From Newsgroup: comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action

Grab it quick!
60 Minutes to Extinction: Escape Room https://www.gog.com/redeem/C5UP720092F5C0C216

rms
--- Synchronet 3.22a-Linux NewsLink 1.2

From Newsgroup: comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action


And here I thought you were going to make some comments on the new
James Bond game that's in development.

(Apparently being made by the guys who did the Hitman series, but
otherwise something I know very little about).

My interest in Bond has greatly diminished though, especially since
the Daniel Craig era when they worked so hard to make him dark and
gritty. "My" Bond was always Roger Moore, and I always associate a
certain light-hearted silliness with the character. The modern, more
serious takes on the character have never resonated well with me. I've
no idea what the newest Bond will be like, but he's got a hard road
ahead of him to convince me to show interest in the franchise again...
whether in cinema or video-games.


--- Synchronet 3.22a-Linux NewsLink 1.2

From Newsgroup: comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action

Spalls Hurgenson <[email protected]> wrote in news:[email protected]:

"My" Bond was always Roger Moore,

Accept no substitutes:

Connery *is* Bond. ;-�~
--
Clotho, Lachesis, Atropos -- the only sysadmins that matter
--- Synchronet 3.22a-Linux NewsLink 1.2

From Newsgroup: comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action

Spalls Hurgenson wrote:

And here I thought you were going to make some comments on the new
James Bond game that's in development.

(Apparently being made by the guys who did the Hitman series, but
otherwise something I know very little about).

My interest in Bond has greatly diminished though, especially since
the Daniel Craig era when they worked so hard to make him dark and
gritty. "My" Bond was always Roger Moore, and I always associate a
certain light-hearted silliness with the character. The modern, more
serious takes on the character have never resonated well with me. I've
no idea what the newest Bond will be like, but he's got a hard road
ahead of him to convince me to show interest in the franchise again... whether in cinema or video-games.

I saw Daniel Craig smile once in the modern more serious takes. He bends
down to tie his shoe and a girl gives him a look and he smiles about it.
Other than that, you may be right. Quite a difference from Pierce
Brosnan hanging upside down in the shitter kind of comical stuff.
--
War in the east
War in the west
War up north
War down south
War War
--- Synchronet 3.22a-Linux NewsLink 1.2

From Newsgroup: comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action

On Sun, 17 May 2026 11:27:42 -0400, Spalls Hurgenson <[email protected]> wrote:

And here I thought you were going to make some comments on the new
James Bond game that's in development.

(Apparently being made by the guys who did the Hitman series, but
otherwise something I know very little about).

My interest in Bond has greatly diminished though, especially since
the Daniel Craig era when they worked so hard to make him dark and
gritty. "My" Bond was always Roger Moore, and I always associate a
certain light-hearted silliness with the character. The modern, more
serious takes on the character have never resonated well with me. I've
no idea what the newest Bond will be like, but he's got a hard road
ahead of him to convince me to show interest in the franchise again... >whether in cinema or video-games.

*--

Agree 100%. Sean Connery and Roger Moore only for me. I never watched
a single JB move after them. Too phoney.

I watched a trailer for the the game, looks pretty cool. Going to
pass.

-pw
--- Synchronet 3.22a-Linux NewsLink 1.2

From Newsgroup: comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action

On Sun, 17 May 2026 15:58:25 -0000 (UTC), "Mark P. Nelson" <[email protected]> wrote:

Spalls Hurgenson <[email protected]> wrote in >news:[email protected]:

"My" Bond was always Roger Moore,

Accept no substitutes:

Connery *is* Bond. ;-�~

*--

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
--- Synchronet 3.22a-Linux NewsLink 1.2

From Newsgroup: comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action

On Sun, 17 May 2026 15:58:25 -0000 (UTC), "Mark P. Nelson" <[email protected]> said this thing:

Spalls Hurgenson <[email protected]> wrote in >news:[email protected]:

"My" Bond was always Roger Moore,

Accept no substitutes:
Connery *is* Bond. ;-�~

Bah! Connery-Bond never went to space! He never drove a Lotus
submarine-car! He never dressed up as a circus clown! He never battled
an assassin with heavy-metal dentistry! He never rode a
gondola-hovercraft through the streets of Venice! These are all the
marks of the TRUE James Bond! ;-)

--- Synchronet 3.22a-Linux NewsLink 1.2

From Newsgroup: comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action

On 5/17/2026 11:29 AM, Spalls Hurgenson wrote:

On Sun, 17 May 2026 15:58:25 -0000 (UTC), "Mark P. Nelson" <[email protected]> said this thing:

Spalls Hurgenson <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:

"My" Bond was always Roger Moore,

Accept no substitutes:
Connery *is* Bond. ;-þ~

Bah! Connery-Bond never went to space! He never drove a Lotus
submarine-car! He never dressed up as a circus clown! He never battled
an assassin with heavy-metal dentistry! He never rode a
gondola-hovercraft through the streets of Venice! These are all the
marks of the TRUE James Bond! ;-)

I actually liked the Daniel Craig Bonds....
--
I've done good in this world. Now I'm tired and just want to be a cranky
dirty old man.
--- Synchronet 3.22a-Linux NewsLink 1.2

From Newsgroup: comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action

Dimensional Traveler wrote:

On 5/17/2026 11:29 AM, Spalls Hurgenson wrote:

On Sun, 17 May 2026 15:58:25 -0000 (UTC), "Mark P. Nelson"
<[email protected]> said this thing:

Spalls Hurgenson <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:

"My" Bond was always Roger Moore,

Accept no substitutes:
Connery *is* Bond. ;-þ~

Bah! Connery-Bond never went to space! He never drove a Lotus
submarine-car! He never dressed up as a circus clown! He never battled
an assassin with heavy-metal dentistry! He never rode a
gondola-hovercraft through the streets of Venice! These are all the
marks of the TRUE James Bond! ;-)

I actually liked the Daniel Craig Bonds....

I liked them too, but I don't like you, and that must have been what was coming between me and them. Now that that's resolved I'm proud to say
that I own 3 Daniel Craig Bond films.
--
War in the east
War in the west
War up north
War down south
War War
--- Synchronet 3.22a-Linux NewsLink 1.2

From Newsgroup: comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action

On Sun, 17 May 2026 11:42:37 -0600, PW <[email protected]> said
this thing:

On Sun, 17 May 2026 11:27:42 -0400, Spalls Hurgenson ><[email protected]> wrote:

And here I thought you were going to make some comments on the new
James Bond game that's in development.

(Apparently being made by the guys who did the Hitman series, but
otherwise something I know very little about).

My interest in Bond has greatly diminished though, especially since
the Daniel Craig era when they worked so hard to make him dark and
gritty. "My" Bond was always Roger Moore, and I always associate a
certain light-hearted silliness with the character. The modern, more >>serious takes on the character have never resonated well with me. I've
no idea what the newest Bond will be like, but he's got a hard road
ahead of him to convince me to show interest in the franchise again... >>whether in cinema or video-games.

*--

Agree 100%. Sean Connery and Roger Moore only for me. I never watched
a single JB move after them. Too phoney.

I watched a trailer for the the game, looks pretty cool. Going to
pass.

I haven't seen anything about the game. (I tend not to look at
pre-release stuff about games anyway, because it's too often just hype
around stuff not supported by reality, and a James Bond game isn't
special enough for me to break that tendency). But I still have sore
feelings about previous Bond video-games ("Nightfire", "Quantum of
Solace", etc.) which were just such /average/ experiences that I
refuse to get excited about this new one.

Besides, it's not like I'm hurting for new games to play. My cup
runneth over, as they say. Just not with Bond games.





--- Synchronet 3.22a-Linux NewsLink 1.2

From Newsgroup: comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action

On Mon, 18 May 2026 06:56:37 -0700, Dimensional Traveler
<[email protected]> wrote:

I actually liked the Daniel Craig Bonds....

I grew up with Roger Moore but I don't really care for his movies
nowadays. I prefer Craig and Dalton's more serious Bonds.
--- Synchronet 3.22a-Linux NewsLink 1.2

From Newsgroup: comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action

"Mark P. Nelson" <[email protected]> looked up from reading the entrails of the porn spammer to utter "The Augury is good, the signs
say:

Spalls Hurgenson <[email protected]> wrote in >news:[email protected]:

"My" Bond was always Roger Moore,

Accept no substitutes:

Connery *is* Bond. ;-�~

I rather liked Daniel Craig, he's the first one to show us the *real*
Bond.

Not the fantasy of a gentleman spy who can be a bit of a bastard when necessary.

The cold blooded killer who will do whatever it takes to get the job
done for his country, including dying, and who can wear the mask of a
Gentleman to move in those circles.

The latter is the real bond, Connery, Moore, Lazenby, Dalton and Brosnan
all played the fantasy version who would not survive a day in real life.

How the fuck do you do the job when you tell everyone your name, and
every enemy spy agency knows what you look like? Most countries ARREST
SPIES, and literally every country on earth knows he is one.

Maybe that shit could have worked in the 60s and 70s, but with cameras everywhere and facial recognition, Bond gets outed before he can leave
the airport and is arrested.

Hell Mission Impossible is more believable than that.

Xocyll
--
I don't particularly want you to FOAD, myself. You'll be more of
a cautionary example if you'll FO And Get Chronically, Incurably,
Painfully, Progressively, Expensively, Debilitatingly Ill. So
FOAGCIPPEDI. -- Mike Andrews responding to an idiot in asr
--- Synchronet 3.22a-Linux NewsLink 1.2

From Newsgroup: comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action

On 5/18/2026 11:49 AM, Mike S. wrote:

On Mon, 18 May 2026 06:56:37 -0700, Dimensional Traveler
<[email protected]> wrote:

I actually liked the Daniel Craig Bonds....

I grew up with Roger Moore but I don't really care for his movies
nowadays. I prefer Craig and Dalton's more serious Bonds.

Each Bond is a product of their time.
--
I've done good in this world. Now I'm tired and just want to be a cranky
dirty old man.
--- Synchronet 3.22a-Linux NewsLink 1.2

From Newsgroup: comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action

Dimensional Traveler wrote:

On 5/18/2026 11:49 AM, Mike S. wrote:

On Mon, 18 May 2026 06:56:37 -0700, Dimensional Traveler
<[email protected]> wrote:

I actually liked the Daniel Craig Bonds....

I grew up with Roger Moore but I don't really care for his movies
nowadays. I prefer Craig and Dalton's more serious Bonds.

Each Bond is a product of their time.

That's a funny statement because it makes me wonder if President Trump
was reflected in any of the Bonds because he has been famous all his
life. I guess I won't name any names out of the series to avoid politics.
--
War in the east
War in the west
War up north
War down south
War War
--- Synchronet 3.22a-Linux NewsLink 1.2

From Newsgroup: comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action

Bah, adventure.


rms <[email protected]> wrote:

Grab it quick!
60 Minutes to Extinction: Escape Room https://www.gog.com/redeem/C5UP720092F5C0C216

rms

--
"God is not unjust; he will not forget your work and the love you have shown him as you have helped his people and continue to help them." --Hebrews 6:10. 2 much gaming, leaks, poops, aches, etc. over the quieter weekend.
Note: A fixed width font (Courier, Monospace, etc.) is required to see this signature correctly.
/\___/\ Ant(Dude) @ http://aqfl.net & http://antfarm.home.dhs.org.
/ /\ /\ \ Please nuke ANT if replying by e-mail.
| |o o| |
\ _ /
( )
--- Synchronet 3.22a-Linux NewsLink 1.2

From Newsgroup: comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action

Xocyll <[email protected]> wrote in news:11qm0lhn6dhrqhr1c6qbues3fbhb5sukos@ 4ax.com:

Not the fantasy of a gentleman spy who can be a bit of a bastard when necessary.

The cold blooded killer who will do whatever it takes to get the job
done for his country, including dying, and who can wear the mask of a Gentleman to move in those circles.

The latter is the real bond, Connery, Moore, Lazenby, Dalton and Brosnan
all played the fantasy version who would not survive a day in real life.

How the fuck do you do the job when you tell everyone your name, and
every enemy spy agency knows what you look like? Most countries ARREST SPIES, and literally every country on earth knows he is one.

Maybe that shit could have worked in the 60s and 70s, but with cameras everywhere and facial recognition, Bond gets outed before he can leave
the airport and is arrested.

You want realism, go with the likes of George Smiley.

Having been on the inside, Le Carr� knew his stuff, as did Fleming, but Fleming wrote
romanticized fantasy on purpose.His characters were not supposed to be anything like
real life, and that goes double for the movie versions. I mean did you ever meet a woman
who was actually named "Pussy Galore"?

(Wanders off, cackling dementedly)
--
Clotho, Lachesis, Atropos -- the only sysadmins that matter
--- Synchronet 3.22a-Linux NewsLink 1.2

From Newsgroup: comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action

Mark P. Nelson wrote:

Xocyll <[email protected]> wrote in news:11qm0lhn6dhrqhr1c6qbues3fbhb5sukos@ 4ax.com:

Not the fantasy of a gentleman spy who can be a bit of a bastard when
necessary.

The cold blooded killer who will do whatever it takes to get the job
done for his country, including dying, and who can wear the mask of a
Gentleman to move in those circles.

The latter is the real bond, Connery, Moore, Lazenby, Dalton and Brosnan
all played the fantasy version who would not survive a day in real life.

How the fuck do you do the job when you tell everyone your name, and
every enemy spy agency knows what you look like? Most countries ARREST
SPIES, and literally every country on earth knows he is one.

Maybe that shit could have worked in the 60s and 70s, but with cameras
everywhere and facial recognition, Bond gets outed before he can leave
the airport and is arrested.

You want realism, go with the likes of George Smiley.

Having been on the inside, Le Carré knew his stuff, as did Fleming, but Fleming wrote
romanticized fantasy on purpose.His characters were not supposed to be anything like
real life, and that goes double for the movie versions. I mean did you ever meet a woman
who was actually named "Pussy Galore"?

(Wanders off, cackling dementedly)

While you are here, what can you say about Robert Ludlum?
--
War in the east
War in the west
War up north
War down south
War War
--- Synchronet 3.22a-Linux NewsLink 1.2

From Newsgroup: comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action

On Mon, 18 May 2026 17:31:28 -0700, Dimensional Traveler
<[email protected]> said this thing:

On 5/18/2026 11:49 AM, Mike S. wrote:

On Mon, 18 May 2026 06:56:37 -0700, Dimensional Traveler
<[email protected]> wrote:

I actually liked the Daniel Craig Bonds....

I grew up with Roger Moore but I don't really care for his movies
nowadays. I prefer Craig and Dalton's more serious Bonds.

Each Bond is a product of their time.

Ain't that the truth.

It's not that I actively dislike the other Bonds. But when I think of
the gentleman spy, it's Roger Moore that comes to mind, and all others
are imitations of that stereotype. The Bond played by Daniel Craig was interesting... it just didn't scream "James Bond" to me. It felt more
like a Bourne movie. Which is, you know, fine... but it just isn't
what I expect when I want Bond.

Then again, as has been already pointed out, the entire gentleman spy
shtick --never very realistic to begin with-- is pretty played out
anyway. The situation which made it even the least bit plausible is
long past. It's probably time to put Bond out to pasture.

I'm not against new ideas. Just don't cloak them as new Bond flicks.


--- Synchronet 3.22a-Linux NewsLink 1.2

From Newsgroup: comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action

Spalls Hurgenson wrote:

Each Bond is a product of their time.

Ain't that the truth.

It's not that I actively dislike the other Bonds. But when I think of
the gentleman spy, it's Roger Moore that comes to mind, and all others
are imitations of that stereotype. The Bond played by Daniel Craig was interesting... it just didn't scream "James Bond" to me. It felt more
like a Bourne movie. Which is, you know, fine... but it just isn't
what I expect when I want Bond.

He was only in one of them, but you may find David Spade's Bond
intriguing in the Joe Dirt film.
--
War in the east
War in the west
War up north
War down south
War War
--- Synchronet 3.22a-Linux NewsLink 1.2

From Newsgroup: comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action

"Mark P. Nelson" <[email protected]> looked up from reading the entrails of the porn spammer to utter "The Augury is good, the signs
say:

Xocyll <[email protected]> wrote in news:11qm0lhn6dhrqhr1c6qbues3fbhb5sukos@ >4ax.com:

Not the fantasy of a gentleman spy who can be a bit of a bastard when
necessary.

The cold blooded killer who will do whatever it takes to get the job
done for his country, including dying, and who can wear the mask of a
Gentleman to move in those circles.

The latter is the real bond, Connery, Moore, Lazenby, Dalton and Brosnan
all played the fantasy version who would not survive a day in real life.

How the fuck do you do the job when you tell everyone your name, and
every enemy spy agency knows what you look like? Most countries ARREST
SPIES, and literally every country on earth knows he is one.

Maybe that shit could have worked in the 60s and 70s, but with cameras
everywhere and facial recognition, Bond gets outed before he can leave
the airport and is arrested.

You want realism, go with the likes of George Smiley.

Having been on the inside, Le Carr� knew his stuff, as did Fleming, but Fleming wrote
romanticized fantasy on purpose.His characters were not supposed to be anything like
real life, and that goes double for the movie versions.

I get that, but there comes a point at which is no longer romanticized
but a complete mockery.

And romanticized, only from the white male 1960s misogyny viewpoint.

Bond is all hands, all the time, seducing and half the women flat out
die.

Connery was the worst for this, and his last outing, Never say Never
again - the remake of Thunderball, he's an outright rapist.

Bad guys put him in machine to be killed, spa worker saves him. She's
worried about losing her job cause a customer almost got hurt.
He rewards her by blackmailing her into sex.

She saves his life, he rewards her with rape.

Not for Queen and Country, just for himself, while he should be out
pursuing the bad guys.

Romanticized hunh?
Only from the white, male, 1960s, misogynist, I can do whatever I like,
sex is my right, viewpoint.

I always wondered if that was in the script or if Connery wanted it, so
he could make Bond repugnant and never, ever be asked to play the role
again.

I mean did you ever meet a woman
who was actually named "Pussy Galore"?

There's probably a black American woman with a name equally absurd.
And then we can consider onlyfans.

(Wanders off, cackling dementedly)

Xocyll
--
I don't particularly want you to FOAD, myself. You'll be more of
a cautionary example if you'll FO And Get Chronically, Incurably,
Painfully, Progressively, Expensively, Debilitatingly Ill. So
FOAGCIPPEDI. -- Mike Andrews responding to an idiot in asr
--- Synchronet 3.22a-Linux NewsLink 1.2