• Coming Soon: The Samsung OS 17 update fiasco

    From Tom Elam@[email protected] to comp.sys.mac.advocacy on Wed Apr 22 22:17:37 2026
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.advocacy

    While last year's Samsung OS update has not made it to almost all of
    their phones.

    "Again, most Galaxy phones and tablets are still waiting for the One UI
    8.5 update, which is currently running behind schedule and is only
    available on the Galaxy S26 series, at least for now."


    https://www.howtogeek.com/when-your-samsung-galaxy-will-get-android-17-one-ui-9/
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  • From CrudeSausage@[email protected] to comp.sys.mac.advocacy on Thu Apr 23 09:04:00 2026
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.advocacy

    On 2026-04-22 10:17 p.m., Tom Elam wrote:
    While last year's Samsung OS update has not made it to almost all of
    their phones.

    "Again, most Galaxy phones and tablets are still waiting for the One UI
    8.5 update, which is currently running behind schedule and is only
    available on the Galaxy S26 series, at least for now."


    https://www.howtogeek.com/when-your-samsung-galaxy-will-get-android-17- one-ui-9/

    But... but... but... some EU document said that Android supports its
    hardware for as long as Apple does theirs!
    --
    CrudeSausage
    M4 MacBook Air
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  • From Tom Elam@[email protected] to comp.sys.mac.advocacy on Thu Apr 23 10:41:59 2026
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.advocacy

    On 4/23/26 9:04 AM, CrudeSausage wrote:
    On 2026-04-22 10:17 p.m., Tom Elam wrote:
    While last year's Samsung OS update has not made it to almost all of
    their phones.

    "Again, most Galaxy phones and tablets are still waiting for the One
    UI 8.5 update, which is currently running behind schedule and is only
    available on the Galaxy S26 series, at least for now."


    https://www.howtogeek.com/when-your-samsung-galaxy-will-get-
    android-17- one-ui-9/

    But... but... but... some EU document said that Android supports its hardware for as long as Apple does theirs!

    First of all the 7 years is a promise. No promise was made for how long
    it takes to get the update on YOUR Galaxy. At almost a year late since
    OS 16 release for most of Samsung's phones. Have you noticed that Arlin
    has not joined this thread and others like it?

    I hope I live long enough to see how this actually plays out.
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  • From CrudeSausage@[email protected] to comp.sys.mac.advocacy on Thu Apr 23 10:51:26 2026
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.advocacy

    On 2026-04-23 10:41 a.m., Tom Elam wrote:
    On 4/23/26 9:04 AM, CrudeSausage wrote:
    On 2026-04-22 10:17 p.m., Tom Elam wrote:
    While last year's Samsung OS update has not made it to almost all of
    their phones.

    "Again, most Galaxy phones and tablets are still waiting for the One
    UI 8.5 update, which is currently running behind schedule and is only
    available on the Galaxy S26 series, at least for now."


    https://www.howtogeek.com/when-your-samsung-galaxy-will-get-
    android-17- one-ui-9/

    But... but... but... some EU document said that Android supports its
    hardware for as long as Apple does theirs!

    First of all the 7 years is a promise. No promise was made for how long
    it takes to get the update on YOUR Galaxy. At almost a year late since
    OS 16 release for most of Samsung's phones. Have you noticed that Arlin
    has not joined this thread and others like it?

    I hope I live long enough to see how this actually plays out.

    All I can say for sure is that Apple generally stands by its promises
    whereas the competition doesn't. Like I've said in the past, I avoided
    buying Apple and did all I could to get the most out of PC hardware
    because I do like that I can upgrade it, replace a broken part and
    change operating systems. However, even I have to eventually admit that
    the benefits of Apple hardware far outweight the drawbacks. I enjoy
    having a computer with incredible battery life, an excellent screen and
    no fan. I especially love knowing that if something goes wrong, the
    warranty does protect me to a point that an Apple technician will come
    over and fix the problem for me. I get none of that from any other manufacturer. I still can't upgrade my Mac or replace a part myself, but
    at least the experience is stellar when everything is functional.
    --
    CrudeSausage
    M4 MacBook Air
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  • From Tom Elam@[email protected] to comp.sys.mac.advocacy on Thu Apr 23 17:49:37 2026
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.advocacy

    On 4/23/26 10:51 AM, CrudeSausage wrote:
    On 2026-04-23 10:41 a.m., Tom Elam wrote:
    On 4/23/26 9:04 AM, CrudeSausage wrote:
    On 2026-04-22 10:17 p.m., Tom Elam wrote:
    While last year's Samsung OS update has not made it to almost all of
    their phones.

    "Again, most Galaxy phones and tablets are still waiting for the One
    UI 8.5 update, which is currently running behind schedule and is
    only available on the Galaxy S26 series, at least for now."


    https://www.howtogeek.com/when-your-samsung-galaxy-will-get-
    android-17- one-ui-9/

    But... but... but... some EU document said that Android supports its
    hardware for as long as Apple does theirs!

    First of all the 7 years is a promise. No promise was made for how
    long it takes to get the update on YOUR Galaxy. At almost a year late
    since OS 16 release for most of Samsung's phones. Have you noticed
    that Arlin has not joined this thread and others like it?

    I hope I live long enough to see how this actually plays out.

    All I can say for sure is that Apple generally stands by its promises whereas the competition doesn't. Like I've said in the past, I avoided buying Apple and did all I could to get the most out of PC hardware
    because I do like that I can upgrade it, replace a broken part and
    change operating systems. However, even I have to eventually admit that
    the benefits of Apple hardware far outweight the drawbacks. I enjoy
    having a computer with incredible battery life, an excellent screen and
    no fan. I especially love knowing that if something goes wrong, the
    warranty does protect me to a point that an Apple technician will come
    over and fix the problem for me. I get none of that from any other manufacturer. I still can't upgrade my Mac or replace a part myself, but
    at least the experience is stellar when everything is functional.


    Absolutely ditto that for me. I love the MacBook Air.
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  • From CrudeSausage@[email protected] to comp.sys.mac.advocacy on Thu Apr 23 20:05:16 2026
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.advocacy

    On 2026-04-23 5:49 p.m., Tom Elam wrote:
    On 4/23/26 10:51 AM, CrudeSausage wrote:
    On 2026-04-23 10:41 a.m., Tom Elam wrote:
    On 4/23/26 9:04 AM, CrudeSausage wrote:
    On 2026-04-22 10:17 p.m., Tom Elam wrote:
    While last year's Samsung OS update has not made it to almost all
    of their phones.

    "Again, most Galaxy phones and tablets are still waiting for the
    One UI 8.5 update, which is currently running behind schedule and
    is only available on the Galaxy S26 series, at least for now."


    https://www.howtogeek.com/when-your-samsung-galaxy-will-get-
    android-17- one-ui-9/

    But... but... but... some EU document said that Android supports its
    hardware for as long as Apple does theirs!

    First of all the 7 years is a promise. No promise was made for how
    long it takes to get the update on YOUR Galaxy. At almost a year late
    since OS 16 release for most of Samsung's phones. Have you noticed
    that Arlin has not joined this thread and others like it?

    I hope I live long enough to see how this actually plays out.

    All I can say for sure is that Apple generally stands by its promises
    whereas the competition doesn't. Like I've said in the past, I avoided
    buying Apple and did all I could to get the most out of PC hardware
    because I do like that I can upgrade it, replace a broken part and
    change operating systems. However, even I have to eventually admit
    that the benefits of Apple hardware far outweight the drawbacks. I
    enjoy having a computer with incredible battery life, an excellent
    screen and no fan. I especially love knowing that if something goes
    wrong, the warranty does protect me to a point that an Apple
    technician will come over and fix the problem for me. I get none of
    that from any other manufacturer. I still can't upgrade my Mac or
    replace a part myself, but at least the experience is stellar when
    everything is functional.


    Absolutely ditto that for me. I love the MacBook Air.

    I like it so much that I look forward to going to work to use it. I keep
    it there since it would be redundant to have it at home where I have an equally capable PC laptop.
    --
    CrudeSausage
    Zephyrus G14 2021
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  • From Tom Elam@[email protected] to comp.sys.mac.advocacy on Fri Apr 24 11:19:21 2026
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.advocacy

    On 4/23/26 8:05 PM, CrudeSausage wrote:
    On 2026-04-23 5:49 p.m., Tom Elam wrote:
    On 4/23/26 10:51 AM, CrudeSausage wrote:
    On 2026-04-23 10:41 a.m., Tom Elam wrote:
    On 4/23/26 9:04 AM, CrudeSausage wrote:
    On 2026-04-22 10:17 p.m., Tom Elam wrote:
    While last year's Samsung OS update has not made it to almost all >>>>>> of their phones.

    "Again, most Galaxy phones and tablets are still waiting for the
    One UI 8.5 update, which is currently running behind schedule and >>>>>> is only available on the Galaxy S26 series, at least for now."


    https://www.howtogeek.com/when-your-samsung-galaxy-will-get-
    android-17- one-ui-9/

    But... but... but... some EU document said that Android supports
    its hardware for as long as Apple does theirs!

    First of all the 7 years is a promise. No promise was made for how
    long it takes to get the update on YOUR Galaxy. At almost a year
    late since OS 16 release for most of Samsung's phones. Have you
    noticed that Arlin has not joined this thread and others like it?

    I hope I live long enough to see how this actually plays out.

    All I can say for sure is that Apple generally stands by its promises
    whereas the competition doesn't. Like I've said in the past, I
    avoided buying Apple and did all I could to get the most out of PC
    hardware because I do like that I can upgrade it, replace a broken
    part and change operating systems. However, even I have to eventually
    admit that the benefits of Apple hardware far outweight the
    drawbacks. I enjoy having a computer with incredible battery life, an
    excellent screen and no fan. I especially love knowing that if
    something goes wrong, the warranty does protect me to a point that an
    Apple technician will come over and fix the problem for me. I get
    none of that from any other manufacturer. I still can't upgrade my
    Mac or replace a part myself, but at least the experience is stellar
    when everything is functional.


    Absolutely ditto that for me. I love the MacBook Air.

    I like it so much that I look forward to going to work to use it. I keep
    it there since it would be redundant to have it at home where I have an equally capable PC laptop.


    When I was working back in the computer Dark Ages of the 1990's the
    company allowed us to keep personal information on their laptops. I had
    a series of company HP laptops and nothing else. Can't do that anymore,
    it's all locked down nowadays.
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  • From CrudeSausage@[email protected] to comp.sys.mac.advocacy on Fri Apr 24 11:22:54 2026
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.advocacy

    On 2026-04-24 11:19 a.m., Tom Elam wrote:
    On 4/23/26 8:05 PM, CrudeSausage wrote:
    On 2026-04-23 5:49 p.m., Tom Elam wrote:
    On 4/23/26 10:51 AM, CrudeSausage wrote:
    On 2026-04-23 10:41 a.m., Tom Elam wrote:
    On 4/23/26 9:04 AM, CrudeSausage wrote:
    On 2026-04-22 10:17 p.m., Tom Elam wrote:
    While last year's Samsung OS update has not made it to almost all >>>>>>> of their phones.

    "Again, most Galaxy phones and tablets are still waiting for the >>>>>>> One UI 8.5 update, which is currently running behind schedule and >>>>>>> is only available on the Galaxy S26 series, at least for now."


    https://www.howtogeek.com/when-your-samsung-galaxy-will-get-
    android-17- one-ui-9/

    But... but... but... some EU document said that Android supports
    its hardware for as long as Apple does theirs!

    First of all the 7 years is a promise. No promise was made for how
    long it takes to get the update on YOUR Galaxy. At almost a year
    late since OS 16 release for most of Samsung's phones. Have you
    noticed that Arlin has not joined this thread and others like it?

    I hope I live long enough to see how this actually plays out.

    All I can say for sure is that Apple generally stands by its
    promises whereas the competition doesn't. Like I've said in the
    past, I avoided buying Apple and did all I could to get the most out
    of PC hardware because I do like that I can upgrade it, replace a
    broken part and change operating systems. However, even I have to
    eventually admit that the benefits of Apple hardware far outweight
    the drawbacks. I enjoy having a computer with incredible battery
    life, an excellent screen and no fan. I especially love knowing that
    if something goes wrong, the warranty does protect me to a point
    that an Apple technician will come over and fix the problem for me.
    I get none of that from any other manufacturer. I still can't
    upgrade my Mac or replace a part myself, but at least the experience
    is stellar when everything is functional.


    Absolutely ditto that for me. I love the MacBook Air.

    I like it so much that I look forward to going to work to use it. I
    keep it there since it would be redundant to have it at home where I
    have an equally capable PC laptop.


    When I was working back in the computer Dark Ages of the 1990's the
    company allowed us to keep personal information on their laptops. I had
    a series of company HP laptops and nothing else. Can't do that anymore,
    it's all locked down nowadays.

    That's part of why I bring my own computer to work. I can use theirs,
    but everything is locked down. Meanwhile, this $115 computer I bought specifically for work does what I need and runs a lot faster because it doesn't include their configuration.
    --
    CrudeSausage
    2019 Thinkpad E595
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  • From Tom Elam@[email protected] to comp.sys.mac.advocacy on Fri Apr 24 16:46:29 2026
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.advocacy

    On 4/24/26 11:22 AM, CrudeSausage wrote:
    On 2026-04-24 11:19 a.m., Tom Elam wrote:
    On 4/23/26 8:05 PM, CrudeSausage wrote:
    On 2026-04-23 5:49 p.m., Tom Elam wrote:
    On 4/23/26 10:51 AM, CrudeSausage wrote:
    On 2026-04-23 10:41 a.m., Tom Elam wrote:
    On 4/23/26 9:04 AM, CrudeSausage wrote:
    On 2026-04-22 10:17 p.m., Tom Elam wrote:
    While last year's Samsung OS update has not made it to almost >>>>>>>> all of their phones.

    "Again, most Galaxy phones and tablets are still waiting for the >>>>>>>> One UI 8.5 update, which is currently running behind schedule >>>>>>>> and is only available on the Galaxy S26 series, at least for now." >>>>>>>>

    https://www.howtogeek.com/when-your-samsung-galaxy-will-get-
    android-17- one-ui-9/

    But... but... but... some EU document said that Android supports >>>>>>> its hardware for as long as Apple does theirs!

    First of all the 7 years is a promise. No promise was made for how >>>>>> long it takes to get the update on YOUR Galaxy. At almost a year
    late since OS 16 release for most of Samsung's phones. Have you
    noticed that Arlin has not joined this thread and others like it?

    I hope I live long enough to see how this actually plays out.

    All I can say for sure is that Apple generally stands by its
    promises whereas the competition doesn't. Like I've said in the
    past, I avoided buying Apple and did all I could to get the most
    out of PC hardware because I do like that I can upgrade it, replace >>>>> a broken part and change operating systems. However, even I have to >>>>> eventually admit that the benefits of Apple hardware far outweight
    the drawbacks. I enjoy having a computer with incredible battery
    life, an excellent screen and no fan. I especially love knowing
    that if something goes wrong, the warranty does protect me to a
    point that an Apple technician will come over and fix the problem
    for me. I get none of that from any other manufacturer. I still
    can't upgrade my Mac or replace a part myself, but at least the
    experience is stellar when everything is functional.


    Absolutely ditto that for me. I love the MacBook Air.

    I like it so much that I look forward to going to work to use it. I
    keep it there since it would be redundant to have it at home where I
    have an equally capable PC laptop.


    When I was working back in the computer Dark Ages of the 1990's the
    company allowed us to keep personal information on their laptops. I
    had a series of company HP laptops and nothing else. Can't do that
    anymore, it's all locked down nowadays.

    That's part of why I bring my own computer to work. I can use theirs,
    but everything is locked down. Meanwhile, this $115 computer I bought specifically for work does what I need and runs a lot faster because it doesn't include their configuration.


    We were beginning to transition to new laptops as I retired and it was
    obvious that there were post-retirement gigs coming from the company. I requested and was granted permission to take the current company
    computer with me. Served me well for about 3 more years running Windows
    2000. That was an incredible operating system. It was not locked down.

    Those were the days!!!
    --- Synchronet 3.21f-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From CrudeSausage@[email protected] to comp.sys.mac.advocacy on Fri Apr 24 18:28:00 2026
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.advocacy

    On 2026-04-24 4:46 p.m., Tom Elam wrote:
    On 4/24/26 11:22 AM, CrudeSausage wrote:
    On 2026-04-24 11:19 a.m., Tom Elam wrote:
    On 4/23/26 8:05 PM, CrudeSausage wrote:
    On 2026-04-23 5:49 p.m., Tom Elam wrote:
    On 4/23/26 10:51 AM, CrudeSausage wrote:
    On 2026-04-23 10:41 a.m., Tom Elam wrote:
    On 4/23/26 9:04 AM, CrudeSausage wrote:
    On 2026-04-22 10:17 p.m., Tom Elam wrote:
    While last year's Samsung OS update has not made it to almost >>>>>>>>> all of their phones.

    "Again, most Galaxy phones and tablets are still waiting for >>>>>>>>> the One UI 8.5 update, which is currently running behind
    schedule and is only available on the Galaxy S26 series, at >>>>>>>>> least for now."


    https://www.howtogeek.com/when-your-samsung-galaxy-will-get- >>>>>>>>> android-17- one-ui-9/

    But... but... but... some EU document said that Android supports >>>>>>>> its hardware for as long as Apple does theirs!

    First of all the 7 years is a promise. No promise was made for
    how long it takes to get the update on YOUR Galaxy. At almost a >>>>>>> year late since OS 16 release for most of Samsung's phones. Have >>>>>>> you noticed that Arlin has not joined this thread and others like >>>>>>> it?

    I hope I live long enough to see how this actually plays out.

    All I can say for sure is that Apple generally stands by its
    promises whereas the competition doesn't. Like I've said in the
    past, I avoided buying Apple and did all I could to get the most
    out of PC hardware because I do like that I can upgrade it,
    replace a broken part and change operating systems. However, even >>>>>> I have to eventually admit that the benefits of Apple hardware far >>>>>> outweight the drawbacks. I enjoy having a computer with incredible >>>>>> battery life, an excellent screen and no fan. I especially love
    knowing that if something goes wrong, the warranty does protect me >>>>>> to a point that an Apple technician will come over and fix the
    problem for me. I get none of that from any other manufacturer. I >>>>>> still can't upgrade my Mac or replace a part myself, but at least >>>>>> the experience is stellar when everything is functional.


    Absolutely ditto that for me. I love the MacBook Air.

    I like it so much that I look forward to going to work to use it. I
    keep it there since it would be redundant to have it at home where I
    have an equally capable PC laptop.


    When I was working back in the computer Dark Ages of the 1990's the
    company allowed us to keep personal information on their laptops. I
    had a series of company HP laptops and nothing else. Can't do that
    anymore, it's all locked down nowadays.

    That's part of why I bring my own computer to work. I can use theirs,
    but everything is locked down. Meanwhile, this $115 computer I bought
    specifically for work does what I need and runs a lot faster because
    it doesn't include their configuration.


    We were beginning to transition to new laptops as I retired and it was obvious that there were post-retirement gigs coming from the company. I requested and was granted permission to take the current company
    computer with me. Served me well for about 3 more years running Windows 2000. That was an incredible operating system. It was not locked down.

    Those were the days!!!

    Admittedly, I loved Windows 2000. It was the first version of Windows
    that I could say was stellar. XP was good too for the time, but 2000
    just felt a lot leaner.
    --
    CrudeSausage
    M4 MacBook Air
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  • From Tom Elam@[email protected] to comp.sys.mac.advocacy on Fri Apr 24 23:36:45 2026
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.advocacy

    On 4/24/26 6:28 PM, CrudeSausage wrote:
    On 2026-04-24 4:46 p.m., Tom Elam wrote:
    On 4/24/26 11:22 AM, CrudeSausage wrote:
    On 2026-04-24 11:19 a.m., Tom Elam wrote:
    On 4/23/26 8:05 PM, CrudeSausage wrote:
    On 2026-04-23 5:49 p.m., Tom Elam wrote:
    On 4/23/26 10:51 AM, CrudeSausage wrote:
    On 2026-04-23 10:41 a.m., Tom Elam wrote:
    On 4/23/26 9:04 AM, CrudeSausage wrote:
    On 2026-04-22 10:17 p.m., Tom Elam wrote:
    While last year's Samsung OS update has not made it to almost >>>>>>>>>> all of their phones.

    "Again, most Galaxy phones and tablets are still waiting for >>>>>>>>>> the One UI 8.5 update, which is currently running behind
    schedule and is only available on the Galaxy S26 series, at >>>>>>>>>> least for now."


    https://www.howtogeek.com/when-your-samsung-galaxy-will-get- >>>>>>>>>> android-17- one-ui-9/

    But... but... but... some EU document said that Android
    supports its hardware for as long as Apple does theirs!

    First of all the 7 years is a promise. No promise was made for >>>>>>>> how long it takes to get the update on YOUR Galaxy. At almost a >>>>>>>> year late since OS 16 release for most of Samsung's phones. Have >>>>>>>> you noticed that Arlin has not joined this thread and others
    like it?

    I hope I live long enough to see how this actually plays out.

    All I can say for sure is that Apple generally stands by its
    promises whereas the competition doesn't. Like I've said in the >>>>>>> past, I avoided buying Apple and did all I could to get the most >>>>>>> out of PC hardware because I do like that I can upgrade it,
    replace a broken part and change operating systems. However, even >>>>>>> I have to eventually admit that the benefits of Apple hardware
    far outweight the drawbacks. I enjoy having a computer with
    incredible battery life, an excellent screen and no fan. I
    especially love knowing that if something goes wrong, the
    warranty does protect me to a point that an Apple technician will >>>>>>> come over and fix the problem for me. I get none of that from any >>>>>>> other manufacturer. I still can't upgrade my Mac or replace a
    part myself, but at least the experience is stellar when
    everything is functional.


    Absolutely ditto that for me. I love the MacBook Air.

    I like it so much that I look forward to going to work to use it. I >>>>> keep it there since it would be redundant to have it at home where
    I have an equally capable PC laptop.


    When I was working back in the computer Dark Ages of the 1990's the
    company allowed us to keep personal information on their laptops. I
    had a series of company HP laptops and nothing else. Can't do that
    anymore, it's all locked down nowadays.

    That's part of why I bring my own computer to work. I can use theirs,
    but everything is locked down. Meanwhile, this $115 computer I bought
    specifically for work does what I need and runs a lot faster because
    it doesn't include their configuration.


    We were beginning to transition to new laptops as I retired and it was
    obvious that there were post-retirement gigs coming from the company.
    I requested and was granted permission to take the current company
    computer with me. Served me well for about 3 more years running
    Windows 2000. That was an incredible operating system. It was not
    locked down.

    Those were the days!!!

    Admittedly, I loved Windows 2000. It was the first version of Windows
    that I could say was stellar. XP was good too for the time, but 2000
    just felt a lot leaner.

    Windows 2000 was a vast improvement over '98. I don't remember ever
    having an issue with 2000. Stellar is an understatement. Polished, fast, trouble-free it ran rings around OS X. It was targeted at enterprise customers. XP was just the bloated consumer version of 2000 IMHO, but
    also incredibly stable.

    Took a few years for OS X to catch up.
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  • From CrudeSausage@[email protected] to comp.sys.mac.advocacy on Sat Apr 25 07:15:59 2026
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.advocacy

    On 2026-04-24 11:36 p.m., Tom Elam wrote:
    On 4/24/26 6:28 PM, CrudeSausage wrote:
    On 2026-04-24 4:46 p.m., Tom Elam wrote:
    On 4/24/26 11:22 AM, CrudeSausage wrote:
    On 2026-04-24 11:19 a.m., Tom Elam wrote:
    On 4/23/26 8:05 PM, CrudeSausage wrote:
    On 2026-04-23 5:49 p.m., Tom Elam wrote:
    On 4/23/26 10:51 AM, CrudeSausage wrote:
    On 2026-04-23 10:41 a.m., Tom Elam wrote:
    On 4/23/26 9:04 AM, CrudeSausage wrote:
    On 2026-04-22 10:17 p.m., Tom Elam wrote:
    While last year's Samsung OS update has not made it to almost >>>>>>>>>>> all of their phones.

    "Again, most Galaxy phones and tablets are still waiting for >>>>>>>>>>> the One UI 8.5 update, which is currently running behind >>>>>>>>>>> schedule and is only available on the Galaxy S26 series, at >>>>>>>>>>> least for now."


    https://www.howtogeek.com/when-your-samsung-galaxy-will-get- >>>>>>>>>>> android-17- one-ui-9/

    But... but... but... some EU document said that Android
    supports its hardware for as long as Apple does theirs!

    First of all the 7 years is a promise. No promise was made for >>>>>>>>> how long it takes to get the update on YOUR Galaxy. At almost a >>>>>>>>> year late since OS 16 release for most of Samsung's phones. >>>>>>>>> Have you noticed that Arlin has not joined this thread and
    others like it?

    I hope I live long enough to see how this actually plays out. >>>>>>>>
    All I can say for sure is that Apple generally stands by its
    promises whereas the competition doesn't. Like I've said in the >>>>>>>> past, I avoided buying Apple and did all I could to get the most >>>>>>>> out of PC hardware because I do like that I can upgrade it,
    replace a broken part and change operating systems. However,
    even I have to eventually admit that the benefits of Apple
    hardware far outweight the drawbacks. I enjoy having a computer >>>>>>>> with incredible battery life, an excellent screen and no fan. I >>>>>>>> especially love knowing that if something goes wrong, the
    warranty does protect me to a point that an Apple technician
    will come over and fix the problem for me. I get none of that >>>>>>>> from any other manufacturer. I still can't upgrade my Mac or
    replace a part myself, but at least the experience is stellar >>>>>>>> when everything is functional.


    Absolutely ditto that for me. I love the MacBook Air.

    I like it so much that I look forward to going to work to use it. >>>>>> I keep it there since it would be redundant to have it at home
    where I have an equally capable PC laptop.


    When I was working back in the computer Dark Ages of the 1990's the >>>>> company allowed us to keep personal information on their laptops. I >>>>> had a series of company HP laptops and nothing else. Can't do that
    anymore, it's all locked down nowadays.

    That's part of why I bring my own computer to work. I can use
    theirs, but everything is locked down. Meanwhile, this $115 computer
    I bought specifically for work does what I need and runs a lot
    faster because it doesn't include their configuration.


    We were beginning to transition to new laptops as I retired and it
    was obvious that there were post-retirement gigs coming from the
    company. I requested and was granted permission to take the current
    company computer with me. Served me well for about 3 more years
    running Windows 2000. That was an incredible operating system. It was
    not locked down.

    Those were the days!!!

    Admittedly, I loved Windows 2000. It was the first version of Windows
    that I could say was stellar. XP was good too for the time, but 2000
    just felt a lot leaner.

    Windows 2000 was a vast improvement over '98. I don't remember ever
    having an issue with 2000. Stellar is an understatement. Polished, fast, trouble-free it ran rings around OS X. It was targeted at enterprise customers. XP was just the bloated consumer version of 2000 IMHO, but
    also incredibly stable.

    Took a few years for OS X to catch up.

    It should be noted that at the time, OS X was a very basic operating
    system running on hardware that neither had the processing power nor the amount of RAM needed to really take advantage of it. That said, every iteration of OS X I received on my G4 1GHz with 1GB of RAM ran rather
    well after 10.1.5. It only got better with each version, but Windows
    still _felt_ a lot faster on less expensive hardware. On the G3 600MHz
    iBook I had before it (with came with 128MB of RAM but was eventually
    maxed out to 640MB), OS X was a sluggish experience. 640MB helped, but
    it was still more fun to use MacOS 9.2.2 on there than OS X.
    --
    CrudeSausage
    M4 MacBook Air
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  • From Tom Elam@[email protected] to comp.sys.mac.advocacy on Sat Apr 25 08:52:31 2026
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.advocacy

    On 4/25/26 7:15 AM, CrudeSausage wrote:
    Windows 2000 was a vast improvement over '98. I don't remember ever
    having an issue with 2000. Stellar is an understatement. Polished,
    fast, trouble-free it ran rings around OS X. It was targeted at
    enterprise customers. XP was just the bloated consumer version of 2000
    IMHO, but also incredibly stable.

    Took a few years for OS X to catch up.

    It should be noted that at the time, OS X was a very basic operating
    system running on hardware that neither had the processing power nor the amount of RAM needed to really take advantage of it. That said, every iteration of OS X I received on my G4 1GHz with 1GB of RAM ran rather
    well after 10.1.5. It only got better with each version, but Windows
    still _felt_ a lot faster on less expensive hardware. On the G3 600MHz
    iBook I had before it (with came with 128MB of RAM but was eventually
    maxed out to 640MB), OS X was a sluggish experience. 640MB helped, but
    it was still more fun to use MacOS 9.2.2 on there than OS X.

    My only early Mac experience was a year 2000 disaster of an blue iMac G3 running OS 9. It was snake-bit. Would not run more than a few hours
    without locking up.

    I sold it before OS X came out but that probably would not have made any difference. Not even sure if that iMac would have even run the new OS.

    Next Mac was a late 2021 M1 MacBook Pro. Purchased after trying one out
    at the local Apple Store. But less than 2 weeks later it bricked. This
    was probably one of the first ones sold, just a few days or a week after launch. Obviously an exception. It went back to the Apple Store for
    inspection and confirmed at a minimum to need a new motherboard. It was
    left there for a full refund. Bought a Dell XPS to replace.

    I was very happy with my iPhone and iPad at the time, so not a knock
    against Apple. So, waited a few years to see just how the M-Series
    laptops would develop. Wow, did they ever! Glad I waited.
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  • From CrudeSausage@[email protected] to comp.sys.mac.advocacy on Sat Apr 25 10:20:18 2026
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.advocacy

    On 2026-04-25 8:52 a.m., Tom Elam wrote:
    On 4/25/26 7:15 AM, CrudeSausage wrote:
    Windows 2000 was a vast improvement over '98. I don't remember ever
    having an issue with 2000. Stellar is an understatement. Polished,
    fast, trouble-free it ran rings around OS X. It was targeted at
    enterprise customers. XP was just the bloated consumer version of
    2000 IMHO, but also incredibly stable.

    Took a few years for OS X to catch up.

    It should be noted that at the time, OS X was a very basic operating
    system running on hardware that neither had the processing power nor
    the amount of RAM needed to really take advantage of it. That said,
    every iteration of OS X I received on my G4 1GHz with 1GB of RAM ran
    rather well after 10.1.5. It only got better with each version, but
    Windows still _felt_ a lot faster on less expensive hardware. On the
    G3 600MHz iBook I had before it (with came with 128MB of RAM but was
    eventually maxed out to 640MB), OS X was a sluggish experience. 640MB
    helped, but it was still more fun to use MacOS 9.2.2 on there than OS X.

    My only early Mac experience was a year 2000 disaster of an blue iMac G3 running OS 9. It was snake-bit. Would not run more than a few hours
    without locking up.

    I sold it before OS X came out but that probably would not have made any difference. Not even sure if that iMac would have even run the new OS.

    Next Mac was a late 2021 M1 MacBook Pro. Purchased after trying one out
    at the local Apple Store. But less than 2 weeks later it bricked. This
    was probably one of the first ones sold, just a few days or a week after launch. Obviously an exception. It went back to the Apple Store for inspection and confirmed at a minimum to need a new motherboard. It was
    left there for a full refund. Bought a Dell XPS to replace.

    I was very happy with my iPhone and iPad at the time, so not a knock
    against Apple. So, waited a few years to see just how the M-Series
    laptops would develop. Wow, did they ever! Glad I waited.

    My experience with Macs was using classic MacOS while studying in the
    late 90s, then an iBook G3, then a Powerbook G4, then an iMac G5 at
    which point I went back to the PC. As much as I liked the Mac, it was
    rather slow and provided no real advantage to the PC at the time. Once
    they went to Intel, this became even more apparent. However, when I
    heard about the M1 and tried it out, I fell in love. I absolutely loved
    the M1 MacBook Air, but I sold it only because I had heard of what
    happens when the internal NVMe reaches its TBW. I resisted getting
    another Mac, especially since this 2021 gaming laptop does a wonderful
    job, but I'm getting sick of hearing the fans when it's in "Performance"
    mode and I am especially annoyed with fTPM stuttering and the fact that
    I can't just put my computer to sleep because Microsoft Modern Standby
    is such garbage.
    --
    CrudeSausage
    Zephyrus G14 2021
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  • From Tom Elam@[email protected] to comp.sys.mac.advocacy on Sat Apr 25 11:36:31 2026
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.advocacy

    On 4/25/26 10:20 AM, CrudeSausage wrote:
    On 2026-04-25 8:52 a.m., Tom Elam wrote:
    On 4/25/26 7:15 AM, CrudeSausage wrote:
    Windows 2000 was a vast improvement over '98. I don't remember ever
    having an issue with 2000. Stellar is an understatement. Polished,
    fast, trouble-free it ran rings around OS X. It was targeted at
    enterprise customers. XP was just the bloated consumer version of
    2000 IMHO, but also incredibly stable.

    Took a few years for OS X to catch up.

    It should be noted that at the time, OS X was a very basic operating
    system running on hardware that neither had the processing power nor
    the amount of RAM needed to really take advantage of it. That said,
    every iteration of OS X I received on my G4 1GHz with 1GB of RAM ran
    rather well after 10.1.5. It only got better with each version, but
    Windows still _felt_ a lot faster on less expensive hardware. On the
    G3 600MHz iBook I had before it (with came with 128MB of RAM but was
    eventually maxed out to 640MB), OS X was a sluggish experience. 640MB
    helped, but it was still more fun to use MacOS 9.2.2 on there than OS X.

    My only early Mac experience was a year 2000 disaster of an blue iMac
    G3 running OS 9. It was snake-bit. Would not run more than a few hours
    without locking up.

    I sold it before OS X came out but that probably would not have made
    any difference. Not even sure if that iMac would have even run the new
    OS.

    Next Mac was a late 2021 M1 MacBook Pro. Purchased after trying one
    out at the local Apple Store. But less than 2 weeks later it bricked.
    This was probably one of the first ones sold, just a few days or a
    week after launch. Obviously an exception. It went back to the Apple
    Store for inspection and confirmed at a minimum to need a new
    motherboard. It was left there for a full refund. Bought a Dell XPS to
    replace.

    I was very happy with my iPhone and iPad at the time, so not a knock
    against Apple. So, waited a few years to see just how the M-Series
    laptops would develop. Wow, did they ever! Glad I waited.

    My experience with Macs was using classic MacOS while studying in the
    late 90s, then an iBook G3, then a Powerbook G4, then an iMac G5 at
    which point I went back to the PC. As much as I liked the Mac, it was
    rather slow and provided no real advantage to the PC at the time. Once
    they went to Intel, this became even more apparent. However, when I
    heard about the M1 and tried it out, I fell in love. I absolutely loved
    the M1 MacBook Air, but I sold it only because I had heard of what
    happens when the internal NVMe reaches its TBW. I resisted getting
    another Mac, especially since this 2021 gaming laptop does a wonderful
    job, but I'm getting sick of hearing the fans when it's in "Performance" mode and I am especially annoyed with fTPM stuttering and the fact that
    I can't just put my computer to sleep because Microsoft Modern Standby
    is such garbage.


    Modern Standby! My Dell had Hibernate disabled. A registry hack and
    hibernate was enabled, sort of. Worked about 98% of the time, but if it
    failed had to hold the power key down to reboot.

    I learned about modern standby when I took my first trip with the Dell.
    Put it in standby then in a briefcase. Took it out hours later and it
    was quite warm. What? Then found out the battery was drained. Might as
    well left it turned on.

    Then I found this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OHKKcd3sx2c
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