Whaaat?? You mean, Microsoft’s wonderful OS might leave something to
be desired in the looks department? People might actually prefer some
UI features from the MacOS or (gods forbid) the Linux world??
<https://www.zdnet.com/article/hate-windows-11s-vibe-make-it-look-more-like-li
nux-or-macos-heres-how/>
Whaaat?? You mean, Microsoft’s wonderful OS might leave something to
be desired in the looks department? People might actually prefer some
UI features from the MacOS or (gods forbid) the Linux world??
<https://www.zdnet.com/article/hate-windows-11s-vibe-make-it-look-more-like-linux-or-macos-heres-how/>
On 9/17/2025 4:07 PM, Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote:
Whaaat?? You mean, Microsoft’s wonderful OS might leave something to
be desired in the looks department? People might actually prefer some
UI features from the MacOS or (gods forbid) the Linux world??
<https://www.zdnet.com/article/hate-windows-11s-vibe-make-it-look-
more-like-linux-or-macos-heres-how/>
As a Windows user who has tried Mac and played with Linux I love Windows
11. Does what I need and runs all my software flawlessly.
On 9/24/2025 10:52 AM, Tom Elam wrote:
On 9/17/2025 4:07 PM, Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote:
Whaaat?? You mean, Microsoft’s wonderful OS might leave something to
be desired in the looks department? People might actually prefer some
UI features from the MacOS or (gods forbid) the Linux world??
<https://www.zdnet.com/article/hate-windows-11s-vibe-make-it-look-
more-like-linux-or-macos-heres-how/>
As a Windows user who has tried Mac and played with Linux I love Windows
11. Does what I need and runs all my software flawlessly.
I prefer Linux in an abstract way, but Win11 is just plug-and-play, so
to speak. I'm a Linux advocate but I'm happy using Win11 for now, and likely a long time to come.
I prefer Linux in an abstract way, but Win11 is just plug-and-play, so
to speak. I'm a Linux advocate but I'm happy using Win11 for now, and
likely a long time to come.
Personally, I found Windows 10 to be meh at work, and now I find
Windows 11 to also be meh.
Then again, once I got used to Linux I found it better for my
needs, not meh at all. Far more tailorable and much more pleasant.
But enough about me.
Joel W. Crump wrote this post while blinking in Morse code:
I prefer Linux in an abstract way, but Win11 is just plug-and-play, so
to speak. I'm a Linux advocate but I'm happy using Win11 for now, and
likely a long time to come.
Personally, I found Windows 10 to be meh at work, and now I find
Windows 11 to also be meh.
On Wed, 24 Sep 2025 14:35:02 -0400, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
Joel W. Crump wrote this post while blinking in Morse code:
I prefer Linux in an abstract way, but Win11 is just plug-and-play, so
to speak. I'm a Linux advocate but I'm happy using Win11 for now, and
likely a long time to come.
Personally, I found Windows 10 to be meh at work, and now I find
Windows 11 to also be meh.
Why do you waste valuable seconds in responding to that boorish
degenerate? Why? Don't you receive enough excitement in your
life?
The only thing he/she does with his/her computer is just start
it and stop it. That's all. In between there is nothing. This
freak is a monumental fraud.
Get a life and forever ignore this loser.
By the way, since this is cross posted, Winblows 10/11 is pablum
for decrepit retards.
On 9/17/2025 4:07 PM, Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote:
Whaaat?? You mean, Microsoft’s wonderful OS might leave something
to be desired in the looks department? People might actually prefer
some UI features from the MacOS or (gods forbid) the Linux world??
<https://www.zdnet.com/article/hate-windows-11s-vibe-make-it-look-more-like-linux-or-macos-heres-how/>
As a Windows user who has tried Mac and played with Linux I love
Windows 11. Does what I need and runs all my software flawlessly.
On 9/24/2025 10:52 AM, Tom Elam wrote:
On 9/17/2025 4:07 PM, Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote:
Whaaat?? You mean, Microsoft’s wonderful OS might leave something to
be desired in the looks department? People might actually prefer some
UI features from the MacOS or (gods forbid) the Linux world??
<https://www.zdnet.com/article/hate-windows-11s-vibe-make-it-look-
more-like-linux-or-macos-heres-how/>
As a Windows user who has tried Mac and played with Linux I love Windows
11. Does what I need and runs all my software flawlessly.
I prefer Linux in an abstract way, but Win11 is just plug-and-play, so
to speak. I'm a Linux advocate but I'm happy using Win11 for now, and likely a long time to come.
Joel W. Crump <[email protected]> wrote at 16:51 this Wednesday (GMT):
On 9/24/2025 10:52 AM, Tom Elam wrote:
On 9/17/2025 4:07 PM, Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote:
Whaaat?? You mean, Microsoft’s wonderful OS might leave something to >>>> be desired in the looks department? People might actually prefer some
UI features from the MacOS or (gods forbid) the Linux world??
<https://www.zdnet.com/article/hate-windows-11s-vibe-make-it-look-
more-like-linux-or-macos-heres-how/>
As a Windows user who has tried Mac and played with Linux I love Windows >>> 11. Does what I need and runs all my software flawlessly.
I prefer Linux in an abstract way, but Win11 is just plug-and-play, so
to speak. I'm a Linux advocate but I'm happy using Win11 for now, and
likely a long time to come.
Windows works fine... enough, and it does have the advantage of being
the "default" os people go to (since macos is so locked down..), its
just MS as a company as been getting way too pushy.
Windows works fine... its just MS as a company as been getting way
too pushy.
On 9/25/2025 1:40 PM, candycanearter07 wrote:
Joel W. Crump <[email protected]> wrote at 16:51 this Wednesday (GMT):
On 9/24/2025 10:52 AM, Tom Elam wrote:
On 9/17/2025 4:07 PM, Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote:
Whaaat?? You mean, Microsoft’s wonderful OS might leave something to >>>>> be desired in the looks department? People might actually prefer some >>>>> UI features from the MacOS or (gods forbid) the Linux world??
<https://www.zdnet.com/article/hate-windows-11s-vibe-make-it-look-
more-like-linux-or-macos-heres-how/>
As a Windows user who has tried Mac and played with Linux I love Windows >>>> 11. Does what I need and runs all my software flawlessly.
I prefer Linux in an abstract way, but Win11 is just plug-and-play, so
to speak. I'm a Linux advocate but I'm happy using Win11 for now, and
likely a long time to come.
Windows works fine... enough, and it does have the advantage of being
the "default" os people go to (since macos is so locked down..), its
just MS as a company as been getting way too pushy.
You're not wrong. I advocate Linux in a general way. But I'm kind of hooked on this Win11.
On Thu, 25 Sep 2025 14:46:29 -0400, "Joel W. Crump" <[email protected]> wrote in <96gBQ.49326$[email protected]>:
On 9/25/2025 1:40 PM, candycanearter07 wrote:
Joel W. Crump <[email protected]> wrote at 16:51 this Wednesday (GMT): >>>> On 9/24/2025 10:52 AM, Tom Elam wrote:
On 9/17/2025 4:07 PM, Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote:
Whaaat?? You mean, Microsoft’s wonderful OS might leave something to >>>>>> be desired in the looks department? People might actually prefer some >>>>>> UI features from the MacOS or (gods forbid) the Linux world??
<https://www.zdnet.com/article/hate-windows-11s-vibe-make-it-look- >>>>>> more-like-linux-or-macos-heres-how/>
As a Windows user who has tried Mac and played with Linux I love Windows >>>>> 11. Does what I need and runs all my software flawlessly.
I prefer Linux in an abstract way, but Win11 is just plug-and-play, so >>>> to speak. I'm a Linux advocate but I'm happy using Win11 for now, and >>>> likely a long time to come.
Windows works fine... enough, and it does have the advantage of being
the "default" os people go to (since macos is so locked down..), its
just MS as a company as been getting way too pushy.
You're not wrong. I advocate Linux in a general way. But I'm kind of
hooked on this Win11.
Hate to say it, but it's almost as if you've become a "concern troll".
On 9/17/2025 4:07 PM, Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote:
Whaaat?? You mean, Microsoft’s wonderful OS might leave something to
be desired in the looks department? People might actually prefer some
UI features from the MacOS or (gods forbid) the Linux world??
<https://www.zdnet.com/article/hate-windows-11s-vibe-make-it-look-
more-like-linux-or-macos-heres-how/>
As a Windows user who has tried Mac and played with Linux I love Windows
11. Does what I need and runs all my software flawlessly.
On Thu, 25 Sep 2025 14:46:29 -0400, "Joel W. Crump" <[email protected]> wrote in <96gBQ.49326$[email protected]>:
On 9/25/2025 1:40 PM, candycanearter07 wrote:
Joel W. Crump <[email protected]> wrote at 16:51 this Wednesday (GMT): >>>> On 9/24/2025 10:52 AM, Tom Elam wrote:
As a Windows user who has tried Mac and played with Linux I love Windows >>>>> 11. Does what I need and runs all my software flawlessly.
I prefer Linux in an abstract way, but Win11 is just plug-and-play, so >>>> to speak. I'm a Linux advocate but I'm happy using Win11 for now, and >>>> likely a long time to come.
Windows works fine... enough, and it does have the advantage of being
the "default" os people go to (since macos is so locked down..), its
just MS as a company as been getting way too pushy.
You're not wrong. I advocate Linux in a general way. But I'm kind of
hooked on this Win11.
Hate to say it, but it's almost as if you've become a "concern troll".
On 9/25/2025 7:11 PM, vallor wrote:
On Thu, 25 Sep 2025 14:46:29 -0400, "Joel W. Crump" <[email protected]>
wrote in <96gBQ.49326$[email protected]>:
On 9/25/2025 1:40 PM, candycanearter07 wrote:
Joel W. Crump <[email protected]> wrote at 16:51 this Wednesday (GMT): >>>>> On 9/24/2025 10:52 AM, Tom Elam wrote:
As a Windows user who has tried Mac and played with Linux I love Windows >>>>>> 11. Does what I need and runs all my software flawlessly.
I prefer Linux in an abstract way, but Win11 is just plug-and-play, so >>>>> to speak. I'm a Linux advocate but I'm happy using Win11 for now, and >>>>> likely a long time to come.
Windows works fine... enough, and it does have the advantage of being
the "default" os people go to (since macos is so locked down..), its
just MS as a company as been getting way too pushy.
You're not wrong. I advocate Linux in a general way. But I'm kind of
hooked on this Win11.
Hate to say it, but it's almost as if you've become a "concern troll".
I hate to say it but you talk about "concern trolls" too much. What the fuck is that? How am I doing anything but just telling you what I'm
doing with my device? Sheesh.
On 2025-09-24 07:52, Tom Elam wrote:
As a Windows user who has tried Mac and played with Linux I love
Windows 11. Does what I need and runs all my software flawlessly.
And from extensive experience with with Windows 11 and macOS, I can tell
you Windows requires FAR more support.
On 2025-09-25, Joel W. Crump <[email protected]> wrote:
On 9/25/2025 7:11 PM, vallor wrote:
On Thu, 25 Sep 2025 14:46:29 -0400, "Joel W. Crump" <[email protected]> >>> wrote in <96gBQ.49326$[email protected]>:
On 9/25/2025 1:40 PM, candycanearter07 wrote:
Windows works fine... enough, and it does have the advantage of being >>>>> the "default" os people go to (since macos is so locked down..), its >>>>> just MS as a company as been getting way too pushy.
You're not wrong. I advocate Linux in a general way. But I'm kind of >>>> hooked on this Win11.
Hate to say it, but it's almost as if you've become a "concern troll".
I hate to say it but you talk about "concern trolls" too much. What the
fuck is that? How am I doing anything but just telling you what I'm
doing with my device? Sheesh.
Why do you continually switch back and forth from Linux and Windows?
On 9/25/2025 7:58 PM, Alan wrote:
On 2025-09-24 07:52, Tom Elam wrote:
As a Windows user who has tried Mac and played with Linux I love
Windows 11. Does what I need and runs all my software flawlessly.
And from extensive experience with with Windows 11 and macOS, I can
tell you Windows requires FAR more support.
That's obviously due to the different types of people using each
platform, to me "support" is a joke, I'm not bone stupid, but of course Windows is what more people use and more people tends to mean more dumb.
Mac users are dumb in a different respect, they like being treated
like sheep by Apple, but they have intelligence in how they use the Mac,
the Windows user is the one calling the 800 number for "tech support"
from the OEM or MS, depending how they got their license, it's pathetic.
So yeah, Windows requires more support because more people use it, congrats, you are a brainiac.
On 2025-09-25, Joel W. Crump<[email protected]> wrote:
On 9/25/2025 7:11 PM, vallor wrote:
On Thu, 25 Sep 2025 14:46:29 -0400, "Joel W. Crump" <[email protected]> wrote in <96gBQ.49326$[email protected]>:
On 9/25/2025 1:40 PM, candycanearter07 wrote:
Joel W. Crump <[email protected]> wrote at 16:51 this Wednesday (GMT):
On 9/24/2025 10:52 AM, Tom Elam wrote:
As a Windows user who has tried Mac and played with Linux I love Windows
11. Does what I need and runs all my software flawlessly.
I prefer Linux in an abstract way, but Win11 is just plug-and-play, so
to speak. I'm a Linux advocate but I'm happy using Win11 for now, and
likely a long time to come.
Windows works fine... enough, and it does have the advantage of being the "default" os people go to (since macos is so locked down..), its just MS as a company as been getting way too pushy.
You're not wrong. I advocate Linux in a general way. But I'm kind of hooked on this Win11.
Hate to say it, but it's almost as if you've become a "concern troll".
I hate to say it but you talk about "concern trolls" too much. What the fuck is that? How am I doing anything but just telling you what I'm
doing with my device? Sheesh.
Why do you continually switch back and forth from Linux and Windows?
On Wed, 24 Sep 2025 14:35:02 -0400, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
Joel W. Crump wrote this post while blinking in Morse code:
I prefer Linux in an abstract way, but Win11 is just plug-and-play, so
to speak. I'm a Linux advocate but I'm happy using Win11 for now, and
likely a long time to come.
Personally, I found Windows 10 to be meh at work, and now I find
Windows 11 to also be meh.
Why do you waste valuable seconds in responding to that boorish
degenerate?
On Sep 25, 2025, pothead wrote
(in article <10b4lf9$lj0j$[email protected]>):
On 2025-09-25, Joel W. Crump<[email protected]> wrote:
On 9/25/2025 7:11 PM, vallor wrote:
On Thu, 25 Sep 2025 14:46:29 -0400, "Joel W. Crump" <[email protected]>
wrote in <96gBQ.49326$[email protected]>:
On 9/25/2025 1:40 PM, candycanearter07 wrote:
Joel W. Crump <[email protected]> wrote at 16:51 this Wednesday (GMT):
On 9/24/2025 10:52 AM, Tom Elam wrote:
As a Windows user who has tried Mac and played with Linux I love >> > > > > > > Windows
11. Does what I need and runs all my software flawlessly.
I prefer Linux in an abstract way, but Win11 is just plug-and-play, so
to speak. I'm a Linux advocate but I'm happy using Win11 for now, and
likely a long time to come.
Windows works fine... enough, and it does have the advantage of being
the "default" os people go to (since macos is so locked down..), its >> > > > > just MS as a company as been getting way too pushy.
You're not wrong. I advocate Linux in a general way. But I'm kind of >> > > > hooked on this Win11.
Hate to say it, but it's almost as if you've become a "concern troll". >> >
I hate to say it but you talk about "concern trolls" too much. What the
fuck is that? How am I doing anything but just telling you what I'm
doing with my device? Sheesh.
Why do you continually switch back and forth from Linux and Windows?
why do you care?
I switch between Win 10 and macOS; I even have a Win10 VM on my main Mac. Is this somehow a problem too? I also have a Ubuntu VM on the same machine, and switch to that sometimes. Is this a problem?
I use applications to get work done. Mostly that’s Mac apps, but some are on Win10, some on Ubuntu. I’m phasing out the Win10 stuff. Is this a problem?
On 9/25/2025 7:11 PM, vallor wrote:
On Thu, 25 Sep 2025 14:46:29 -0400, "Joel W. Crump" <[email protected]> wrote in <96gBQ.49326$[email protected]>:
On 9/25/2025 1:40 PM, candycanearter07 wrote:
Joel W. Crump <[email protected]> wrote at 16:51 this Wednesday (GMT): >>>> On 9/24/2025 10:52 AM, Tom Elam wrote:
As a Windows user who has tried Mac and played with Linux I love Windows
11. Does what I need and runs all my software flawlessly.
I prefer Linux in an abstract way, but Win11 is just plug-and-play, so >>>> to speak. I'm a Linux advocate but I'm happy using Win11 for now, and >>>> likely a long time to come.
Windows works fine... enough, and it does have the advantage of being
the "default" os people go to (since macos is so locked down..), its
just MS as a company as been getting way too pushy.
You're not wrong. I advocate Linux in a general way. But I'm kind of
hooked on this Win11.
Hate to say it, but it's almost as if you've become a "concern troll".
I hate to say it but you talk about "concern trolls" too much. What the fuck is that? How am I doing anything but just telling you what I'm
doing with my device? Sheesh.
On 2025-09-26, WolfFan<[email protected]> wrote:
On Sep 25, 2025, pothead wrote
(in article <10b4lf9$lj0j$[email protected]>):
On 2025-09-25, Joel W. Crump<[email protected]> wrote:
On 9/25/2025 7:11 PM, vallor wrote:
On Thu, 25 Sep 2025 14:46:29 -0400, "Joel W. Crump" <[email protected]>
wrote in <96gBQ.49326$[email protected]>:
On 9/25/2025 1:40 PM, candycanearter07 wrote:
Joel W. Crump <[email protected]> wrote at 16:51 this Wednesday (GMT):
On 9/24/2025 10:52 AM, Tom Elam wrote:
As a Windows user who has tried Mac and played with Linux I love
Windows
11. Does what I need and runs all my software flawlessly.
I prefer Linux in an abstract way, but Win11 is just plug-and-play, so
to speak. I'm a Linux advocate but I'm happy using Win11 for now, and
likely a long time to come.
Windows works fine... enough, and it does have the advantage of being
the "default" os people go to (since macos is so locked down..), its
just MS as a company as been getting way too pushy.
You're not wrong. I advocate Linux in a general way. But I'm kind of
hooked on this Win11.
Hate to say it, but it's almost as if you've become a "concern troll".
I hate to say it but you talk about "concern trolls" too much. What the fuck is that? How am I doing anything but just telling you what I'm doing with my device? Sheesh.
Why do you continually switch back and forth from Linux and Windows?
why do you care?
I switch between Win 10 and macOS; I even have a Win10 VM on my main Mac. Is
this somehow a problem too? I also have a Ubuntu VM on the same machine, and
switch to that sometimes. Is this a problem?
I use applications to get work done. Mostly that’s Mac apps, but some are on Win10, some on Ubuntu. I’m phasing out the Win10 stuff. Is this a problem?
Of course it's not a problem. What I was referring to, and Joel knows this, as
to why when he switches he adopts the OS, whatever OS, as super great and then
offers up the lukewarm comment that the other OS is good, but his latest switch
is better.
He's done this several times, on hardware so it's not like he has
2 machines and moves between the two.
It's just an observation and others have noticed the same.
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