How To Protect Your Mac From Malware
Learn from Gary! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ebOFPd755A
You can protect your Mac from being bricked by following three simple
rules.
On Tue, 3 Mar 2026 20:24:01 +0000
"David B." <[email protected]> wrote:
How To Protect Your Mac From Malware
Learn from Gary! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ebOFPd755A
You can protect your Mac from being bricked by following three simple
rules.
1. Never ever, ever, ever bring your computer to The Prescott Computer
Guy who is also known as Michael Glasser of Prescott Arizona, snit,
brock mcnuggets and dozens of other fake aliases.
He will destroy your computer and then blame you for doing it.
2. See #1.
3. See #2.
You have been warned.
Octothorpe Obelus <[email protected]> news:20260303191638.474e3819@weed Wed, 04 Mar 2026 00:16:38 GMT in alt.computer.workshop, wrote:
On Tue, 3 Mar 2026 20:24:01 +0000
"David B." <[email protected]> wrote:
How To Protect Your Mac From Malware
Learn from Gary! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ebOFPd755A
You can protect your Mac from being bricked by following three simple
rules.
1. Never ever, ever, ever bring your computer to The Prescott Computer
Guy who is also known as Michael Glasser of Prescott Arizona, snit,
brock mcnuggets and dozens of other fake aliases.
He will destroy your computer and then blame you for doing it.
2. See #1.
3. See #2.
You have been warned.
A solid warning!
Octothorpe Obelus <[email protected]> news:20260303191638.474e3819@weed Wed, 04 Mar 2026 00:16:38 GMT in alt.computer.workshop, wrote:
On Tue, 3 Mar 2026 20:24:01 +0000
"David B." <[email protected]> wrote:
How To Protect Your Mac From Malware
Learn from Gary! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ebOFPd755A
You can protect your Mac from being bricked by following three simple
rules.
1. Never ever, ever, ever bring your computer to The Prescott Computer
Guy who is also known as Michael Glasser of Prescott Arizona, snit,
brock mcnuggets and dozens of other fake aliases.
He will destroy your computer and then blame you for doing it.
2. See #1.
3. See #2.
You have been warned.
A solid warning!
On 2026-03-07 05:57:47 +0000, Gremlin said:
Octothorpe Obelus <[email protected]>
news:20260303191638.474e3819@weed Wed, 04 Mar 2026 00:16:38 GMT in
alt.computer.workshop, wrote:
On Tue, 3 Mar 2026 20:24:01 +0000
"David B." <[email protected]> wrote:
How To Protect Your Mac From Malware
Learn from Gary! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ebOFPd755A
You can protect your Mac from being bricked by following three simple
rules.
1. Never ever, ever, ever bring your computer to The Prescott Computer
Guy who is also known as Michael Glasser of Prescott Arizona, snit,
brock mcnuggets and dozens of other fake aliases.
He will destroy your computer and then blame you for doing it.
2. See #1.
3. See #2.
You have been warned.
A solid warning!
Never bring your computer to any friggin' "repair man." Look what
happened to Hunter Biden and countless other unsuspecting sad sacks.
Pulverize the HD with a sledge hammer, bury it in your backyard, then recycle what's left with Goodwill or somebody.
If your data isn't backed up two or three times then you're too dumb to
own and operate a computer.
On 2026-03-07, super70s <[email protected]d> wrote:
On 2026-03-07 05:57:47 +0000, Gremlin said:
Octothorpe Obelus <[email protected]>
news:20260303191638.474e3819@weed Wed, 04 Mar 2026 00:16:38 GMT in
alt.computer.workshop, wrote:
On Tue, 3 Mar 2026 20:24:01 +0000
"David B." <[email protected]> wrote:
How To Protect Your Mac From Malware
Learn from Gary! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ebOFPd755A
You can protect your Mac from being bricked by following three simple >>>>> rules.
1. Never ever, ever, ever bring your computer to The Prescott Computer >>>> Guy who is also known as Michael Glasser of Prescott Arizona, snit,
brock mcnuggets and dozens of other fake aliases.
He will destroy your computer and then blame you for doing it.
2. See #1.
3. See #2.
You have been warned.
A solid warning!
Never bring your computer to any friggin' "repair man." Look what
happened to Hunter Biden and countless other unsuspecting sad sacks.
Pulverize the HD with a sledge hammer, bury it in your backyard, then
recycle what's left with Goodwill or somebody.
If your data isn't backed up two or three times then you're too dumb to
own and operate a computer.
It depends upon the shop of course. In the case of Hunter he abandoned his laptop and didn't respond to requests by the shop owner to pick it up.
The rest is history.
However, there are far more incompetent computer repair shops than good ones. Sad but true.
Take Michael Glasser also known as snit, Brock McNuggets and numerous other nyms, for example.
He started a computer repair business from his double-wide and ending up bricking
client's computers so badly that a competing brick and mortar shop in town was
offering a discount to potential clients who had the misfortune of having their computers bricked by Michael Glasser.
At the time various people on Usenet where Michael Glasser trolls actually called the shop and verified that this was indeed true.
The real fun doesn't begin until snit asked for advice on how to repair his own
Mac.
Gremlin fixed it for him.
so the idiot Michael Glasser was unable to fix his own Mac.
It's no wonder that he bricked other people's computers.
So the OP is spot on correct as is Gremlin.
Never bring your computer to any friggin' "repair man." Look what
happened to Hunter Biden and countless other unsuspecting sad sacks.
If your data isn't backed up two or three times then you're too dumb to
own and operate a computer.
On 2026-03-07, super70s <[email protected]d> wrote:
Never bring your computer to any friggin' "repair man." Look what
happened to Hunter Biden and countless other unsuspecting sad sacks.
Pulverize the HD with a sledge hammer, bury it in your backyard, then
recycle what's left with Goodwill or somebody.
If your data isn't backed up two or three times then you're too dumb to
own and operate a computer.
It depends upon the shop of course. In the case of Hunter he abandoned
his laptop and didn't respond to requests by the shop owner to pick it
up. The rest is history.
However, there are far more incompetent computer repair shops than good
ones. Sad but true.
Take Michael Glasser also known as snit, Brock McNuggets and numerous
other nyms, for example.
He started a computer repair business from his double-wide and ending up bricking client's computers so badly that a competing brick and mortar
shop in town was offering a discount to potential clients who had the misfortune of having their computers bricked by Michael Glasser.
At the time various people on Usenet where Michael Glasser trolls
actually called the shop and verified that this was indeed true.
The real fun doesn't begin until snit asked for advice on how to repair
his own Mac.
Gremlin fixed it for him.
so the idiot Michael Glasser was unable to fix his own Mac.
It's no wonder that he bricked other people's computers.
So the OP is spot on correct as is Gremlin.
Most software downloaded onto a Mac is "installed", usually in
Applications, and shows up in System Information > Installations. Once there, software can be scanned with an AV software package to check for malware. However, a popular tool often recommended by advisors on the
Apple Support Communities forums (EtreCheck) cannot be checked in this manner.
EtreCheck claims NOT to be "installed" - indeed, it does NOT show up in Applications or Installations
so just HOW can it be scanned by anti-
malware software BEFORE being given free reign on an Apple computer?”
That is a question asked in the "Comments" section under the video.
Do YOU know the answer?
pothead <[email protected]> news:10oib2e$1t2v1$[email protected] Sat, 07 Mar 2026 23:06:55 GMT in alt.computer.workshop, wrote:
Take Michael Glasser also known as snit, Brock McNuggets and numerous
other nyms, for example.
He started a computer repair business from his double-wide and ending up
bricking client's computers so badly that a competing brick and mortar
shop in town was offering a discount to potential clients who had the
misfortune of having their computers bricked by Michael Glasser.
At the time various people on Usenet where Michael Glasser trolls
actually called the shop and verified that this was indeed true.
All true!
Several of us called to verify it because it seemed so far fetched
at the time - even for Glasser. I was gobsmacked myself when I did the same thing and got an ear full concerning Snit and his technical repair skills. Ahem... his lack of those skills specifically.
The real fun doesn't begin until snit asked for advice on how to repair
his own Mac.
That was hilarious!
He claimed to have had it looked at already too!
And,
(this is the funniest fucking part) they told him that the computer had a problem with the mainboard. If, and that's a big if, You actually believe snit when he claimed that he had the computer checked out. If that was actually true, the individual who looked the machine over and provided that diagnosis is just as incompetent as snit, if not more so. That's not an easy bar to fall below. You'd have to work and work hard to be able to pull that one off.
Gremlin fixed it for him.
Just to clarify - after much effort on the part of Snit to resist my help;
I
was able to properly diagnose
the primary issue the computer was actually
having - a failing internal drive. Obviously, I haven't boarded a plane or taken a bit of a drive to go and visit snit in Arizona and while there replace the drive for him.
Although as far as I know the machine isn't fixed because Snit won't make
any effort to tear down the computer to reach the drive to replace it
without further damaging the machine.
Thanks entirely to me (and me alone,
rofl), he actually does know what the problem is now and could fix it at
some point down the road if he ever grows a pair and takes it apart. Unless things have changed, he doesn't trust himself enough to be able to do that.
If he ever decides to take being a technician seriously, I provided him a very reliable way to troubleshoot a computer remotely; all he has to do is follow the same recipe I already shared when I walked him thru the steps required for me to perform my diagnosis. It's not rocket science; it's just sound logic and troubleshooting skills on display.
If snit was anywhere near as intelligent as he wants to fool us into believing he is,
he would have been taking extensive notes during the course
of our conversation so that one day, down the road, possibly decades from now - he would be able to diagnose and repair things he and his family and friends own. You observed along with several others how much effort Snit putting into being as unhelpful as he possibly could as I worked to narrow down the problem.
I would have liked to have seen the look on his face when smart diags confirmed what I told him the issue was. And I reached that conclusion
pretty early on in the conversation. The rest of the time was spent working hard to get snit to verify what I suspected with smart diags.
Snit was trying to piss me off so that I wouldn't continue assisting him so that he could claim that I wasn't able to do so. His efforts failed as you know. I didn't back down, I didn't 'run away' I determined what his
computers actual problem was and he confirmed my findings using 3rd party software. Just as I had already told him I could do - because I've been
doing it for a living for decades already.
so the idiot Michael Glasser was unable to fix his own Mac.
He couldn't even figure out what the problem was. <G> Whoever looked at it previously for him, that is if you believe he's telling the truth about that, demonstrated that they are as useful in the tech industry as snit is. Just like tits on a bore. That level of useful. :)
It's no wonder that he bricked other people's computers.
He doesn't know much more about them than that of an advanced end user.
You'd expect that someone with a masters degree in IT would know a bit more about the gear they use, but, evidently that's not the case with Snit. I don't even run any Apple hardware here. So, I was flying blind the entire time I assisted him. Despite having no access to useful instrumentation - I made it to the airport and performed a safe landing. <G>
--So the OP is spot on correct as is Gremlin.
Agreed!
Octothorpe Obelus <[email protected]> news:20260303191638.474e3819@weed Wed, 04 Mar 2026 00:16:38 GMT in alt.computer.workshop, wrote:
On Tue, 3 Mar 2026 20:24:01 +0000
"David B." <[email protected]> wrote:
How To Protect Your Mac From Malware
Learn from Gary! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ebOFPd755A
You can protect your Mac from being bricked by following three simple
rules.
1. Never ever, ever, ever bring your computer to The Prescott Computer
Guy who is also known as Michael Glasser of Prescott Arizona, snit,
brock mcnuggets and dozens of other fake aliases.
He will destroy your computer and then blame you for doing it.
2. See #1.
3. See #2.
You have been warned.
A solid warning!
On 2026-03-07, super70s <[email protected]d> wrote:
On 2026-03-07 05:57:47 +0000, Gremlin said:
Octothorpe Obelus <[email protected]>
news:20260303191638.474e3819@weed Wed, 04 Mar 2026 00:16:38 GMT in
alt.computer.workshop, wrote:
On Tue, 3 Mar 2026 20:24:01 +0000
"David B." <[email protected]> wrote:
How To Protect Your Mac From Malware
Learn from Gary! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ebOFPd755A
You can protect your Mac from being bricked by following three simple >>>>> rules.
1. Never ever, ever, ever bring your computer to The Prescott Computer >>>> Guy who is also known as Michael Glasser of Prescott Arizona, snit,
brock mcnuggets and dozens of other fake aliases.
He will destroy your computer and then blame you for doing it.
2. See #1.
3. See #2.
You have been warned.
A solid warning!
Never bring your computer to any friggin' "repair man." Look what
happened to Hunter Biden and countless other unsuspecting sad sacks.
Pulverize the HD with a sledge hammer, bury it in your backyard, then
recycle what's left with Goodwill or somebody.
If your data isn't backed up two or three times then you're too dumb to
own and operate a computer.
It depends upon the shop of course. In the case of Hunter he abandoned his laptop and didn't respond to requests by the shop owner to pick it up.
The rest is history.
However, there are far more incompetent computer repair shops than good ones. Sad but true.
Take Michael Glasser also known as snit, Brock McNuggets and numerous other nyms, for example.
He started a computer repair business
from his double-wide and ending up bricking
client's computers so badly that a competing brick and mortar shop in town was
offering a discount to potential clients who had the misfortune of having their computers bricked by Michael Glasser.
At the time various people on Usenet where Michael Glasser trolls actually called the shop and verified that this was indeed true.
The real fun doesn't begin until snit asked for advice on how to repair his own
Mac.
Gremlin fixed it for him.
so the idiot Michael Glasser was unable to fix his own Mac.
It's no wonder that he bricked other people's computers.
So the OP is spot on correct as is Gremlin.
On 07/03/2026 05:57, Gremlin wrote:
Octothorpe Obelus <[email protected]>
news:20260303191638.474e3819@weed Wed, 04 Mar 2026 00:16:38 GMT in
alt.computer.workshop, wrote:
On Tue, 3 Mar 2026 20:24:01 +0000
"David B." <[email protected]> wrote:
How To Protect Your Mac From Malware
Learn from Gary! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ebOFPd755A
You can protect your Mac from being bricked by following three simple
rules.
1. Never ever, ever, ever bring your computer to The Prescott Computer
Guy who is also known as Michael Glasser of Prescott Arizona, snit,
brock mcnuggets and dozens of other fake aliases.
He will destroy your computer and then blame you for doing it.
2. See #1.
3. See #2.
You have been warned.
A solid warning!
“Most software downloaded onto a Mac is "installed", usually in Applications, and shows up in System Information > Installations.
Once
there, software can be scanned with an AV software package to check for malware.
However, a popular tool often recommended by advisors on the
Apple Support Communities forums (EtreCheck) cannot be checked in this manner.
EtreCheck claims NOT to be "installed" - indeed, it does NOT show up in Applications or Installations - so just HOW can it be scanned by anti- malware software BEFORE being given free reign on an Apple computer?”
=
That is a question asked in the "Comments" section under the video.
Do YOU know the answer?
pothead wrote:
On 2026-03-07, super70s <[email protected]d> wrote:snit hasn't been here for a week and you're still luggin a boner for him
On 2026-03-07 05:57:47 +0000, Gremlin said:
Octothorpe Obelus <[email protected]>
news:20260303191638.474e3819@weed Wed, 04 Mar 2026 00:16:38 GMT in
alt.computer.workshop, wrote:
On Tue, 3 Mar 2026 20:24:01 +0000
"David B." <[email protected]> wrote:
How To Protect Your Mac From Malware
Learn from Gary! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ebOFPd755A
You can protect your Mac from being bricked by following three simple >>>>>> rules.
1. Never ever, ever, ever bring your computer to The Prescott Computer >>>>> Guy who is also known as Michael Glasser of Prescott Arizona, snit,
brock mcnuggets and dozens of other fake aliases.
He will destroy your computer and then blame you for doing it.
2. See #1.
3. See #2.
You have been warned.
A solid warning!
Never bring your computer to any friggin' "repair man." Look what
happened to Hunter Biden and countless other unsuspecting sad sacks.
Pulverize the HD with a sledge hammer, bury it in your backyard, then
recycle what's left with Goodwill or somebody.
If your data isn't backed up two or three times then you're too dumb to
own and operate a computer.
It depends upon the shop of course. In the case of Hunter he abandoned his >> laptop and didn't respond to requests by the shop owner to pick it up.
The rest is history.
However, there are far more incompetent computer repair shops than good ones.
Sad but true.
Take Michael Glasser also known as snit, Brock McNuggets and numerous other >> nyms, for example.
He started a computer repair business from his double-wide and ending up
bricking
client's computers so badly that a competing brick and mortar shop in town was
offering a discount to potential clients who had the misfortune of having
their computers bricked by Michael Glasser.
At the time various people on Usenet where Michael Glasser trolls actually >> called the shop and verified that this was indeed true.
The real fun doesn't begin until snit asked for advice on how to repair his own
Mac.
Gremlin fixed it for him.
so the idiot Michael Glasser was unable to fix his own Mac.
It's no wonder that he bricked other people's computers.
So the OP is spot on correct as is Gremlin.
you sick fk'in sperm bank
On Mar 7, 2026 at 8:26:53 PM MST, "%" wrote ><[email protected]>:
pothead wrote:
On 2026-03-07, super70s <[email protected]d> wrote:snit hasn't been here for a week and you're still luggin a boner for
On 2026-03-07 05:57:47 +0000, Gremlin said:
Octothorpe Obelus <[email protected]>
news:20260303191638.474e3819@weed Wed, 04 Mar 2026 00:16:38 GMT in
alt.computer.workshop, wrote:
On Tue, 3 Mar 2026 20:24:01 +0000
"David B." <[email protected]> wrote:
How To Protect Your Mac From Malware
Learn from Gary! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ebOFPd755A
You can protect your Mac from being bricked by following three
simple rules.
1. Never ever, ever, ever bring your computer to The Prescott
Computer Guy who is also known as Michael Glasser of Prescott
Arizona, snit, brock mcnuggets and dozens of other fake aliases.
He will destroy your computer and then blame you for doing it.
2. See #1.
3. See #2.
You have been warned.
A solid warning!
Never bring your computer to any friggin' "repair man." Look what
happened to Hunter Biden and countless other unsuspecting sad sacks.
Pulverize the HD with a sledge hammer, bury it in your backyard, then
recycle what's left with Goodwill or somebody.
If your data isn't backed up two or three times then you're too dumb
to own and operate a computer.
It depends upon the shop of course. In the case of Hunter he abandoned
his laptop and didn't respond to requests by the shop owner to pick it
up. The rest is history.
However, there are far more incompetent computer repair shops than
good ones. Sad but true.
Take Michael Glasser also known as snit, Brock McNuggets and numerous
other nyms, for example.
He started a computer repair business from his double-wide and ending
up bricking
client's computers so badly that a competing brick and mortar shop in
town was offering a discount to potential clients who had the
misfortune of having their computers bricked by Michael Glasser.
At the time various people on Usenet where Michael Glasser trolls
actually called the shop and verified that this was indeed true.
The real fun doesn't begin until snit asked for advice on how to
repair his own Mac.
Gremlin fixed it for him.
so the idiot Michael Glasser was unable to fix his own Mac.
It's no wonder that he bricked other people's computers.
So the OP is spot on correct as is Gremlin.
him you sick fk'in sperm bank
Still attacking up.
And lying.
Businesses with bizarre discounts?
Me making public requests but no MID or quote?
Pothead is just angry I called her out on being the white supremacist she
is.
On Tue, 3 Mar 2026 20:24:01 +0000
"David B." <[email protected]> wrote:
How To Protect Your Mac From Malware
Learn from Gary! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ebOFPd755A
You can protect your Mac from being bricked by following three simple
rules.
1. Never ever, ever, ever bring your computer to The Prescott Computer
Guy who is also known as Michael Glasser of Prescott Arizona, snit,
brock mcnuggets and dozens of other fake aliases.
He will destroy your computer and then blame you for doing it.
2. See #1.
3. See #2.
You have been warned.
On Mar 7, 2026 at 1:24:51 AM MST, ""David B."" wrote <[email protected]>:
On 07/03/2026 05:57, Gremlin wrote:
Octothorpe Obelus <[email protected]>
news:20260303191638.474e3819@weed Wed, 04 Mar 2026 00:16:38 GMT in
alt.computer.workshop, wrote:
On Tue, 3 Mar 2026 20:24:01 +0000
"David B." <[email protected]> wrote:
How To Protect Your Mac From Malware
Learn from Gary! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ebOFPd755A
“Most software downloaded onto a Mac is "installed", usually in
Applications, and shows up in System Information > Installations.
This is not true.
Once
there, software can be scanned with an AV software package to check for
malware.
There or elsewhere.
However, a popular tool often recommended by advisors on the
Apple Support Communities forums (EtreCheck) cannot be checked in this
manner.
Not sure what you mean by this. That only apps in the Applications folder can be scanned? That they have to be in the System Information database? Either way that is not true.
EtreCheck claims NOT to be "installed" - indeed, it does NOT show up in
Applications or Installations - so just HOW can it be scanned by anti-
malware software BEFORE being given free reign on an Apple computer?”
What would prevent it?
That is a question asked in the "Comments" section under the video.
I do not see it.
Do YOU know the answer?
It does not matter if an app is in the Applications folder or not, nor if it had a "real" installer (most Mac apps do not), it can still be scanned.
On 08/03/2026 05:23, Brock McNuggets wrote:
On Mar 7, 2026 at 1:24:51 AM MST, ""David B."" wrote
<[email protected]>:
On 07/03/2026 05:57, Gremlin wrote:
Octothorpe Obelus <[email protected]>
news:20260303191638.474e3819@weed Wed, 04 Mar 2026 00:16:38 GMT in
alt.computer.workshop, wrote:
On Tue, 3 Mar 2026 20:24:01 +0000
"David B." <[email protected]> wrote:
How To Protect Your Mac From Malware
Learn from Gary! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ebOFPd755A
[...]
“Most software downloaded onto a Mac is "installed", usually in
Applications, and shows up in System Information > Installations.
This is not true.
Most 3rd party software, not from the Apple App Store, may be found there.
Have you inspected YOUR Installations folder to check?
FWIW, here is a screenshot showing most of the current 3rd-party
software installed on my SSD. You will note at the blue line that Storeograph, another software from EtreSoft Inc which is available from
the Apple App Store *IS* showing, but that EtreCheck does not.
Are you able to explain WHY that is?
Once
there, software can be scanned with an AV software package to check for
malware.
There or elsewhere.
There IS no application to drag into ESET to scan it.
Where else can the application be found if it is not actually installed?
However, a popular tool often recommended by advisors on the
Apple Support Communities forums (EtreCheck) cannot be checked in this
manner.
Not sure what you mean by this. That only apps in the Applications folder can
be scanned? That they have to be in the System Information database? Either >> way that is not true.
I appreciate that when EtreCheck is in my 'Downloads' folder it CAN be scanned - but it poses no danger there. Once it is launched -t simply disappears - to where?
EtreCheck claims NOT to be "installed" - indeed, it does NOT show up in
Applications or Installations - so just HOW can it be scanned by anti-
malware software BEFORE being given free reign on an Apple computer?”
What would prevent it?
How can one find it?
That is a question asked in the "Comments" section under the video.
I do not see it.
Here - clear as day! https://i.ibb.co/9mgdS96R/Screenshot-2026-03-08-at-11-02-15.png
Do YOU know the answer?
It does not matter if an app is in the Applications folder or not, nor if it >> had a "real" installer (most Mac apps do not), it can still be scanned.
Please explain *HOW* I can scan it once it has been launched.
Thanks for helping me understand this!
"David B." <[email protected]> news:[email protected]
Sat, 07 Mar 2026 08:24:51 GMT in alt.computer.workshop, wrote:
Most software downloaded onto a Mac is "installed", usually in
Applications, and shows up in System Information > Installations. Once
there, software can be scanned with an AV software package to check for
malware. However, a popular tool often recommended by advisors on the
Apple Support Communities forums (EtreCheck) cannot be checked in this
manner.
I'd hate to think that malware can hide by simply choosing not to be shown
in system information and no icons to click to execute it installed for
you. If that's actually the case, that's a serious uhh, oversight on the
part of Apple conerning security. I strongly suspect that you've
completely misunderstood what you've read about the subject. The latter
seems much more likely.
EtreCheck claims NOT to be "installed" - indeed, it does NOT show up in
Applications or Installations
How many more times are you going to proudly display your ignorance level concerning what I and I suspect a lot of other tech savvy people would consider to be basic information and knowledge? Please, David, tell me
that you're putting us on with this reply of yours?!? That you aren't actually serious?
so just HOW can it be scanned by anti-
malware software BEFORE being given free reign on an Apple computer?”
There's actually several ways I can think of just off the top of my head, David. Computers really are like black magic or voodoo to you yea? It's
okay to admit that's the situation.
That is a question asked in the "Comments" section under the video.
Okay. And? Are you the author of the question, David?
Do YOU know the answer?
Yes, I do. And, I'm not the only individual posting here who does. Apd and FTR both do as well. All three of us have told you at least two ways to
scan such things before. It's beyond time for you to put down the bottle
and spend more time learning how to pull older articles. Make notes for yourself going forward. That way, you don't have to keep sliming the
product *cough cough* I mean, asking questions about how it works.
Naturally you aren't trying to indirectly accuse it's author of using it
to plant malware on your machine. Right, David?
I completely wasted my time reverse engineering it twice to confirm that
it's not malicious. I never expected to find anything, I simply confirmed what I already suspected when you were inferring the program might be malicious. Basically, what you're doing (again) with this post of yours.
Your posts content has *nothing whatsoever* to do with the discussion
already taking place.
Why is it so difficult for you to create a new thread vs attempting to
hijack another one (this one is a great exmaple but it's hardly the first time for you) with your completely off topic nonsense disguised as a legit question?
You have a problem with the author of Etrecheck - all because they weren't interested in your dingbat emails you're known for sending to people. You come off as a fucking k00k because you go and do k00k like things. Let it
go, David. The software is not malicious. The author isn't a bad guy.
You *are a bad guy* and you have been for as long as I've had the
misfortune of knowing you exist.
On Mar 8, 2026 at 6:11:02 AM MST, ""David B."" wrote <[email protected]>:
On 08/03/2026 05:23, Brock McNuggets wrote:
On Mar 7, 2026 at 1:24:51 AM MST, ""David B."" wrote
<[email protected]>:
On 07/03/2026 05:57, Gremlin wrote:
Octothorpe Obelus <[email protected]>
news:20260303191638.474e3819@weed Wed, 04 Mar 2026 00:16:38 GMT in
alt.computer.workshop, wrote:
On Tue, 3 Mar 2026 20:24:01 +0000
"David B." <[email protected]> wrote:
How To Protect Your Mac From Malware
Learn from Gary! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ebOFPd755A
[...]
“Most software downloaded onto a Mac is "installed", usually in
Applications, and shows up in System Information > Installations.
This is not true.
Most 3rd party software, not from the Apple App Store, may be found there.
By "there" do you mean Applications folder or System Information > Installations? Seems the SI >I, but what makes you think that?
Have you inspected YOUR Installations folder to check?
Installations folder? What are you talking about? Do you mean SI >I? If so of course I have a lot of software in my Applications folder that does not show up there. If you are looking for a list of Applications then go to System Information >Applications.
FWIW, here is a screenshot showing most of the current 3rd-party
software installed on my SSD. You will note at the blue line that
Storeograph, another software from EtreSoft Inc which is available from
the Apple App Store *IS* showing, but that EtreCheck does not.
Are you able to explain WHY that is?
I do not see a screenshot... but does the other app use a .pkg installer? Drag
and drop apps do not generally show there. Do they ever?
Once
there, software can be scanned with an AV software package to check for >>>> malware.
There or elsewhere.
There IS no application to drag into ESET to scan it.
Where else can the application be found if it is not actually installed?
Are you asking where you moved the app? Are you saying it moved itself from the downloads folder? I have not used it in forever but FOR YOU downloaded it.
Ran it. It is right where I left it. So where did you move it? Why not do a search for it if you moved it and forgot where? Why is this something bad, in your mind, about the app you are moving? None of this is making any sense.
You can also find it in System Information > Applications.
However, a popular tool often recommended by advisors on the
Apple Support Communities forums (EtreCheck) cannot be checked in this >>>> manner.
Not sure what you mean by this. That only apps in the Applications folder can
be scanned? That they have to be in the System Information database? Either >>> way that is not true.
I appreciate that when EtreCheck is in my 'Downloads' folder it CAN be
scanned - but it poses no danger there. Once it is launched -t simply
disappears - to where?
Please make a video of this happening because what you describe makes no sense
and is not at all what is happening on my system.
EtreCheck claims NOT to be "installed" - indeed, it does NOT show up in >>>> Applications or Installations - so just HOW can it be scanned by anti- >>>> malware software BEFORE being given free reign on an Apple computer?” >>>What would prevent it?
How can one find it?
If you moved it and forgot where do a search, of course.
That is a question asked in the "Comments" section under the video.
I do not see it.
Here - clear as day!
https://i.ibb.co/9mgdS96R/Screenshot-2026-03-08-at-11-02-15.png
Ah, mine was only showing top level comments. But you will likely be ignored given how your comment does not really make sense. It is filled with innuendo and suspicion and is not tied to how macOS or Etrecheck works.
Do YOU know the answer?
It does not matter if an app is in the Applications folder or not, nor if it
had a "real" installer (most Mac apps do not), it can still be scanned.
Please explain *HOW* I can scan it once it has been launched.
If you have an AV software package just run it. If you want to check just that
app then drag it to the AV package (in most cases).
Thanks for helping me understand this!
You are starting with so many incorrect assumptions I think you will have a hard time understanding. Let me try to list some of those assumptions:
* That most software shows up System Information > Installations
Not true.
* That software has to be in the Applications folder to run.
Not true.
* That EtreCheck is somehow disappearing from Downloads.
Not true.
* That software has to be in Applications to be scanned.
Not true.
You have been "investigating" this stuff for years. I do not understand how you can be asking these things. I doubt Gary will spend any time trying to help you on this, nor should he. That is not him being evil or wrong, just not
wanting to take a lot of time to correct such deep misunderstanding when your goal is not to understand but to attack EtreCheck and its author.
On 08/03/2026 17:51, Brock McNuggets wrote:
On Mar 8, 2026 at 6:11:02 AM MST, ""David B."" wrote
<[email protected]>:
On 08/03/2026 05:23, Brock McNuggets wrote:By "there" do you mean Applications folder or System Information >
On Mar 7, 2026 at 1:24:51 AM MST, ""David B."" wrote
<[email protected]>:
On 07/03/2026 05:57, Gremlin wrote:
Octothorpe Obelus <[email protected]>
news:20260303191638.474e3819@weed Wed, 04 Mar 2026 00:16:38 GMT in >>>>>> alt.computer.workshop, wrote:
On Tue, 3 Mar 2026 20:24:01 +0000
"David B." <[email protected]> wrote:
How To Protect Your Mac From Malware
Learn from Gary! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ebOFPd755A
[...]
“Most software downloaded onto a Mac is "installed", usually in
Applications, and shows up in System Information > Installations.
This is not true.
Most 3rd party software, not from the Apple App Store, may be found there. >>
Installations? Seems the SI >I, but what makes you think that?
Yes, SI>I ....... I've looked and seen it!
Have you inspected YOUR Installations folder to check?
Installations folder? What are you talking about? Do you mean SI >I? If so of
course I have a lot of software in my Applications folder that does not show >> up there. If you are looking for a list of Applications then go to System
Information >Applications.
I've done that - and nothing is showing. I've just looked on my M1
MacBook Air and that DOES have entries.
FWIW, here is a screenshot showing most of the current 3rd-party
software installed on my SSD. You will note at the blue line that
Storeograph, another software from EtreSoft Inc which is available from
the Apple App Store *IS* showing, but that EtreCheck does not.
Are you able to explain WHY that is?
I do not see a screenshot... but does the other app use a .pkg installer? Drag
and drop apps do not generally show there. Do they ever?
Sorry! Here it is:-
https://i.ibb.co/fYKjf51Y/Screenshot-2026-03-08-at-12-59-28.png
Once
there, software can be scanned with an AV software package to check for >>>>> malware.
There or elsewhere.
There IS no application to drag into ESET to scan it.
Where else can the application be found if it is not actually installed?
Are you asking where you moved the app? Are you saying it moved itself from >> the downloads folder? I have not used it in forever but FOR YOU downloaded it.
Ran it. It is right where I left it. So where did you move it? Why not do a >> search for it if you moved it and forgot where? Why is this something bad, in
your mind, about the app you are moving? None of this is making any sense.
I'm going to download it again and check what happens again.
Most Apps I drag into Applications and there they stay.
From what I remember, once it is set in motion there is no App to find.
You can also find it in System Information > Applications.
Not on THIS computer. I have no idea why!
However, a popular tool often recommended by advisors on the
Apple Support Communities forums (EtreCheck) cannot be checked in this >>>>> manner.
Not sure what you mean by this. That only apps in the Applications folder can
be scanned? That they have to be in the System Information database? Either
way that is not true.
I appreciate that when EtreCheck is in my 'Downloads' folder it CAN be
scanned - but it poses no danger there. Once it is launched -t simply
disappears - to where?
Please make a video of this happening because what you describe makes no sense
and is not at all what is happening on my system.
I'll have to have a think about that!
EtreCheck claims NOT to be "installed" - indeed, it does NOT show up in >>>>> Applications or Installations - so just HOW can it be scanned by anti- >>>>> malware software BEFORE being given free reign on an Apple computer?” >>>>What would prevent it?
How can one find it?
If you moved it and forgot where do a search, of course.
For what would I search? JD claims it is NOT installed!
That is a question asked in the "Comments" section under the video.
I do not see it.
Here - clear as day!
https://i.ibb.co/9mgdS96R/Screenshot-2026-03-08-at-11-02-15.png
Ah, mine was only showing top level comments. But you will likely be ignored >> given how your comment does not really make sense. It is filled with innuendo
and suspicion and is not tied to how macOS or Etrecheck works.
There is only "innuendo" if you want to see it!
Please explain *HOW* I can scan it once it has been launched.Do YOU know the answer?
It does not matter if an app is in the Applications folder or not, nor if it
had a "real" installer (most Mac apps do not), it can still be scanned. >>>
If you have an AV software package just run it. If you want to check just that
app then drag it to the AV package (in most cases).
When it's in "Downloads" it can do no harm.
A scan there will find
nothing. I've done that.
Once it is launched/running, it becomes a will 'o the wisp!
Thanks for helping me understand this!
You are starting with so many incorrect assumptions I think you will have a >> hard time understanding. Let me try to list some of those assumptions:
* That most software shows up System Information > Installations
Not true.
It is for me on this computer.
* That software has to be in the Applications folder to run.
Not true.
I completely agree.
* That EtreCheck is somehow disappearing from Downloads.
Not true.
EtreCheck files/folders do stay in Downloads (but I'll check.
* That software has to be in Applications to be scanned.
Not true.
I can locate no other place where it can be found if I don't put it there.
You have been "investigating" this stuff for years. I do not understand how >> you can be asking these things. I doubt Gary will spend any time trying to >> help you on this, nor should he. That is not him being evil or wrong, just not
wanting to take a lot of time to correct such deep misunderstanding when your
goal is not to understand but to attack EtreCheck and its author.
This is the advice Gary first gave me:-
https://macmost.com/forum/do-you-recommend-etrecheck.html
"David: Even if I did download it and try it, there is no way to prove
that it is safe to run. You can't test for that. So if this is a concern
(and it probably should be for everyone) then err on the safe side and
don't use it."
On Mar 8, 2026, Brock McNuggets wrote:You have been "investigating" this stuff for years. I do not understand how >>> you can be asking these things. I doubt Gary will spend any time trying to >>> help you on this, nor should he. That is not him being evil or wrong, just not
wanting to take a lot of time to correct such deep misunderstanding when your
goal is not to understand but to attack EtreCheck and its author.
This is the advice Gary first gave me:-
https://macmost.com/forum/do-you-recommend-etrecheck.html
"David: Even if I did download it and try it, there is no way to prove
that it is safe to run. You can't test for that. So if this is a concern
(and it probably should be for everyone) then err on the safe side and
don't use it."
And you do not understand that either. After years. You are attacking an innocent man and his well respected software out of fear and ignorance. Please
stop.
On 08/03/2026 21:36, Brock McNuggets wrote:I have EtreCheck on my system, and it appears just fine.
[....]
On Mar 8, 2026, Brock McNuggets wrote:You have been "investigating" this stuff for years. I do not
understand how
you can be asking these things. I doubt Gary will spend any time
trying to
help you on this, nor should he. That is not him being evil or
wrong, just not
wanting to take a lot of time to correct such deep misunderstanding
when your
goal is not to understand but to attack EtreCheck and its author.
This is the advice Gary first gave me:-
https://macmost.com/forum/do-you-recommend-etrecheck.html
"David: Even if I did download it and try it, there is no way to prove
that it is safe to run. You can't test for that. So if this is a concern >>> (and it probably should be for everyone) then err on the safe side and
don't use it."
And you do not understand that either. After years. You are attacking an
innocent man and his well respected software out of fear and
ignorance. Please
stop.
No, you say you want to find truth but you are not. You are pushing attacks against an innocent man and speaking poorly of him and his software for no good reason. It is not right.
You seem to be misunderstanding my objective. This isn't about
"attacking" anyone; it is about transparency and understanding the
technical behavior of software on macOS.
Regarding your points:
System Information > Installations: On my M1 MacBook Air, this section
lists a significant amount of third-party software. If EtreCheck does
not appear there, while other non-App Store apps do, it’s a valid technical question to ask why that is the case.
On 2026-03-08 15:21, David B. wrote:[....]
On 08/03/2026 21:36, Brock McNuggets wrote:
System Information > Installations: On my M1 MacBook Air, this section
lists a significant amount of third-party software. If EtreCheck does
not appear there, while other non-App Store apps do, it’s a valid
technical question to ask why that is the case.
I have EtreCheck on my system, and it appears just fine.
So my bet is that you're lying about all of this.
On 08/03/2026 04:28, Gremlin wrote:
"David B." <[email protected]> news:[email protected]
Sat, 07 Mar 2026 08:24:51 GMT in alt.computer.workshop, wrote:
Most software downloaded onto a Mac is "installed", usually in
Applications, and shows up in System Information > Installations. Once
there, software can be scanned with an AV software package to check for
malware. However, a popular tool often recommended by advisors on the
Apple Support Communities forums (EtreCheck) cannot be checked in this
manner.
I'd hate to think that malware can hide by simply choosing not to be shown >> in system information and no icons to click to execute it installed for
you. If that's actually the case, that's a serious uhh, oversight on the
part of Apple conerning security. I strongly suspect that you've
completely misunderstood what you've read about the subject. The latter
seems much more likely.
Maybe so.
EtreCheck claims NOT to be "installed" - indeed, it does NOT show up in
Applications or Installations
How many more times are you going to proudly display your ignorance level
concerning what I and I suspect a lot of other tech savvy people would
consider to be basic information and knowledge? Please, David, tell me
that you're putting us on with this reply of yours?!? That you aren't
actually serious?
Sadly, Dustin, I really do NOT know how the EtreCheck software works.
so just HOW can it be scanned by anti-
malware software BEFORE being given free reign on an Apple computer?”
There's actually several ways I can think of just off the top of my head,
David. Computers really are like black magic or voodoo to you yea? It's
okay to admit that's the situation.
Nowadays, my Apple computer does seem to behave in magical ways!
That is a question asked in the "Comments" section under the video.
Okay. And? Are you the author of the question, David?
Yes.
Do YOU know the answer?
Yes, I do. And, I'm not the only individual posting here who does. Apd and >> FTR both do as well. All three of us have told you at least two ways to
scan such things before. It's beyond time for you to put down the bottle
and spend more time learning how to pull older articles. Make notes for
yourself going forward. That way, you don't have to keep sliming the
product *cough cough* I mean, asking questions about how it works.
Naturally you aren't trying to indirectly accuse it's author of using it
to plant malware on your machine. Right, David?
Absolutely not. John Daniel presumably makes a living in some way or
another but evidence of same eludes me.
I completely wasted my time reverse engineering it twice to confirm that
it's not malicious. I never expected to find anything, I simply confirmed
what I already suspected when you were inferring the program might be
malicious. Basically, what you're doing (again) with this post of yours.
Your posts content has *nothing whatsoever* to do with the discussion
already taking place.
Don't be daft. What you have ignored is the open backdoor which
EtreCheck installs in a Mac computer!
Why is it so difficult for you to create a new thread vs attempting to
hijack another one (this one is a great exmaple but it's hardly the first
time for you) with your completely off topic nonsense disguised as a legit >> question?
Don't be daft - I *started* this thread!
You have a problem with the author of Etrecheck - all because they weren't >> interested in your dingbat emails you're known for sending to people. You
come off as a fucking k00k because you go and do k00k like things. Let it
go, David. The software is not malicious. The author isn't a bad guy.
Even Gemini tells me that! Thanks.
You *are a bad guy* and you have been for as long as I've had the
misfortune of knowing you exist.
That's where you've got things completely arse about face!
On 08/03/2026 21:36, Brock McNuggets wrote:
[....]
On Mar 8, 2026, Brock McNuggets wrote:You have been "investigating" this stuff for years. I do not understand how
you can be asking these things. I doubt Gary will spend any time trying to >>>> help you on this, nor should he. That is not him being evil or wrong, just not
wanting to take a lot of time to correct such deep misunderstanding when your
goal is not to understand but to attack EtreCheck and its author.
This is the advice Gary first gave me:-
https://macmost.com/forum/do-you-recommend-etrecheck.html
"David: Even if I did download it and try it, there is no way to prove
that it is safe to run. You can't test for that. So if this is a concern >>> (and it probably should be for everyone) then err on the safe side and
don't use it."
And you do not understand that either. After years. You are attacking an
innocent man and his well respected software out of fear and ignorance. Please
stop.
No, you say you want to find truth but you are not. You are pushing attacks against an innocent man and speaking poorly of him and his software for no good reason. It is not right.
You seem to be misunderstanding my objective.
This isn't about
"attacking" anyone; it is about transparency and understanding the
technical behavior of software on macOS.
Regarding your points:
System Information > Installations: On my M1 MacBook Air, this section
lists a significant amount of third-party software.
If EtreCheck does
not appear there, while other non-App Store apps do, it’s a valid
technical question to ask why that is the case.
The "Disappearing" App: When I download and run EtreCheck, it doesn't
behave like a standard persistent application in the way most users
expect.
If I cannot find the binary to drag into a scanner like ESET
after it has been initialized, that is a functional hurdle for someone
trying to maintain a strict security posture.
Scanning in Downloads: You mentioned that an app can do harm from the Downloads folder. My point was that for many users, the "harm" is
perceived to occur upon execution.
If I scan it while it's a static file
in Downloads and it comes up clean, but then I cannot locate the active components once it’s running, that is the "will 'o the wisp" behavior I
am referring to.
Gary’s Advice: Gary’s own stance was quite clear: if there is no way to prove a tool is 100% safe, it is better to err on the side of caution. I
am simply following that logic by trying to verify exactly what the
software is doing and where it resides.
I am not "confused" — I am observant.
If the software is as
well-respected as you say, it should be able to withstand basic scrutiny regarding its installation footprint and visibility to security tools.
On 08/03/2026 23:21, Alan wrote:
On 2026-03-08 15:21, David B. wrote:[....]
On 08/03/2026 21:36, Brock McNuggets wrote:
System Information > Installations: On my M1 MacBook Air, this section
lists a significant amount of third-party software. If EtreCheck does
not appear there, while other non-App Store apps do, it’s a valid
technical question to ask why that is the case.
I have EtreCheck on my system, and it appears just fine.
Will you post a screenshot showing /where/ EtreSoft appears, please?
So my bet is that you're lying about all of this.
Why on earth should I lie about this matter?
When looking in System Information > Applications ..... NOTHING is shown
on this iMac.
(No information found - those are the exact words)--
On 2026-03-08 15:21, David B. wrote:
On 08/03/2026 21:36, Brock McNuggets wrote:I have EtreCheck on my system, and it appears just fine.
[....]
On Mar 8, 2026, Brock McNuggets wrote:You have been "investigating" this stuff for years. I do not
understand how
you can be asking these things. I doubt Gary will spend any time
trying to
help you on this, nor should he. That is not him being evil or
wrong, just not
wanting to take a lot of time to correct such deep misunderstanding
when your
goal is not to understand but to attack EtreCheck and its author.
This is the advice Gary first gave me:-
https://macmost.com/forum/do-you-recommend-etrecheck.html
"David: Even if I did download it and try it, there is no way to prove >>>> that it is safe to run. You can't test for that. So if this is a concern >>>> (and it probably should be for everyone) then err on the safe side and >>>> don't use it."
And you do not understand that either. After years. You are attacking an >>> innocent man and his well respected software out of fear and
ignorance. Please
stop.
No, you say you want to find truth but you are not. You are pushing attacks >> against an innocent man and speaking poorly of him and his software for no >> good reason. It is not right.
You seem to be misunderstanding my objective. This isn't about
"attacking" anyone; it is about transparency and understanding the
technical behavior of software on macOS.
Regarding your points:
System Information > Installations: On my M1 MacBook Air, this section
lists a significant amount of third-party software. If EtreCheck does
not appear there, while other non-App Store apps do, it’s a valid
technical question to ask why that is the case.
So my bet is that you're lying about all of this.
On 08/03/2026 23:21, Alan wrote:
On 2026-03-08 15:21, David B. wrote:[....]
On 08/03/2026 21:36, Brock McNuggets wrote:
System Information > Installations: On my M1 MacBook Air, this
section lists a significant amount of third-party software. If
EtreCheck does not appear there, while other non-App Store apps do,
it’s a valid technical question to ask why that is the case.
I have EtreCheck on my system, and it appears just fine.
Will you post a screenshot showing /where/ EtreSoft appears, please?
So my bet is that you're lying about all of this.
Why on earth should I lie about this matter?
When looking in System Information > Applications ..... NOTHING is shownThen you're lying about having it installed.
on this iMac.
(No information found - those are the exact words)
On 2026-03-08 16:36, David B. wrote:
On 08/03/2026 23:21, Alan wrote:
On 2026-03-08 15:21, David B. wrote:[....]
On 08/03/2026 21:36, Brock McNuggets wrote:
System Information > Installations: On my M1 MacBook Air, this
section lists a significant amount of third-party software. If
EtreCheck does not appear there, while other non-App Store apps do,
it’s a valid technical question to ask why that is the case.
I have EtreCheck on my system, and it appears just fine.
Will you post a screenshot showing /where/ EtreSoft appears, please?
Sure! Why not?
<https://drive.google.com/file/d/1yJ2IQlpwmPCDi-ND3yG4wjEpHEWJyYdC/view? usp=share_link>
So my bet is that you're lying about all of this.
Why on earth should I lie about this matter?
Because you're a bitter little man.
When looking in System Information > Applications ..... NOTHING is
shown on this iMac.
(No information found - those are the exact words)
Then you're lying about having it installed.
On Mar 8, 2026 at 1:04:46 PM MST, ""David B."" wrote <[email protected]>:
On 08/03/2026 04:28, Gremlin wrote:
"David B." <[email protected]> news:[email protected]
Sat, 07 Mar 2026 08:24:51 GMT in alt.computer.workshop, wrote:
Most software downloaded onto a Mac is "installed", usually in
Applications, and shows up in System Information > Installations. Once >>>> there, software can be scanned with an AV software package to check for >>>> malware. However, a popular tool often recommended by advisors on the
Apple Support Communities forums (EtreCheck) cannot be checked in this >>>> manner.
I'd hate to think that malware can hide by simply choosing not to be shown >>> in system information and no icons to click to execute it installed for
you. If that's actually the case, that's a serious uhh, oversight on the >>> part of Apple conerning security. I strongly suspect that you've
completely misunderstood what you've read about the subject. The latter
seems much more likely.
Maybe so.
For once Gremlin and I are very much in agreement.
EtreCheck claims NOT to be "installed" - indeed, it does NOT show up in >>>> Applications or Installations
How many more times are you going to proudly display your ignorance level >>> concerning what I and I suspect a lot of other tech savvy people would
consider to be basic information and knowledge? Please, David, tell me
that you're putting us on with this reply of yours?!? That you aren't
actually serious?
Sadly, Dustin, I really do NOT know how the EtreCheck software works.
You do not understand even the basics of how software on macOS works, even from the user perspective. Not saying you need to -- you don't -- but your lack of understanding tied to your irrational distrust of Etrecheck leads you to ask questions and make insinuations which are not rooted in real issues.
so just HOW can it be scanned by anti-There's actually several ways I can think of just off the top of my head, >>> David. Computers really are like black magic or voodoo to you yea? It's
malware software BEFORE being given free reign on an Apple computer?” >>>
okay to admit that's the situation.
Nowadays, my Apple computer does seem to behave in magical ways!
And that is OK.
That is a question asked in the "Comments" section under the video.
Okay. And? Are you the author of the question, David?
Yes.
Do YOU know the answer?
Yes, I do. And, I'm not the only individual posting here who does. Apd and >>> FTR both do as well. All three of us have told you at least two ways to
scan such things before. It's beyond time for you to put down the bottle >>> and spend more time learning how to pull older articles. Make notes for
yourself going forward. That way, you don't have to keep sliming the
product *cough cough* I mean, asking questions about how it works.
Naturally you aren't trying to indirectly accuse it's author of using it >>> to plant malware on your machine. Right, David?
Absolutely not. John Daniel presumably makes a living in some way or
another but evidence of same eludes me.
Again I have strong agreement with Gremlin. Your insinuations are not as bad as what he and Carroll and pothead do with their nonsense against me, but it borders on it. It is deeply inappropriate and I back the author refusing to speak to you.
I completely wasted my time reverse engineering it twice to confirm that >>> it's not malicious. I never expected to find anything, I simply confirmed >>> what I already suspected when you were inferring the program might be
malicious. Basically, what you're doing (again) with this post of yours. >>> Your posts content has *nothing whatsoever* to do with the discussion
already taking place.
Don't be daft. What you have ignored is the open backdoor which
EtreCheck installs in a Mac computer!
See: this is you simply not understanding and speaking poorly of a product. It
is not appropriate.
Why is it so difficult for you to create a new thread vs attempting to
hijack another one (this one is a great exmaple but it's hardly the first >>> time for you) with your completely off topic nonsense disguised as a legit >>> question?
Don't be daft - I *started* this thread!
You have a problem with the author of Etrecheck - all because they weren't >>> interested in your dingbat emails you're known for sending to people. You >>> come off as a fucking k00k because you go and do k00k like things. Let it >>> go, David. The software is not malicious. The author isn't a bad guy.
Even Gemini tells me that! Thanks.
And again I have strong agreement. Let it go. You have spent years and you still are saying bizarre things like it disappearing and then complaining it does not show up on lists it should not. It is just not helping you or anyone to continue this irrational focus of yours.
You *are a bad guy* and you have been for as long as I've had the
misfortune of knowing you exist.
That's where you've got things completely arse about face!
You are not a bad guy. You do not mean harm as Gremlin and Carroll and Pothead
do. But you are causing harm. You are harming an innocent man. Please stop!
On 09/03/2026 00:50, Alan wrote:
On 2026-03-08 16:36, David B. wrote:
On 08/03/2026 23:21, Alan wrote:
On 2026-03-08 15:21, David B. wrote:[....]
On 08/03/2026 21:36, Brock McNuggets wrote:
System Information > Installations: On my M1 MacBook Air, this
section lists a significant amount of third-party software. If
EtreCheck does not appear there, while other non-App Store apps do,
it’s a valid technical question to ask why that is the case.
I have EtreCheck on my system, and it appears just fine.
Will you post a screenshot showing /where/ EtreSoft appears, please?
Sure! Why not?
<https://drive.google.com/file/d/1yJ2IQlpwmPCDi-ND3yG4wjEpHEWJyYdC/view?usp=share_link>
Thank you so much, Alan. MUCH appreciated.
So my bet is that you're lying about all of this.
Why on earth should I lie about this matter?
Because you're a bitter little man.
I stopped drinking Bitter (and all other alcohol!) on 21 March 2018.
When looking in System Information > Applications ..... NOTHING is
shown on this iMac.
(No information found - those are the exact words)
Then you're lying about having it installed.
That's incorrect. Gemini (AI) has persuaded me that the reason I don't
see items listed is because there is a 'bug' in macOS Ventura.
How can I convince you that I have now, like you, purchased the "Pro"
version of EtreCheck?
On 08/03/2026 23:56, Brock McNuggets wrote:
On Mar 8, 2026 at 1:04:46 PM MST, ""David B."" wrote
<[email protected]>:
On 08/03/2026 04:28, Gremlin wrote:
"David B." <[email protected]> news:[email protected] >>>> Sat, 07 Mar 2026 08:24:51 GMT in alt.computer.workshop, wrote:
Most software downloaded onto a Mac is "installed", usually in
Applications, and shows up in System Information > Installations. Once >>>>> there, software can be scanned with an AV software package to check for >>>>> malware. However, a popular tool often recommended by advisors on the >>>>> Apple Support Communities forums (EtreCheck) cannot be checked in this >>>>> manner.
I'd hate to think that malware can hide by simply choosing not to be shown >>>> in system information and no icons to click to execute it installed for >>>> you. If that's actually the case, that's a serious uhh, oversight on the >>>> part of Apple conerning security. I strongly suspect that you've
completely misunderstood what you've read about the subject. The latter >>>> seems much more likely.
Maybe so.
For once Gremlin and I are very much in agreement.
Wow!
EtreCheck claims NOT to be "installed" - indeed, it does NOT show up in >>>>> Applications or Installations
How many more times are you going to proudly display your ignorance level >>>> concerning what I and I suspect a lot of other tech savvy people would >>>> consider to be basic information and knowledge? Please, David, tell me >>>> that you're putting us on with this reply of yours?!? That you aren't
actually serious?
Sadly, Dustin, I really do NOT know how the EtreCheck software works.
You do not understand even the basics of how software on macOS works, even >> from the user perspective. Not saying you need to -- you don't -- but your >> lack of understanding tied to your irrational distrust of Etrecheck leads you
to ask questions and make insinuations which are not rooted in real issues.
There has been method in my madness!
so just HOW can it be scanned by anti-There's actually several ways I can think of just off the top of my head, >>>> David. Computers really are like black magic or voodoo to you yea? It's >>>> okay to admit that's the situation.
malware software BEFORE being given free reign on an Apple computer?” >>>>
Nowadays, my Apple computer does seem to behave in magical ways!
And that is OK.
Indeed. I has always fascinated me! 😅
That is a question asked in the "Comments" section under the video.
Okay. And? Are you the author of the question, David?
Yes.
Do YOU know the answer?
Yes, I do. And, I'm not the only individual posting here who does. Apd and >>>> FTR both do as well. All three of us have told you at least two ways to >>>> scan such things before. It's beyond time for you to put down the bottle >>>> and spend more time learning how to pull older articles. Make notes for >>>> yourself going forward. That way, you don't have to keep sliming the
product *cough cough* I mean, asking questions about how it works.
Naturally you aren't trying to indirectly accuse it's author of using it >>>> to plant malware on your machine. Right, David?
Absolutely not. John Daniel presumably makes a living in some way or
another but evidence of same eludes me.
Again I have strong agreement with Gremlin. Your insinuations are not as bad >> as what he and Carroll and pothead do with their nonsense against me, but it >> borders on it. It is deeply inappropriate and I back the author refusing to >> speak to you.
Regardless, I've bought and paid for the "Pro" version again today!
I completely wasted my time reverse engineering it twice to confirm that >>>> it's not malicious. I never expected to find anything, I simply confirmed >>>> what I already suspected when you were inferring the program might be
malicious. Basically, what you're doing (again) with this post of yours. >>>> Your posts content has *nothing whatsoever* to do with the discussion
already taking place.
Don't be daft. What you have ignored is the open backdoor which
EtreCheck installs in a Mac computer!
See: this is you simply not understanding and speaking poorly of a product. It
is not appropriate.
Surely you appreciate that John Daniel DOES now have access to my computer?
Why is it so difficult for you to create a new thread vs attempting to >>>> hijack another one (this one is a great exmaple but it's hardly the first >>>> time for you) with your completely off topic nonsense disguised as a legit >>>> question?
Don't be daft - I *started* this thread!
You have a problem with the author of Etrecheck - all because they weren't >>>> interested in your dingbat emails you're known for sending to people. You >>>> come off as a fucking k00k because you go and do k00k like things. Let it >>>> go, David. The software is not malicious. The author isn't a bad guy.
Even Gemini tells me that! Thanks.
And again I have strong agreement. Let it go. You have spent years and you >> still are saying bizarre things like it disappearing and then complaining it >> does not show up on lists it should not. It is just not helping you or anyone
to continue this irrational focus of yours.
I'm saddened to learn that you don't understand what I have said.
You *are a bad guy* and you have been for as long as I've had the
misfortune of knowing you exist.
That's where you've got things completely arse about face!
You are not a bad guy. You do not mean harm as Gremlin and Carroll and Pothead
do. But you are causing harm. You are harming an innocent man. Please stop!
Maybe you can explain why "an innocent man" feels it necessary to hide?
On Mar 8, 2026 at 3:21:29 PM MST, ""David B."" wrote <[email protected]>:
On 08/03/2026 21:36, Brock McNuggets wrote:
[....]
On Mar 8, 2026, Brock McNuggets wrote:You have been "investigating" this stuff for years. I do not understand how
you can be asking these things. I doubt Gary will spend any time trying to
help you on this, nor should he. That is not him being evil or wrong, just not
wanting to take a lot of time to correct such deep misunderstanding when your
goal is not to understand but to attack EtreCheck and its author.
This is the advice Gary first gave me:-
https://macmost.com/forum/do-you-recommend-etrecheck.html
"David: Even if I did download it and try it, there is no way to prove >>>> that it is safe to run. You can't test for that. So if this is a concern >>>> (and it probably should be for everyone) then err on the safe side and >>>> don't use it."
And you do not understand that either. After years. You are attacking an >>> innocent man and his well respected software out of fear and ignorance. Please
stop.
No, you say you want to find truth but you are not. You are pushing attacks >> against an innocent man and speaking poorly of him and his software for no >> good reason. It is not right.
I stand by this.
You seem to be misunderstanding my objective.
I am speaking of your actions. I am not saying you mean to cause him harm -- but you are causing him harm.
This isn't about
"attacking" anyone; it is about transparency and understanding the
technical behavior of software on macOS.
No. It is not. That is not an honest comment from you. You do not understand even the basics after years of "investigation", and you use your ignorance to insinuate wrong doing. It is wrong of you.
Regarding your points:
System Information > Installations: On my M1 MacBook Air, this section
lists a significant amount of third-party software.
Sure.
If EtreCheck does
not appear there, while other non-App Store apps do, it’s a valid
technical question to ask why that is the case.
And it has been answered. Repeatedly. It does not have an installer and thus would not be listed. Period. It is not a sign of ANYTHING bad. It is not a sign of anything different. It is not a reason to focus on any one piece of software, no less insulation bad things about it and the author. You are wrong
to do so.
The "Disappearing" App: When I download and run EtreCheck, it doesn't
behave like a standard persistent application in the way most users
expect.
What is a "persistent application"?
If I cannot find the binary to drag into a scanner like ESET
after it has been initialized, that is a functional hurdle for someone
trying to maintain a strict security posture.
No. It is a sign you deleted it or moved it and cannot find it. The author of the software should not prevent you from moving or deleting it. THAT would be odd behavior.
Scanning in Downloads: You mentioned that an app can do harm from the
Downloads folder. My point was that for many users, the "harm" is
perceived to occur upon execution.
You can execute it from the Downloads folder. Again: after years of "investigation" you are not understanding even the very basics from a user perspective.
If I scan it while it's a static file
in Downloads and it comes up clean, but then I cannot locate the active
components once it’s running, that is the "will 'o the wisp" behavior I
am referring to.
None of that makes the slightest bit of sense. Cannot locate it? Why not? Where did you move it? Why not search for it? Did you delete it? You are not talking about anything in how macOS or Etrecheck works.
Gary’s Advice: Gary’s own stance was quite clear: if there is no way to >> prove a tool is 100% safe, it is better to err on the side of caution. I
am simply following that logic by trying to verify exactly what the
software is doing and where it resides.
THEN DO NOT USE IT!
Period.
Don't.
Don't download it. Don't use it. Don't worry about it. Just LET IT GO!
Please, David, you are making a complete fool of yourself here... and you have
over EtreCheck and before that ClamXAV.
I am not "confused" — I am observant.
You are completely confused. You are not understanding even the basics, not even from a user perspective.
If the software is as
well-respected as you say, it should be able to withstand basic scrutiny
regarding its installation footprint and visibility to security tools.
You are again just making a fool of yourself here. Drag the damned icon to your AV software and scan it! That simple.
On 09/03/2026 00:02, Brock McNuggets wrote:
On Mar 8, 2026 at 3:21:29 PM MST, ""David B."" wrote
<[email protected]>:
On 08/03/2026 21:36, Brock McNuggets wrote:
[....]
On Mar 8, 2026, Brock McNuggets wrote:You have been "investigating" this stuff for years. I do not understand how
you can be asking these things. I doubt Gary will spend any time trying to
help you on this, nor should he. That is not him being evil or wrong, just not
wanting to take a lot of time to correct such deep misunderstanding when your
goal is not to understand but to attack EtreCheck and its author.
This is the advice Gary first gave me:-
https://macmost.com/forum/do-you-recommend-etrecheck.html
"David: Even if I did download it and try it, there is no way to prove >>>>> that it is safe to run. You can't test for that. So if this is a concern >>>>> (and it probably should be for everyone) then err on the safe side and >>>>> don't use it."
And you do not understand that either. After years. You are attacking an >>>> innocent man and his well respected software out of fear and ignorance. Please
stop.
No, you say you want to find truth but you are not. You are pushing attacks >>> against an innocent man and speaking poorly of him and his software for no >>> good reason. It is not right.
I stand by this.
I have BOUGHT the product. YOU have not done so!
You seem to be misunderstanding my objective.
I am speaking of your actions. I am not saying you mean to cause him harm -- >> but you are causing him harm.
I hear what you say. He could tell me himself - but he won't!
That really is the crux of the problem.
This isn't about
"attacking" anyone; it is about transparency and understanding the
technical behavior of software on macOS.
No. It is not. That is not an honest comment from you. You do not understand >> even the basics after years of "investigation", and you use your ignorance to
insinuate wrong doing. It is wrong of you.
Oops!
Regarding your points:
System Information > Installations: On my M1 MacBook Air, this section
lists a significant amount of third-party software.
Sure.
It's true.
If EtreCheck does
not appear there, while other non-App Store apps do, it’s a valid
technical question to ask why that is the case.
And it has been answered. Repeatedly. It does not have an installer and thus >> would not be listed. Period. It is not a sign of ANYTHING bad. It is not a >> sign of anything different. It is not a reason to focus on any one piece of >> software, no less insulation bad things about it and the author. You are wrong
to do so.
Sorry!
The "Disappearing" App: When I download and run EtreCheck, it doesn't
behave like a standard persistent application in the way most users
expect.
What is a "persistent application"?
A "persistent application" is a software program or process designed to remain active, or to retain its data, state, and user settings, even
after it is closed, the system is restarted, or a user session ends.
Unlike non-persistent or ephemeral applications that lose their data
upon termination, persistent applications ensure that information is
written to non-volatile storage (like a hard drive or database) for
long-term availability.
If I cannot find the binary to drag into a scanner like ESET
after it has been initialized, that is a functional hurdle for someone
trying to maintain a strict security posture.
No. It is a sign you deleted it or moved it and cannot find it. The author of
the software should not prevent you from moving or deleting it. THAT would be
odd behavior.
Indeed.
Scanning in Downloads: You mentioned that an app can do harm from the
Downloads folder. My point was that for many users, the "harm" is
perceived to occur upon execution.
You can execute it from the Downloads folder. Again: after years of
"investigation" you are not understanding even the very basics from a user >> perspective.
That's the thing - once it is "executed" it disappears!
(NOT from where the app itself is placed)
If I scan it while it's a static file
in Downloads and it comes up clean, but then I cannot locate the active
components once it’s running, that is the "will 'o the wisp" behavior I >>> am referring to.
None of that makes the slightest bit of sense. Cannot locate it? Why not?
Where did you move it? Why not search for it? Did you delete it? You are not >> talking about anything in how macOS or Etrecheck works.
I don't know HOW it 'works'!
Gary’s Advice: Gary’s own stance was quite clear: if there is no way to >>> prove a tool is 100% safe, it is better to err on the side of caution. I >>> am simply following that logic by trying to verify exactly what the
software is doing and where it resides.
THEN DO NOT USE IT!
Period.
Don't.
Don't download it. Don't use it. Don't worry about it. Just LET IT GO!
Just six months later Gary said ....
https://macmost.com/creating-a-system-report-with-etrecheck.html
Please, David, you are making a complete fool of yourself here... and you have
over EtreCheck and before that ClamXAV.
So instead I've bought and paid for it (again!)
I am not "confused" — I am observant.
You are completely confused. You are not understanding even the basics, not >> even from a user perspective.
No, observant!
If the software is as
well-respected as you say, it should be able to withstand basic scrutiny >>> regarding its installation footprint and visibility to security tools.
You are again just making a fool of yourself here. Drag the damned icon to >> your AV software and scan it! That simple.
One cannot do so - once it has been executed!
I hope that's the right word!
In "Downloads" or even if put into "Applications" it is of no danger.
Once set loose, though, one has no idea what it actually does.
On Mar 8, 2026 at 4:21:17 PM MST, "Alan" wrote <10ol09d$2r1ke$[email protected]>:
On 2026-03-08 15:21, David B. wrote:
On 08/03/2026 21:36, Brock McNuggets wrote:I have EtreCheck on my system, and it appears just fine.
[....]
On Mar 8, 2026, Brock McNuggets wrote:You have been "investigating" this stuff for years. I do not
understand how
you can be asking these things. I doubt Gary will spend any time
trying to
help you on this, nor should he. That is not him being evil or
wrong, just not
wanting to take a lot of time to correct such deep misunderstanding >>>>>> when your
goal is not to understand but to attack EtreCheck and its author.
This is the advice Gary first gave me:-
https://macmost.com/forum/do-you-recommend-etrecheck.html
"David: Even if I did download it and try it, there is no way to prove >>>>> that it is safe to run. You can't test for that. So if this is a concern >>>>> (and it probably should be for everyone) then err on the safe side and >>>>> don't use it."
And you do not understand that either. After years. You are attacking an >>>> innocent man and his well respected software out of fear and
ignorance. Please
stop.
No, you say you want to find truth but you are not. You are pushing attacks >>> against an innocent man and speaking poorly of him and his software for no >>> good reason. It is not right.
You seem to be misunderstanding my objective. This isn't about
"attacking" anyone; it is about transparency and understanding the
technical behavior of software on macOS.
Regarding your points:
System Information > Installations: On my M1 MacBook Air, this section
lists a significant amount of third-party software. If EtreCheck does
not appear there, while other non-App Store apps do, it’s a valid
technical question to ask why that is the case.
So my bet is that you're lying about all of this.
He is completely confused at the very least. I have gone out of my way to instal AVG and EtreCheck Pro and make this for him:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1TB0qTwkjHxH9E-8y0KCFee_LMtSBwcPS/view
But it will not get him to let it go. He just won't. I wish he would. He is harming an innocent person for no good reason.
On 09/03/2026 00:27, Brock McNuggets wrote:
On Mar 8, 2026 at 4:21:17 PM MST, "Alan" wrote
<10ol09d$2r1ke$[email protected]>:
On 2026-03-08 15:21, David B. wrote:
On 08/03/2026 21:36, Brock McNuggets wrote:I have EtreCheck on my system, and it appears just fine.
[....]
On Mar 8, 2026, Brock McNuggets wrote:You have been "investigating" this stuff for years. I do notThis is the advice Gary first gave me:-
understand how
you can be asking these things. I doubt Gary will spend any time >>>>>>> trying to
help you on this, nor should he. That is not him being evil or
wrong, just not
wanting to take a lot of time to correct such deep misunderstanding >>>>>>> when your
goal is not to understand but to attack EtreCheck and its author. >>>>>>
https://macmost.com/forum/do-you-recommend-etrecheck.html
"David: Even if I did download it and try it, there is no way to
prove
that it is safe to run. You can't test for that. So if this is a
concern
(and it probably should be for everyone) then err on the safe side >>>>>> and
don't use it."
And you do not understand that either. After years. You are
attacking an
innocent man and his well respected software out of fear and
ignorance. Please
stop.
No, you say you want to find truth but you are not. You are pushing
attacks
against an innocent man and speaking poorly of him and his software
for no
good reason. It is not right.
You seem to be misunderstanding my objective. This isn't about
"attacking" anyone; it is about transparency and understanding the
technical behavior of software on macOS.
Regarding your points:
System Information > Installations: On my M1 MacBook Air, this section >>>> lists a significant amount of third-party software. If EtreCheck does
not appear there, while other non-App Store apps do, it’s a valid
technical question to ask why that is the case.
So my bet is that you're lying about all of this.
He is completely confused at the very least. I have gone out of my way to
instal AVG and EtreCheck Pro and make this for him:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1TB0qTwkjHxH9E-8y0KCFee_LMtSBwcPS/view
But it will not get him to let it go. He just won't. I wish he would.
He is
harming an innocent person for no good reason.
Thank you for making the video! 😅
You are, though, scanning the EtreSoft software BEFORE it has been activated/initiated.
I don't see HOW I'm harming anyone by purchasing the "Pro" version today.
On 09/03/2026 00:27, Brock McNuggets wrote:
On Mar 8, 2026 at 4:21:17 PM MST, "Alan" wrote
<10ol09d$2r1ke$[email protected]>:
On 2026-03-08 15:21, David B. wrote:
On 08/03/2026 21:36, Brock McNuggets wrote:I have EtreCheck on my system, and it appears just fine.
[....]
On Mar 8, 2026, Brock McNuggets wrote:You have been "investigating" this stuff for years. I do notThis is the advice Gary first gave me:-
understand how
you can be asking these things. I doubt Gary will spend any time >>>>>>> trying to
help you on this, nor should he. That is not him being evil or
wrong, just not
wanting to take a lot of time to correct such deep misunderstanding >>>>>>> when your
goal is not to understand but to attack EtreCheck and its author. >>>>>>
https://macmost.com/forum/do-you-recommend-etrecheck.html
"David: Even if I did download it and try it, there is no way to prove >>>>>> that it is safe to run. You can't test for that. So if this is a concern >>>>>> (and it probably should be for everyone) then err on the safe side and >>>>>> don't use it."
And you do not understand that either. After years. You are attacking an >>>>> innocent man and his well respected software out of fear and
ignorance. Please
stop.
No, you say you want to find truth but you are not. You are pushing attacks
against an innocent man and speaking poorly of him and his software for no >>>> good reason. It is not right.
You seem to be misunderstanding my objective. This isn't about
"attacking" anyone; it is about transparency and understanding the
technical behavior of software on macOS.
Regarding your points:
System Information > Installations: On my M1 MacBook Air, this section >>>> lists a significant amount of third-party software. If EtreCheck does
not appear there, while other non-App Store apps do, it’s a valid
technical question to ask why that is the case.
So my bet is that you're lying about all of this.
He is completely confused at the very least. I have gone out of my way to
instal AVG and EtreCheck Pro and make this for him:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1TB0qTwkjHxH9E-8y0KCFee_LMtSBwcPS/view
But it will not get him to let it go. He just won't. I wish he would. He is >> harming an innocent person for no good reason.
Thank you for making the video! 😅
You are, though, scanning the EtreSoft software BEFORE it has been activated/initiated.
I don't see HOW I'm harming anyone by purchasing the "Pro" version
today.
On Mar 9, 2026 at 1:01:47 PM MST, ""David B."" wrote <[email protected]>:
On 09/03/2026 00:27, Brock McNuggets wrote:
On Mar 8, 2026 at 4:21:17 PM MST, "Alan" wrote
<10ol09d$2r1ke$[email protected]>:
On 2026-03-08 15:21, David B. wrote:
On 08/03/2026 21:36, Brock McNuggets wrote:I have EtreCheck on my system, and it appears just fine.
[....]
On Mar 8, 2026, Brock McNuggets wrote:You have been "investigating" this stuff for years. I do notThis is the advice Gary first gave me:-
understand how
you can be asking these things. I doubt Gary will spend any time >>>>>>>> trying to
help you on this, nor should he. That is not him being evil or >>>>>>>> wrong, just not
wanting to take a lot of time to correct such deep misunderstanding >>>>>>>> when your
goal is not to understand but to attack EtreCheck and its author. >>>>>>>
https://macmost.com/forum/do-you-recommend-etrecheck.html
"David: Even if I did download it and try it, there is no way to prove >>>>>>> that it is safe to run. You can't test for that. So if this is a concern
(and it probably should be for everyone) then err on the safe side and >>>>>>> don't use it."
And you do not understand that either. After years. You are attacking an >>>>>> innocent man and his well respected software out of fear and
ignorance. Please
stop.
No, you say you want to find truth but you are not. You are pushing attacks
against an innocent man and speaking poorly of him and his software for no
good reason. It is not right.
You seem to be misunderstanding my objective. This isn't about
"attacking" anyone; it is about transparency and understanding the
technical behavior of software on macOS.
Regarding your points:
System Information > Installations: On my M1 MacBook Air, this section >>>>> lists a significant amount of third-party software. If EtreCheck does >>>>> not appear there, while other non-App Store apps do, it’s a valid
technical question to ask why that is the case.
So my bet is that you're lying about all of this.
He is completely confused at the very least. I have gone out of my way to >>> instal AVG and EtreCheck Pro and make this for him:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1TB0qTwkjHxH9E-8y0KCFee_LMtSBwcPS/view
But it will not get him to let it go. He just won't. I wish he would. He is >>> harming an innocent person for no good reason.
Thank you for making the video! 😅
You are, though, scanning the EtreSoft software BEFORE it has been
activated/initiated.
Ah, I thought you meant run. But even then I doubt it disappears. Where are you saying it goes?
I don't see HOW I'm harming anyone by purchasing the "Pro" version
today.
Nobody said you were harming anyone by doing THAT, other than you who suggests
you are harming yourself. Your harm is your obsession with the product, the author, and the repeated insulations that there is wrong doing you cannot and NEVER WILL show. It is not right. He has made it clear he wants you to stop. PLEASE stop.
Regardless, I've bought and paid for the "Pro" version again today!
Brock McNuggets wrote:
On Mar 9, 2026 at 1:01:47 PM MST, ""David B."" wrotenever stop when they say stop
<[email protected]>:
On 09/03/2026 00:27, Brock McNuggets wrote:
On Mar 8, 2026 at 4:21:17 PM MST, "Alan" wrote
<10ol09d$2r1ke$[email protected]>:
On 2026-03-08 15:21, David B. wrote:
On 08/03/2026 21:36, Brock McNuggets wrote:I have EtreCheck on my system, and it appears just fine.
[....]
On Mar 8, 2026, Brock McNuggets wrote:You have been "investigating" this stuff for years. I do not >>>>>>>>> understand howThis is the advice Gary first gave me:-
you can be asking these things. I doubt Gary will spend any time >>>>>>>>> trying to
help you on this, nor should he. That is not him being evil or >>>>>>>>> wrong, just not
wanting to take a lot of time to correct such deep misunderstanding >>>>>>>>> when your
goal is not to understand but to attack EtreCheck and its author. >>>>>>>>
https://macmost.com/forum/do-you-recommend-etrecheck.html
"David: Even if I did download it and try it, there is no way to prove >>>>>>>> that it is safe to run. You can't test for that. So if this is a concern
(and it probably should be for everyone) then err on the safe side and >>>>>>>> don't use it."
And you do not understand that either. After years. You are attacking an
innocent man and his well respected software out of fear and
ignorance. Please
stop.
No, you say you want to find truth but you are not. You are pushing attacks
against an innocent man and speaking poorly of him and his software for no
good reason. It is not right.
You seem to be misunderstanding my objective. This isn't about
"attacking" anyone; it is about transparency and understanding the >>>>>> technical behavior of software on macOS.
Regarding your points:
System Information > Installations: On my M1 MacBook Air, this section >>>>>> lists a significant amount of third-party software. If EtreCheck does >>>>>> not appear there, while other non-App Store apps do, it’s a valid >>>>>> technical question to ask why that is the case.
So my bet is that you're lying about all of this.
He is completely confused at the very least. I have gone out of my way to >>>> instal AVG and EtreCheck Pro and make this for him:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1TB0qTwkjHxH9E-8y0KCFee_LMtSBwcPS/view >>>>
But it will not get him to let it go. He just won't. I wish he would. He is
harming an innocent person for no good reason.
Thank you for making the video! 😅
You are, though, scanning the EtreSoft software BEFORE it has been
activated/initiated.
Ah, I thought you meant run. But even then I doubt it disappears. Where are >> you saying it goes?
I don't see HOW I'm harming anyone by purchasing the "Pro" version
today.
Nobody said you were harming anyone by doing THAT, other than you who suggests
you are harming yourself. Your harm is your obsession with the product, the >> author, and the repeated insulations that there is wrong doing you cannot and
NEVER WILL show. It is not right. He has made it clear he wants you to stop. >> PLEASE stop.
On Mon, 9 Mar 2026 18:32:32 +0000, "David B." <[email protected]>
wrote:
Regardless, I've bought and paid for the "Pro" version again today!
If history is our guide, you'll be asking for a full refund any day now.
In the meantime, you'll be expecting your latest purchase to come with
the requirement that the software developer will strike up a one on one communication with you. When he doesn't, because why would he, you'll interpret it as a sign of malfeasance. Sad.
On 09/03/2026 23:32, Kelly Phillips wrote:
On Mon, 9 Mar 2026 18:32:32 +0000, "David B." <[email protected]>
wrote:
Regardless, I've bought and paid for the "Pro" version again today!
If history is our guide, you'll be asking for a full refund any day now.
In the meantime, you'll be expecting your latest purchase to come with
the requirement that the software developer will strike up a one on one
communication with you. When he doesn't, because why would he, you'll
interpret it as a sign of malfeasance. Sad.
I do believe that it is my legal right to claim a refund if I am not satisfied with the product.
On 2026-03-09 17:11, David B. wrote:
On 09/03/2026 23:32, Kelly Phillips wrote:
On Mon, 9 Mar 2026 18:32:32 +0000, "David B." <[email protected]>
wrote:
Regardless, I've bought and paid for the "Pro" version again today!
If history is our guide, you'll be asking for a full refund any day now. >>> In the meantime, you'll be expecting your latest purchase to come with
the requirement that the software developer will strike up a one on one
communication with you. When he doesn't, because why would he, you'll
interpret it as a sign of malfeasance. Sad.
I do believe that it is my legal right to claim a refund if I am not
satisfied with the product.
And everyone here believes you're a lying little shit who deserves to
have his face punched!
On 10/03/2026 00:16, Alan wrote:
On 2026-03-09 17:11, David B. wrote:
On 09/03/2026 23:32, Kelly Phillips wrote:
On Mon, 9 Mar 2026 18:32:32 +0000, "David B." <[email protected]>
wrote:
Regardless, I've bought and paid for the "Pro" version again today!
If history is our guide, you'll be asking for a full refund any day now. >>> In the meantime, you'll be expecting your latest purchase to come with >>> the requirement that the software developer will strike up a one on one >>> communication with you. When he doesn't, because why would he, you'll
interpret it as a sign of malfeasance. Sad.
I do believe that it is my legal right to claim a refund if I am not
satisfied with the product.
And everyone here believes you're a lying little shit who deserves to
have his face punched!
EtreCheck is a diagnostic tool, not a firmware shield. Buying the Pro
version is about getting better insight into system performance and
resolving existing software conflicts ? it has nothing to do with
'bricking' protection, which is handled at the hardware/OS level. If
we're going to argue, let?s at least use the right terminology.
On 2026-03-09 17:11, David B. wrote:
On 09/03/2026 23:32, Kelly Phillips wrote:
On Mon, 9 Mar 2026 18:32:32 +0000, "David B." <[email protected]>
wrote:
Regardless, I've bought and paid for the "Pro" version again today!
If history is our guide, you'll be asking for a full refund any day now. >>> In the meantime, you'll be expecting your latest purchase to come with
the requirement that the software developer will strike up a one on one
communication with you. When he doesn't, because why would he, you'll
interpret it as a sign of malfeasance. Sad.
I do believe that it is my legal right to claim a refund if I am not
satisfied with the product.
And everyone here believes you're a lying little shit who deserves to
have his face punched!
In article <[email protected]>,
[email protected] says...
On 10/03/2026 00:16, Alan wrote:
On 2026-03-09 17:11, David B. wrote:
On 09/03/2026 23:32, Kelly Phillips wrote:
On Mon, 9 Mar 2026 18:32:32 +0000, "David B." <[email protected]>
wrote:
Regardless, I've bought and paid for the "Pro" version again today! >>>>>If history is our guide, you'll be asking for a full refund any day now. >>>>> In the meantime, you'll be expecting your latest purchase to come with >>>>> the requirement that the software developer will strike up a one on one >>>>> communication with you. When he doesn't, because why would he, you'll >>>>> interpret it as a sign of malfeasance. Sad.
I do believe that it is my legal right to claim a refund if I am not
satisfied with the product.
And everyone here believes you're a lying little shit who deserves to
have his face punched!
EtreCheck is a diagnostic tool, not a firmware shield. Buying the Pro
version is about getting better insight into system performance and
resolving existing software conflicts ? it has nothing to do with
'bricking' protection, which is handled at the hardware/OS level. If
we're going to argue, let?s at least use the right terminology.
Why don't you just use the fucking program and let it do
it's thing?
In truth you seem to purchase multiple licenses so in
effect you are supporting the same software you are
attacking.
On 09/03/2026 23:32, Kelly Phillips wrote:
On Mon, 9 Mar 2026 18:32:32 +0000, "David B." <[email protected]>
wrote:
Regardless, I've bought and paid for the "Pro" version again today!
If history is our guide, you'll be asking for a full refund any day now.
In the meantime, you'll be expecting your latest purchase to come with
the requirement that the software developer will strike up a one on one
communication with you. When he doesn't, because why would he, you'll
interpret it as a sign of malfeasance. Sad.
I do believe that it is my legal right to claim a refund if I am not satisfied with the product.
On Mar 9, 2026 at 5:11:27 PM MST, ""David B."" wrote <[email protected]>:
On 09/03/2026 23:32, Kelly Phillips wrote:
On Mon, 9 Mar 2026 18:32:32 +0000, "David B." <[email protected]>
wrote:
Regardless, I've bought and paid for the "Pro" version again today!
If history is our guide, you'll be asking for a full refund any day now. >>> In the meantime, you'll be expecting your latest purchase to come with
the requirement that the software developer will strike up a one on one
communication with you. When he doesn't, because why would he, you'll
interpret it as a sign of malfeasance. Sad.
I do believe that it is my legal right to claim a refund if I am not
satisfied with the product.
But why buy it in the first place given your clear lack of trust about the product and developer? It seems malicious. And will you demand he speak to you
even though he has made it clear he does not want to have anything to do with someone who at least borderline harasses him?
With AVG drag and drop did not work...
On 09/03/2026 19:00, Brock McNuggets wrote:
With AVG drag and drop did not work...
*WHY* did that not work?
There MUST have been a reason.
Would you like me to help you find it or can you manage by yourself?
On 10/03/2026 16:38, Brock McNuggets wrote:
On Mar 9, 2026 at 5:11:27 PM MST, ""David B."" wrote
<[email protected]>:
On 09/03/2026 23:32, Kelly Phillips wrote:
On Mon, 9 Mar 2026 18:32:32 +0000, "David B." <[email protected]>
wrote:
Regardless, I've bought and paid for the "Pro" version again today!
If history is our guide, you'll be asking for a full refund any day now. >>>> In the meantime, you'll be expecting your latest purchase to come with >>>> the requirement that the software developer will strike up a one on one >>>> communication with you. When he doesn't, because why would he, you'll
interpret it as a sign of malfeasance. Sad.
I do believe that it is my legal right to claim a refund if I am not
satisfied with the product.
But why buy it in the first place given your clear lack of trust about the >> product and developer? It seems malicious. And will you demand he speak to you
even though he has made it clear he does not want to have anything to do with
someone who at least borderline harasses him?
It provides some very helpful information about my computer and some
very useful comparisons to other machine performance.
I may have to admit that I've been wrong about the developer all these
years!
A change of heart occurred now that he has, once again, an approved
product in the Apple App Store. Have you tried that? (Storeograph)
On Mar 10, 2026 at 2:35:18 PM MST, ""David B."" wrote <[email protected]>:
On 10/03/2026 16:38, Brock McNuggets wrote:
On Mar 9, 2026 at 5:11:27 PM MST, ""David B."" wrote
<[email protected]>:
On 09/03/2026 23:32, Kelly Phillips wrote:
On Mon, 9 Mar 2026 18:32:32 +0000, "David B." <[email protected]>
wrote:
Regardless, I've bought and paid for the "Pro" version again today! >>>>>If history is our guide, you'll be asking for a full refund any day now. >>>>> In the meantime, you'll be expecting your latest purchase to come with >>>>> the requirement that the software developer will strike up a one on one >>>>> communication with you. When he doesn't, because why would he, you'll >>>>> interpret it as a sign of malfeasance. Sad.
I do believe that it is my legal right to claim a refund if I am not
satisfied with the product.
But why buy it in the first place given your clear lack of trust about the >>> product and developer? It seems malicious. And will you demand he speak to you
even though he has made it clear he does not want to have anything to do with
someone who at least borderline harasses him?
It provides some very helpful information about my computer and some
very useful comparisons to other machine performance.
But you think it gives the developer access to your machine and you do not trust him.
I may have to admit that I've been wrong about the developer all these
years!
You have been wrong to repeatedly make negative insinuations.
A change of heart occurred now that he has, once again, an approved
product in the Apple App Store. Have you tried that? (Storeograph)
You pointed me to it and I tried it. Made comments before.
Octothorpe Obelus <[email protected]> news:20260303191638.474e3819@weed Wed, 04 Mar 2026 00:16:38 GMT in alt.computer.workshop, wrote:
On Tue, 3 Mar 2026 20:24:01 +0000
"David B." <[email protected]> wrote:
How To Protect Your Mac From Malware
Learn from Gary! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ebOFPd755A
You can protect your Mac from being bricked by following three simple
rules.
1. Never ever, ever, ever bring your computer to The Prescott Computer
Guy who is also known as Michael Glasser of Prescott Arizona, snit,
brock mcnuggets and dozens of other fake aliases.
He will destroy your computer and then blame you for doing it.
2. See #1.
3. See #2.
You have been warned.
A solid warning!
David: You should be ashamed of yourself.
In article <[email protected]>,
[email protected] says...
On 10/03/2026 00:16, Alan wrote:
On 2026-03-09 17:11, David B. wrote:
On 09/03/2026 23:32, Kelly Phillips wrote:
On Mon, 9 Mar 2026 18:32:32 +0000, "David B." <[email protected]>
wrote:
Regardless, I've bought and paid for the "Pro" version again today! >>>>>If history is our guide, you'll be asking for a full refund any day now. >>>>> In the meantime, you'll be expecting your latest purchase to come with >>>>> the requirement that the software developer will strike up a one on one >>>>> communication with you. When he doesn't, because why would he, you'll >>>>> interpret it as a sign of malfeasance. Sad.
I do believe that it is my legal right to claim a refund if I am not
satisfied with the product.
And everyone here believes you're a lying little shit who deserves to
have his face punched!
EtreCheck is a diagnostic tool, not a firmware shield. Buying the Pro
version is about getting better insight into system performance and
resolving existing software conflicts ? it has nothing to do with
'bricking' protection, which is handled at the hardware/OS level. If
we're going to argue, let?s at least use the right terminology.
Why don't you just use the fucking program and let it do
it's thing?
In truth you seem to purchase multiple licenses so in
effect you are supporting the same software you are
attacking.
On 11/03/2026 09:37, Creon wrote:
[]
David: You should be ashamed of yourself.
For exposing Dustin Cook?
Or for something else?
Btw, you should read this:-
https://eclecticlight.co/2026/03/11/why-does-ai-tell-you-to-use-terminal-so-much/
On Mar 6, 2026 at 10:57:47 PM MST, "Gremlin" wrote <[email protected]>:
Octothorpe Obelus <[email protected]> news:20260303191638.474e3819@weed Wed, 04 Mar 2026 00:16:38 GMT in alt.computer.workshop, wrote:
On Tue, 3 Mar 2026 20:24:01 +0000
"David B." <[email protected]> wrote:
How To Protect Your Mac From Malware
Learn from Gary! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ebOFPd755A
You can protect your Mac from being bricked by following three simple
rules.
1. Never ever, ever, ever bring your computer to The Prescott Computer
Guy who is also known as Michael Glasser of Prescott Arizona, snit,
brock mcnuggets and dozens of other fake aliases.
He will destroy your computer and then blame you for doing it.
2. See #1.
3. See #2.
You have been warned.
A solid warning!
Again you treat me like the market leader.
At 08 Mar 2026 04:45:05 GMT, Brock McNuggets <[email protected]> wrote:
On Mar 6, 2026 at 10:57:47 PM MST, "Gremlin" wrote
<[email protected]>:
Octothorpe Obelus <[email protected]>
news:20260303191638.474e3819@weed Wed, 04 Mar 2026 00:16:38 GMT in
alt.computer.workshop, wrote:
On Tue, 3 Mar 2026 20:24:01 +0000
"David B." <[email protected]> wrote:
How To Protect Your Mac From Malware
Learn from Gary! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ebOFPd755A
You can protect your Mac from being bricked by following three simple >>>>> rules.
1. Never ever, ever, ever bring your computer to The Prescott Computer >>>> Guy who is also known as Michael Glasser of Prescott Arizona, snit,
brock mcnuggets and dozens of other fake aliases.
He will destroy your computer and then blame you for doing it.
2. See #1.
3. See #2.
You have been warned.
A solid warning!
Again you treat me like the market leader.
Audience: Wow, yer amazing!
Girl in the back: can eye sleep with u?
On 11/03/2026 01:40, Brock McNuggets wrote:
On Mar 10, 2026 at 2:35:18 PM MST, ""David B."" wrote
<[email protected]>:
On 10/03/2026 16:38, Brock McNuggets wrote:
On Mar 9, 2026 at 5:11:27 PM MST, ""David B."" wrote
<[email protected]>:
On 09/03/2026 23:32, Kelly Phillips wrote:
On Mon, 9 Mar 2026 18:32:32 +0000, "David B." <[email protected]> >>>>>> wrote:
Regardless, I've bought and paid for the "Pro" version again today! >>>>>>If history is our guide, you'll be asking for a full refund any day now. >>>>>> In the meantime, you'll be expecting your latest purchase to come with >>>>>> the requirement that the software developer will strike up a one on one >>>>>> communication with you. When he doesn't, because why would he, you'll >>>>>> interpret it as a sign of malfeasance. Sad.
I do believe that it is my legal right to claim a refund if I am not >>>>> satisfied with the product.
But why buy it in the first place given your clear lack of trust about the >>>> product and developer? It seems malicious. And will you demand he speak to you
even though he has made it clear he does not want to have anything to do with
someone who at least borderline harasses him?
It provides some very helpful information about my computer and some
very useful comparisons to other machine performance.
But you think it gives the developer access to your machine and you do not >> trust him.
It DOES provide access to my machine!
I may have to admit that I've been wrong about the developer all these
years!
You have been wrong to repeatedly make negative insinuations.
It was John Daniel who cut off communication with me, not the reverse.
A change of heart occurred now that he has, once again, an approved
product in the Apple App Store. Have you tried that? (Storeograph)
You pointed me to it and I tried it. Made comments before.
He needed to maintain his approved developer status.
On Mar 11, 2026 at 2:27:45 AM MST, ""David B."" wrote <[email protected]>:
On 11/03/2026 01:40, Brock McNuggets wrote:
On Mar 10, 2026 at 2:35:18 PM MST, ""David B."" wrote
<[email protected]>:
On 10/03/2026 16:38, Brock McNuggets wrote:
On Mar 9, 2026 at 5:11:27 PM MST, ""David B."" wrote
<[email protected]>:
On 09/03/2026 23:32, Kelly Phillips wrote:
On Mon, 9 Mar 2026 18:32:32 +0000, "David B." <[email protected]> >>>>>>> wrote:
Regardless, I've bought and paid for the "Pro" version again today! >>>>>>>If history is our guide, you'll be asking for a full refund any day now.
In the meantime, you'll be expecting your latest purchase to come with >>>>>>> the requirement that the software developer will strike up a one on one >>>>>>> communication with you. When he doesn't, because why would he, you'll >>>>>>> interpret it as a sign of malfeasance. Sad.
I do believe that it is my legal right to claim a refund if I am not >>>>>> satisfied with the product.
But why buy it in the first place given your clear lack of trust about the
product and developer? It seems malicious. And will you demand he speak to you
even though he has made it clear he does not want to have anything to do with
someone who at least borderline harasses him?
It provides some very helpful information about my computer and some
very useful comparisons to other machine performance.
But you think it gives the developer access to your machine and you do not >>> trust him.
It DOES provide access to my machine!
You claimed the developer has access to your machine. This is an unsupported and inappropriate accusation. And the idea a software package designed to examine your machine would have access to it... of course it needs that. How else could it work?
I may have to admit that I've been wrong about the developer all these >>>> years!
You have been wrong to repeatedly make negative insinuations.
It was John Daniel who cut off communication with me, not the reverse.
Correct. And for good reason. Please, David, leave him alone.
A change of heart occurred now that he has, once again, an approved
product in the Apple App Store. Have you tried that? (Storeograph)
You pointed me to it and I tried it. Made comments before.
He needed to maintain his approved developer status.
I do not know how that works.
On Mar 11, 2026 at 4:25:04 AM MST, "Creon" wrote <kicsR.101258$[email protected]>:
At 08 Mar 2026 04:45:05 GMT, Brock McNuggets <[email protected]> wrote:
On Mar 6, 2026 at 10:57:47 PM MST, "Gremlin" wrote
<[email protected]>:
Octothorpe Obelus <[email protected]>
news:20260303191638.474e3819@weed Wed, 04 Mar 2026 00:16:38 GMT in
alt.computer.workshop, wrote:
On Tue, 3 Mar 2026 20:24:01 +0000
"David B." <[email protected]> wrote:
How To Protect Your Mac From Malware
Learn from Gary! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ebOFPd755A
You can protect your Mac from being bricked by following three simple >>>>>> rules.
1. Never ever, ever, ever bring your computer to The Prescott Computer >>>>> Guy who is also known as Michael Glasser of Prescott Arizona, snit,
brock mcnuggets and dozens of other fake aliases.
He will destroy your computer and then blame you for doing it.
2. See #1.
3. See #2.
You have been warned.
A solid warning!
Again you treat me like the market leader.
Audience: Wow, yer amazing!
Girl in the back: can eye sleep with u?
I am noting a fact. Don't like it? Tough!
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