• Happy 15th Birthday, Windows 8

    From Spalls Hurgenson@[email protected] to comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action on Tue Jun 2 20:23:47 2026
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    It seems like just yesterday I was hating you for the first time! Has
    it really been fifteen years since you introduced your awful interface
    to us? How time flies.

    Windows 8 was the one Microsoft OS I entirely skipped (well, I think I
    missed NT4 too... or maybe it was 3.5? I forget; somewhere in there.
    But that was more due to circumstance than choice. We just didn't get
    a chance to upgrade before Win2K came out). After testing the beta, I
    did my best to avoid Windows 8 entirely. I think I eventually ended up
    with a single laptop with Windows 8.1, but otherwise? We just didn't
    support it or recommend it or use it.

    Not that it really was that terrible an OS. I mean, I hated the
    interface but that was because it was completely unsuited to my use,
    and not really well-designed for desktop-centric work. It was messy
    and cluttered and took too much room and seemed more focused on
    appearance than utility. But that was, I think, the goal; it was an OS
    designed to look nice. And a lot of the under-the-hood stuff
    introduced were good improvements... enough so that when Win10
    revamped the shell the OS was praised for its performance. (It was a
    lot like Win7 did for Vista).

    But it was really hard to get past that interface.

    There were other reasons to dislike it too, of course. Microsoft
    locked DX10 to Windows8 and above. Microsoft used Windows 8 push their
    awful App store. It was also when they started using their OS to
    heavy-handedly push their other online services. A lot of features in
    the OS seemed designed to benefit Microsoft rather than make the lives
    of their customers better. Its competitors -- Linux and MacOS and
    ChromeOS-- started looking much more viable because of that.

    Steam started pushing its hardware offerings as a direct response to
    Windows 8 and the potential threat its app-store represented. This led
    to further development in SteamOS and later the Proton compatibility
    layer that made the underlying OS even more commoditized. So too with
    Google and its Chromebooks; a response to Microsoft trying to
    lock-down app distribution. Windows still has a lot of inertia to it,
    but more and more --thanks to attitudes and tactics by Microsoft
    started with the release of Windows 8-- people are considering
    alternatives. I think if ever Microsoft Windows, is dethroned, we'll
    look back at Windows 8 as the spark that lit the fire.

    So I guess it's not all that bad ;-)

    How did you feel about Windows 8.0?


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  • From Zaghadka@[email protected] to comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action on Tue Jun 2 22:33:43 2026
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    On Tue, 02 Jun 2026 20:23:47 -0400, in comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action,
    Spalls Hurgenson wrote:


    It seems like just yesterday I was hating you for the first time! Has
    it really been fifteen years since you introduced your awful interface
    to us? How time flies.

    Windows 8 was the one Microsoft OS I entirely skipped (well, I think I
    missed NT4 too... or maybe it was 3.5? I forget; somewhere in there.
    But that was more due to circumstance than choice. We just didn't get
    a chance to upgrade before Win2K came out). After testing the beta, I
    did my best to avoid Windows 8 entirely. I think I eventually ended up
    with a single laptop with Windows 8.1, but otherwise? We just didn't
    support it or recommend it or use it.

    Not that it really was that terrible an OS. I mean, I hated the
    interface but that was because it was completely unsuited to my use,
    and not really well-designed for desktop-centric work. It was messy
    and cluttered and took too much room and seemed more focused on
    appearance than utility. But that was, I think, the goal; it was an OS >designed to look nice. And a lot of the under-the-hood stuff
    introduced were good improvements... enough so that when Win10
    revamped the shell the OS was praised for its performance. (It was a
    lot like Win7 did for Vista).

    But it was really hard to get past that interface.

    There were other reasons to dislike it too, of course. Microsoft
    locked DX10 to Windows8 and above. Microsoft used Windows 8 push their
    awful App store. It was also when they started using their OS to >heavy-handedly push their other online services. A lot of features in
    the OS seemed designed to benefit Microsoft rather than make the lives
    of their customers better. Its competitors -- Linux and MacOS and
    ChromeOS-- started looking much more viable because of that.

    Steam started pushing its hardware offerings as a direct response to
    Windows 8 and the potential threat its app-store represented. This led
    to further development in SteamOS and later the Proton compatibility
    layer that made the underlying OS even more commoditized. So too with
    Google and its Chromebooks; a response to Microsoft trying to
    lock-down app distribution. Windows still has a lot of inertia to it,
    but more and more --thanks to attitudes and tactics by Microsoft
    started with the release of Windows 8-- people are considering
    alternatives. I think if ever Microsoft Windows, is dethroned, we'll
    look back at Windows 8 as the spark that lit the fire.

    So I guess it's not all that bad ;-)

    How did you feel about Windows 8.0?

    Upgraded immediately because the new task manager was *much* better than
    the NT4 pos 7 shipped with. I also enjoyed some of the Store apps. It got
    me started with Pinball FX 2, which was a lot of fun.

    So I got Start8 from Stardock and never looked back. Windows 8 was
    awesome once you house broke it (and figured out how to actually close a
    Store app).
    --
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  • From Mr Rob@[email protected] to comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action on Wed Jun 3 10:12:59 2026
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    On Tue, 02 Jun 2026 20:23:47 -0400, Spalls Hurgenson <[email protected]> wrote:


    It seems like just yesterday I was hating you for the first time! Has
    it really been fifteen years since you introduced your awful interface
    to us? How time flies.

    I tried hard not to intensely dislike Windows 8. I realised after a
    while that I was downloading apps to make it look and act more like
    Windows 7, so I just went back to Windows 7.

    Win8 was the only Windows that I did not like. I started on 2.0 and
    used every version thereafter. I wasn't overly endeared with Vista,
    but I didn't dislike it in the way that I disliked 8.

    My fondest Windows memory is moving to Windows 7 but I also missed XP
    for quite a long time.

    I still have 98, XP and Win7 on systems that I rarely ever use. I
    think I kid myself that I will play all of my XP era games again in
    particular one day.
    --
    Rob
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  • From Anssi Saari@[email protected] to comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action on Wed Jun 3 13:09:37 2026
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    Spalls Hurgenson <[email protected]> writes:

    How did you feel about Windows 8.0?

    I don't think I ever used it. My wife had some kind of a windows tablet
    for a while but I think that was Windows 10.

    But for the tablet usage, it's still pretty bad in Windows 11. I have
    this 13.3" Samsung laptop where the keyboard wraps all the way back and
    it goes to "tablet mode". At least there's a pen to use instead of a
    mouse, without it Windows on touch screen isn't a great experience.
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  • From Justisaur@[email protected] to comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action on Wed Jun 3 07:44:01 2026
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    On 6/2/2026 5:23 PM, Spalls Hurgenson wrote:

    How did you feel about Windows 8.0?


    I Skipped 8 as well, but went to 8.1, which was o.k. as they had
    reintroduced a 'normal' desktop as an option.
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  • From Spalls Hurgenson@[email protected] to comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action on Wed Jun 3 12:12:22 2026
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    On Tue, 02 Jun 2026 22:33:43 -0500, Zaghadka <[email protected]>
    said this thing:


    Upgraded immediately because the new task manager was *much* better than
    the NT4 pos 7 shipped with. I also enjoyed some of the Store apps. It got
    me started with Pinball FX 2, which was a lot of fun.

    So I got Start8 from Stardock and never looked back. Windows 8 was
    awesome once you house broke it (and figured out how to actually close a >Store app).

    I did something similar with my Windows 8.1 laptop; I can't remember
    if I used StartX or OpenStart or whatever shell-replacement. Even with
    that installed, though, there were still too many nooks and crannies
    filled with Metro that I was constantly annoyed.

    I actually preferred the old task-manager of Win7 and below. Yes, it
    had fewer features but I liked its no-frills interface. I'd much
    prefer that to the Win11 monstrosity Microsoft uses now. But to each
    their own ;-)




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  • From ant@[email protected] (Ant) to comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action on Thu Jun 4 07:12:30 2026
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    Ugh. I'd rather use Vista and Me over 8! Thanks God I got paid to test software under 8 at work, but still! Ugh! :P


    Spalls Hurgenson <[email protected]> wrote:

    It seems like just yesterday I was hating you for the first time! Has
    it really been fifteen years since you introduced your awful interface
    to us? How time flies.

    Windows 8 was the one Microsoft OS I entirely skipped (well, I think I
    missed NT4 too... or maybe it was 3.5? I forget; somewhere in there.
    But that was more due to circumstance than choice. We just didn't get
    a chance to upgrade before Win2K came out). After testing the beta, I
    did my best to avoid Windows 8 entirely. I think I eventually ended up
    with a single laptop with Windows 8.1, but otherwise? We just didn't
    support it or recommend it or use it.

    Not that it really was that terrible an OS. I mean, I hated the
    interface but that was because it was completely unsuited to my use,
    and not really well-designed for desktop-centric work. It was messy
    and cluttered and took too much room and seemed more focused on
    appearance than utility. But that was, I think, the goal; it was an OS designed to look nice. And a lot of the under-the-hood stuff
    introduced were good improvements... enough so that when Win10
    revamped the shell the OS was praised for its performance. (It was a
    lot like Win7 did for Vista).

    But it was really hard to get past that interface.

    There were other reasons to dislike it too, of course. Microsoft
    locked DX10 to Windows8 and above. Microsoft used Windows 8 push their
    awful App store. It was also when they started using their OS to heavy-handedly push their other online services. A lot of features in
    the OS seemed designed to benefit Microsoft rather than make the lives
    of their customers better. Its competitors -- Linux and MacOS and
    ChromeOS-- started looking much more viable because of that.

    Steam started pushing its hardware offerings as a direct response to
    Windows 8 and the potential threat its app-store represented. This led
    to further development in SteamOS and later the Proton compatibility
    layer that made the underlying OS even more commoditized. So too with
    Google and its Chromebooks; a response to Microsoft trying to
    lock-down app distribution. Windows still has a lot of inertia to it,
    but more and more --thanks to attitudes and tactics by Microsoft
    started with the release of Windows 8-- people are considering
    alternatives. I think if ever Microsoft Windows, is dethroned, we'll
    look back at Windows 8 as the spark that lit the fire.

    So I guess it's not all that bad ;-)

    How did you feel about Windows 8.0?
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  • From ant@[email protected] (Ant) to comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action on Thu Jun 4 07:15:35 2026
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    Mr Rob <[email protected]> wrote:
    On Tue, 02 Jun 2026 20:23:47 -0400, Spalls Hurgenson <[email protected]> wrote:


    It seems like just yesterday I was hating you for the first time! Has
    it really been fifteen years since you introduced your awful interface
    to us? How time flies.

    I tried hard not to intensely dislike Windows 8. I realised after a
    while that I was downloading apps to make it look and act more like
    Windows 7, so I just went back to Windows 7.

    Win8 was the only Windows that I did not like. I started on 2.0 and
    used every version thereafter. I wasn't overly endeared with Vista,
    but I didn't dislike it in the way that I disliked 8.

    My fondest Windows memory is moving to Windows 7 but I also missed XP
    for quite a long time.

    2000 was the best of all Windows versions IMO. I was XP Pro. for too
    long before being force to 7 HPE at home. Now, I am holding onto my 10
    Pro. as long as I can. Heh.


    I still have 98, XP and Win7 on systems that I rarely ever use. I
    think I kid myself that I will play all of my XP era games again in particular one day.

    I have updated 11 Pro., 10 Pro., 7 HPE, XP Pro., and 95 in VirtualBox VMs. :P --
    "Yours, O Lord, is the greatness and the power and the glory and the majesty and the splendor, for everything in heaven and earth is yours. Yours, O Lord, is the kingdom; you are exalted as head over all." --1 Chronicles 29:11. Decent hump day & Spider-Noir!
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  • From ant@[email protected] (Ant) to comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action on Thu Jun 4 07:16:30 2026
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    Mr Rob <[email protected]> wrote:
    ...
    Win8 was the only Windows that I did not like. I started on 2.0 and
    used every version thereafter. I wasn't overly endeared with Vista,
    but I didn't dislike it in the way that I disliked 8.

    Did you like v2? I started at 3.0 on 2 IBM PS/2 PCs.
    --
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  • From candycanearter07@[email protected] to comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action on Mon Jun 8 15:20:08 2026
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    Spalls Hurgenson <[email protected]> wrote at 00:23 this Wednesday (GMT):

    It seems like just yesterday I was hating you for the first time! Has
    it really been fifteen years since you introduced your awful interface
    to us? How time flies.

    Windows 8 was the one Microsoft OS I entirely skipped (well, I think I
    missed NT4 too... or maybe it was 3.5? I forget; somewhere in there.
    But that was more due to circumstance than choice. We just didn't get
    a chance to upgrade before Win2K came out). After testing the beta, I
    did my best to avoid Windows 8 entirely. I think I eventually ended up
    with a single laptop with Windows 8.1, but otherwise? We just didn't
    support it or recommend it or use it.

    Not that it really was that terrible an OS. I mean, I hated the
    interface but that was because it was completely unsuited to my use,
    and not really well-designed for desktop-centric work. It was messy
    and cluttered and took too much room and seemed more focused on
    appearance than utility. But that was, I think, the goal; it was an OS designed to look nice. And a lot of the under-the-hood stuff
    introduced were good improvements... enough so that when Win10
    revamped the shell the OS was praised for its performance. (It was a
    lot like Win7 did for Vista).

    But it was really hard to get past that interface.

    There were other reasons to dislike it too, of course. Microsoft
    locked DX10 to Windows8 and above. Microsoft used Windows 8 push their
    awful App store. It was also when they started using their OS to heavy-handedly push their other online services. A lot of features in
    the OS seemed designed to benefit Microsoft rather than make the lives
    of their customers better. Its competitors -- Linux and MacOS and
    ChromeOS-- started looking much more viable because of that.

    Steam started pushing its hardware offerings as a direct response to
    Windows 8 and the potential threat its app-store represented. This led
    to further development in SteamOS and later the Proton compatibility
    layer that made the underlying OS even more commoditized. So too with
    Google and its Chromebooks; a response to Microsoft trying to
    lock-down app distribution. Windows still has a lot of inertia to it,
    but more and more --thanks to attitudes and tactics by Microsoft
    started with the release of Windows 8-- people are considering
    alternatives. I think if ever Microsoft Windows, is dethroned, we'll
    look back at Windows 8 as the spark that lit the fire.

    So I guess it's not all that bad ;-)

    How did you feel about Windows 8.0?


    8.1 was one of the first OS's I had on a home computer, and for some
    reason I actually really liked it back then. I can still see the flaws
    now, but nostalgia is quite strong...
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  • From Spalls Hurgenson@[email protected] to comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action on Mon Jun 8 12:13:38 2026
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    On Mon, 8 Jun 2026 15:20:08 -0000 (UTC), candycanearter07 <[email protected]> said this thing:


    8.1 was one of the first OS's I had on a home computer, and for some
    reason I actually really liked it back then. I can still see the flaws
    now, but nostalgia is quite strong...


    And with just two sentences you've made 90% of Usenet feel absolutely
    ancient ;-)




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  • From candycanearter07@[email protected] to comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action on Mon Jun 15 13:40:05 2026
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    Spalls Hurgenson <[email protected]> wrote at 16:13 this Monday (GMT):
    On Mon, 8 Jun 2026 15:20:08 -0000 (UTC), candycanearter07
    <[email protected]> said this thing:


    8.1 was one of the first OS's I had on a home computer, and for some
    reason I actually really liked it back then. I can still see the flaws
    now, but nostalgia is quite strong...


    And with just two sentences you've made 90% of Usenet feel absolutely
    ancient ;-)


    lol, sorry :P
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