• Anyone here ever play the TROPICO series?

    From Mike S.@[email protected] to comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action on Mon Apr 20 08:26:26 2026
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    Despite really liking games like SimCity and the Settlers, I never
    played any of the Tropico games. Anyone here have an opinion on any of
    them?

    Most of them are on sale right now and I was thinking of picking up
    Tropico Reloaded (which includes the first two games). I like the
    retro graphics. Or should I just try one of the later entries?
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  • From richard news@[email protected] to comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action on Mon Apr 20 14:52:49 2026
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    On 20/04/2026 13:26, Mike S. wrote:
    Despite really liking games like SimCity and the Settlers, I never
    played any of the Tropico games. Anyone here have an opinion on any of
    them?

    Most of them are on sale right now and I was thinking of picking up
    Tropico Reloaded (which includes the first two games). I like the
    retro graphics. Or should I just try one of the later entries?

    I bought Tropico years ago but with Epic/Steam freebies moved to Tropico
    4 and 5. They're good games - relatively simple city-building models but enough to keep you going, with the different factions and the links to
    the superpowers etc.

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  • From Spalls Hurgenson@[email protected] to comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action on Mon Apr 20 10:30:03 2026
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    On Mon, 20 Apr 2026 08:26:26 -0400, Mike S. <[email protected]> said
    this thing:

    Despite really liking games like SimCity and the Settlers, I never
    played any of the Tropico games. Anyone here have an opinion on any of
    them?

    Most of them are on sale right now and I was thinking of picking up
    Tropico Reloaded (which includes the first two games). I like the
    retro graphics. Or should I just try one of the later entries?

    I've played them off and on. Pretty much every game in the series
    except the last (what are they up to now, #6?) I've installed and
    tinkered about with. But I only really played #2 and #3 (I think? They
    all blur together) with any seriousness. The rest I mostly just
    installed to see how the series has changed.

    They're good games, certainly, but I never really got that into them.
    They tend to be a bit more structured than SimCity; the sandbox isn't
    quite as open as the limited terrain and the politics forces you down
    certain paths more. I enjoyed "SimCity" (and later "Cities Skylines")
    because you were essentially given a big empty slate and could build
    up your city however you wanted. In "Tropico", your aspirations are
    too often thwarted by having to diddle around with guerrilla attacks
    or making tourists happy or just not having enough land to lay out
    your city the way you'd like.

    Because of these restrictions, in many ways, the "Tropico" games
    remind me more of games like "Theme Hospital" or "Dungeon Keeper" than "SimCity". The closest "SimCity" comes was the 'scenarios' included in
    the earlier games (e.g., 'A tornado has hit the city; you have five
    years to clean it all up and get the economy running again' missions)

    Which, again, doesn't make the "Tropico" games bad... but they are
    tonally different from "SimCity". The city-builders were all about
    making your dream city; "Tropic" is more about building what you can
    under trying circumstances.

    As to the how the indovidual games of the series compare to
    themselves? Honestly, I find them pretty interchangable. The newer
    ones have more polish and features of course, and by #4 or 5 I think
    the whole thing started to feel a bit top-heavy; that features were
    being added for the sake of adding features, you know? But on the
    other hand, they've probably better tutorials and provide more info to
    help players guide their city on than do the first games. Visually,
    the older games are much rougher to look at but I still think they all
    hold up fairly well (then again, I still think "SimCity 2000" looks
    nice, so what do I know?).

    I don't think you'd go wrong with any of them, but #3 or #4 are
    probably the 'best' of the series. Or maybe I'm just saying that
    because that's where I stopped playing the series seriously and those
    are the ones I remember most clearly. ;-)

    Huh. This was a pretty wishy-washy review. I'm not sure if any of it
    will help you make a decision. But you asked. ;-)



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  • From rms@[email protected] to comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action on Mon Apr 20 10:08:57 2026
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    I never played any of the Tropico games. Anyone here have an opinion on
    any of
    them?

    The ubiquitous sales emails presence of these games in past years had me rolling my eyes and never giving them a chance :(

    rms

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  • From Mike S.@[email protected] to comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action on Mon Apr 20 19:22:58 2026
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    On Mon, 20 Apr 2026 10:30:03 -0400, Spalls Hurgenson <[email protected]> wrote:

    Because of these restrictions, in many ways, the "Tropico" games
    remind me more of games like "Theme Hospital" or "Dungeon Keeper" than >"SimCity". The closest "SimCity" comes was the 'scenarios' included in
    the earlier games (e.g., 'A tornado has hit the city; you have five
    years to clean it all up and get the economy running again' missions)

    This is good to know. Thank you for this.
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  • From Zaghadka@[email protected] to comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action on Mon Apr 20 23:00:34 2026
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    On Mon, 20 Apr 2026 08:26:26 -0400, in comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action, Mike
    S. wrote:

    Despite really liking games like SimCity and the Settlers, I never
    played any of the Tropico games. Anyone here have an opinion on any of
    them?

    Most of them are on sale right now and I was thinking of picking up
    Tropico Reloaded (which includes the first two games). I like the
    retro graphics. Or should I just try one of the later entries?

    One of my favorite games ever. Tropico is a banana republic simulator.

    Tropico 2 is the pirate island version, where you send out your
    privateers and rule your island by fear and/or booze.

    Tropico 3-5 are a major graphics update, full 3d, and a completely
    different approach to the series. Still good games, but a lot more micromanagement. Totally different developer. Kalypso took it over. There
    are some fun aspects, but the level of detail goes *way* up and may not
    be as satisfying as Tropico which takes a wider lens approach.

    All Tropicos are political sims rather than a city building game. You
    build things, sure, but you're doing it to please various factions, and
    if people get too unhappy, you get guerillas and have to start building
    guard posts and sending execution orders out for faction leaders that are causing problems. You can make your people happy and win elections
    without fixing them, or you can rule with an iron fist.

    You also, in some scenarios, have to negotiate Cold War politics where
    the imperial powers of Communism and Capitalism will court your tiny,
    tobacco (or mining, or canned pinapple,etc) producing island.

    Scenarios are where this game shines. It's a lousy sandbox game.

    I was never a fan of Tropico 2, but my wife still plays it. Kalypso's
    efforts were too much micromanagement for me. I didn't really want to
    manage car parks. They went too SimCity and I think they missed the
    point.

    The original Tropico can be brutally hard. Expect to fail. Definitely get yourself a copy of dgVoodoo2 for best results.
    --
    Zag

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  • From Mike S.@[email protected] to comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action on Tue Apr 21 09:52:55 2026
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    On Mon, 20 Apr 2026 23:00:34 -0500, Zaghadka <[email protected]>
    wrote:

    Scenarios are where this game shines. It's a lousy sandbox game.

    I generally prefer sandbox in these types of games but I want to try
    the game out anyway. I watched a let's play on youtube of the first
    game and it held my attention.

    The original Tropico can be brutally hard. Expect to fail. Definitely get >yourself a copy of dgVoodoo2 for best results.

    From what I read, the GOG version of the first two games work better
    than the Steam version out of the box but I will grab dgVoodoo2
    anyway.

    Thank you for the post and to everyone else that replied.
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