• [NEWS] Microsoft Office 2019 expires soon

    From Your Name@[email protected] to comp.sys.mac.vintage, comp.sys.mac.system, comp.sys.mac.apps on Wed Jun 3 09:28:20 2026
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.system


    Microsoft Office 2019 for Mac
    Will Soon Stop Letting You Edit Documents
    -----------------------------------------
    Microsoft will prevent Office 2019 for Mac owners from editing their
    documents from July 13, a restriction the company is attributing to
    the productivity suite's expiring digital certificate.

    The Office 2019 apps affected include Word, Excel, PowerPoint,
    Outlook, and OneNote. Once the certificate used to confirm the
    suite's license expires, these apps will drop into what Microsoft is
    calling "reduced functionality mode." In other words, users will
    still be able to open, view, and print existing documents, but
    creating, editing and saving documents will be disabled. The same
    restriction will apply to iPhone and iPad apps that can't be updated,
    according to Microsoft.

    Microsoft has actually renewed the suite's certificate, but the fix
    can only be delivered through a software update. That means users of
    Microsoft 365 and Office 2021 are in the clear - they'll receive the
    update, so neither will be affected. However, Microsoft stopped
    offering support for Office 2019 on October 10, 2023, and the suite
    has received no updates since. As such, it won't be updated to
    version 16.83, which is the release that includes the renewed
    certificate.

    Microsoft says the problem can't be fixed by reinstalling
    Office 2019. Instead, it suggests affected users turn to the
    company's free Microsoft 365 web apps, take out a paid Microsoft 365
    subscription, or make a one-time purchase of Office 2024.

    Users running newer supported versions of Office on macOS 12 Monterey
    or later simply need to update to build 16.83. For users on iPhone
    and iPad running iOS 17 or later, it's build 2.93. You can check
    which version you have by opening Word and selecting Word > About
    Word, but most suites will be automatically updated in the background.

    Office 2021 will only receive updates until October 13, 2026, when it
    too reaches the end of support. Microsoft says the apps will continue
    to function after that date, but they will no longer receive security
    or feature updates.

    Some critics have argued that Microsoft's deadline is effectively
    self-imposed because the company renewed the certificate but chose not
    to provide the update to Office 2019 users. For example, JimmyTech,
    the IT consultancy that spotted the change, has argued that using the
    expiry to retire older software rather than quietly renewing it
    "amounts to a choice."

    Microsoft's messaging on the subject hasn't done it any favors, either.
    Its end-of-support page for Office 2019 for Mac, originally posted in
    October 2023, once told owners to "Rest assured that all your
    Office 2019 apps will continue to function." A revision now dated
    May 15, 2026 has dropped that line, replacing it with a note that their
    data "can be accessed in a supported Microsoft 365 or Office product."

    Microsoft began emailing affected customers in May, but there's a
    chance this is still news to some Office for 2019 owners. Apple's
    iWork suite is an alternative route for anyone done with Microsoft's
    offering. It's also worth checking out the free and open-source
    LibreOffice, developed by The Document Foundation.



    <https://www.macrumors.com/2026/06/02/microsoft-office-2019-for-mac-no-edit-documents/>





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  • From Smithwicks@[email protected] to comp.sys.mac.vintage,comp.sys.mac.system,comp.sys.mac.apps on Thu Jun 4 13:55:18 2026
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.system

    In article <10vnhtj$37mpa$[email protected]>,
    Your Name <[email protected]> wrote:

    Microsoft Office 2019 for Mac
    Will Soon Stop Letting You Edit Documents
    -----------------------------------------
    Microsoft will prevent Office 2019 for Mac owners from editing their
    documents from July 13, a restriction the company is attributing to
    the productivity suite's expiring digital certificate.

    The Office 2019 apps affected include Word, Excel, PowerPoint,
    Outlook, and OneNote. Once the certificate used to confirm the
    suite's license expires, these apps will drop into what Microsoft is
    calling "reduced functionality mode." In other words, users will
    still be able to open, view, and print existing documents, but
    creating, editing and saving documents will be disabled. The same
    restriction will apply to iPhone and iPad apps that can't be updated,
    according to Microsoft.

    Microsoft has actually renewed the suite's certificate, but the fix
    can only be delivered through a software update. That means users of
    Microsoft 365 and Office 2021 are in the clear - they'll receive the
    update, so neither will be affected. However, Microsoft stopped
    offering support for Office 2019 on October 10, 2023, and the suite
    has received no updates since. As such, it won't be updated to
    version 16.83, which is the release that includes the renewed
    certificate.

    Microsoft says the problem can't be fixed by reinstalling
    Office 2019. Instead, it suggests affected users turn to the
    company's free Microsoft 365 web apps, take out a paid Microsoft 365
    subscription, or make a one-time purchase of Office 2024.

    Users running newer supported versions of Office on macOS 12 Monterey
    or later simply need to update to build 16.83. For users on iPhone
    and iPad running iOS 17 or later, it's build 2.93. You can check
    which version you have by opening Word and selecting Word > About
    Word, but most suites will be automatically updated in the background.

    Office 2021 will only receive updates until October 13, 2026, when it
    too reaches the end of support. Microsoft says the apps will continue
    to function after that date, but they will no longer receive security
    or feature updates.

    Some critics have argued that Microsoft's deadline is effectively
    self-imposed because the company renewed the certificate but chose not
    to provide the update to Office 2019 users. For example, JimmyTech,
    the IT consultancy that spotted the change, has argued that using the
    expiry to retire older software rather than quietly renewing it
    "amounts to a choice."

    Microsoft's messaging on the subject hasn't done it any favors, either.
    Its end-of-support page for Office 2019 for Mac, originally posted in
    October 2023, once told owners to "Rest assured that all your
    Office 2019 apps will continue to function." A revision now dated
    May 15, 2026 has dropped that line, replacing it with a note that their
    data "can be accessed in a supported Microsoft 365 or Office product."

    Microsoft began emailing affected customers in May, but there's a
    chance this is still news to some Office for 2019 owners. Apple's
    iWork suite is an alternative route for anyone done with Microsoft's
    offering. It's also worth checking out the free and open-source
    LibreOffice, developed by The Document Foundation.



    <https://www.macrumors.com/2026/06/02/microsoft-office-2019-for-mac-no-edit-do
    cuments/>





    Meanwhile, Office 2008 on my PowerBook G4 remains entirely untouched.
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  • From =?UTF-8?Q?J=C3=B6rg_Lorenz?=@[email protected] to comp.sys.mac.vintage,comp.sys.mac.system,comp.sys.mac.apps on Thu Jun 4 20:23:57 2026
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.system

    On 04.06.26 19:55, Smithwicks wrote:
    In article <10vnhtj$37mpa$[email protected]>,
    Your Name <[email protected]> wrote:

    Microsoft Office 2019 for Mac
    Will Soon Stop Letting You Edit Documents
    -----------------------------------------

    Meanwhile, Office 2008 on my PowerBook G4 remains entirely untouched.

    Ticking ticking time bomb!
    *ROTFLSTC*
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  • From ant@[email protected] (Ant) to comp.sys.mac.vintage,comp.sys.mac.system,comp.sys.mac.apps on Thu Jun 4 22:25:09 2026
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.system

    In comp.sys.mac.apps Smithwicks <[email protected]> wrote:
    In article <10vnhtj$37mpa$[email protected]>,
    Your Name <[email protected]> wrote:

    Microsoft Office 2019 for Mac
    Will Soon Stop Letting You Edit Documents
    -----------------------------------------
    Microsoft will prevent Office 2019 for Mac owners from editing their
    documents from July 13, a restriction the company is attributing to
    the productivity suite's expiring digital certificate.

    The Office 2019 apps affected include Word, Excel, PowerPoint,
    Outlook, and OneNote. Once the certificate used to confirm the
    suite's license expires, these apps will drop into what Microsoft is
    calling "reduced functionality mode." In other words, users will
    still be able to open, view, and print existing documents, but
    creating, editing and saving documents will be disabled. The same
    restriction will apply to iPhone and iPad apps that can't be updated,
    according to Microsoft.

    Microsoft has actually renewed the suite's certificate, but the fix
    can only be delivered through a software update. That means users of
    Microsoft 365 and Office 2021 are in the clear - they'll receive the
    update, so neither will be affected. However, Microsoft stopped
    offering support for Office 2019 on October 10, 2023, and the suite
    has received no updates since. As such, it won't be updated to
    version 16.83, which is the release that includes the renewed
    certificate.

    Microsoft says the problem can't be fixed by reinstalling
    Office 2019. Instead, it suggests affected users turn to the
    company's free Microsoft 365 web apps, take out a paid Microsoft 365
    subscription, or make a one-time purchase of Office 2024.

    Users running newer supported versions of Office on macOS 12 Monterey
    or later simply need to update to build 16.83. For users on iPhone
    and iPad running iOS 17 or later, it's build 2.93. You can check
    which version you have by opening Word and selecting Word > About
    Word, but most suites will be automatically updated in the background.

    Office 2021 will only receive updates until October 13, 2026, when it
    too reaches the end of support. Microsoft says the apps will continue
    to function after that date, but they will no longer receive security
    or feature updates.

    Some critics have argued that Microsoft's deadline is effectively
    self-imposed because the company renewed the certificate but chose not
    to provide the update to Office 2019 users. For example, JimmyTech,
    the IT consultancy that spotted the change, has argued that using the
    expiry to retire older software rather than quietly renewing it
    "amounts to a choice."

    Microsoft's messaging on the subject hasn't done it any favors, either.
    Its end-of-support page for Office 2019 for Mac, originally posted in
    October 2023, once told owners to "Rest assured that all your
    Office 2019 apps will continue to function." A revision now dated
    May 15, 2026 has dropped that line, replacing it with a note that their
    data "can be accessed in a supported Microsoft 365 or Office product."

    Microsoft began emailing affected customers in May, but there's a
    chance this is still news to some Office for 2019 owners. Apple's
    iWork suite is an alternative route for anyone done with Microsoft's
    offering. It's also worth checking out the free and open-source
    LibreOffice, developed by The Document Foundation.



    <https://www.macrumors.com/2026/06/02/microsoft-office-2019-for-mac-no-edit-do
    cuments/>





    Meanwhile, Office 2008 on my PowerBook G4 remains entirely untouched.

    Does it still work well? I still have 2010(?) in Intel 2012 MBP's macOS
    Mojave v10.14.6. I want to upgrade its macOS to Catalina, but then its
    32-bit Office and other 32-bit apps will not run. :(
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  • From John@[email protected] to comp.sys.mac.system on Fri Jun 5 14:48:28 2026
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.system

    On Thu, 04 Jun 2026 13:55:18 -0400, Smithwicks
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    In article <10vnhtj$37mpa$[email protected]>,
    Your Name <[email protected]> wrote:

    Microsoft Office 2019 for Mac
    Will Soon Stop Letting You Edit Documents
    -----------------------------------------
    Microsoft will prevent Office 2019 for Mac owners from editing their
    documents from July 13, a restriction the company is attributing to
    the productivity suite's expiring digital certificate.

    The Office 2019 apps affected include Word, Excel, PowerPoint,
    Outlook, and OneNote. Once the certificate used to confirm the
    suite's license expires, these apps will drop into what Microsoft is
    calling "reduced functionality mode." In other words, users will
    still be able to open, view, and print existing documents, but
    creating, editing and saving documents will be disabled. The same
    restriction will apply to iPhone and iPad apps that can't be updated,
    according to Microsoft.

    Microsoft has actually renewed the suite's certificate, but the fix
    can only be delivered through a software update. That means users of
    Microsoft 365 and Office 2021 are in the clear - they'll receive the
    update, so neither will be affected. However, Microsoft stopped
    offering support for Office 2019 on October 10, 2023, and the suite
    has received no updates since. As such, it won't be updated to
    version 16.83, which is the release that includes the renewed
    certificate.

    Microsoft says the problem can't be fixed by reinstalling
    Office 2019. Instead, it suggests affected users turn to the
    company's free Microsoft 365 web apps, take out a paid Microsoft 365
    subscription, or make a one-time purchase of Office 2024.

    A long time ago, in a Town Centre not so far away, I saw a clever
    little device that looked like fun. It played videos, did web-things,
    would download and display e-books and do other stuff.

    I looked into its toolkit and, yes, I could even *buy* books from the
    company to put onto my lovely, little toy. I also could load books
    from www.gutenberg.org , giving me a library bigger than any physical
    one on the planet.

    It was quite inexpensive for all of its usefulness and, even better,
    it was on "sale" at half of the normal price. So I bought one.

    I loaded it with a couple of books. Then more. Then even more. It was
    ever so *convenient* and nice and a great toy to play with.

    Until the company sent me an email telling me that due to a "security
    update", the machine would no longer connect to their book store. I
    could never again download a new book.

    They did not reveal why their "security improvement" rendered my
    lovely box obsolete. Nor would they talk about any possibility of
    simply allowing it to run without the "update", nor even adapting the
    shell of the "update" to fit into my box. No, for "your protection"
    they killed it.

    The company did have a whole set of newer, more expensive machines
    that I could have bought but that, of course did not affect their
    policy of killing boxes that were not earning them a couple of hundred
    quid each.

    The machine is a Vox, the company is Kobo and I will never buy from
    them again.

    It still does videos, music and e-books, even those downloaded from
    everywhere else on the planet apart from Kobo.


    Users running newer supported versions of Office on macOS 12 Monterey
    or later simply need to update to build 16.83. For users on iPhone
    and iPad running iOS 17 or later, it's build 2.93. You can check
    which version you have by opening Word and selecting Word > About
    Word, but most suites will be automatically updated in the background. >>
    Office 2021 will only receive updates until October 13, 2026, when it
    too reaches the end of support. Microsoft says the apps will continue
    to function after that date, but they will no longer receive security
    or feature updates.

    Some critics have argued that Microsoft's deadline is effectively
    self-imposed because the company renewed the certificate but chose not >> to provide the update to Office 2019 users. For example, JimmyTech,
    the IT consultancy that spotted the change, has argued that using the
    expiry to retire older software rather than quietly renewing it
    "amounts to a choice."

    On the part of Microsoft, not the users.

    Kobo chose to change the D.R.M. on their books so they don't copy to
    my Vox, nor to any older machines, to ensure future purchase of new
    hardware. It was a "security upgrade".

    It was *their* choice.


    Microsoft's messaging on the subject hasn't done it any favors, either. >> Its end-of-support page for Office 2019 for Mac, originally posted in
    October 2023, once told owners to "Rest assured that all your
    Office 2019 apps will continue to function." A revision now dated
    May 15, 2026 has dropped that line, replacing it with a note that their >> data "can be accessed in a supported Microsoft 365 or Office product." >>
    Microsoft began emailing affected customers in May, but there's a
    chance this is still news to some Office for 2019 owners. Apple's
    iWork suite is an alternative route for anyone done with Microsoft's
    offering. It's also worth checking out the free and open-source
    LibreOffice, developed by The Document Foundation.

    Just to be helpful:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_office_suites

    There are lots. :)

    Some of the "dead" ones probably still work, using various
    definitions of "work". I know that my "Microsoft Works" booted up a
    few years ago - accidentally - and others probably still run on
    obsolete hardware under unsafe elderly OSes.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_office_suites is also fun
    to read if you're ever just about terminally bored. This page gives
    prices for many of them but only in something called "USD". Startpage
    probably has a converter to local currencies.




    <https://www.macrumors.com/2026/06/02/microsoft-office-2019-for-mac-no-edit-do
    cuments/>





    Meanwhile, Office 2008 on my PowerBook G4 remains entirely untouched.

    As, I think does my Office 2007 on my Win-7 box. I haven't tried to
    use it since I quit work so I'll probably never know but there's no
    reason why Microsoft should go after me.

    I'm not going to buy nor subscribe to anything newer. I don't need
    it, I will *never* need it and I don't want it.

    No one sends me MSO documents anyway. Were someone to, I'd treat it
    as spam and bin it.

    I live a quiet life. :)

    J.
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  • From Your Name@[email protected] to comp.sys.mac.system on Sat Jun 6 11:21:16 2026
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.system

    On 2026-06-05 13:48:28 +0000, John said:
    On Thu, 04 Jun 2026 13:55:18 -0400, Smithwicks
    <[email protected]> wrote:
    In article <10vnhtj$37mpa$[email protected]>,
    Your Name <[email protected]> wrote:
    <snip>

    Microsoft began emailing affected customers in May, but there's a
    chance this is still news to some Office for 2019 owners. Apple's
    iWork suite is an alternative route for anyone done with Microsoft's
    offering. It's also worth checking out the free and open-source
    LibreOffice, developed by The Document Foundation.

    Just to be helpful:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_office_suites

    There are lots. :)

    Some of the "dead" ones probably still work, using various
    definitions of "work". I know that my "Microsoft Works" booted up a
    few years ago - accidentally - and others probably still run on
    obsolete hardware under unsafe elderly OSes.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_office_suites is also fun
    to read if you're ever just about terminally bored. This page gives
    prices for many of them but only in something called "USD". Startpage probably has a converter to local currencies.

    Most are those are probably fine for simple documents, but if you're
    dealing with more complicated Microsoft Office documents, then you have
    to use Microsoft Office for full compatibility ... or at least as close
    as you can ever get, since even Microsoft Office has issues when
    opening files in differing versions and OSes.


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  • From ant@[email protected] (Ant) to comp.sys.mac.system on Fri Jun 5 23:36:21 2026
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.system

    Your Name <[email protected]> wrote:
    On 2026-06-05 13:48:28 +0000, John said:
    On Thu, 04 Jun 2026 13:55:18 -0400, Smithwicks <[email protected]> wrote:
    In article <10vnhtj$37mpa$[email protected]>,
    Your Name <[email protected]> wrote:
    <snip>

    Microsoft began emailing affected customers in May, but there's a
    chance this is still news to some Office for 2019 owners. Apple's
    iWork suite is an alternative route for anyone done with Microsoft's
    offering. It's also worth checking out the free and open-source
    LibreOffice, developed by The Document Foundation.

    Just to be helpful:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_office_suites

    There are lots. :)

    Some of the "dead" ones probably still work, using various
    definitions of "work". I know that my "Microsoft Works" booted up a
    few years ago - accidentally - and others probably still run on
    obsolete hardware under unsafe elderly OSes.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_office_suites is also fun
    to read if you're ever just about terminally bored. This page gives
    prices for many of them but only in something called "USD". Startpage probably has a converter to local currencies.

    Most are those are probably fine for simple documents, but if you're
    dealing with more complicated Microsoft Office documents, then you have
    to use Microsoft Office for full compatibility ... or at least as close
    as you can ever get, since even Microsoft Office has issues when
    opening files in differing versions and OSes.

    Even LibreOffice has problems with formattings so I just use the older Office versions (e.g., 2007 SR3), and they actually do decent job. :)
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  • From Smithwicks@[email protected] to comp.sys.mac.system on Tue Jun 9 00:05:20 2026
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    Meanwhile, Office 2008 on my PowerBook G4 remains entirely untouched.

    As, I think does my Office 2007 on my Win-7 box. I haven't tried to
    use it since I quit work so I'll probably never know but there's no
    reason why Microsoft should go after me.

    I'm not going to buy nor subscribe to anything newer. I don't need
    it, I will *never* need it and I don't want it.

    No one sends me MSO documents anyway. Were someone to, I'd treat it
    as spam and bin it.

    I live a quiet life. :)

    J.

    But there have been SO MANY critical updates to the art of word
    processing! /s
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  • From =?UTF-8?Q?J=C3=B6rg_Lorenz?=@[email protected] to comp.sys.mac.system on Tue Jun 9 06:45:05 2026
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.system

    On 09.06.26 06:05, Smithwicks wrote:
    --
    *~~a blonde may be fair~~*
    *~and a brunette upscale~*
    *~~but as my name hints~~*
    *~~~I prefer a red ale~~~*

    Hilarious!
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  • From John@[email protected] to comp.sys.mac.system on Thu Jun 11 20:34:26 2026
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.system

    On Tue, 09 Jun 2026 00:05:20 -0400, Smithwicks
    <[email protected]> wrote:


    Meanwhile, Office 2008 on my PowerBook G4 remains entirely untouched.

    As, I think does my Office 2007 on my Win-7 box. I haven't tried to
    use it since I quit work so I'll probably never know but there's no
    reason why Microsoft should go after me.

    I'm not going to buy nor subscribe to anything newer. I don't need
    it, I will *never* need it and I don't want it.

    No one sends me MSO documents anyway. Were someone to, I'd treat it
    as spam and bin it.

    I live a quiet life. :)

    J.

    But there have been SO MANY critical updates to the art of word
    processing!

    I really don't give a rat's fart. Hell, I'm not even keeping up with
    "updates" to English any longer. :)

    Two, three centuries from now, I'll sound like a bloody Shakespearean
    to the new locals but that's okay. So long as they recognise "egginbaykkinbapwiffbrownsozzpleece" I'll be fine. Even when they
    don't, I can point with something pointy.

    /s

    Oh. Sarcasm. Okay. Well. That's fine, too. But, really, when the look-up-table-and-decision-tree software gets into your ice-cream
    comes, microwaves, car braking systems and shampoos "word processing"
    will become so bloody intricate, exotic and esoterically complex that
    not even they will be able to cope with it.

    What? What do you mean "it's already *IN* brakes"? Have those guys
    gone completely insane?

    J.
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