• They try and try, but Nvidia cards just keep catching on fire

    From Spalls Hurgenson@[email protected] to comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action on Fri Jun 12 10:40:16 2026
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    An amusing, if informative tale*:

    Ever since the 3xxx series, there have been stories about how Nvidia
    cards are catching on fire. Well, not so much fire as melting and
    scorching the on-card power connectors. Either way, the card didn't
    come out very well from the experience and, while there have been any
    tales of actual 'oh-my-god-my-whole-PC-is-on-fire!" experiences, I
    think it's probably only a matter of time. These problems were
    exacerbated with the release of the 4xxx and 5xxx line of nvidia cards (especially the 49xx and 59xx cards), which demanded even more power
    from the connectors.

    Nvidia, of course, did what any responsible corporation would do. The
    first denied the problem even existed, then tried to lay the blame on
    other components (it's the power supply at fault! it's the cheap
    cables you're using! It's the user who plugged it in wrong!), before
    admitting that maybe, in some very rare rare rare cases (which aren't
    that rare, apparently) the connectors might fail... but here are some half-hearted work-arounds that, sure, may prevent the melting power
    cable issue, but also hobble your GPUs performance, making that $1500
    card run the same as something half the price.

    In fairness, nvidia isn't entirely wrong that the problem lies (at
    least partly) with the cables. The 12 volt 2x6 connectors used in
    these cards can pull up to 450 watts of power, and that's a lot of
    juice to go through such a tiny package. Each pin carries 6.5 amps of
    current. That's well within the design rating of the cables and
    connectors. The problem is that if one of those pins can't keep up
    that current (maybe it's broken, or corroded, or whatever), the load
    gets transferred to the other 5 pins... and that pushes them over the
    design limits. Shortly thereafter, the magic smoke is released.

    PSU and cable manufacturers have tried to work around the problem, but ultimately a better solution needs come from nvidia. They need to
    ensure that no single pin can overdraw current. This would probably
    require a redesign of the entire connector. Even better, they need to
    start making GPUs that don't demand 450W of power. These solutions
    would solve the melting issue far better than pushing it onto
    PSU/cable manufacturers.

    Because let's face it: with computer prices skyrocketing, and margins
    on PC sales so razor thin already, the first thing that OEMs are going
    to start cutting back on is quality of the PSUs and cabling. Which
    means we're going to be seeing even more stories about nvidia cards
    catching fire... and while it's the cables that are at fault, it's the
    nvidia cards that are causing them to fail so spectacularly. And
    nvidia has had years to rectify this issue. There's already a
    class-action suit acting nvidia from 2022; nvidia may or may not
    escape blame in that one. But any future suits will have ample history
    of nvidia ignoring the problem and probably have a lot more success.

    Meanwhile, ARM is really starting to amp up its own GPU capabilities.
    Sure, it's not anywhere near the capabilities of a fully powered
    5090RTX yet... but if ARM knows anything, it's getting a lot of
    processing done with a lot less power draw, and that's becoming
    increasingly important in the market.




    * story https://www.pcgamer.com/hardware/graphics-cards/possibly-the-first-instance-of-asus-anti-melting-12v-2-6-power-cable-err-melting-shows-up-adding-more-fuel-to-the-fire-that-is-nvidias-connector/

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  • From vallor@[email protected] to comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action on Sun Jun 14 23:20:34 2026
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action

    At Fri, 12 Jun 2026 10:40:16 -0400, Spalls Hurgenson <[email protected]> wrote:


    An amusing, if informative tale*:

    Ever since the 3xxx series, there have been stories about how Nvidia
    cards are catching on fire. Well, not so much fire as melting and
    scorching the on-card power connectors. Either way, the card didn't
    come out very well from the experience and, while there have been any
    tales of actual 'oh-my-god-my-whole-PC-is-on-fire!" experiences, I
    think it's probably only a matter of time. These problems were
    exacerbated with the release of the 4xxx and 5xxx line of nvidia cards (especially the 49xx and 59xx cards), which demanded even more power
    from the connectors.

    Nvidia, of course, did what any responsible corporation would do. The
    first denied the problem even existed, then tried to lay the blame on
    other components (it's the power supply at fault! it's the cheap
    cables you're using! It's the user who plugged it in wrong!), before admitting that maybe, in some very rare rare rare cases (which aren't
    that rare, apparently) the connectors might fail... but here are some half-hearted work-arounds that, sure, may prevent the melting power
    cable issue, but also hobble your GPUs performance, making that $1500
    card run the same as something half the price.

    In fairness, nvidia isn't entirely wrong that the problem lies (at
    least partly) with the cables. The 12 volt 2x6 connectors used in
    these cards can pull up to 450 watts of power, and that's a lot of
    juice to go through such a tiny package. Each pin carries 6.5 amps of current. That's well within the design rating of the cables and
    connectors. The problem is that if one of those pins can't keep up
    that current (maybe it's broken, or corroded, or whatever), the load
    gets transferred to the other 5 pins... and that pushes them over the
    design limits. Shortly thereafter, the magic smoke is released.

    PSU and cable manufacturers have tried to work around the problem, but ultimately a better solution needs come from nvidia. They need to
    ensure that no single pin can overdraw current. This would probably
    require a redesign of the entire connector. Even better, they need to
    start making GPUs that don't demand 450W of power. These solutions
    would solve the melting issue far better than pushing it onto
    PSU/cable manufacturers.

    Because let's face it: with computer prices skyrocketing, and margins
    on PC sales so razor thin already, the first thing that OEMs are going
    to start cutting back on is quality of the PSUs and cabling. Which
    means we're going to be seeing even more stories about nvidia cards
    catching fire... and while it's the cables that are at fault, it's the
    nvidia cards that are causing them to fail so spectacularly. And
    nvidia has had years to rectify this issue. There's already a
    class-action suit acting nvidia from 2022; nvidia may or may not
    escape blame in that one. But any future suits will have ample history
    of nvidia ignoring the problem and probably have a lot more success.

    Meanwhile, ARM is really starting to amp up its own GPU capabilities.
    Sure, it's not anywhere near the capabilities of a fully powered
    5090RTX yet... but if ARM knows anything, it's getting a lot of
    processing done with a lot less power draw, and that's becoming
    increasingly important in the market.




    * story https://www.pcgamer.com/hardware/graphics-cards/possibly-the-first-instance-of-asus-anti-melting-12v-2-6-power-cable-err-melting-shows-up-adding-more-fuel-to-the-fire-that-is-nvidias-connector/

    Disturbing to hear.

    I have a new workstation sitting on a pallet* in the garage waiting
    for me to unpack and set it up.

    It contains:

    Graphics: 32 GB NVIDIA Geforce RTX 5090

    Now I'm afraid when I boot, it might halt-and-catch-fire.

    * Yes, System76 ships their tower workstations on small pallets.
    They are meticulously packed. (Not a solicited endorsement.)
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