• Well, tried Pragmata then got a refund from Steam

    From PW@[email protected] to comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action on Tue Apr 21 10:31:18 2026
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    Decided it was just too silly for me. The reviewers are calling it "Dad-Space", a take off of DeadSpace which I liked and should go back
    to one of them, maybe the 1st if the graphics aren't too dated like
    Skyrim turned out to be. Uninstalled that. Was my favorite game for a
    while back in the day.

    Any way, the graphics are not that impressive. I had it maxed out.
    From what I saw, the only thing on the impressive side was the little
    annoying androids eyes and hair. I couldn't put up with that
    character any more, especially her backpacking on the main character.
    Weird. So may reviewers loved the relationship. I thought it was
    weird and sort of sick during the time I played it (thankfully not
    enough to not get this 5/5 maybe GOTY refunded - accoring to the
    reviews). I think some of these people have some problems and a huge
    gap in their lives.

    The combat was annoying. You can't just run and gun and shoot stuff.
    There are frustrating mini-games that must be completed before
    successfully being able to kill something. You can fire bullets or
    whatever but they didn't seem to count unless you correctly finished
    the minigames first, aligning up squares of energy or whatever and
    other stuff first. And connecting them. I read webpages on how to do
    it but it still did not sink in to my brain and, honestly, I did not
    care enough to try and figure it out in order to continue playing it
    so I could keep it. Over and over again. Every time.

    People are saying that CapCom did it again. But after a dozen hours
    or more of playing the last Resident Evil game, I uninstalled it.
    Bogus mandatory crafting system with very limited inventory slots,
    even after finding whatever to increase the amount of spaces in it,
    there were not enough for me to want to continue. I had to keep
    dropping good things to make space for crafting items. And it wasn't
    very scary. And dark because it was mostly inside and dark outside.
    Certainly, a couple of other Resident Evils that I have and played
    were much more enjoyable and scarier. Although, all jump scares which
    get old fast.

    And of course, checkpoint saves.

    -pw
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  • From Spalls Hurgenson@[email protected] to comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action on Tue Apr 21 13:28:19 2026
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    On Tue, 21 Apr 2026 10:31:18 -0600, PW <[email protected]> said
    this thing:

    Decided it was just too silly for me. The reviewers are calling it >"Dad-Space", a take off of DeadSpace which I liked and should go back
    to one of them, maybe the 1st if the graphics aren't too dated like
    Skyrim turned out to be. Uninstalled that. Was my favorite game for a
    while back in the day.


    Yeah, Capcom has been getting rave-reviews for "Pragmata" but I can't
    imagine playing it myself. The kid is creepy, and generally I don't
    enjoy the mechanics of their games anyway (case in point, the
    aforementioned reliance on save points). Plus, I'm not that fond of
    Capcom as a company anyway; a lot of their choices are user-hostile.
    So I was unlikely to ever buy or play "Pragmata". Still, your review
    confirms I've made the right choice.



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  • From PW@[email protected] to comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action on Tue Apr 21 18:17:13 2026
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    On Tue, 21 Apr 2026 13:28:19 -0400, Spalls Hurgenson <[email protected]> wrote:

    On Tue, 21 Apr 2026 10:31:18 -0600, PW <[email protected]> said
    this thing:

    Decided it was just too silly for me. The reviewers are calling it >>"Dad-Space", a take off of DeadSpace which I liked and should go back
    to one of them, maybe the 1st if the graphics aren't too dated like
    Skyrim turned out to be. Uninstalled that. Was my favorite game for a
    while back in the day.


    Yeah, Capcom has been getting rave-reviews for "Pragmata" but I can't
    imagine playing it myself. The kid is creepy, and generally I don't
    enjoy the mechanics of their games anyway (case in point, the
    aforementioned reliance on save points). Plus, I'm not that fond of
    Capcom as a company anyway; a lot of their choices are user-hostile.
    So I was unlikely to ever buy or play "Pragmata". Still, your review
    confirms I've made the right choice.



    *--

    Great Spalls! But you won't find any user reviews like mine on Steam
    or websites! :-)

    Might win GOTY after reading all of them, but in competition with
    their latest RE release. Console games for console minds!

    -pw
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  • From PW@[email protected] to comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action on Tue Apr 21 18:21:59 2026
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    On Tue, 21 Apr 2026 13:28:19 -0400, Spalls Hurgenson <[email protected]> wrote:

    On Tue, 21 Apr 2026 10:31:18 -0600, PW <[email protected]> said
    this thing:

    Decided it was just too silly for me. The reviewers are calling it >>"Dad-Space", a take off of DeadSpace which I liked and should go back
    to one of them, maybe the 1st if the graphics aren't too dated like
    Skyrim turned out to be. Uninstalled that. Was my favorite game for a
    while back in the day.


    Yeah, Capcom has been getting rave-reviews for "Pragmata" but I can't
    imagine playing it myself. The kid is creepy, and generally I don't
    enjoy the mechanics of their games anyway (case in point, the
    aforementioned reliance on save points). Plus, I'm not that fond of
    Capcom as a company anyway; a lot of their choices are user-hostile.
    So I was unlikely to ever buy or play "Pragmata". Still, your review
    confirms I've made the right choice.



    *--

    Yeah, the kid was creepy like you said, and a nag at such a young age
    (like they are in real life for the most part :-)), from the couple of
    hours or so that I played it.

    And of course, she had to be a blue-eyed, bleached blonde. Not a
    brunette with brown eyes. At least she wasn't Asian or Japanese.
    -pw
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  • From Justisaur@[email protected] to comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action on Wed Apr 22 08:52:02 2026
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    On 4/21/2026 9:31 AM, PW wrote:
    Decided it was just too silly for me. The reviewers are calling it "Dad-Space", a take off of DeadSpace which I liked and should go back
    to one of them, maybe the 1st if the graphics aren't too dated like
    Skyrim turned out to be. Uninstalled that. Was my favorite game for a
    while back in the day.

    Any way, the graphics are not that impressive. I had it maxed out.
    From what I saw, the only thing on the impressive side was the little annoying androids eyes and hair. I couldn't put up with that
    character any more, especially her backpacking on the main character.
    Weird. So may reviewers loved the relationship. I thought it was
    weird and sort of sick during the time I played it (thankfully not
    enough to not get this 5/5 maybe GOTY refunded - accoring to the
    reviews). I think some of these people have some problems and a huge
    gap in their lives.

    Hmm. I had only read good things about this, but not enough to even
    recognize the game name. Just punching in the game name it seems
    there's a lot of controversy. A quote from one of the comments "She
    looks like eye candy for the creeps"

    She does look a bit creepy in the way young beauty pageant dolled up
    girls do at a glance.

    On the other hand there's also a story about positive comments on it
    being deleted. *shrug* A lot of people are praising the
    father-daughter relationship 'done well' which is all I read before your
    post.

    It's wild it's got such a high rating on Steam of 96%. Looks like maybe there's some fuckery going on there, perhaps their algorithm deleting
    anything about it being creepy.
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    -Justisaur

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  • From PW@[email protected] to comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action on Wed Apr 22 12:53:38 2026
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    On Wed, 22 Apr 2026 08:52:02 -0700, Justisaur <[email protected]>
    wrote:

    On 4/21/2026 9:31 AM, PW wrote:
    Decided it was just too silly for me. The reviewers are calling it
    "Dad-Space", a take off of DeadSpace which I liked and should go back
    to one of them, maybe the 1st if the graphics aren't too dated like
    Skyrim turned out to be. Uninstalled that. Was my favorite game for a
    while back in the day.

    Any way, the graphics are not that impressive. I had it maxed out.
    From what I saw, the only thing on the impressive side was the little
    annoying androids eyes and hair. I couldn't put up with that
    character any more, especially her backpacking on the main character.
    Weird. So may reviewers loved the relationship. I thought it was
    weird and sort of sick during the time I played it (thankfully not
    enough to not get this 5/5 maybe GOTY refunded - accoring to the
    reviews). I think some of these people have some problems and a huge
    gap in their lives.

    Hmm. I had only read good things about this, but not enough to even >recognize the game name. Just punching in the game name it seems
    there's a lot of controversy. A quote from one of the comments "She
    looks like eye candy for the creeps"

    She does look a bit creepy in the way young beauty pageant dolled up
    girls do at a glance.

    Like JonBenet Ramsey for instance.


    On the other hand there's also a story about positive comments on it
    being deleted. *shrug* A lot of people are praising the
    father-daughter relationship 'done well' which is all I read before your >post.

    It's wild it's got such a high rating on Steam of 96%. Looks like maybe >there's some fuckery going on there, perhaps their algorithm deleting >anything about it being creepy.

    I might have not refunded it if there weren't stupid mini-games
    involved for every combat situation, the graphics were better, and
    that android wasn't so creepy :-) I don't know how many hours I had
    left to play it before Steam would have disallowed the refund.

    I doubt the other usuals here in this newsgroup would buy and play it,
    besides me who always gets suckered into the latest and greatest new
    titles lol I would be interested in a review here. MetaCritics
    reviews are all overwhelming so maybe I am too critical. A lot of
    people like the combat system and got used to it, but I couldn't.

    -pw
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  • From Spalls Hurgenson@[email protected] to comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action on Thu Apr 23 10:56:59 2026
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    On Wed, 22 Apr 2026 08:52:02 -0700, Justisaur <[email protected]>
    said this thing:

    On 4/21/2026 9:31 AM, PW wrote:
    Decided it was just too silly for me. The reviewers are calling it
    "Dad-Space", a take off of DeadSpace which I liked and should go back
    to one of them, maybe the 1st if the graphics aren't too dated like
    Skyrim turned out to be. Uninstalled that. Was my favorite game for a
    while back in the day.

    Any way, the graphics are not that impressive. I had it maxed out.
    From what I saw, the only thing on the impressive side was the little
    annoying androids eyes and hair. I couldn't put up with that
    character any more, especially her backpacking on the main character.
    Weird. So may reviewers loved the relationship. I thought it was
    weird and sort of sick during the time I played it (thankfully not
    enough to not get this 5/5 maybe GOTY refunded - accoring to the
    reviews). I think some of these people have some problems and a huge
    gap in their lives.

    Hmm. I had only read good things about this, but not enough to even >recognize the game name. Just punching in the game name it seems
    there's a lot of controversy. A quote from one of the comments "She
    looks like eye candy for the creeps"

    She does look a bit creepy in the way young beauty pageant dolled up
    girls do at a glance.

    On the other hand there's also a story about positive comments on it
    being deleted. *shrug* A lot of people are praising the
    father-daughter relationship 'done well' which is all I read before your >post.

    It's wild it's got such a high rating on Steam of 96%. Looks like maybe >there's some fuckery going on there, perhaps their algorithm deleting >anything about it being creepy.

    I don't doubt it's a good game. It may not be to my taste, but I think
    the reviews are (mostly) honest. I also think the design of the robot
    is just one of those things that doesn't cross the Japanese/Western
    culture divide perfectly. In this regard, "Pragmata" reminds me a lot
    of "Death Stranding"; it was another very well-reviewed game that I
    just could not get into.

    But that's okay. Just because I don't like something doesn't make it
    bad, and there are a lot of games I do enjoy. Different strokes.






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  • From Justisaur@[email protected] to comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action on Thu Apr 23 09:52:30 2026
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    On 4/22/2026 11:53 AM, PW wrote:
    On Wed, 22 Apr 2026 08:52:02 -0700, Justisaur <[email protected]>
    wrote:

    On 4/21/2026 9:31 AM, PW wrote:
    Decided it was just too silly for me. The reviewers are calling it
    "Dad-Space", a take off of DeadSpace which I liked and should go back
    to one of them, maybe the 1st if the graphics aren't too dated like
    Skyrim turned out to be. Uninstalled that. Was my favorite game for a
    while back in the day.

    Any way, the graphics are not that impressive. I had it maxed out.
    From what I saw, the only thing on the impressive side was the little
    annoying androids eyes and hair. I couldn't put up with that
    character any more, especially her backpacking on the main character.
    Weird. So may reviewers loved the relationship. I thought it was
    weird and sort of sick during the time I played it (thankfully not
    enough to not get this 5/5 maybe GOTY refunded - accoring to the
    reviews). I think some of these people have some problems and a huge
    gap in their lives.

    Hmm. I had only read good things about this, but not enough to even
    recognize the game name. Just punching in the game name it seems
    there's a lot of controversy. A quote from one of the comments "She
    looks like eye candy for the creeps"

    She does look a bit creepy in the way young beauty pageant dolled up
    girls do at a glance.

    Like JonBenet Ramsey for instance.


    On the other hand there's also a story about positive comments on it
    being deleted. *shrug* A lot of people are praising the
    father-daughter relationship 'done well' which is all I read before your
    post.

    It's wild it's got such a high rating on Steam of 96%. Looks like maybe
    there's some fuckery going on there, perhaps their algorithm deleting
    anything about it being creepy.

    I might have not refunded it if there weren't stupid mini-games
    involved for every combat situation, the graphics were better, and
    that android wasn't so creepy :-) I don't know how many hours I had
    left to play it before Steam would have disallowed the refund.


    It's only 2 hours total 'in game.' Which really isn't long enough for
    most full standard price games, better to refund asap if you think you
    aren't going to like it. It's enough to see something is a school
    project, asset flip, AI slop, so buggy or controls so bad it's
    unplayable and that's about it.

    I doubt the other usuals here in this newsgroup would buy and play it, besides me who always gets suckered into the latest and greatest new
    titles lol I would be interested in a review here. MetaCritics
    reviews are all overwhelming so maybe I am too critical. A lot of
    people like the combat system and got used to it, but I couldn't.

    One of the negative reviews I read said game play gets boring fast or something to that effect. It's got enough interest I might eventually
    buy and play it, as I like the idea of a good father-daughter game, but
    is it actually good? I don't care for quick time event combat, and even
    less for puzzles which it sounds like this combines. I'm patient too,
    I'll happily wait until it's deeply discounted, or given away free since
    it's not of enough interest to buy it right away especially given the controversy.
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  • From candycanearter07@[email protected] to comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action on Fri Apr 24 04:40:03 2026
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    PW <[email protected]> wrote at 00:21 this Wednesday (GMT):
    On Tue, 21 Apr 2026 13:28:19 -0400, Spalls Hurgenson
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    On Tue, 21 Apr 2026 10:31:18 -0600, PW <[email protected]> said
    this thing:

    Decided it was just too silly for me. The reviewers are calling it >>>"Dad-Space", a take off of DeadSpace which I liked and should go back
    to one of them, maybe the 1st if the graphics aren't too dated like >>>Skyrim turned out to be. Uninstalled that. Was my favorite game for a >>>while back in the day.


    Yeah, Capcom has been getting rave-reviews for "Pragmata" but I can't >>imagine playing it myself. The kid is creepy, and generally I don't
    enjoy the mechanics of their games anyway (case in point, the >>aforementioned reliance on save points). Plus, I'm not that fond of
    Capcom as a company anyway; a lot of their choices are user-hostile.
    So I was unlikely to ever buy or play "Pragmata". Still, your review >>confirms I've made the right choice.



    *--

    Yeah, the kid was creepy like you said, and a nag at such a young age
    (like they are in real life for the most part :-)), from the couple of
    hours or so that I played it.

    And of course, she had to be a blue-eyed, bleached blonde. Not a
    brunette with brown eyes. At least she wasn't Asian or Japanese.
    -pw


    Watching a letsplay of it, I honestly find the whole trope of "AI acts
    like little kid but is actually really powerful" a bit annoying. The kid
    is cute, though.
    --
    user <candycane> is generated from /dev/urandom
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