physical SIM card
    upon arrival.»

    Ok, so an eSIM is a good thing for me, but my current phone doesn't
    support it.


    So there is usually no need to buy a SIM as tourist in the country where
    you are. You can get an E-SIM or a SIM before you start your travel.

    And China for example is covered by the "Asia" package of Arialo:

    <https://www.airalo.com/asia-esim>


    --
    Cheers, Carlos.
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  • From =?UTF-8?Q?J=C3=B6rg_Lorenz?=@[email protected] to comp.mobile.android on Fri Apr 24 12:06:44 2026
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    Am 24.04.26 um 11:09 schrieb Carlos E.R.:
    On 2026-04-24 03:13, Jörg Lorenz wrote:
    On 23.04.26 22:37, Carlos E.R. wrote:
    On 2026-04-23 22:01, Jörg Lorenz wrote:
    On 23.04.26 09:54, micky wrote:
    https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-1-d&q=are+there+countries+where+tourists+cannot+buy+a+sim

    Yes, either can't or very difficult. Mentions Peru, India, Japan (data >>>>> only), Pakistan, sometimes Brazil or South Africa

    China, Iran, Tajikistan, and Turkmenistan require mandatory, often >>>>> extensive registration processes that can make obtaining a SIM as a
    tourist cumbersome

    CAnada 6 years ago, haven't read about now. But I think a USA resident >>>>> can use his USA sim as if they were 18 more states, right? And vice >>>>> versa.

    Why should I care to buy a foreign SIM? Nobody knows this number and
    nowadays a lot of basic services (banking for instance) are tied to the >>>> regular number at home.

    Not a problem. That's why phones have dual SIMs.

    The worst of all solutions. That is why Google and Apple do not sell
    these cripples.

    Which is why professionals don't buy them. They need two sims: one for personal use, another for the company. :-P

    Perhaps in Spain but I doubt it strongly. Exactly this kind of use
    strictly forbids Dual-SIM. Companies want to manage their own phones themselves.

    I'm working in highly security sensitive areas and I can tell you: An
    absolute no go.
    --
    "Roma locuta, causa finita."
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  • From Frank Slootweg@[email protected] to comp.mobile.android on Fri Apr 24 15:10:12 2026
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    Carlos E.R. <[email protected]d> wrote:
    On 2026-04-24 03:13, J�rg Lorenz wrote:
    On 23.04.26 22:37, Carlos E.R. wrote:
    On 2026-04-23 22:01, J�rg Lorenz wrote:
    On 23.04.26 09:54, micky wrote:
    https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-1-d&q=are+there+countries+where+tourists+cannot+buy+a+sim

    Yes, either can't or very difficult. Mentions Peru, India, Japan (data >>>> only), Pakistan, sometimes Brazil or South Africa

    China, Iran, Tajikistan, and Turkmenistan require mandatory, often >>>> extensive registration processes that can make obtaining a SIM as a
    tourist cumbersome

    CAnada 6 years ago, haven't read about now. But I think a USA resident >>>> can use his USA sim as if they were 18 more states, right? And vice >>>> versa.

    Why should I care to buy a foreign SIM? Nobody knows this number and
    nowadays a lot of basic services (banking for instance) are tied to the >>> regular number at home.

    Not a problem. That's why phones have dual SIMs.

    The worst of all solutions. That is why Google and Apple do not sell
    these cripples.

    Which is why professionals don't buy them. They need two sims: one for personal use, another for the company. :-P

    As Arno also indicated, J�rg is of course talking non-sense, as usual.

    I just typed 'dual sim iphone' into Google and Google's suggested
    search terms were all the way from the 11 to the 17 (not implying there
    are no earlier dual SIM models).

    Dual SIM phones offer flexibility which some people want/need and
    others don't. Ain't choice wonderful?

    My contract with the service provider allows me everything flat for all >>> of Europe, Turkey, Canada and the USA including overseas territories.

    Mine does not.

    All this for CHF 46.95/month. The provider is a subsidiary of Swisscom. >>> I guess that exists in other countries as well. Those countries that are >>> not covered flat, packages can be bought for more or less reasonable
    prices for a limited period of time as addon.

    No, I can not buy flat packages for Canada at a reasonable price from my >> provider.

    Why is Spain lagging the rest of the world so much in mobile communication?

    ha, ha.

    Indeed, it has absolutely nothing to do with 'lagging', but with
    flexibility, price, cost, etc., etc.. For example, for a little over
    what J�rg spends more in a month, I paid my bill for the last *two
    years*! [1] (Single-SIM? :-)) Apples to oranges!? :-)

    [1] No, mine is not typical use, that's the whole point.
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  • From =?UTF-8?Q?J=C3=B6rg_Lorenz?=@[email protected] to comp.mobile.android on Fri Apr 24 19:00:02 2026
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    On 24.04.26 17:10, Frank Slootweg wrote:
    Indeed, it has absolutely nothing to do with 'lagging', but with flexibility, price, cost, etc., etc.. For example, for a little over
    what Jörg spends more in a month, I paid my bill for the last *two
    years*! [1] (Single-SIM? :-)) Apples to oranges!? :-)

    [1] No, mine is not typical use, that's the whole point.

    You are missing the whole point and the topic like so often.
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  • From Frank Slootweg@[email protected] to comp.mobile.android on Fri Apr 24 17:59:18 2026
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    J�rg Lorenz <[email protected]> wrote:
    On 24.04.26 17:10, Frank Slootweg wrote:
    Indeed, it has absolutely nothing to do with 'lagging', but with flexibility, price, cost, etc., etc.. For example, for a little over
    what J�rg spends more in a month, I paid my bill for the last *two
    years*! [1] (Single-SIM? :-)) Apples to oranges!? :-)

    [1] No, mine is not typical use, that's the whole point.

    You are missing the whole point and the topic like so often.

    I don't miss any point. If you think I do, kindly say *which* point I allegedly am missing.

    And pray tell, what do *you* think is "the topic" I missed?
    (Clue-by-four: There are many topics in this thread.)

    BTW, I see you silently snipped my other arguments, so I assume you
    either fully agree with them (so there's no need to comment) or it's
    your way of trying to hide the egg.
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  • From Arno Welzel@[email protected] to comp.mobile.android on Sat Apr 25 10:35:08 2026
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    Jörg Lorenz, 2026-04-24 12:06:

    Am 24.04.26 um 11:09 schrieb Carlos E.R.:
    [...]
    Which is why professionals don't buy them. They need two sims: one for
    personal use, another for the company. :-P

    Perhaps in Spain but I doubt it strongly. Exactly this kind of use
    strictly forbids Dual-SIM. Companies want to manage their own phones themselves.

    I have a "work profile" on my Android phone which is completely
    separated from my private profile and also completely managed by the
    company I work for. I can not even install apps there and data acccess
    from my private apps to data stored in the work profile is also not
    possible.

    I'm working in highly security sensitive areas and I can tell you: An absolute no go.

    Well - even Apple supports that using multiple eSIMs:

    <https://support.apple.com/en-us/109317>
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  • From Andy Burns@[email protected] to comp.mobile.android on Sat Apr 25 09:59:44 2026
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    Jörg Lorenz wrote:

    schrieb Carlos E.R.:

    Which is why professionals don't buy [iPhones]. They need two sims: one for >> personal use, another for the company. :-P

    Perhaps in Spain but I doubt it strongly. Exactly this kind of use
    strictly forbids Dual-SIM. Companies want to manage their own phones themselves.

    I'm working in highly security sensitive areas and I can tell you: An absolute no go.
    Where security is an issue, sure you ban BYOD; but plenty of workplaces
    cut costs by convincing employees to use their own devices for MFA
    and/or email.

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