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On 4/15/26 2:11 PM, Tom Elam wrote:

Samsung's "policy" for 7 OS updates is Swiss cheese that is almost
entirely air.

https://www.androidauthority.com/samsung-galaxy-one-ui-9-eligible- devices-3657712/

A quote: "Even though Samsung has rolled out stable One UI 8.5, only a handful of Galaxy devices have it. It is still in beta for older
devices, including last year’s flagships, and is expected to only start rolling out later this month. But that’s not stopping Samsung from
testing the next generation of the interface, i.e., One UI 9."

That's right, almost a year after the last OS release the actual 2025
"full" Samsung update is still not finalized for all but a handful of devices. And even before 8.5 is out of Beta testing Samsung is starting
on 9.0.

What a scam!

Comment from a Galaxy owner in the Android Authority article on One UI
8.5/9.0 release:

https://www.androidauthority.com/samsung-galaxy-one-ui-9-eligible-devices-3657712/

"Who cares, I will be too old to use it by the time it's released. We're
still waiting to receive UI 8.5... wait times are idiotic!"

There is the link, go look for yourself. Why not just give it up? Even a leading pro-Android site exposes timely updates as an empty promise. Apparently you just don't care about reality versus your propaganda.

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On 2026-04-16 1:15 p.m., Tom Elam wrote:

On 4/15/26 2:11 PM, Tom Elam wrote:

Samsung's "policy" for 7 OS updates is Swiss cheese that is almost
entirely air.

https://www.androidauthority.com/samsung-galaxy-one-ui-9-eligible-
devices-3657712/

A quote: "Even though Samsung has rolled out stable One UI 8.5, only a
handful of Galaxy devices have it. It is still in beta for older
devices, including last year’s flagships, and is expected to only
start rolling out later this month. But that’s not stopping Samsung
from testing the next generation of the interface, i.e., One UI 9."

That's right, almost a year after the last OS release the actual 2025
"full" Samsung update is still not finalized for all but a handful of
devices. And even before 8.5 is out of Beta testing Samsung is
starting on 9.0.

What a scam!

Comment from a Galaxy owner in the Android Authority article on One UI 8.5/9.0 release:

https://www.androidauthority.com/samsung-galaxy-one-ui-9-eligible- devices-3657712/

"Who cares, I will be too old to use it by the time it's released. We're still waiting to receive UI 8.5... wait times are idiotic!"

There is the link, go look for yourself. Why not just give it up? Even a leading pro-Android site exposes timely updates as an empty promise. Apparently you just don't care about reality versus your propaganda.

What I read above is exactly what I experienced on my previous devices.
By the time Samsung announced that it would offer more than the standard
two, I had already given up entirely on the platform. It should be noted
that Samsung only announced that they would offer such updates _because_
of Apple's excellent track record of updating their devices, not because
they were so benevolent. It doesn't shock me to learn that their
promises have been entirely fraudulent.
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CrudeSausage
M4 MacBook Air
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On 4/16/26 1:57 PM, CrudeSausage wrote:

On 2026-04-16 1:15 p.m., Tom Elam wrote:

On 4/15/26 2:11 PM, Tom Elam wrote:

Samsung's "policy" for 7 OS updates is Swiss cheese that is almost
entirely air.

https://www.androidauthority.com/samsung-galaxy-one-ui-9-eligible-
devices-3657712/

A quote: "Even though Samsung has rolled out stable One UI 8.5, only
a handful of Galaxy devices have it. It is still in beta for older
devices, including last year’s flagships, and is expected to only
start rolling out later this month. But that’s not stopping Samsung
from testing the next generation of the interface, i.e., One UI 9."

That's right, almost a year after the last OS release the actual 2025
"full" Samsung update is still not finalized for all but a handful of
devices. And even before 8.5 is out of Beta testing Samsung is
starting on 9.0.

What a scam!

Comment from a Galaxy owner in the Android Authority article on One UI
8.5/9.0 release:

https://www.androidauthority.com/samsung-galaxy-one-ui-9-eligible-
devices-3657712/

"Who cares, I will be too old to use it by the time it's released.
We're still waiting to receive UI 8.5... wait times are idiotic!"

There is the link, go look for yourself. Why not just give it up? Even
a leading pro-Android site exposes timely updates as an empty promise.
Apparently you just don't care about reality versus your propaganda.

What I read above is exactly what I experienced on my previous devices.
By the time Samsung announced that it would offer more than the standard two, I had already given up entirely on the platform. It should be noted that Samsung only announced that they would offer such updates _because_
of Apple's excellent track record of updating their devices, not because they were so benevolent. It doesn't shock me to learn that their
promises have been entirely fraudulent.

To be fair Samsung never stated WHEN you might get an update. For some
of the Galaxy phones and tablets the OS 16 version underlying One UI 8.5
may not get released until Android version 17 is out. A year late just
seems a bit of a wait to me. And, this was also my experience from 8
years ago too.
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On 2026-04-16 3:35 p.m., Tom Elam wrote:

On 4/16/26 1:57 PM, CrudeSausage wrote:

On 2026-04-16 1:15 p.m., Tom Elam wrote:

On 4/15/26 2:11 PM, Tom Elam wrote:

Samsung's "policy" for 7 OS updates is Swiss cheese that is almost
entirely air.

https://www.androidauthority.com/samsung-galaxy-one-ui-9-eligible-
devices-3657712/

A quote: "Even though Samsung has rolled out stable One UI 8.5, only
a handful of Galaxy devices have it. It is still in beta for older
devices, including last year’s flagships, and is expected to only
start rolling out later this month. But that’s not stopping Samsung >>>> from testing the next generation of the interface, i.e., One UI 9."

That's right, almost a year after the last OS release the actual
2025 "full" Samsung update is still not finalized for all but a
handful of devices. And even before 8.5 is out of Beta testing
Samsung is starting on 9.0.

What a scam!

Comment from a Galaxy owner in the Android Authority article on One
UI 8.5/9.0 release:

https://www.androidauthority.com/samsung-galaxy-one-ui-9-eligible-
devices-3657712/

"Who cares, I will be too old to use it by the time it's released.
We're still waiting to receive UI 8.5... wait times are idiotic!"

There is the link, go look for yourself. Why not just give it up?
Even a leading pro-Android site exposes timely updates as an empty
promise. Apparently you just don't care about reality versus your
propaganda.

What I read above is exactly what I experienced on my previous
devices. By the time Samsung announced that it would offer more than
the standard two, I had already given up entirely on the platform. It
should be noted that Samsung only announced that they would offer such
updates _because_ of Apple's excellent track record of updating their
devices, not because they were so benevolent. It doesn't shock me to
learn that their promises have been entirely fraudulent.

To be fair Samsung never stated WHEN you might get an update. For some
of the Galaxy phones and tablets the OS 16 version underlying One UI 8.5
may not get released until Android version 17 is out. A year late just
seems a bit of a wait to me. And, this was also my experience from 8
years ago too.

When manufacturers delay updates, the usual claim is that they can't
deploy them immediately because they need to test whether it works right
on the target hardware. Why they would need a year or more to do this
supposed testing is beyond me.

When I switched though, the Android phone I was using was giving me
warnings that Google Pay was not entirely secure and should be updated. Meanwhile, no such update was available. The phone itself was a 2017
model and we were in 2021, so I assumed that it was still recent enough
for me to receive some sort of an update, especially if the issue was critical. However, it was an LG, and the company had already decided
that it would move out of manufacturing phones altogether. As such,
after four years, continuing to use the phone would result in me
potentially exposing myself to all sorts of criminals. You can imagine
why I did some research to determine which company would _TRULY_ give me
at least four years of updates. *All* searches pointed to Apple. Not one pointed to Samsung, and I don't believe that the company had announced
that they would provide more than two years of support yet.

I guess the message here is that whether it is Apple CarPlay, Apple Pay
or even Siri, Android definitely has something similar on hardware
running that operating system. However, buying an Apple device will give
you access to those functions for at least seven years because of
constant updates. With Android, you'll have the 2026 version of those functions on that 2026 phone you bought, but if you're still using the
device in 2030, you'll enjoy six years worth of unpatched security
issues. It's not Google's fault, from what I can tell. In fact, Google probably does indeed update its own hardware. However, other
manufacturers won't bother. Still, my absolutely awful experience with AndroidTV on Sony televisions is reinforcing the fact that I won't be
testing their products ever again.
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CrudeSausage
M4 MacBook Air
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On 4/16/26 4:06 PM, CrudeSausage wrote:

When manufacturers delay updates, the usual claim is that they can't
deploy them immediately because they need to test whether it works right
on the target hardware. Why they would need a year or more to do this supposed testing is beyond me.

This is the same situation faced by Microsoft. Dell, HP, Lenovo etc. all
have their own hardware standards. Not perfect, but when a new version
of windows comes out it has been extensively tested by manufacturers to
the point that on launch day or shortly thereafter you can switch to the
new version. The OEMs will have new machines preloaded and ready to go
out the door. Support is available for years after. Google not so much.
Even Samsung is months after an Android update getting flagship phones updated.

With Google I get the impression that Android is pretty much an open
source hobby with nowhere near Apple or Microsoft support levels. I do
not think that Google even offers end-user support. You have to get that
from your phone maker. With Google giving away the base OS what is the financial base to finance end user support?

I do not get the Android business model. I know Android makes Google
money via clicks, but as a business? Heck, they pay Apple $billions for default use of Google Search. That tells you something about how much
revenue click bring in. But Android as a stand alone business?
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On 2026-04-16 6:31 p.m., Tom Elam wrote:

On 4/16/26 4:06 PM, CrudeSausage wrote:

When manufacturers delay updates, the usual claim is that they can't
deploy them immediately because they need to test whether it works
right on the target hardware. Why they would need a year or more to do
this supposed testing is beyond me.

This is the same situation faced by Microsoft. Dell, HP, Lenovo etc. all have their own hardware standards. Not perfect, but when a new version
of windows comes out it has been extensively tested by manufacturers to
the point that on launch day or shortly thereafter you can switch to the
new version. The OEMs will have new machines preloaded and ready to go
out the door. Support is available for years after. Google not so much.
Even Samsung is months after an Android update getting flagship phones updated.

With Google I get the impression that Android is pretty much an open
source hobby with nowhere near Apple or Microsoft support levels. I do
not think that Google even offers end-user support. You have to get that from your phone maker. With Google giving away the base OS what is the financial base to finance end user support?

I do not get the Android business model. I know Android makes Google
money via clicks, but as a business? Heck, they pay Apple $billions for default use of Google Search. That tells you something about how much revenue click bring in. But Android as a stand alone business?

The word I used to describe Android devices to Maria earlier was clunky.
It is based on clunky Linux and offers a clunky user interface for
clunky hardware. If clunky is your thing, that's fine. I don't want that
at my age.
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CrudeSausage
M4 MacBook Air
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